From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #153 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 25 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 153 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Radka TOneff does Jimmy Webb [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Joni/Jimmy connection [] RE: Jimmy Webb and Joni [Walt Breen ] RE: Tunings for Woodstock [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Richard Thompson (NJC) [Steve Dulson ] Simile (w/Joni) [Ken ] more on Jimmy Webb [Ken ] Helped me, here\'s the proof. I can help you in.... [Kelly Loughran ] Everything works, I recommend to you. I want to show you [Kelly Loughra] Joni/Jimmy (NJC) [Lindsay Moon ] spam from smoe ["Mark" ] Re: spam from smoe [Gerald Notaro ] Re: spam from smoe [shadows and light ] RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #152 [Mary Morris ] joni at the troubadour monday night [Mags ] james blake case of you [Mags ] Re: spam from smoe [T Peckham ] Re: well written blog post from Court & Spark [T Peckham Subject: Radka TOneff does Jimmy Webb Our greatest singer of all times in Norway did this fantastic cover of Webbs "The moon's a harsh mistress," before she passed away, only 31 or 32 years old. Take a moment Hold your breath. Love Oddmund http://youtu.be/XtgIxU8TCyY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 00:23:15 -0700 From: Subject: Joni/Jimmy connection Hi Paul, I'm on digest so didn't know you already posted about the "Letters" liner notes until just now! Sorry to be redundant ;-) This thread is sparking some of my Jimmy memory bits. If I think of anything to offer, I'll add to it. Do want to add that Jimmy is a *really* great person. I was so lucky to see him in a small room at the Cinegrill in Hollywood in '99. Henry Diltz and Hal David were at the table in front of me and Brian Wilson and his wife were at the table next to me! Jimmy was so awed like a fan that Brian was there and they all chatted after the show. I am certainly no celeb but he was also very warm and kind to me, too! I really think Jimmy became even greater as he got older. When he sings those old songs live it just viscerally hits you right in the heart and takes your breath away. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 08:19:52 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: RE: Jimmy Webb and Joni Hey, Kakki, Someone, I think it was Gerry Notaro, mentioned you were another big fan of Jimmy Webb's. Thanks for the great post! Hugs, Walt "Little" Breen Well, I'm learning it's peaceful With a good dog and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century We're not gonna fix that up Too easy (Joni Mitchell, "Electricity", 1972) Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my website: www.learninginsights.info From: kbhla@fastmail.fm To: littlebreen@live.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Jimmy Webb and Joni Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 23:19:39 -0700 Hi Walt, It's so great to hear that you are re-discovering Jimmy Webb. I know we have some other fans here - ChuckE and there were some former members of the list from the U.K. who were into him and sent me some brilliant live concert recordings long ago. I always loved Jimmy's songs but developed a deeper appreciation for him as I matured. Two loves of my life considered him their "Joni" plus my Edwardian era father thought Webb, McCartney and Lennon were some of the greatest composers of the 20th century. One boyfriend knew Jimmy a bit back in the day and used to relate a lot of stories about the background of the songs - some of which I think I posted here long ago but the memory is dimmer now. Initially, I didn't much take to the song P.F. Sloan either, but once I heard the back story, I appreciated it more! Campo de Encino was also the name of his house/compound in Encino, CA. The song Adios is a tribute to Lucy's El Adobe Mexican restaurant in LA across from Paramount Studios - recorded by both Linda Ronstadt and Jimmy. Lucy fed many of the now famous singer songwriters in LA for free back in the day. When her restaurant later went through rough times, those same artists all held a fundraiser to help her out. The restaurant is still operating on Melrose Ave. now. Jimmy was married to one of Barry Sullivan's (old Hollywood actor) daughters for many years and they had many children together. Sometime in the late 90s she separated from him and, by his own account, he was a complete mess. I was at one of his small shows in '99 where he spoke of this upheaval in his life and he said that Carly Simon came to his rescue and literally pulled him off the floor, took him to stay at her place and got him back on his feet. (Thank you, Carly!) He has done so well since then. He has often spoken of Joni as the epitome of singer-songwriters. For a great read, you might want to check out "Tunesmith," his book on his life and songwriting. I have read a deailed account of his Joni backstory of the album "Letters" - don't have all the details ready at hand but below is some background from the album liner notes. "Letters was a more sedate, piano-oriented album than its predecessors, and soaked in the influence of Webb's peer and eventual close friend Joni Mitchell. "I was tremendously influenced by Joni Mitchell," he admitted to Peter Doggett of Record Collector in 1994. "She was a good friend, and I was fortunate enough to be around her when she was working on For the Roses and Court and Spark. We were