From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #271 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Monday, September 19 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 271 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Man From Mars [betsyblue82@gmail.com] Sitting On My Groceries? - ReSend [simon@icu.com] Re: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc [Lieve Reckers ] Sitting On My Groceries? - 2nd ReSend [simon@icu.com] NJC Re: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc [Bob Mulle] Re: Man From Mars [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:22:34 +0000 From: betsyblue82@gmail.com Subject: Man From Mars Where can I hear the original, from Grace of My Heart? It's $40 for the CD on amazon, and I just can't do it. I do think I will get SoaPG just for Paprika Plains. Even the mp3 sample sounds awesome, but I won't make the mistake of buying any more downloads of Joni's stuff. The packaging is actually worth something to me. NP Jaded, Green Day Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:26:00 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Sitting On My Groceries? - ReSend Please excuse the duplication. I am resending this message as an experiment. I'll explain later. Thankx for your understanding. - - - - - - Mags wrote: > mmm methinks there was a wee tad of sexual innuendo there, "sitting on her groceries" ha! Dave Blackburn wrote > I don't know about Joni mowing but she claims she's a pretty good cook. But what kind of cook sits on her groceries? Anita G wrote > Eggsactly. Maybe one who likes to lay a lot? Interesting how often people see sexual innuendo in Joni's lyrics. Of course that doesn't mean She put them there. OTOH: here's what Joni herself had to say about "Raised On Robbery" When I was doing press in Toronto for the last album, a journalist came up to me and he said Raised On Robbery, that represented the birth of your ah, sexuality I said Are you kidding me? Thats a story about an Indian hooker trying to pick up a John in a bar. You think thats MY sexuality? Come home with me honey, Im sitting on my groceries? Joni laughs and continues  People dont listen. yknow Dog eat dog says that. Nothing is savored long enough to really understand. If you were to view yknow, all of this material from record 1 to record 19 now with the addition of these two [Hits & Misses] yea, you would get somewhat of a portrait of the artist but theres more humor there than people realize for one thing. JM 1994 andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:26:41 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc It works just fine in the UK. Now let me test it from China... or maybe Bob can save me the journey? Lieve in London >________________________________ >From: Jim L'Hommedieu >To: JMDL >Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011, 3:09 >Subject: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc > >As I said the other day, The Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury >were on "The World Cafe" this week. Now it's available as a podcast at >*http://tinyurl.com/6csaxy2* > >I tested it; it works for me. I dunno if it works from the UK or China >though. > >Jim L'Hommedieu >np: The Last Waltz downstairs and The World Cafe upstairs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:43:33 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Paul Simon NJC Hi Mark (and Betsy), if you like Paul Simon but haven't kept up with him after the split with Garfunkel, until he produced Gracelands, then I think you are missing an absolute gem: the 1973 album There Goes Rhymin' Simon. It contains several sublime songs which in my opinion come up to the level of Bridge Over Troubled Water. And his voice is beautiful too, so I really got over the absence of Garfunkel's voice pretty fast. I hope you try and enjoy! Lieve in London >________________________________ >From: Mark >To: betsyblue82@gmail.com; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011, 4:12 >Subject: Re: Paul Simon NJC > >Here is that old controversy about where the line is between 'the folk music >movement' and 'the singer/songwriter era' and I, for one, really don't know >what the answer is. > >Is Paul Simon's early work any more 'folk' than Joni's early work? Whether >the answer is yes or no or maybe, I think Paul Simon is definitely worth >checking out, Betsy. Quite honestly, I haven't kept up with him since he >and Art Garfunkel split up the duo that produced those beautiful, hushed >vocal harmonies in the 1960s. I do own 'Graceland' but could probably only tell you the name of >maybe 2 songs off of it. That record was highly praised for its originality in incorporating South African musicians and elements of 'World Music' into American pop. > >Joni, of course, would point out that she had used The Warrior Drums of Burundi on >'The Jungle Line' eleven years before the release of 'Graceland'. > >I did buy Simon's latest release and I liked it when I listened to it. I really must give it a few >more spins. > >Also, Robin Adler's fantastic take on 'Hearts and Bones' on her 'It's About >Time' cd has piqued my curiosity a bit about post S&G Paul Simon. > >But Paul Simon wrote some beautiful songs when he had Art Garfunkel adding >his angelic tenor voice as harmony to his own. And some of those early songs where Art >sang the lead vocal or sang as solos would not have been nearly as beautiful without that >voice, in my opinion. 