From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #168 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Thursday, June 9 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 168 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Ray LaMontagne [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC this time [] Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... [FMYF] [none] [Ann ] Re: Now it's personal preference and privacy and cellphones and the appropriatness or inappropriatness thereof NJC [] Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... [Anita G ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:26:00 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Ray LaMontagne Hi Ken, You must have missed my post but I was touting the talents of Mr La Montagne and gave a special mention to, "Beg, Steal Or Borrow". I listened to it back to back with Joni's, "The Gallery" and found a remarkable similarity. The phrasing of course. The lyrics are completely different. Mark in frigid Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 04:15:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC this time I had to think really hard about this. I guess my mind is just gone, because I don't really remember the very first time I heard any given album. Except I do remember ONE, because the situation was so weird. The album was Jefferson Airplane's "Bless Its Pointed Little Head" (live album). And I was tripping my asssssssss off on some windowpane. This was in the mid 70's and I was about 15 or 16. I had traded Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" to a kid at school. I think I gave the Airplane album a quick listen and quick rejection, so I never really "listened" - just heard and dismissed. I didn't get it, and it was too heavy for me at the time. But I put it on during this trip, and I vividly remember how much it just RIPPED. A scary experience all in all though, as I stood up on the bed in the dark and couldn't remember what position I was in. Called a friend and she talked me down. But yeah, "Bless Its PLH" was the soundtrack. And I've been a total freak for anything Airplane and or Hot Tuna ever since. That's honestly the only album (besides real recent ones) that I can recall the first time I listened to it. Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:39:16 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time All Joni, Surrealistic Pillow, Christmas and the Beads of Sweat, Sgt. Peppers, The White Album (especially), Wildflowers, Bookends, Hair, People, Judy at Carnegie Hall, Between the Lines, to name a few. I think we listened better then...... Jerry On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Gerald P Kent wrote: > For rock and roll: led zeps stairway to heaven, laura nyro and labelle > (might have still been the bluebells w/Nona Hendricks) "gonna take a > miracle", it's a beautiful day's "white bird", Jefferson Airplaine's "today" > joni's "last time I saw Richard" and almost all of her stuff from that > period. If not r and roll limited; Edith pilaf "la vien rose"(? Spell), > Ella Fitzgerald "a ticket a tasket" and Judy garland's "Carnige hall" > classic > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:36 PM, "Randy Remote" wrote: > > > Certainly "Dark Side of The Moon" because I saw Pink Floyd > > at Winterland six months before the album came out, and they > > were performing the entire thing. "Money", "Us and Them" and > > the finale part especially stuck in my head. They had a 16 channel > > sound system, so the coins, cash registers, etc were coming from > > behind and all around. It was exciting to hear the album when it > > finally came out in '73. > > Other big first impressions were > > Beatles-Rubber Soul > > Country Joe and the Fish-Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die > > Cream-Disraeli Gears > > The Who-Tommy > > Moody Blues-Every Good Boy Deserves Favour > > Heart-Little Queen > > Dan Hicks-Striking It Rich > > Grateful Dead-Wake of The Flood > > to name a few, and of course, FTR, DJRD, LOTC... > > RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:44:06 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC this time Wow, talk about memorable! Lieve ________________________________ From: Em To: "" Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2011, 12:15 Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC this time I had to think really hard about this. I guess my mind is just gone, because I don't really remember the very first time I heard any given album. Except I do remember ONE, because the situation was so weird. The album was Jefferson Airplane's "Bless Its Pointed Little Head" (live album). And I was tripping my asssssssss off on some windowpane. This was in the mid 70's and I was about 15 or 16. I had traded Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" to a kid at school. I think I gave the Airplane album a quick listen and quick rejection, so I never really "listened" - just heard and dismissed. I didn't get it, and it was too heavy for me at the time. But I put it on during this trip, and I vividly remember how much it just RIPPED. A scary experience all in all though, as I stood up on the bed in the dark and couldn't remember what position I was in. Called a friend and she talked me down. But yeah, "Bless Its PLH" was the soundtrack. And I've been a total freak for anything Airplane and or Hot Tuna ever since. That's honestly the only album (besides real recent ones) that I can recall the first time I listened to it. Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:53:20 +0800 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC < I think we listened better then......> I think it has more to do with the format - you'd put on an ALBUM, and learn it from start to finish, when Side 1 ended, side 2, etc. Those albums that worked as albums and not just collections of hits or random songs or whatever make those kind of impressions. Digital music begs to be re-programmed, randomized, etc. And now with I-tunes, the current generation buys SONGS, not albums. Kind of a throwback to the early 60's when the 45 record was the format, at least in the pop realm. Plus there's the distraction issue - attention spans influenced by the addiction to check a cell phone for a text, or an email, or something else. I hate that. If we're at a restaurant and you have to keep checking your phone, it means my company doesn't mean very much to you and I will get up and head out. Bob NP: Joni, "Cactus Tree" from Amchitka - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:28:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC I have to agree with you on this, Bob. Sometimes I'm OK with all that, thinking it's just a sign of the changing times and maybe I'm just an old fogey, but really, back then, you could concentrate on the music and give it all your attention, like it was some kind of holy ceremony. There was very little to distract you. Cellphones and electronic gadgets are fun but they are also a major pet peeve of mine. I usually have my Ipod on when I'm walking to and from work but not when I'm with someone. As far as I'm concerned, cellphones should remain OFF when you're at a restaurant or in someone else's company (assuming you WANT to be in their company - they can be good for gettiing you out of a situation you'd like to be out of), unless you're waiting for news of a loved one who is seriously ill or for an organ transplant. It drives me NUTS when I see so many people at work or here in the building where I live or just walking down the street (or driving!) who are texting or talking on their cell phone. How many times has someone almost walked right into you because they're walkin' and textin'? Last night, a young guy got on the elevator where we live (it takes about 20 whole seconds to reach the first floor) but as soon as he got on, he was on the cellphone, with his headset having a banal conversation with someone about where he was and what he was doing. Makes it very awkward for other people on the elevator. Let's all just stand here and stare at you while you talk about stupid things to your buddy. Or, there's the "business" types, who have very loud conversations about their business things while you're at the supermarket and they're all you can hear and even the Muzak doesn't drown them out. Back to music and first listens, my memory isn't all that great for this kind of thing, but I do remember that, whenever a new Joni album came out, at least between the FTR and Hejira days, I would anticipate listening to it and just couldn't wait to get home to the stereo to put it on. The stereo was in our basement, so you could go down there and listen without anyone else bugging you. The first album I remember buying on my own was the self-titled "Blood Sweat and Tears" LP, the first one with David Clayton Thomas as vocalist. That was my first experience with music that wasn't just straight radio-pop music. There was jazz. There were Laura Nyro songs. A girl in my class wanted to borrow it. She was one of the cool kids and I was not. I was afraid she'd "forget" to return it, but she borrowed it and then brought it back to school a few days later. Relief! A few other albums that stand out from my teen years: Cat Stevens' "Tea for the Tillerman" and "Teaser and the Firecat." I was in love at the time with a boy who was also a big Cat Stevens fan and we went to see "Harold and Maude" together. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: Gerald Notaro > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 7:53:20 AM > Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for >the first time NJC > > < I think we listened better then......> > > I think it has more to do with the format - you'd put on an ALBUM, and > learn it from start to finish, when Side 1 ended, side 2, etc. Those > albums that worked as albums and not just collections of hits or random > songs or whatever make those kind of impressions. Digital music begs to be > re-programmed, randomized, etc. And now with I-tunes, the current > generation buys SONGS, not albums. Kind of a throwback to the early 60's > when the 45 record was the format, at least in the pop realm. > > Plus there's the distraction issue - attention spans influenced by the > addiction to check a cell phone for a text, or an email, or something > else. I hate that. If we're at a restaurant and you have to keep checking > your phone, it means my company doesn't mean very much to you and I will > get up and head out. