From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #115 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 19 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 115 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njC computer virus software ? [Lieve Reckers ] Re: njC computer virus software ? [Lieve Reckers ] Re: njC computer virus software ? [Dave Blackburn ] Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: k.d. lang mentions Joni [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: njC computer virus software ? [Bob Muller ] Hejira SHM-My thoughts [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Hejira SHM-My thoughts [Gerald Notaro ] Re: njC computer virus software ? ["ron g" ] Re: Re: njC computer virus software ? [Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Hi Michael, I don't think I can give you much advice, but this message is more to say I have similar problems, so maybe this can help to broaden your question and solicit more advice. I too have a PC that regularly slows down and freezes (messages like "delivery manager not responding" will come up) and all I can do is reboot and then usually things are a bit better again. I am told regularly by my sons that I should go back to factory settings and get rid of everything else I have ever installed on my computer, but that would make me lose so many programs that I know I need (but can't remember when and how!) that it would cause too many problems. I used to have Norton or McAffee (can't remember which) but for the last few years I've had free programmes that I downloaded from the web, at the moment that is Online Armor for the firewall and Avast antivirus. They came highly recommended and should work fine, but all I can say is that I keep getting stuck or frozen, and have no alternative but to switch the damn computer off and restart. In fact, one computer expert (who came to repair my son's computer!) I spoke with told me that this is typical for Windows, and that I should seriously consider alternatives to Microsoft. But again, that's more than I can get my head around to, so I just struggle on... I hope this may just put some context to your problems and possible solutions. In any case, I hope you find a solution and if that turns out to be of help to me and others too, then so much the better! Lieve in London PS I know one of the worst problem causes is if you happen to have 2 antivirus systems installed, so if you download or buy a new one, make sure the free one provided by your service provider is disabled! - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 1:01:29 Subject: njC computer virus software ? I know this has been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up again, but I have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service with the free protection software offered by my service provider, stalled computer, etc, etc. I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package from Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services downloadable from the web ? If the latter is the case, which would you recommend ? Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:10:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Hi Ya'll, You might consider getting an Apple computer. Apples use a UNIX operating system that doesn't get PC viruses. They are very fast and very user friendly. You don't have to worry about installing and waiting for anti-virus software, spy ware, firewalls, etc. to run when you turn on your computer. Apples work immediately. I have both Apples and PCs since a lot of my work has to be done via computer. I use my Apple computers for anything online. I use my PCs for working offline with programs that haven't been written for Apples yet. When I'm ready to send something over the Internet, I use my flash drive to take it from the PC to the Apple for emailing. This way my PCs stay free from viruses... I only very rarely use them online. I have AOL's anti-viral programs for my PCs that cost $4.99 per month, and I never have to worry about updating anti-viral software myself because it is done automatically by AOL. Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Lieve Reckers To: Michael quebec ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:41:41 AM Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Hi Michael, I don't think I can give you much advice, but this message is more to say I have similar problems, so maybe this can help to broaden your question and solicit more advice. I too have a PC that regularly slows down and freezes (messages like "delivery manager not responding" will come up) and all I can do is reboot and then usually things are a bit better again. I am told regularly by my sons that I should go back to factory settings and get rid of everything else I have ever installed on my computer, but that would make me lose so many programs that I know I need (but can't remember when and how!) that it would cause too many problems. I used to have Norton or McAffee (can't remember which) but for the last few years I've had free programmes that I downloaded from the web, at the moment that is Online Armor for the firewall and Avast antivirus. They came highly recommended and should work fine, but all I can say is that I keep getting stuck or frozen, and have no alternative but to switch the damn computer off and restart. In fact, one computer expert (who came to repair my son's computer!) I spoke with told me that this is typical for Windows, and that I should seriously consider alternatives to Microsoft. But again, that's more than I can get my head around to, so I just struggle on... I hope this may just put some context to your problems and possible solutions. In any case, I hope you find a solution and if that turns out to be of help to me and others too, then so much the better! Lieve in London PS I know one of the worst problem causes is if you happen to have 2 antivirus systems installed, so if you download or buy a new one, make sure the free one provided by your service provider is disabled! - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 1:01:29 Subject: njC computer virus software ? I know this has been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up again, but I have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service with the free protection software offered by my service provider, stalled computer, etc, etc. I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package from Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services downloadable from the web ? If the latter is the case, which would you recommend ? Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:43:48 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Thanks Laura. I completely believe that this is a good set-up and works for you, but it is just too drastic a step for me! (Not only would I have to get rid of my computer etc, but I would also have to unlearn everything about using computers that I have got used to in the last 10+ years). Somehow there MUST be a solution for all PC/Windows users - or not???? Lieve ________________________________ From: Lc Stanley To: Lieve Reckers ; Michael quebec ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 13:10:09 Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Hi Ya'll, You might consider getting an Apple computer. Apples use a UNIX operating system that doesn't get PC viruses. They are very fast and very user friendly. You don't have to worry about installing and waiting for anti-virus software, spy ware, firewalls, etc. to run when you turn on your computer. Apples work immediately. I have both Apples and PCs since a lot of my work has to be done via computer. I use my Apple computers for anything online. I use my PCs for working offline with programs that haven't been written for Apples yet. When I'm ready to send something over the Internet, I use my flash drive to take it from the PC to the Apple for emailing. This way my PCs stay free from viruses... I only very rarely use them online. I have AOL's anti-viral programs for my PCs that cost $4.99 per month, and I never have to worry about updating anti-viral software myself because it is done automatically by AOL. Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Lieve Reckers To: Michael quebec ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:41:41 AM Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Hi Michael, I don't think I can give you much advice, but this message is more to say I have similar problems, so maybe this can help to broaden your question and solicit more advice. I too have a PC that regularly slows down and freezes (messages like "delivery manager not responding" will come up) and all I can do is reboot and then usually things are a bit better again. I am told regularly by my sons that I should go back to factory settings and get rid of everything else I have ever installed on my computer, but that would make me lose so many programs that I know I need (but can't remember when and how!) that it would cause too many problems. I used to have Norton or McAffee (can't remember which) but for the last few years I've had free programmes that I downloaded from the web, at the moment that is Online Armor for the firewall and Avast antivirus. They came highly recommended and should work fine, but all I can say is that I keep getting stuck or frozen, and have no alternative but to switch the damn computer off and restart. In fact, one computer expert (who came to repair my son's computer!) I spoke with told me that this is typical for Windows, and that I should seriously consider alternatives to Microsoft. But again, that's more than I can get my head around to, so I just struggle on... I hope this may just put some context to your problems and possible solutions. In any case, I hope you find a solution and if that turns out to be of help to me and others too, then so much the better! Lieve in London PS I know one of the worst problem causes is if you happen to have 2 antivirus systems installed, so if you download or buy a new one, make sure the free one provided by your service provider is disabled! - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 1:01:29 Subject: njC computer virus software ? I know this has been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up again, but I have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service with the free protection software offered by my service provider, stalled computer, etc, etc. I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package from Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services downloadable from the web ? If the latter is the case, which would you recommend ? Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:45:40 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: k.d. lang mentions Joni Hey Jimmie - I am a big K.D. Lang fan as well. For those who have never heard K.D.'s cover of Jericho - the link is below. Its definitely one of my favorite Joni covers and I think it exceeds the original version. Happy Monday.......Stewart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1y46-M7Uk - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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(Not only would I have to > get > rid of my computer etc, but I would also have to unlearn everything about > using > computers that I have got used to in the last 10+ years). Somehow > there MUST be > a solution for all PC/Windows users - or not???? > Lieve > ________________________________ > From: Lc Stanley > To: Lieve Reckers ; Michael quebec > ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 13:10:09 > Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? > > > Hi Ya'll, > > You might consider > getting an Apple computer. Apples use a UNIX operating > system that doesn't > get PC viruses. They are very fast and very user friendly. > You don't have > to worry about installing and waiting for anti-virus software, > spy