From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #261 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 9 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 261 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Laura Marling's new album (njc) [Paul Castle ] Re: another copy [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Cover News - Judy Collins [Richard Goldman ] Midnight Cowboy [B Lux ] Re: Midnight Cowboy [Catherine McKay ] Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) [Mariana Intagliata ] Re: Midnight Cowboy [Bob Muller ] Re: Cover News - Judy Collins [Bob Muller ] Re: Cover News - Judy Collins [Catherine McKay ] Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: 15 Rock Star Odes To The Little Lady Left Behind NJC [Bob Muller Subject: Laura Marling's new album (njc) There's a full stream of Laura Marling's new album 'A Creature I Don't Know' on Guardian music blog @ http://bit.ly/qTyKdT Love it on first listen! After a tour of the States and Canada starting in SF on Sept 17 (including The Troubadour in LA on 20th), she's returning to the UK in October to do a tour of 12 UK Cathedrals - http://www.lauramarling.com/tour/ best to all PaulC NP Laura Marling - The Muse (A Creature I Don't Know) http://blip.fm/~17cl6h ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 10:56:12 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: another copy Many thanks Richard and Simon, for this link. (Don't want to sound funny but I still have problems unzipping, so a simple mp3 file is much appreciated. I do know about unzipping programs, have downloaded them before, but my ailing PC does not seem to like them any more...) It sounds to me like Joni wrote this song on purpose in a much more "cowboy" (i.e. country) style than her own usual style. Or could that be Donal Leace's interpretation? I guess we won't know for sure without hearing Joni's original tape recording of it, but my guess is that she intended to write a country song. And what a line-up of musicians playing with Donal! Keith Jarrett! And produced by Roberta Flack, now that's a surprise, I didn't know she had been producing other people. Also thanks to Bob and Richard for the background stories. It makes it all so real and touchable! Lieve in grey and autumny London (apparently our share of Irene's temper tantrum on the US East coast...) >________________________________ >From: Richard Flynn >To: 'Joni List' >Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011, 23:36 >Subject: another copy > >Shortly after I had uploaded my copy of "Midnight Cowboy," Simon sent me a >link to both .mp3 and .aiff files taken from Bob's covers #14. So here it >is: > >http://tinyurl.com/3pbks2z > > > >Also if anyone wants an uncompressed version of my digitization, I can make >that available, too. > > > >Thanks, Simon! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:02:19 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) Wow thanks, Paul! I heard her before and thought "Yes OK, fine, but I can take or leave her, she's one of many in a style I like but she does not stand out". But now, oh yes I get it, now she does stand out! I'm going to buy this CD, but I just wonder: how many people will pay for this music (buying the CD or paying for a download) if they can hear it all for free like this? Not an original question, I know, but can anyone explain why the Guardian is making the music available for free when I will be the exception by still paying for it? Lieve in London >________________________________ >From: Paul Castle >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011, 8:47 >Subject: Laura Marling's new album (njc) > >There's a full stream of Laura Marling's new album >'A Creature I Don't Know' on Guardian music blog >@ http://bit.ly/qTyKdT > >Love it on first listen! > >After a tour of the States and Canada starting in SF >on Sept 17 (including The Troubadour in LA on 20th), >she's returning to the UK in October to do a tour of >12 UK Cathedrals - http://www.lauramarling.com/tour/ > >best to all >PaulC > >NP Laura Marling - The Muse (A Creature I Don't Know) >http://blip.fm/~17cl6h ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 13:57:52 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) Paul, having seen your news of Laura Marling's Cathedrals Tour and having enjoyed seeing her in Cambridge a couple of years ago, I thought I'd get some tickets - but all sold out! She is going on to great things, it would seem, Anita PS Lieve, I'll be buying it. If someone doesn't buy stuff, how will young artists ever blossom? Crazy, isn't it? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 06:10:40 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins Seventy-two years young now, the woman's touring schedule is massive... http://www.judycollins.com/concerts.cgi She'll be here in San Francisco for 2 entire weeks, at the intimate Rrazz Room end of this month. Can't wait. Hope she has some pre-release copies for sale... ~Richard > > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Covers News - Judy Collins > > Thanks to my brother-in-covers-arms Paul for this tidbit: > > > http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2011/8/29/judy-collins-unveils-detai > ls-about-upcoming-album-bohemian.html > > Judy's upcoming album "Bohemian" will > feature a cover of Cactus Tree, a duet with Shawn Colvin. Should be sweet. > Looks like Judy's been performing the song in her latest shows. > > Can't believe > I scooped Mr. Notaro on this one. > > Bob > > NP: Porcupine Tree, "Drawing The > Line" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:27:10 +0200 From: B Lux Subject: Midnight Cowboy Hi Richard, and hi Bob! Wow thanks for the Donal Leace song - I like it! And thanks for sharing the story Bob! It has some of the same qualities as the song Nilsson sings... Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Midnight Cowboy I like it too. I've never heard it before. Thanks for sharing! >________________________________ >From: B Lux >To: Joni List ; Bob Muller ; Richard Flynn >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:27:10 AM >Subject: Midnight Cowboy > >Hi Richard, and hi Bob! > >Wow thanks for the Donal Leace song - I like it! And thanks for >sharing the story Bob! > >It has some of the same qualities as the song Nilsson sings... > >Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 00:25:42 +0200 From: Mariana Intagliata Subject: Re: Laura Marling's new album (njc) Lieve wrote: "I'm going to buy this CD, but I just wonder: how many people will pay for this music (buying the CD or paying for a download) if they can hear it all for free like this?" Hello, Lieve: I tend to buy the CDs I love -that is, the ones I've already heard and find treasurable. For me, a pre-listen is fundamental due to the fact that CDs are very expensive and also because I hate to buy a CD I think I will like and then when I actually listen to it, I don't, and leave it sleeping on a shelf, gathering dust. I'm all for pre-listens like this -if it's good, people will buy it. Mariana 2011/9/8 Lieve Reckers > Wow thanks, Paul! > > I heard her before and thought "Yes OK, fine, but I can > take or leave her, she's one of many in a style I like but she does not > stand > out". But now, oh yes I get it, now she does stand out! > > I'm going to buy > this CD, but I just wonder: how many people will pay for this music (buying > the CD or paying for a download) if they can hear it all for free like > this? > Not an original question, I know, but can anyone explain why the Guardian > is > making the music available for free when I will be the exception by still > paying for it? > Lieve in London > > > > >________________________________ > >From: > Paul Castle > >To: joni@smoe.org > >Sent: Thursday, 8 > September 2011, 8:47 > >Subject: Laura Marling's new album (njc) > > > >There's a > full stream of Laura Marling's new album > >'A Creature I Don't Know' on > Guardian music blog > >@ http://bit.ly/qTyKdT > > > >Love it on first listen! > > > >After a tour of the States and Canada starting in SF > >on Sept 17 (including > The Troubadour in LA on 20th), > >she's returning to the UK in October to do a > tour of > >12 UK Cathedrals - http://www.lauramarling.com/tour/ > > > >best to all > >PaulC > > > >NP Laura Marling - The Muse (A Creature I Don't Know) > >http://blip.fm/~17cl6h ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 00:28:21 +0000 From: betsyblue82@gmail.com Subject: 15 Rock Star Odes To The Little Lady Left Behind Coyote and Blonde in the Bleachers are mentioned in this article. I feel like there are so many more because Joni's always leaving someone behind or getting left behind. Song for Sharon is not directed at a lover, but it is to a lady left behind by a rock star. So that's my pick. Any other suggestions? http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/09/02/140144258/15-rock-star-odes-to-the-little-lady-left-behind?sc=emaf NP Big Yellow Taxi (Spectrum '76 live) Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:43:06 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins It looks like Bremerton WA is the closest she will be coming to me. That's across Puget Sound from here. A lovely ferry ride in good weather but she's going to be there in January! Looking forward to the new release though. Mark nearly in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goldman Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 6:10 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins Seventy-two years young now, the woman's touring schedule is massive... http://www.judycollins.com/concerts.cgi She'll be here in San Francisco for 2 entire weeks, at the intimate Rrazz Room end of this month. Can't wait. Hope she has some pre-release copies for sale... ~Richard > > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Covers News - Judy Collins > > Thanks to my brother-in-covers-arms Paul for this tidbit: > > > http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2011/8/29/judy-collins-unveils-detai > ls-about-upcoming-album-bohemian.html > > Judy's upcoming album "Bohemian" will > feature a cover of Cactus Tree, a duet with Shawn Colvin. Should be sweet. > Looks like Judy's been performing the song in her latest shows. > > Can't believe > I scooped Mr. Notaro on this one. > > Bob > > NP: Porcupine Tree, "Drawing The > Line" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:43:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Midnight Cowboy If you want even MORE backstory, my impression is that the request was for something "like" 'Everybody's Talkin'" (the Fred Neil song sung by Nilsson that was of course eventually used). So if Joni's song sounds like it, that's probably the reason. Nilsson also offered an original composition, "I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City", also VERY much in the style of Fred's song. Like Joni's, it wasn't used in the film but in his case he did record and release the track on his (superb) album "Harry". A similar story surrounds the theme song to Ghostbusters, the hit by Ray Parker back in the 80's. The director instructed him to compose a song similar to Huey Lewis' "I Want A New Drug" and unfortunately Parker got TOO close to the