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "Cactus Tree" from Amchitka ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC Bob wrote: Plus there's the distraction issue - attention spans influenced by the addiction to check a cell phone for a text, or an email, or something else. I hate that. If we're at a restaurant and you have to keep checking your phone, it means my company doesn't mean very much to you and I will get up and head out. Hi Bob, This is so true. Sometimes I leave the sound off on my cell phone by mistake and realize how nice it is not to have it ringing or that little sound it makes when a text or email comes in. I am convinced that not only is not good for friendships to have this distraction, it isn't good for the nerves. There is something I think to aging also that keeps me from being as struck by music as much as I was growing up. I have to wonder what will stick with my kids, what they would say as adults in answer to the subject line of this thread. They have so many technology distractions. I have a friend staying in a shelter run by Mother Theresa's sisters. They have to turn in their cell phones at 7pm and be in their rooms (private rooms) by 8pm. I think they can have a CD player with head phones and are encouraged to read books and write letters in their rooms. That simplicity and silence is so appealing to me in the noise of technology. I remember when it was just me and my transistor radio and the stations were few and far between. Not that I don't value technology... I am using it to communicate right now. But, it can be overwhelming. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC Catherine wrote: Last night, a young guy got on the elevator where we live (it takes about 20 whole seconds to reach the first floor) but as soon as he got on, he was on the cellphone, with his headset having a banal conversation with someone about where he was and what he was doing. Makes it very awkward for other people on the elevator. Hi Catherine, This made me think of a few days ago in the bathroom at a store. I use a blue tooth, and my phone rings inside the bluetooth but not so others can hear it. I was in the stall and it rang so I said, "hello" and a kid in the stall next to me said hello back to me. I felt so bad. Sometimes I'm bluetoothing a conversation and people walking by think I'm talking to them and respond. Others just think I'm schizophrenic or dellusional. You, me, and the person on my bluetooth whom you can't hear gives a whole new meaning to three's a crowd. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Now it's personal preference and privacy and cellphones and the appropriatness or inappropriatness thereof NJC I'd like to think I'll never be a slave to a phone. I hate the phone anyway and only call people if I absolutely have to. I prefer email or in-person. There's something very disconcerting to me about telephone conversations unless they're strictly of the information-gathering kind. (As in, "Dear Bell Canada, what can you do for me that will reduce my ever-rising monthly bill for services I don't use all that much?") Kind of ironic, then, that I do a job that involves a lot of phone work, but that has only added more incentive to my decision to take an early retirement. I used to work on the main floor of the building I work in. Frequently, when I went into the washroom, there would be someone sitting in one of the stalls having a telephone conversation. Talk about yer lack of respect for the person you're talking to. Maybe that's just me, but I think it would be pretty easy to figure out where the person was, hearing a toilet flush in the background. And I'm being polite. There are other sounds you hear in the washroom and you know what those are! She was likely someone whose only refuge was a bathroom stall. I'm guessing she worked at a job where every movement in the workplace was monitored, so she couldn't make any personal phone calls. Fortunately, I couldn't understand what she was saying, as she was't speaking English. There is always the option to NOT answer the phone, and this is an option I exercise frequently. I don't answer the phone at home if I don't recognize the number - sometimes even when I DO recognize the number - ha ha! I have entertained the idea of doing away with a phone altogether. In fact, if someone knocks on our door, I often don't answer it either (I check the peephole first.) We had a couple of experiences when we lived in the house with weirdos just randomly knocking on the door and the kids opening the door and then us trying to get rid of the person. It was then I reached the decision that you are not obligated to respond just because someone phones or knocks on the door. If you don't recognize who they are and it's not the cops, then why answer? This makes me sad in a way, because it's antisocial, but I'm tired of people calling me wanting to do idiotic surveys or trying to guilt me into making monthly donations to their charity (I do donate to charities but there are too many options these days) or into getting their credit card or cellphone service, and I can't digest information of that kind over the phone. As well, I can't stand it when people I don't know and who don't know me try to get all chatty and friendly and I'll often interrupt them and ask, "So, what are you selling?" My kids often think I'm rude but I don't use a rude tone (much) and I just like people to get to the point and not waste my time or theirs. > >From: Lc Stanley >To: Catherine McKay ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Gerald Notaro > >Cc: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 9:44:50 AM >Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the >first time NJC > > > > >Hi Catherine, > > >This made me think of a few days ago in the bathroom at a store. I use a blue >tooth, and my phone rings inside the bluetooth but not so others can hear it. I >was in the stall and it rang so I said, "hello" and a kid in the stall next to >me said hello back to me. I felt so bad. Sometimes I'm bluetoothing a >conversation and people walking by think I'm talking to them and respond. > Others just think I'm schizophrenic or dellusional. You, me, and the person on >my bluetooth whom you can't hear gives a whole new meaning to three's a crowd. > > >Love, >Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 09:54:09 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC I agree completely!!! Bring back concept vinyl!! ;-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:53 AM To: Gerald Notaro Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC < I think we listened better then......