From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #264 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Monday, September 12 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 264 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney [Lieve Recke] RE: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney ["Richard Fl] I am getting 896 a day from your house... [Jahida Jorganes ] Re: New Library item: Roberta makes it as Joni [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:01:47 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney Hi Richard. Just quickly to let you know that the link does not work any more. And you're right: Let England Shake is not easy on the ear, it demands full attention. But in the end, I still want to be able to enjoy music, not just treat it as an intellectual exercise. Not that it needs to be background music, that would take my argument too far. I own several CDs that I can only listen to when I can focus on them properly and when I am in the right mood. But in the end, my ears - and not only my brain - need to enjoy the experience. I can best compare it with a painting: no matter what intellectual theory may be behind a certain painting, for me it still has to appeal to my eyes in some sort of way, to be pleasing in composition or colour, depth, atmosphere or whatever it is. I discussed this with a friend when we saw the latest Miro exhibition in London. There was a lot of theory given alongside the paintings, about the symbolism and political background, and that was all fascinating and truly interesting, but in the end there were some paintings that I could enjoy on a purely visual level, and others that just struck me as visual failings. And indulging in the fantasy for a moment that I could take those paintings home and hang them in my equally fantasy large home with endless bright entrance halls and display spaces, there were some paintings I wanted to take home and others that, to be honest, I would not want to own. So I think it's easier to agree on an intellectual level on what is "deserving", than to agree on what we actually enjoy. Lieve in London >________________________________ >From: Richard Flynn >To: 'Lieve Reckers' ; 'Mark' ; 'Paul Castle' ; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2011, 1:59 >Subject: RE: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney > >> Personal taste is beyond logic, and maybe just as well! >> >> >> Lieve in London >> >________________________________ > > >It is indeed, I find the Marling and the PJ Harvey discs utterly compelling. > >I've had more time to digest "Let England Shake.' It's not easy on the ears, >but that's the point. >I can't play is as background music, however; it demands my full attention. > >The Marling disc (on the New York Times stream) demanded my attention as >well--and I "pre-ordered" the disc right after I listened to it. > >And Jon Pareles's review makes a case for it without mentioning Joni: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/arts/music/laura-marlings-british-folk-cd- >creature-i-dont-know.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:31:33 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney The link breaks when it is too long. Try this shorturl: http://alturl.com/w5rqp > -----Original Message----- > From: Lieve Reckers [mailto:lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:02 AM > To: Richard Flynn; 'Mark'; 'Paul Castle'; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney > > Hi Richard. Just quickly to let you know that the link does not work > any more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jahida Jorganes Subject: I am getting 896 a day from your house... Yello, If u wanna earn money from home go to http://readtimenews.com/2av&8949 for a really easy technique to earn money from home...I made 896 today. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:41:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney I've had the same experience with liking, even thinking I love, a record at first listen and then, after listening a time or twice more, find I no longer feel the same. So I'm sometimes reluctant to fork out the money. I have a lot of CDs, many of which I love, but rarely listen to, and I wonder how many more I want to acquire in this case? I've spent the last few years trying to rid myself of a lot of junk, both physical and emotional, that I've been carrying around for years, so do I want to get more? I also feel, though, that the older I get, the less likely I am to fall in love, with either music or people. It just doesn't have that head-over-heels, crashing-into-it feel that youth and hormones provide. Not that that makes it jaded or cynical, but it's just different. These days, I think I just appreciate more. I appreciate people and music, and even love them, without necessarily being in love with them. I can (usually anyway) even appreciate people that I don't particularly like, because I realize that they're not perfect and, holy shit, neither am I, and that was probably the biggest, but most obvious, revelation of all, and I'm on my way to forgiving myself for that. I do sometimes miss that feeling of falling that I used to get when I was young, at the time I first discovered Joni Mitchell and at the time or the first few times I thought I was in love with someone. But, on the other hand, I also feel I can just get on with it now more than I could then, and am trying to live more in the present and just enjoying things as they come, not expecting any great revelations, but still appreciating them and enjoying them when they do come along. I've ordered Laura Marling's CD though, as I think I appreciate her music. That should mean I'm unlikely to be disappointed. ;-) What I do find is that I really do want to pay attention to the music I love and I often find I just can't do that anymore and wonder whether I ever could, or just thought that's what I was doing? I don't know whether it's part of the aging process, or just the busyness of life, but am not sure I can just sit there and simply listen to music, and yet I'm well aware that there's a lot of music that demands to be paid attention to. So, it's a bit of a conundrum. I definitely don't think I can just have music on as background. In some ways, the further along I go, the more confused, or maybe bemused, I feel, but the less I care, and the more it becomes simply about the journey. >________________________________ >From: Lieve Reckers >To: Mark ; Paul Castle ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:14:00 PM >Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) - and a bit of PJ Harney > >... >I too, have often bought CDs that I liked at first listen, bought them and >then abandoned them after having heard them a few more times. When then years >later I decide to give them another go, telling myself off for giving up too >easily, I find I like them even less and wonder why on earth I ever bought >them... > >And yes, comparisons to Joni are often a deterrent to me too. "Uh >oh, here comes another disappointment!" is what it makes me think. It's like >falling in love, isn't it? You can't fall in love with someone because he's >just like others you fell in love with before, that would always be a >disappointment. You've got to fall for the uniqueness, the surprise. So by >definition, you don't know what ingredients are going to make up the new love. >And someone can put a lot of fine ingredients together, but the final result >just does not do the trick. > >I'm still not 100% sure that this Laura Marling >CD is going to be really loved by me. At first listen I thought it really >was, but listening again I am vacillating. I am sure I would love this music >at a live gig, but to listen to in the quiet of my home, I find that Laura's >way of singing, by "speaking" rather than "singing" the last words of many >lines, rather grinds with me. The instrumentation is great, though. > >And >talking of nice ingredients that still somehow don't win my heart, that is how >I feel about PJ Harney. She's won the Mercury music prize for the 2nd time, >this time with her CD 'Let England Shake', a concept album about war. It's >all clever and talented, but I don't listen with any musical enjoyment to it. >Personal taste is beyond logic, and maybe just as well! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:31:01 -0500 From: ava rosenblum Subject: video of Shine ballet Does anyone know if a DVD is available of the ballet in Canada that accompanied the release of Shine? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Library item: Roberta makes it as Joni Well, my name is Robert A(lan), pretty darn close too. Bob NP: The Who, "Pictures Of Lily" From: Phyliss To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:36 PM Subject: Re: New Library item: Roberta makes it as Joni My sister's name is Roberta and she was born the same year... http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2416 - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: video of Shine ballet Yep - it's called The Fiddle An The Drum. Here's an Amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/3faqryp Bob NP: Lynyrd Skynyrd, "What's Your Name" From: ava rosenblum To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: video of Shine ballet Does anyone know if a DVD is available of the ballet in Canada that accompanied the release of Shine? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #264 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. 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