ware, > firewalls, etc. to run when you turn on your computer. Apples work > immediately. > > I have both Apples and PCs since a lot of my work has to be > done via computer. > I use my Apple computers for anything online. I use my > PCs for working offline > with programs that haven't been written for Apples > yet. When I'm ready to send > something over the Internet, I use my flash > drive to take it from the PC to the > Apple for emailing. This way my PCs stay > free from viruses... I only very > rarely use them online. I have AOL's > anti-viral programs for my PCs that cost > $4.99 per month, and I never have to > worry about updating anti-viral software > myself because it is done > automatically by AOL. > > Love, > Laura > > > ________________________________ > From: > Lieve Reckers > To: Michael quebec > ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:41:41 > AM > Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? > > Hi Michael, > I don't think I can > give you much advice, but this message is more to say I have > > similar > problems, so maybe this can help to broaden your question and solicit > more > advice. > I too have a PC that regularly slows down and freezes (messages like > "delivery > manager not responding" will come up) and all I can do is reboot > and then > usually things are a bit better again. I am told regularly by my > sons that I > should go back to factory settings and get rid of everything else > I have ever > installed on my computer, but that would make me lose so many > programs that I > know I need (but can't remember when and how!) that it would > cause too many > problems. > I used to have Norton or McAffee (can't remember > which) but for the last few > years I've had free programmes that I downloaded > from the web, at the moment > that is Online Armor for the firewall and Avast > antivirus. They came highly > recommended and should work fine, but all I can > say is that I keep getting stuck > > or frozen, and have no alternative but to > switch the damn computer off and > restart. > > In fact, one computer expert (who > came to repair my son's computer!) I spoke > with told me that this is typical > for Windows, and that I should seriously > consider alternatives to Microsoft. > But again, that's more than I can get my > head around to, so I just struggle > on... > > I hope this may just put some context to your problems and possible > solutions. > In any case, I hope you find a solution and if that turns out to > be of help to > me and others too, then so much the better! > Lieve in London > > PS > I know one of the worst problem causes is if you happen to have 2 antivirus > systems installed, so if you download or buy a new one, make sure the free > one > provided by your service provider is disabled! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Michael quebec > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, > 18 April, 2011 1:01:29 > Subject: njC computer virus software ? > > I know this has > been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up > again, but I > have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service > with the free > protection software offered by my service provider, stalled > computer, etc, > etc. > > I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package > from > Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services > downloadable from the web ? > > If the latter is the case, which would you > recommend ? > > Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, > semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:24:15 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Full agreement here. Cue Bob Muller's anti-Apple rant... ;-) Dave On Apr 18, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > Lieve, > > Laura's suggestion is a good one. You wouldn't have to unlearn much. It > would be like going from a Yugo to a Mercedes. You know how to drive, it > just easier. Windows from the beginning was a poor imitation of the > Macintosh operating system, and Vista was an even poorer imitation. Mac's > are so intuitive you will be on the autobahn in minutes! > > Jerry > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Lieve Reckers wrote: > >> Thanks Laura. I completely believe that this is a good set-up and works >> for >> you, but it is just too drastic a step for me! (Not only would I have to >> get >> rid of my computer etc, but I would also have to unlearn everything about >> using >> computers that I have got used to in the last 10+ years). Somehow >> there MUST be >> a solution for all PC/Windows users - or not???? >> Lieve >> ________________________________ >> From: Lc Stanley >> To: Lieve Reckers ; Michael quebec >> ; joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 13:10:09 >> Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? >> >> >> Hi Ya'll, >> >> You might consider >> getting an Apple computer. Apples use a UNIX operating >> system that doesn't >> get PC viruses. They are very fast and very user friendly. >> You don't have >> to worry about installing and waiting for anti-virus software, >> spy ware, >> firewalls, etc. to run when you turn on your computer. Apples work >> immediately. >> >> I have both Apples and PCs since a lot of my work has to be >> done via computer. >> I use my Apple computers for anything online. I use my >> PCs for working offline >> with programs that haven't been written for Apples >> yet. When I'm ready to send >> something over the Internet, I use my flash >> drive to take it from the PC to the >> Apple for emailing. This way my PCs stay >> free from viruses... I only very >> rarely use them online. I have AOL's >> anti-viral programs for my PCs that cost >> $4.99 per month, and I never have to >> worry about updating anti-viral software >> myself because it is done >> automatically by AOL. >> >> Love, >> Laura >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: >> Lieve Reckers >> To: Michael quebec >> ; joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 