> I think it has more to do with the format - you'd put on an ALBUM, and learn it from start to finish, when Side 1 ended, side 2, etc. Those albums that worked as albums and not just collections of hits or random songs or whatever make those kind of impressions. Digital music begs to be re-programmed, randomized, etc. And now with I-tunes, the current generation buys SONGS, not albums. Kind of a throwback to the early 60's when the 45 record was the format, at least in the pop realm. Plus there's the distraction issue - attention spans influenced by the addiction to check a cell phone for a text, or an email, or something else. I hate that. If we're at a restaurant and you have to keep checking your phone, it means my company doesn't mean very much to you and I will get up and head out. Bob NP: Joni, "Cactus Tree" from Amchitka - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:12:32 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: the distraction issue NJC My daughter reminds me daily that having these views about texting and smartphones puts me securely in another generation. The way she says it is, "you're old, that's why you say that." :-) My friend and I go to chili's quite often and I always look around the dining room and count how many tables have people NOT texting or browsing on their smartphone. It's usually under 1 not counting our table. :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:53 AM To: Gerald Notaro Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time NJC < I think we listened better then......> I think it has more to do with the format - you'd put on an ALBUM, and learn it from start to finish, when Side 1 ended, side 2, etc. Those albums that worked as albums and not just collections of hits or random songs or whatever make those kind of impressions. Digital music begs to be re-programmed, randomized, etc. And now with I-tunes, the current generation buys SONGS, not albums. Kind of a throwback to the early 60's when the 45 record was the format, at least in the pop realm. Plus there's the distraction issue - attention spans influenced by the addiction to check a cell phone for a text, or an email, or something else. I hate that. If we're at a restaurant and you have to keep checking your phone, it means my company doesn't mean very much to you and I will get up and head out. Bob NP: Joni, "Cactus Tree" from Amchitka - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:29:05 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:19:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > Except I do remember ONE, because the situation was so weird. > > I had a similar experience Em. I was in high school and a friend talked me into going to going to a small party. The parents weren't home. We drank Boonesfarm Strawberry Hill, and it was the first time I smoked pot. The one kid had just purchased Led Zepplin's "Houses of the Holy". I got sick as a dog. It was also announced on TV that Jim Croce was killed in a plane crash. The kid kept playing "Houses of the Holy" and I kept throwing up. It took several years before I could listen to that album, but I'll never forget the night. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:18:36 -0400 From: Ann Subject: [none] http://castlekeeperscleaningservice.com/images/stories/arsik.php http://bidimaxu.t35.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6ZhsVjzBic ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:46:43 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Now it's personal preference and privacy and cellphones and the appropriatness or inappropriatness thereof NJC I was on a train sitting opposite a business man on a mobile for over half an hour talking things that were really confidential about somebody's performance at work. When he finally finished his call I told him how much I deeply resented being in his 'office' for the train journey and that sharing confidences in such a public way was disgraceful. It's way beyond me that someone thinks that's an okay way to behave or to treat people. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:58:01 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... My druggy album was by the Japanese synth king, Tomita, who took lots of Debussy works and played them on synths, late 70s early 80s, I think. The sounds are just incredible and one track (I think it was Snowflakes are Dancing) can still transport me to a very weird inner landscape of my own, but one that I'm quite fond of. Very snowy, very Hejira cover. The sounds move from extreme stereo left and right and fall away in the most peculiar ways. I just thought it was the most amazing thing. However, I think the dope had quite a bit to do with that - but it is, nonetheless, a wonderful album. I'd quite forgotten it till I read your stories, Em and Jimmy. Fortunately, my experiences were more pleasurable. Anita On 8 June 2011 15:29, wrote: > In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:19:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > >> Except I do remember ONE, because the situation was so weird. >> >> > > I had a similar experience Em. I was in high school and a friend talked me > into going to going to a small party. The parents weren't home. We drank > Boonesfarm Strawberry Hill, and it was the first time I smoked pot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:26:17 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time (NJC) Ok, my selections are obviously different from all of these amazing classic albums you all have mentioned, but nevertheless, these were all amazing experiences for me - leaving out the Joni content because those are stories that would take days: The Unforgettable Fire - U2 (my first U2 album) Berlin - Pleasure Victim and Lovelife (loved loved loved synth rock) Ministry - Twitch (loved loved loved industrial) Severed Heads - Dead Eyes Opened (ditto) Skinny Puppy - Remission and Bites (did I mention I loved industrial?) Mellancamp - The Lonesome Jubilee Wes - Welenga (thanks Ashara!) X - More Fun in the New World Kate Bush - Hounds of Love Madonna - Madonna Depeche Mode - Catching up with Depeche Mode The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Sade - Diamond Life (I was a hopeless romantic, even at 15) Stevie Nicks - The Wild Heart (I remember where I was for the first listen of each of her first 4 solo albums, but this one is the clearest) Oh, there are millions of others, but I chose these ones just to show how, even though they seem odd and perhaps different than the ones that other people have posted, they still had a profound impact for me to remember where I was when I first played them. However, there are certain songs that have had the same impact, where you sort of stop dead in your tracks and go "wth was that?" I still remember hearing When Doves Cry for the first time. I remember every odd detail. I was 14 years old, it was a Saturday morning, and I was shirtless and wearing the ugliest pair of bleached cut-offs ever worn, and I was in my kitchen rooting through this junk drawer for something. I had this portable a.m. radio playing in the background and American Top 40 was on. I can still hear the jingle "number 36!" being sung and then Casey launched into the new Prince song. I wasn't really paying all that much attention, though, until suddenly the hairs on the back of my neck stoo d up and I thought "what the hell is THIS?!" Why I thought it was so awesome, I don't know (I still love the song, but I don't know that it would stop anyone else in his/her tracks). But the point was, it was a moment. I cranked up that tinny radio and after that I kept my ear glued to the radio, hoping it would be played again on my local station. It's moments like those that really hit home how music really impacts your life. And, I have to admit that I am jealous of all of you who got to hear so many classic albums right when they were coming out - how exciting it must have been. While I have good memories to where I was when the first 3 Talk Talk came out, it isn't as momentous as a new Led Zep album ;) Rob np: "How Long" by Ace (on my tinny a.m. radio in my office, where the antenna has to touch the blind on the sealed up window in order to get reception for my favorite oldies station - btw, this song still rocks!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:07:10 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time (NJC) Ok I will bite since I am in the office while my work mates and band and everyone is outside in the heat eating crawfish and drinking beer. I am in the cool office checking email. Albums that knocked me on my ass the first time I heard them Cap Enrage-Zachary Richard For The Roses Close To The Edge-Yes 1000 Kisses-Patty Griffin (Thanks Yael!!) Jonatha Brooke-Live Album Pictures at 11-Robert Plant Every Beatle album I ever heard McCartney Tones-Eric Johnson Oh shit I could go on for hours but at least it is a start. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Robert Procyk wrote: Ok, my selections are obviously different from all of these amazing classic albums you all have mentioned, but nevertheless, these were all amazing experiences for me - leaving out the Joni content because those are stories that would take days: The Unforgettable Fire - U2 (my first U2 album) Berlin - Pleasure Victim and Lovelife (loved loved loved synth rock) Ministry - Twitch (loved loved loved industrial) Severed Heads - Dead Eyes Opened (ditto) Skinny Puppy - Remission and Bites (did I mention I loved industrial?) Mellancamp - The Lonesome Jubilee Wes - Welenga (thanks Ashara!) X - More Fun in the New World Kate Bush - Hounds of Love Madonna - Madonna Depeche Mode - Catching up with Depeche Mode The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Sade - Diamond Life (I was a hopeless romantic, even at 15) Stevie Nicks - The Wild Heart (I remember where I was for the first listen of each of her first 4 solo albums, but this one is the clearest) Oh, there are millions of others, but I chose these ones just to show how, even though they seem odd and perhaps different than the ones that other