just part of each other's lives for a while. I definitely envied that part of her work -- the idea that this is just a conversation you're listening in on. It can still be poetry, but not self-conscious or forced poetry. I got extremely under her spell as a writer - -- I still am. I used to go to the studio and listen to her record, sit quietly in the back of the control room. After the Beatles, Joni was the next big blip on my radar screen, in terms of, 'Hey, pay attention: this girl is doing something a little bit different.'" Mitchell's longtime engineer Henry Lewy also did some engineering work for Letters as well. Joni's influence is most apparent on one of the record's stronger cuts, "Simile," inspired by an incident at the Los Angeles Troubadour club. Webb had sent her roses and a letter after seeing her perform there early in her career, but the letter wasn't found by Mitchell until a few years later, as alluded to in the song's opening verse. More indirectly, several other tracks had a similar intimate, piano-based ambience, such as "Hurt Me Well," "Catharsis," "Piano," and "When Can Brown Begin," the last of which might have had a hint of Brian Wilson as well." Walt, I hope someday you might get the chance to see him perform. It is really the experience of a lifetime. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:23:20 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Tunings for Woodstock I'm carving out sometime in the near future to upload about 5 tabs of old songs I've finished plus work on a tab for this tune. Since this is one that has been requested several times over the last month I hope I can get it together soon!! Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Paul Castle Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:14 AM To: bworkman@woh.rr.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Tunings for Woodstock Brian wrote > Just finished watching the DVD of the TNT Joni tribute. To the guitar players: any idea what tuning > Richard Thompson is in for his rendition of Woodstock. Have always loved it, and > would like to try playing it. Hi Brian - back in April Sue McNamara wrote to the list saying that she'd had a request to tab this for the JM database and I wrote: > http://youtu.be/h54rRq2SAv0 > I've no idea how you're going to tab up all > his fiddly-bits but.... > I reckon he's tuned D75525 - ie DADGAD > - capo 2 and the I chord is 000200 alternating > between (and bending the 3 of) 000030 - and > the IV chord is mainly 550000 or 550030 - with > 550300 thrown in occasionally - ending with - > 000200 - -550000 - - - -x3200x - - - - - - > and we've got to get ourselves back to the > 000200 --330000 - 55000 - 000200 > gar - - - - ar - - - - ar - - - - den Hope this helps very best PaulC NW Bonnie Raitt & Richard Thompson - Dimming of The Day http://youtu.be/1o8M74ufF4Q ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:27:29 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Richard Thompson (NJC) Seeing mention of RT in the last digest - I managed to score tickets for his show Friday at McCabe's Guitar Shop in Santa Monica. Really looking forward to seeing him play in such a small room. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:15:41 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Simile (w/Joni) Oh, what a treat to hear a "new" song for the very first time and LOVE it immediately! Thanks, Paul, for recommending that one. Kenny B Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:06:02 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: The Joni/Jimmy Connection! You can listen to 'Simile' (with Joni on backing vocals) @ http://blip.fm/~14shg7 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:23:38 -0400 From: Ken Subject: more on Jimmy Webb BTW, anyone interested in hearing two interviews/live performances with Jimmy Webb, on WFUV, from 2007) can check the Audio Archives at WFUV.org. (I think a good link would be http://wfuv.streamguys.us/cgi-bin/search_wfuv.cgi) Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:39:43 +0000 From: Kelly Loughran Subject: Helped me, here\'s the proof. I can help you in.... http://www.igiarratano.com/index_order8288.htm After purchase, you will return 15%. After ordering, send us an email: racmeneses@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:59:37 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: Re: Richard Thompson (NJC) Steve wrote: > Seeing mention of RT in the last digest - I managed to score tickets > for his show Friday at McCabe's Guitar Shop in Santa Monica. Really > looking forward to seeing him play in such a small room. I have fond memories of McCabe's. I fell in love there! (with a small-bodied Santa Cruz H - she was way out of my league, mind - but I know who I'm going after when I win the lottery!) Have a great night, Steve & Michele - wish I could be with you. very best PaulC NP A demo version of 'Next Time Around' from next month's reissue of Sandy Denny's 'Northstar Grassman & The Ravens' - http://bit.ly/iuGD0z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:28:00 +0000 From: Kelly Loughran Subject: Everything works, I recommend to you. I want to show you http://kleenezeopportunity.net/page_828_link.htm After purchase, you will return 15%. After purchase, please contact us: racmeneses@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:52:23 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Joni/Jimmy (NJC) Funny the talk has turned to Jimmy Webb. Being an "Idol" watcher and seeing now one of the finalists, Scotty (who my son happens to be a double for!), I keep wanting to write to him and say 'you need to do a great song like "Witchita Lineman"' I had to look up who wrote it and sure enough, Jimmy Webb. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:50:53 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: spam from smoe Is anyone else receiving spam-like emails via smoe with suspicious looking links in the text? I have been getting them (1 or 2) on an almost daily basis of late. I'm intentionally leaving the njc tag off of this email because I want everyone to see it. I'm also cc'ing our list administrator (Hi Les) as I'm a bit concerned about this. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:57:54 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: spam from smoe Yes, I have been also. Jerry On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Mark wrote: > Is anyone else receiving spam-like emails via smoe with suspicious looking > links in the text? > > I have been getting them (1 or 2) on an almost daily basis of late. > > I'm intentionally leaving the njc tag off of this email because I want > everyone to see it. I'm also cc'ing our list administrator (Hi Les) as I'm > a bit concerned about this. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:04:08 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: spam from smoe got some last week not this week. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Mark wrote: > Is anyone else receiving spam-like emails via smoe with suspicious looking > links in the text? > > I have been getting them (1 or 2) on an almost daily basis of late. > > I'm intentionally leaving the njc tag off of this email because I want > everyone to see it. I'm also cc'ing our list administrator (Hi Les) as I'm > a bit concerned about this. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:57:10 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2011 #152 This Youtube is the most moving one of Amelia I've heard in many a moon. I will keep playing this. I'd forgotten how mature, how powerful her "Burbank" live performance was of this song. Such a beautiful song. The old photos only enhanced it. Kudos to whoever put it together. It was sublime. Some pictures ( & not many get by me ) I had never seen before. Thank you. Date : Tue, 24 May 2011 03:00:10 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #152 > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 24 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 152 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: joni at the troubadour monday night http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/05/live-review-james-blake-at-the-troubadour.html enjoy...just snagged this from Julius ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: james blake case of you Just found James Blake's version of Case of You... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri6bd4G-Aig gotta love that youtube Mags ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:35:41 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: spam from smoe Yep, me too. This is why (re recent discussions on the NJC list) there are developers/code writers who offer their anti-spyware/anti-malware programs for FREE so everyone can protect their PCs. If everyone installed and ran these programs regularly, the spammers would soon find themselves just about starved out, and they'd have to find other ways to scam people. It's really NOT that difficult a problem to deal with--it just takes learning a little and paying attention. Terra On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Mark wrote: > Is anyone else receiving spam-like emails via smoe with suspicious looking > links in the text? > > I have been getting them (1 or 2) on an almost daily basis of late. > > I'm intentionally leaving the njc tag off of this email because I want > everyone to see it. I'm also cc'ing our list administrator (Hi Les) as I'm > a bit concerned about this. > > Mark in Seattle - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 00:46:31 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: well written blog post from Court & Spark Hi Mary, Welcome to the List! I'm glad you liked the blog post--and yes, you quoted the best line from it. ---I really enjoyed reading everyone's remembrances of hearing Hejira for the first time, but yours was perhaps most similar to mine. I was soon to be on the road for several years, too (except it would be with five other musicians and a soundman traveling in a big box truck around a five-state area-- originating in LaCrosse.) I took solo cross-country trips (actually moves) later on with Hejira as part of the soundtrack. Now I live a couple of miles from Lake Mendota. Did you ever come back to Wisconsin? ;-) Terra On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mary Morris wrote: > re: > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 17:01:04 -0500 > From: T Peckham > Subject: well-written blog post on Court & Spark > > Just stumbled across this--a lot of us can relate. ;-) > Terra > > > http://magnoliathoughts.com/2011/05/19/court-and-spark/ > > Thank you Terra, for this link. I especially like the writing in the > beginning, it was beautifully put : "...the wisdom I ve been able to pull > from her words is carved into my bones and written on the inside of my > skin. > " > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #153 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------