3:41:41 >> AM >> Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? >> >> Hi Michael, >> I don't think I can >> give you much advice, but this message is more to say I have >> >> similar >> problems, so maybe this can help to broaden your question and solicit >> more >> advice. >> I too have a PC that regularly slows down and freezes (messages like >> "delivery >> manager not responding" will come up) and all I can do is reboot >> and then >> usually things are a bit better again. I am told regularly by my >> sons that I >> should go back to factory settings and get rid of everything else >> I have ever >> installed on my computer, but that would make me lose so many >> programs that I >> know I need (but can't remember when and how!) that it would >> cause too many >> problems. >> I used to have Norton or McAffee (can't remember >> which) but for the last few >> years I've had free programmes that I downloaded >> from the web, at the moment >> that is Online Armor for the firewall and Avast >> antivirus. They came highly >> recommended and should work fine, but all I can >> say is that I keep getting stuck >> >> or frozen, and have no alternative but to >> switch the damn computer off and >> restart. >> >> In fact, one computer expert (who >> came to repair my son's computer!) I spoke >> with told me that this is typical >> for Windows, and that I should seriously >> consider alternatives to Microsoft. >> But again, that's more than I can get my >> head around to, so I just struggle >> on... >> >> I hope this may just put some context to your problems and possible >> solutions. >> In any case, I hope you find a solution and if that turns out to >> be of help to >> me and others too, then so much the better! >> Lieve in London >> >> PS >> I know one of the worst problem causes is if you happen to have 2 antivirus >> systems installed, so if you download or buy a new one, make sure the free >> one >> provided by your service provider is disabled! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Michael quebec >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Mon, >> 18 April, 2011 1:01:29 >> Subject: njC computer virus software ? >> >> I know this has >> been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up >> again, but I >> have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service >> with the free >> protection software offered by my service provider, stalled >> computer, etc, >> etc. >> >> I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package >> from >> Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services >> downloadable from the web ? >> >> If the latter is the case, which would you >> recommend ? >> >> Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, >> semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:34:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? I went from PC to Mac a few years ago and didn't have any major adjustment issues. The only thing is that the document and spreadsheet programs are different and, if you try to open a document from Pages, which is Apple's document software, in an MS environment, it will be garbled, but you are able to save documents in Apple's "Pages" program as Word documents, and there is Windows documents software for Macs too, so it's not a big issue. The occasional slowness I get using my computer relates to my ISP and not to the computer. Not that you should immediately rush out and buy a Mac if your PC is newer, but something to consider for next time. I have not once regretted my decision to switch and don't have any problems adjusting between my workplace environment (PC) to my home one (Mac.) As well, both my kids have Mac laptops and are very happy with them. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gerald Notaro > To: Lieve Reckers > Cc: Lc Stanley ; Michael quebec >; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 10:15:58 AM > Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? > > Lieve, > > Laura's suggestion is a good one. You wouldn't have to unlearn much. It > would be like going from a Yugo to a Mercedes. You know how to drive, it > just easier. Windows from the beginning was a poor imitation of the > Macintosh operating system, and Vista was an even poorer imitation. Mac's > are so intuitive you will be on the autobahn in minutes! > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:33:26 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Gosh, so many convincing siren voices... But does that really mean there is no hope for the majority of people who are all using PCs? (Bob Muller? Do speak up please!) Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Catherine McKay To: Gerald Notaro ; Lieve Reckers Cc: Lc Stanley ; Michael quebec ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 15:34:24 Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? I went from PC to Mac a few years ago and didn't have any major adjustment issues. The only thing is that the document and spreadsheet programs are different and, if you try to open a document from Pages, which is Apple's document software, in an MS environment, it will be garbled, but you are able to save documents in Apple's "Pages" program as Word documents, and there is Windows documents software for Macs too, so it's not a big issue. The occasional slowness I get using my computer relates to my ISP and not to the computer. Not that you should immediately rush out and buy a Mac if your PC is newer, but something to consider for next time. I have not once regretted my decision to switch and don't have any problems adjusting between my workplace environment (PC) to my home one (Mac.) As well, both my kids have Mac laptops and are very happy with them. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gerald Notaro > To: Lieve Reckers > Cc: Lc Stanley ; Michael quebec >; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 10:15:58 AM > Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? > > Lieve, > > Laura's suggestion is a good one. You wouldn't have to unlearn much. It > would be like going from a Yugo to a Mercedes. You know how to drive, it > just easier. Windows from the beginning was a poor imitation of the > Macintosh operating system, and Vista was an even poorer imitation. Mac's > are so intuitive you will be on the autobahn in minutes! > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:04:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Carter Subject: Joni mention on the 11pm news here in DC All, Last night on the evening news broadcast there was a story about a small community garden on land owned by the Masons in NW DC. The folks who garden there often give the extra produce and flowers to local food banks. Well the Masons are in talks to expand their building and take back the vacant lot for that expansion. meaning the community garden will be gone. A couple of "farmers" on the land remarked to the news reporter that "it seems like all they (the owners/Masons) want want to do is pave paradise and put up a parking lot." NP....James Taylor....Going to Carolina ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? as I wrote to Michael off list, I have been using a PC for as long as I can remember. I d/l the AVG free software (antivirus) and it works brilliantly. I have not had any problems at all. hope that helps you, Lieve Mags - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:20:39 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC Oh sweet Patti, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the email that David wrote to you back in 2007. Mingus would have approved of the service, even though it was held in a church. This church is a landmark here in town. Very small in a beautiful neighborhood. He would have loved the music too. When the service started, "A Case of You" was playing with slides of Mingus showing on the screen. Those who spoke did a great job of telling old stories. His little nieces and nephews sang a sweet little song in honor of their Uncle David. Then "The Circle Game" was played with more slides of David. My favorite part was world renowned flutist Kat Epple played. She has won several awards, and we're very fortunate to have her living in the area. Both Davids were friends with her. When David approached her about playing at the service, she said definitely yes. Even though she knows who Joni Mitchell is, she had never played any of her music. I was shocked when she put together a medley of different Joni songs. It was beautiful. After more people spoke, the service closed with more slides and Joni singing "My Best To You." It was a beautiful service, evening though I cried nonstop. Jimmy In a message dated 4/16/2011 4:23:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > Dear Joniamigos and especially Jimmy Stewart: > > As I write, good people in Florida are heading over to David's memorial > service for 4 p.m.. I'm a having a little private one here in CT, and I > make > you welcome in. A round resounding for you way up here, dearest David! > > He was a man after my own heart and mind, and many others, I know. I > never > had the good fortune to meet him in person, but we had many lovely, > private > exchanges that always left me singing "love is touching souls and surely > you > touched mine" and smiling. He certainly had heart and humor and humility, > affection and respect, and a lot of passion for peace and Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:51:36 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: k.d. lang mentions Joni Thanks Stewart for sharing the link. I've heard k.d. sing Jericho before, but it was nice to see the slide show along with the song. Jimmy In a message dated 4/18/2011 9:45:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com writes: > Hey Jimmie - > > I am a big K.D. Lang fan as well. For those who have never heard K.D.'s > cover of Jericho - the link is below. Its definitely one of my favorite > Joni covers and I think it exceeds the original version. > > > Happy Monday.......Stewart > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1y46-M7Uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC Thanks, Jimmy. when I read posts like this, as well as the posts from Michael about Mark Leon's kindness to him while he was visiting Australia, I feel particularly honoured to be a part of a group such as this. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: "FMYFL@aol.com" > To: loveuconn@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 2:20:39 PM > Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC > > Oh sweet Patti, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the email that David wrote to you back > in 2007. > Mingus would have approved of the service, even though it was held in a > church. This church is a landmark here in town. Very small in a beautiful > neighborhood. He would have loved the music too. When the service started, "A > > Case of You" was playing with slides of Mingus showing on the screen. Those > who spoke did a great job of telling old stories. His little nieces and > nephews sang a sweet little song in honor of their Uncle David. Then "The >Circle > > Game" was played with more slides of David. > My favorite part was world renowned flutist Kat Epple played. She has won > several awards, and we're very fortunate to have her living in the area. Both > Davids were friends with her. When David approached her about playing at > the service, she said definitely yes. Even though she knows who Joni Mitchell > > is, she had never played any of her music. I was shocked when she put > together a medley of different Joni songs. It was beautiful. After more >people > > spoke, the service closed with more slides and Joni singing "My Best To > You." > > It was a beautiful service, evening though I cried nonstop. > > Jimmy > > In a message dated 4/16/2011 4:23:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > > > Dear Joniamigos and especially Jimmy Stewart: > > > > As I write, good people in