people have posted, they still had a profound impact for me to remember where I was when I first played them. However, there are certain songs that have had the same impact, where you sort of stop dead in your tracks and go "wth was that?" I still remember hearing When Doves Cry for the first time. I remember every odd detail. I was 14 years old, it was a Saturday morning, and I was shirtless and wearing the ugliest pair of bleached cut-offs ever worn, and I was in my kitchen rooting through this junk drawer for something. I had this portable a.m. radio playing in the background and American Top 40 was on. I can still hear the jingle "number 36!" being sung and then Casey launched into the new Prince song. I wasn't really paying all that much attention, though, until suddenly the hairs on the back of my neck stoo d up and I thought "what the hell is THIS?!" Why I thought it was so awesome, I don't know (I still love the song, but I don't know that it would stop anyone else in his/her tracks). But the point was, it was a moment. I cranked up that tinny radio and after that I kept my ear glued to the radio, hoping it would be played again on my local station. It's moments like those that really hit home how music really impacts your life. And, I have to admit that I am jealous of all of you who got to hear so many classic albums right when they were coming out - how exciting it must have been. While I have good memories to where I was when the first 3 Talk Talk came out, it isn't as momentous as a new Led Zep album ;) Rob np: "How Long" by Ace (on my tinny a.m. radio in my office, where the antenna has to touch the blind on the sealed up window in order to get reception for my favorite oldies station - btw, this song still rocks!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time (NJC) I think it's amazing to see how many songs or albums are mentioned here where I find myself nodding in agreement, but also so many that I'm not familiar with. I often wonder what my kids are going to find memorable in another 20-30 years. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Robert Procyk > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 6:26:17 PM > Subject: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the >first time (NJC) > > Ok, my selections are obviously different from all of these amazing > classic albums you all have mentioned, but nevertheless, these were all > amazing experiences for me - leaving out the Joni content because those > are stories that would take days: > > The Unforgettable Fire - U2 (my first U2 album) > > Berlin - Pleasure Victim and Lovelife (loved loved loved synth rock) > > Ministry - Twitch (loved loved loved industrial) > > Severed Heads - Dead Eyes Opened (ditto) > > Skinny Puppy - Remission and Bites (did I mention I loved industrial?) > > Mellancamp - The Lonesome Jubilee > > Wes - Welenga (thanks Ashara!) > > X - More Fun in the New World > > Kate Bush - Hounds of Love > > Madonna - Madonna > > Depeche Mode - Catching up with Depeche Mode > > The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me > > Sade - Diamond Life (I was a hopeless romantic, even at 15) > > Stevie Nicks - The Wild Heart (I remember where I was for the first > listen of each of her first 4 solo albums, but this one is the clearest) > > Oh, there are millions of others, but I chose these ones just to show > how, even though they seem odd and perhaps different than the ones that > other people have posted, they still had a profound impact for me to > remember where I was when I first played them. However, there are certain > songs that have had the same impact, where you sort of stop dead in your > tracks and go "wth was that?" I still remember hearing When Doves Cry > for the first time. I remember every odd detail. I was 14 years old, it > was a Saturday morning, and I was shirtless and wearing the ugliest pair > of bleached cut-offs ever worn, and I was in my kitchen rooting through > this junk drawer for something. I had this portable a.m. radio playing in > the background and American Top 40 was on. I can still hear the jingle > "number 36!" being sung and then Casey launched into the new Prince > song. I wasn't really paying all that much attention, though, until > suddenly the hairs on the back of my neck stoo d up and I thought "what > the hell is THIS?!" Why I thought it was so awesome, I don't know (I > still love the song, but I don't know that it would stop anyone else in > his/her tracks). But the point was, it was a moment. I cranked up that > tinny radio and after that I kept my ear glued to the radio, hoping it > would be played again on my local station. It's moments like those that > really hit home how music really impacts your life. > > And, I have to admit that I am jealous of all of you who got to hear so > many classic albums right when they were coming out - how exciting it > must have been. While I have good memories to where I was when the first > 3 Talk Talk came out, it isn't as momentous as a new Led Zep album ;) > > Rob > > np: "How Long" by Ace (on my tinny a.m. radio in my office, where the > antenna has to touch the blind on the sealed up window in order to get > reception for my favorite oldies station - btw, this song still rocks!