From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #123 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 27 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 123 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Urge for Going [] NJC Grethe Waitz [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Gerald] Re: Re: Happy Easter njc [Anita G ] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Anita ] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Lori F] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Gerald] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Gerald] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Cathe] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Gerald] Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? [Cathe] RIP Phoebe Snow NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC [Bob Muller ] Sail on Phoebe (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC ["Mark" ] Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:20:51 -0700 From: Subject: Urge for Going The first time I listened to Hits and Misses and heard Joni sing UFG, I got absolute chills because I remembered that beautiful song from somewhere way back and it wasn't Joni the first time I heard it. (I had more than a few FTRs but never the 45 single with the B side) I had no idea Joni had written it until seeing it on H&M. It was such a mystery until I later learned about Tom Rush's cover, which is what I must have heard back in the mists. Thanks for the background information, Richard. Kakki Oh and by the way, I have never really followed AI (never had the time) but I am totally enjoying all the updates here and you might just get another fan hooked in soon! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:08:34 +0200 From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: NJC Grethe Waitz One of the biggest in norwegian sport history passed away two weeks ago. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/sports/24waitz.html?_r=2&src=tptw Look at this marvelous article from the New York Times Love Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:10:09 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? Great predictions, Bob. But I think Jacob is going to sing Natural Woman :-) Jerry On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Oh, and I also have to add that "A Case Of You" would surely show up on the > songlist. Diana Krall made it a modern-day standard, and covers of it have > sprung up like wildflowers. > > And I have to say that "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio" would probably NOT be > selected. It has not kept up in terms of having legs as a cover song. But > someone like Lauren or Scotty might pick up on it as a country number. > > Looking ahead to this week (and since we're still on the NJC wavelength), > any > guesses as to who will do what Carole songs? > > Mine: > > Haley - I Feel The Earth Move > Scotty - You've Got A Friend > Jacob - Way Over Yonder > James - Locomotion (ala Grand Funk) > Casey - Smackwater Jack > Lauren - It's Too Late > > Bob > > NP: RLJ, "We Belong Together" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:33:15 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Re: Happy Easter njc > Anita, I am shocked. I can't believe you didn't say "the last song on Wild > Things Run Fast, of course.". > > Bob If ONLY I had the gift of prophecy..... Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:39:22 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? On 26 April 2011 14:10, Gerald Notaro wrote: > Great predictions, Bob. But I think Jacob is going to sing Natural Woman :-) > > Jerry > > Miaowwww, Jerry :~)) To be fair, he'd do a sensational job and I would just LOVE it, but I don't think American would be greatly enamoured. But what do I know sitting here 50 miles north of London? Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:45:35 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? > Great predictions, Bob. But I think Jacob is going to sing Natural Woman :-) Funny! I had to wonder, week before last, when the other contestants were saying that Jacob is a "diva," if that wasn't a way to "out" him to the rest of America (as if we don't already know). Because, after all, "real" Americans do not like for gay boys to win things. Jacob probably IS a diva (he should sing in drag, because he would be so much more believable), but I still found it a little odd that all the other contestants made such a point of saying so. That said, Jacob can sing his face off, but he gets on my nerves. Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:50:28 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? He would tear it up, that is for sure. But you're right, America's not ready for THAT performance. Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Anita G wrote: > On 26 April 2011 14:10, Gerald Notaro wrote: > > Great predictions, Bob. But I think Jacob is going to sing Natural Woman > :-) > > > > Jerry > > > > > Miaowwww, Jerry :~)) > > To be fair, he'd do a sensational job and I would just LOVE it, but I > don't think American would be greatly enamoured. But what do I know > sitting here 50 miles north of London? > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:03:20 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? Diva behavior can be genderless. Anyone who needs to be the center of attention, and is demanding, could be accused of Diva-ness. And we know there are plenty of men like that! Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Lori Fye wrote: > > Great predictions, Bob. But I think Jacob is going to sing Natural Woman > :-) > > Funny! > > I had to wonder, week before last, when the other contestants were saying > that Jacob is a "diva," if that wasn't a way to "out" him to the rest of > America (as if we don't already know). Because, after all, "real" > Americans > do not like for gay boys to win things. Jacob probably IS a diva (he > should > sing in drag, because he would be so much more believable), but I still > found it a little odd that all the other contestants made such a point of > saying so. > > That said, Jacob can sing his face off, but he gets on my nerves. > > Lori > Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Lori Fye > To: Joni List > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 11:45:35 AM > Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? > > That said, Jacob can sing his face off, but he gets on my nerves. > That's how I feel about him. Part of me believes I really *should* like him, because he *can* sing, and yet he bugs the crap out of me. And sometimes I think he has the sweetest face ever and then he goes and says something really stupid (like the thing about America looking at itself in the mirror). Isn't it weird when you realize that someone really does have talent, but it ain't your cuppa tea? Sometimes I wish things really were more black and white! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:54:50 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? Our very own Joni does the same thing, sometimes. She is incredibly talented, and yet more than questionable statements have slipped through those lips. Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Lori Fye > > To: Joni List > > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 11:45:35 AM > > Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell > night? > > > > > That said, Jacob can sing his face off, but he gets on my nerves. > > > > That's how I feel about him. Part of me believes I really *should* like > him, > because he *can* sing, and yet he bugs the crap out of me. And sometimes I > think he has the sweetest face ever and then he goes and says something > really > stupid (like the thing about America looking at itself in the mirror). > Isn't it > weird when you realize that someone really does have talent, but it ain't > your > cuppa tea? Sometimes I wish things really were more black and white! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? Very true. But I guess I was already in love with Joni's music before I heard her say any of those things, so i cut her some slack. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gerald Notaro > To: Catherine McKay > Cc: Lori Fye ; Joni List > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 1:54:50 PM > Subject: Re: NJC American Idol - what if there were a Joni Mitchell night? > > Our very own Joni does the same thing, sometimes. She is incredibly > talented, and yet more than questionable statements have slipped through > those lips. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC Such an incredible and uniques voice. She covered "A Case Of You" before it was popular to do so. I liked everything she ever did. The finest version of "At Last" I ever heard. And I know she has lots of fans here as we've had a number of threads about her. Bob NP: Julie Miller, "All My Tears" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:16:20 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC Very sad. I had not heard. Her Teach Me Tonight was a classic. Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Such an incredible and uniques voice. She covered "A Case Of You" before it > was > popular to do so. I liked everything she ever did. The finest version of > "At > Last" I ever heard. And I know she has lots of fans here as we've had a > number > of threads about her. > > Bob > > NP: Julie Miller, "All My Tears" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC And she was a big Joni fan too. I know that she did everything she could to be a part of the Carnegie Hall concert but it didn't work out. Personally I would have much rather have had her than some of the folks who did perform. Bob NP: Elizabeth & The Catapult, "Apathy" - ----- Original Message ---- From: Gerald Notaro To: Bob Muller Cc: JMDL Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 7:16:20 AM Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC Very sad. I had not heard. Her Teach Me Tonight was a classic. Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Such an incredible and uniques voice. She covered "A Case Of You" before it > was > popular to do so. I liked everything she ever did. The finest version of > "At > Last" I ever heard. And I know she has lots of fans here as we've had a > number > of threads about her. > > Bob > > NP: Julie Miller, "All My Tears" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:27:10 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Sail on Phoebe (NJC) I always loved her in the old days and she kinda got lost in the jukebox shuffle. I only have about 40,000 songs on my ipod. I DID NOT know that Sue Cameron was her manager. Love Paz Phoebe Snow, a bluesy singer, guitarist and songwriter who had a defining hit of the 1970s with Poetry Man but then largely dropped out of the spotlight to care for her disabled daughter, has died. Snow, who was nominated for best new artist at the 1975 Grammys, died on Tuesday morning in Edison, New Jersey, from complications of a brain haemorrhage she suffered in January 2010, said Rick Miramontez, her longtime friend and public relations representative. She was 58. Snow's manager, Sue Cameron, said the singer had endured bouts of blood clots, pneumonia and congestive heart failure since her stroke. "The loss of this unique and untouchable voice is incalculable," Cameron said. "Phoebe was one of the brightest, funniest and most talented singer-songwriters of all time and, more importantly, a magnificent mother to her late brain-damaged daughter, Valerie, for 31 years. Phoebe felt that