Florida are heading over to David's memorial > > service for 4 p.m.. I'm a having a little private one here in CT, and I > > make > > you welcome in. A round resounding for you way up here, dearest David! > > > > He was a man after my own heart and mind, and many others, I know. I > > never > > had the good fortune to meet him in person, but we had many lovely, > > private > > exchanges that always left me singing "love is touching souls and surely > > you > > touched mine" and smiling. He certainly had heart and humor and humility, > > affection and respect, and a lot of passion for peace and Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:36:24 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC oh Jimmy, and listers, although silent, i have thought of David often since Jimmy's post in November. i have saved every post, each one eloquent and loving. Jimmy, i remember the first time we talked and you told me about David's courage and grace. I had read his posts and he is//was/will be definitely someone i want to meet, as each of you is. the beauty of this group is that i feel as if i do know him from what is shared here. i know he deserved staunch friends like you, ed and david. i send up my prayers, and tears, and a little laughter at the absurdity of it all, as i did with smurf, even though i never got to meet either of them. i know, i know, we're just particles of change... much much love, and my sincere condolences, lesli On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM, wrote: > Oh sweet Patti, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the email that David wrote to you back > in 2007. It was a beautiful service, evening though I cried nonstop. > > Jimmy > > > Jimmy > > In a message dated 4/16/2011 4:23:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > > > Dear Joniamigos and especially Jimmy Stewart: > > > > As I write, good people in Florida are heading over to David's memorial > > service for 4 p.m.. I'm a having a little private one here in CT, and I > > make > > you welcome in. A round resounding for you way up here, dearest David! > > > > He was a man after my own heart and mind, and many others, I know. I > > never > > had the good fortune to meet him in person, but we had many lovely, > > private > > exchanges that always left me singing "love is touching souls and surely > > you > > touched mine" and smiling. He certainly had heart and humor and > humility, > > affection and respect, and a lot of passion for peace and Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 12:52:29 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC that's what i'm trying to say. thank you, catherine. when people have shared their losses or triumphs, i've felt them too. i just never know what to say. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Thanks, Jimmy. when I read posts like this, as well as the posts from > Michael > about Mark Leon's kindness to him while he was visiting Australia, I feel > particularly honoured to be a part of a group such as this. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "FMYFL@aol.com" > > To: loveuconn@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > > Sent: Mon, April 18, 2011 2:20:39 PM > > Subject: Re: "Peace&Love" to -- and from -- David Mingus, SJC > > > > Oh sweet Patti, > > > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the email that David wrote to you > back > > in 2007. > > Mingus would have approved of the service, even though it was held in a > > church. This church is a landmark here in town. Very small in a > beautiful > > neighborhood. He would have loved the music too. When the service > started, "A > > > > Case of You" was playing with slides of Mingus showing on the screen. > Those > > who spoke did a great job of telling old stories. His little nieces and > > nephews sang a sweet little song in honor of their Uncle David. Then > "The > >Circle > > > > Game" was played with more slides of David. > > My favorite part was world renowned flutist Kat Epple played. She has > won > > several awards, and we're very fortunate to have her living in the area. > Both > > > Davids were friends with her. When David approached her about playing at > > the service, she said definitely yes. Even though she knows who Joni > Mitchell > > > > is, she had never played any of her music. I was shocked when she put > > together a medley of different Joni songs. It was beautiful. After more > >people > > > > spoke, the service closed with more slides and Joni singing "My Best To > > You." > > > > It was a beautiful service, evening though I cried nonstop. > > > > Jimmy > > > > In a message dated 4/16/2011 4:23:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > Dear Joniamigos and especially Jimmy Stewart: > > > > > > As I write, good people in Florida are heading over to David's > memorial > > > service for 4 p.m.. I'm a having a little private one here in CT, and > I > > > make > > > you welcome in. A round resounding for you way up here, dearest > David! > > > > > > He was a man after my own heart and mind, and many others, I know. I > > > never > > > had the good fortune to meet him in person, but we had many lovely, > > > private > > > exchanges that always left me singing "love is touching souls and > surely > > > you > > > touched mine" and smiling. He certainly had heart and humor and > humility, > > > affection and respect, and a lot of passion for peace and Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:42:00 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder Very kind of you, Bob. I hope we get to meet one day. Hopefully at OzFest. I'm really quite embarrassed and humbled by all this outpouring. I don't contribute to this list nearly as much as others like you, Bob. This society you speak of...are there any residuals from that? LOL. I hope you're having a nice adventure in China. Mark in Sydney PS If anyone else is planning a trip to Australia, look me up. I'm happy to show anyone around. On 18/04/2011, at 10:05 