'For Emily Whenever I May Find Her' and 'Bridge Over >Troubled Water' specifically come to mind. > >The lonely life of the musician on the road has been written about time and again >but rarely as beautifully as in 'Homeward Bound'. > >There are lyrical and melodic gems in many of Paul Simon's early songs: > >Dangling Conversation >Homeward Bound >The Boxer >Sound of Silence >Patterns >A Poem on the Underground Wall >I Am a Rock >America >Bookends > >Check 'em out. > >The funny thing is that my all time favorite Simon and Garfunkel recording is 'Scarborough Fair/Canticle' which is mostly >an old folk-song. Interwoven with the traditional song is a Paul Simon original anti-war themed counter melody and lyric. I have always loved the haunting melancholy >of the melody, the vocal harmonies and the juxtaposition of the two songs that make up this piece of music. > >So, for me anyway, Paul Simon is not 'just a folk singer' and I say listen to a few more of his tunes. I think you'll find some stuff worth listening to. > >Mark in Seattle >-----Original Message----- From: betsyblue82@gmail.com >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:01 PM >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Paul Simon NJC > >Paul Simon's performance of Sound of Silence was really moving. Much more >than the original, because his voice and delivery weren't so pure. > >I was inspired to read the lyrics, and found them vivid and evocative. I >noticed some S&L connections, the clearest of which is: >"The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls" > >So Paul's getting another chance. I never listened much because I thought he >was just a folk singer, which isn't my thing. > >NP Night of Hunter, Tori Amos >(Full album streams on npr.org) >Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:49:32 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Sitting On My Groceries? - 2nd ReSend Please excuse the 2nd ReSend. - - - - - - Mags wrote: > mmm me thinks there was a wee tad of sexual innuendo there, "sitting on her groceries" ha! Dave Blackburn wrote > I don't know about Joni mowing but she claims she's a pretty good cook. But what kind of cook sits on her groceries? Anita G wrote > Eggsactly. Maybe one who likes to lay a lot? Interesting how often people see sexual innuendo in Joni's lyrics. Of course that doesn't mean She put them there. OTOH: here's what Joni herself had to say about "Raised On Robbery" "When I was doing press in Toronto for the last album, a journalist came up to me and he said Raised On Robbery, that represented the birth of your ah, sexuality" I said "Are you kidding me? That's a story about an Indian hooker trying to pick up a 'John' in a bar. You think that's MY sexuality? Come home with me honey, I'm sitting on my groceries?" Joni laughs and continues  "People don't listen. y'know Dog Eat Dog says that. Nothing is savored long enough to really understand. If you were to view y'know, all of this material from record 1 to record 19 now with the addition of these two [Hits & Misses] yea, you would get somewhat of a portrait of the artist but theres more humor there than people realize for one thing." JM 1994 andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - s i m o n ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc No way - you have to come on over and check it out for yourself. :-) Bob NP: Melody Gardot, "Worrisome Heart" From: Lieve Reckers To: Jim L'Hommedieu ; JMDL Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:26 AM Subject: Re: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc It works just fine in the UK. Now let me test it from China... or maybe Bob can save me the journey? Lieve in London >________________________________ >From: Jim L'Hommedieu >To: JMDL >Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011, 3:09 >Subject: Now on Podcast: Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury on "The World Cafe", njc > >As I said the other day, The Preservation Hall Jazz Band and Del McCoury >were on "The World Cafe" this week. Now it's available as a podcast at >*http://tinyurl.com/6csaxy2* > >I tested it; it works for me. I dunno if it works from the UK or China >though. > >Jim L'Hommedieu >np: The Last Waltz downstairs and The World Cafe upstairs ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:16:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Man From Mars Betsy, surely some kind soul will put it out there for you to hear. It's been shared extensively within this group. Bob NP: The Bad Plus, "Flim" From: "betsyblue82@gmail.com" To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:22 AM Subject: Man From Mars Where can I hear the original, from Grace of My Heart? It's $40 for the CD on amazon, and I just can't do it. I do think I will get SoaPG just for Paprika Plains. Even the mp3 sample sounds awesome, but I won't make the mistake of buying any more downloads of Joni's stuff. The packaging is actually worth something to me. NP Jaded, Green Day Betsy ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #271 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------