original. He was sued by Huey and had to pony up some bucks for copying it. Further to Midnight Cowboy, for those who have seen it, I often feel like Ratso Rizzo crossing the streets of Beijing, yelling to the cars, cabs, bikes and scooters "I'm walkin' here! I'm walkin' here!" So far I've only been hit once, by an old guy on a bike going the wrong way. I suffered minimal damage. Bob NP: Train, "Younger Brother" From: B Lux To: Joni List ; Bob Muller ; Richard Flynn Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 9:27 PM Subject: Midnight Cowboy Hi Richard, and hi Bob! Wow thanks for the Donal Leace song - - I like it! And thanks for sharing the story Bob! It has some of the same qualities as the song Nilsson sings... Bene ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:46:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins AND she still sounds really good to boot. I'm not a huge Judy fan but I certainly respect her career, and her endurance, especially in light of all that she has gone through. Would that Joni have some of those characteristics. Enjoy the show and I'll look forward to your report Richard. Bob NP: U2, "The Unforgettable Fire" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins Well, then, you can skate across! Judy has come to Hugh's Room here in Toronto a few times and I expect she may be back. Hugh's Room is a lovely small venue and I guess partly because of that, the ticket prices to see her were quite steep but, if she comes back this year, I'll consider treating myself. >________________________________ >From: Mark >To: Richard Goldman ; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:43:06 PM >Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins > >It looks like Bremerton WA is the closest she will be coming to me. That's >across Puget Sound from here. A lovely ferry ride in good weather but she's >going to be there in January! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:53:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC And she played at the Handlebar in Greenville right after I left for China...even though I'm not a major fan, she is a legend and the venue is outstanding. I would have gone. I saw Joan Baez there (who is in the same category for me as Judy) and it was incredible and very moving and Joan couldn't have been warmer or kinder and she's also still in top form. Bob NP: The Rosebuds, "Second Bird Of Paradise" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC I'm sort of ambivalent about both Judy and Joan. I love some of their stuff, hate some of it, and feel very "meh" about a lot of it too, and yet, I'd want to see both of them at least once. >________________________________ >From: Bob Muller >To: Catherine McKay ; Mark ; Richard Goldman ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:53:09 PM >Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC > > >And she played at the Handlebar in Greenville right after I left for China...even though I'm not a major fan, she is a legend and the venue is outstanding. I would have gone. I saw Joan Baez there (who is in the same category for me as Judy) and it was incredible and very moving and Joan couldn't have been warmer or kinder and she's also still in top form. > >Bob > >NP: The Rosebuds, "Second Bird Of Paradise" > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:28:59 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC I saw Judy at the Moore Theatre 5 or 6 years ago. I think she's done some amazing things in her recording career. Some of it, like with you Catherine, doesn't do that much for me. But she is well worth seeing live. A living legend, imo. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:18 PM To: Bob Muller ; Mark ; Richard Goldman ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC I'm sort of ambivalent about both Judy and Joan. I love some of their stuff, hate some of it, and feel very "meh" about a lot of it too, and yet, I'd want to see both of them at least once. From: Bob Muller To: Catherine McKay ; Mark ; Richard Goldman ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:53:09 PM Subject: Re: Cover News - Judy Collins NJC And she played at the Handlebar in Greenville right after I left for China...even though I'm not a major fan, she is a legend and the venue is outstanding. I would have gone. I saw Joan Baez there (who is in the same category for me as Judy) and it was incredible and very moving and Joan couldn't have been warmer or kinder and she's also still in top form. Bob NP: The Rosebuds, "Second Bird Of Paradise" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 23:35:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: 15 Rock Star Odes To The Little Lady Left Behind NJC I couldn't pull up the article so I'm not sure what's listed there, but the classic "Brandy" by Looking Glass comes immediately to mind. Bob NP: Andrew Bird, "Core and Rind" From: "betsyblue82@gmail.com" To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: 15 Rock Star Odes To The Little Lady Left Behind Coyote and Blonde in the Bleachers are mentioned in this article. I feel like there are so many more because Joni's always leaving someone behind or getting left behind. Song for Sharon is not directed at a lover, but it is to a lady left behind by a rock star. So that's my pick. Any other suggestions? http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/09/02/140144258/15-rock-star-odes-to- the-little-lady-left-behind?sc=emaf NP Big Yellow Taxi (Spectrum '76 live) Betsy ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #261 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------