was her greatest accomplishment." Known as a folk guitarist who made forays into jazz and blues, Snow put her stamp on soul classics such as Shakey Ground, Love Makes a Woman and Mercy, Mercy Mercy on over a half dozen albums. Not long after Snow's Poetry Man reached the top five on the pop singles chart in 1975, her daughter, Valerie Rose, was born with severe brain damage, and Snow decided to look after her at home rather than place her in care. "She was the only thing that was holding me together," she told the San Francisco Chronicle in 2008. "My life was her, completely about her, from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to bed at night." Valerie, who had been born with hydrocephalus, a buildup of fluid in the brain cavity that inhibits brain development, was not expected to live more than a few years. She died in 2007,aged 31. Over the years, Snow found time to sing on Paul Simon's song Gone at Last and tour with him, as well as perform at the Woodstock 25th anniversary festival in 1994, as part of a soul act that included Thelma Houston, Mavis Staples and CeCe Peniston. Snow was also recruited by Steely Dan's Donald Fagen to participate in the New York Rock and Soul Revue, which took her, Charles Brown, Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs and others on tour and into New York's Beacon theatre to record a live album in 1991. "Occasionally I put an album out, but I didn't like to tour, and they didn't get a lot of label support," she told the Chronicle. "But you know what? It didn't really matter because I got to stay home more with Valerie, and that time was precious." She was born Phoebe Ann Laub to white Jewish parents in New York in 1950, and raised in Teaneck, New Jersey. Though many assumed she was black, Snow never claimed African-American ancestry. She changed her name after seeing Phoebe Snow, an advertising character for a railroad, emblazoned on trains that passed through her hometown. Snow left college after two years to perform in amateur nights at Greenwich Village folk clubs. Her first record, Phoebe Snow, came out in 1974, and showed off her songwriting chops on a selection of tunes that spanned blues, jazz and folk. Hit-bound Poetry Man took the record to No4 on the album charts, but her success was uneasy. "There are turning points in everyone's life where you decide if you're going to sink or swim. My insecurity wasn't serving me well at all. It was really a stumbling block," she told Associated Press in 1989. Rumours abounded that Jackson Browne was Poetry Man. "No, no. It's somebody you wouldn't know. People just thought Poetry Man was Browne because he was the first act I toured with," Snow told USA Today in 1989. After 1976's gold-selling Second Childhood, Snow's subsequent albums found smaller audiences. Through the 1980s and into the 1990s, Snow sang commercial jingles for companies including Michelob, Hallmark and AT&T and performed live here and there. Inexperienced in the music business, she broke a number of contracts with record companies and others, and found herself embroiled in a number of lawsuits and severe financial problems. Snow's husband, musician Phil Kearns, left her while Valerie was still a baby. She sang the theme for NBC's A Different World and the jingle Celebrate the Moments of Your Life for General Foods International Coffees. She also sang at radio host Howard Stern's wedding to Beth Ostrosky in 2008 and for Bill Clinton, who asked her to perform at Camp David during his presidency. In 2003, she released the CD Natural Wonder, her first album of original material in 14 years. Her other albums include 1989's Something Real, and 1981's Rock Away. In 2008, she released a live album, and in 2001 a best-of CD. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:11:36 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC After the hype that surrounded 'Poetry Man' and her first 2 albums she never seemed to get the recognition she deserved. She was an incredible singer. I remember her singing the 'Shoop-Shoop Song (It's in His Kiss)' with Linda Rondstadt on SNL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFSiVsYJ8p8 They really bring out the soul sistah in each other. Makes me smile and tap my toes but get a little tear-eyed as well. One of SNL's great musical moments, imo. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Notaro Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:16 PM To: Bob Muller Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC Very sad. I had not heard. Her Teach Me Tonight was a classic. Jerry On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Such an incredible and uniques voice. She covered "A Case Of You" before > it > was > popular to do so. I liked everything she ever did. The finest version of > "At > Last" I ever heard. And I know she has lots of fans here as we've had a > number > of threads about her. > > Bob > > NP: Julie Miller, "All My Tears" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:22:11 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC And just as stellar in a very different way. From the same SNL, The Roche's 'The Married Men': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov3OCrNiZ_4&feature=related The blend of those 2 fabulous voices is a thing of beauty. Unrepeatable now. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:56 PM To: JMDL Subject: RIP Phoebe Snow NJC Such an incredible and uniques voice. She covered "A Case Of You" before it was popular to do so. I liked everything she ever did. The finest version of "At Last" I ever heard. And I know she has lots of fans here as we've had a number of threads about her. Bob NP: Julie Miller, "All My Tears" ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #123 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------