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 16:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Now it's personal preference and privacy and cellphones and the appropriatness or inappropriatness thereof NJC It's amazing that so many people will discuss confidential issues on elevators or on cell phones out in public. This is something they're constantly hitting us over the head with at work: do NOT discuss confidential items outside of the office. And yet some people are so oblivious that they completely forget they're surrounded by so many other ears. So glad you put him in his place - he could have gotten in much worse trouble. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Anita G > To: Catherine McKay > Cc: Lc Stanley ; Bob.Muller@fluor.com; Gerald Notaro >; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 5:46:43 PM > Subject: Re: Now it's personal preference and privacy and cellphones and the >appropriatness or inappropriatness thereof NJC > > I was on a train sitting opposite a business man on a mobile for over > half an hour talking things that were really confidential about > somebody's performance at work. When he finally finished his call I > told him how much I deeply resented being in his 'office' for the > train journey and that sharing confidences in such a public way was > disgraceful. > > It's way beyond me that someone thinks that's an okay way to behave or > to treat people. > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:16:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first time (NJC) <"How Long" by Ace (on my tinny a.m. radio in my office, where the antenna has to touch the blind on the sealed up window in order to get reception for my favorite oldies station - btw, this song still rocks!)> Indeed - a nearly perfect bit of pop music magic, featuring Paul Carrack's outstanding vocal. Haven't heard it in forever. We used to change the words, kind of a play on "How Long" if you can use your imagination and think of how high school guys would complete that phrase... Bob NP:C Paul Simon, "Love And Blessings" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:18:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... NJC I think everyone has a story that contains the phrases "Boone's Farm", "Led Zeppelin" and "throwing up". At least they should. Bob NP: Paul Simon, "So Beautiful Or So What" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:56:11 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Albums or songs that you never forget when you heard them for the first... Anita, I, too, did a lot of stoned listening to Tomita, especially Claire de Lune. Took me to another planet. The first song I heard stoned was Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf. I remember that it seemed to last an hour, and I did go on that ride! When it was over I said to myself, OK, now I know what all the hoopla is about this kind of music. I truly didn't get it until then. Jerry On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Anita G wrote: > My druggy album was by the Japanese synth king, Tomita, who took lots > of Debussy works and played them on synths, late 70s early 80s, I > think. The sounds are just incredible and one track (I think it was > Snowflakes are Dancing) can still transport me to a very weird inner > landscape of my own, but one that I'm quite fond of. Very snowy, very > Hejira cover. The sounds move from extreme stereo left and right and > fall away in the most peculiar ways. I just thought it was the most > amazing thing. However, I think the dope had quite a bit to do with > that - but it is, nonetheless, a wonderful album. > I'd quite forgotten it till I read your stories, Em and Jimmy. > Fortunately, my experiences were more pleasurable. > Anita > > On 8 June 2011 15:29, wrote: > > In a message dated 6/8/2011 7:19:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: > > > >> Except I do remember ONE, because the situation was so weird. > >> > >> > > > > I had a similar experience Em. I was in high school and a friend talked > me > > into going to going to a small party. The parents weren't home. We drank > > Boonesfarm Strawberry Hill, and it was the first time I smoked pot. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:21:24 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Where I First Heard Albums or Songs (Tried to construct a subject line that wouldn't spill into the next line) I'll always remember hearing the Nazz Nazz album (Todd Rundgren) for the first time when a cousin of a friend gave me a box of albums he wanted to sell for, like, a buck apiece; I listened to a few dozen but that was the only one I kept. I first heard Joni's "Court & Spark" when my wife & I were spending a weekend at my cousin's house and he put it on the turntable while we were sipping Cognac. Back in the '70s & '80s, we had a great radio station here on Long Island (WLIR FM) that played all the best (eclectic) rock on a regular basis. But one night a week, they'd play a new album in its entirety so I distinctly remember hearing certain albums (which became faves) in that way, including Utopia's "Oops, Wrong Planet." (WLIR is long gone but WFUV 90.7 FM still does the new album thing every Thursday night.) I was road-testing a customer's car after doing a wheel alignment on it (during the 1970s) and found Joe Walsh's "The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get" in the cassette player. After listening to a few tunes, I ran out to buy the album as soon as I could. Lots more like those... Kenny B ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #168 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------