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Great post, Michael - I can relate as I've had so many of those > experiences > myself. And I want to chime in as a member of the MLT appreciation > society. As > others have said, his talents, kindness and humility are apportioned > in great > measure. He's been a great help to me in the covers world. > > Bob > > NP: Aimee Mann, "Save Me" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder In the profound words of Carl the groundskeeper (Bill Murray in Caddyshack): Oh, there'll be no money - but on your deathbed you'll receive total consciousness. So you've got that going for you, which is nice. Bob NP: Patty Griffin, "One Big Love" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? Haha - well, I have mellowed a bit. May even get one of those I-Pad thingys, time will tell. Apple is certainly innovative and have driven lots of enhancements in the world of personal computing, no denying that. I've just found them very disappointing in terms of their products. Been through three small ipods, none of which worked for very long and ALL of which were very difficult in terms of controlling content. Not to mention that everytime I plugged it in, oh your ipod doesn't work anymore because there's a new version of i-tunes, so try and update, debug, etc. Feh. And like Laura says, there are many software programs that don't run on a Mac. When it's all said and done, it's more a matter of preference than competence I believe. As for anti-virus, I used to use AVG and it worked fine. When I bought a new PC I got Norton 2010 which was a vast improvement over the previous editions because it was NOT a memory hog and it updates behind the scenes constantly. The key to any successful anti-virus is keeping it updated. I've had NO issues with it and it pretty much stops you from going to a webpage where something malicious is waiting to pounce. I had someone try and hijack my Facebook account and Norton blocked them and sent me a notice that I should change my password. Anyway, have been very pleased with it. Bob, awake when everyone else is asleep and vice versa. NP: Kate Bush, "Jig Of Life" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:36:46 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Hejira SHM-My thoughts Hi everyone, Firstly, thanks to Jerry for letting everyone on here know about the Japanese SHM remasters. I've heard the SHM remasters of Led Zeppelin's and Prince's albums and I was very pleased with what I heard, so naturally I was pretty excited about these. I only purchased Hejira even though I wanted DJRD as well, but at $28 each on these I couldn't really justify spending that much on more than one. Anyways, the packaging. It's very nicely done. It looks like a pretty faithful reproduction of the original vinyl. It has a plastic outer sleeve keeping everything clean. The case is made from cardstock, the CD sleeve is kind of a sturdy-ish magazine type paper and the booklet is regular paper. The lyrics are spread throughout the outer case (in English) in some seriously tiny type. All of this is very similar to the HDCD releases. The booklet is half Japanese, half English. The first few pages of the booklet are in Japanese and it appears to be some kind of review from this year (there's a date of 2011 at the end of it). Next are the lyrics in English and then in Japanese. The Japanese lyrics have what appears to be footnotes at the end of some songs explaining certain references (Big Apple, Boom Boom Pachyderm, Winn-Dixie, etc). I don't speak Japanese so I'm really curious to know what they say. As far as the sound quality... it's difficult to say. Joni's vocals are nice and up-front throughout, and they really soar during Refuge of the Roads. Her breathing-in on "I've got a blue motel room" at the end of BMR is noticeable and I don't recall this on the HDCD release. Percussion is noticeably more in-the-mix throughout the album. Jaco's bass seems a little cleaner in the mix and not so overdubbed. Some of Joni's guitar parts are also clearer (especially during Furry Sings The Blues and Refuge of the Roads). Black Crow, oddly enough, seems a real standout as far as this remaster. It sounds almost like it was recently recorded (I noticed that too with the Paprika Plains remix). So is it worth purchasing? While I think the job on the artwork was really well done nothing really encourages me to say "go and buy it." The HDCD release is really nicely done, despite the rather blah artwork reproduction. I'm very curious to know how the other SHM remasters stand up. If anyone else purchased them I'd love to hear your thoughts. Peace out, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:47:51 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Hejira SHM-My thoughts Just got word that my SHM-CD's of For the Roses and Hissing were shipped yesterday from Japan. Can't wait!!!! Jerry On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Mark Domyancich wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Firstly, thanks to Jerry for letting everyone on here know about the > Japanese SHM remasters. I've heard the SHM remasters of Led Zeppelin's and > Prince's albums and I was very pleased with what I heard, so naturally I > was > pretty excited about these. I only purchased Hejira even though I wanted > DJRD as well, but at $28 each on these I couldn't really justify spending > that much on more than one. > > Anyways, the packaging. It's very nicely done. It looks like a pretty > faithful reproduction of the original vinyl. It has a plastic outer sleeve > keeping everything clean. The case is made from cardstock, the CD sleeve is > kind of a sturdy-ish magazine type paper and the booklet is regular paper. > The lyrics are spread throughout the outer case (in English) in some > seriously tiny type. All of this is very similar to the HDCD releases. > > The booklet is half Japanese, half English. The first few pages of the > booklet are in Japanese and it appears to be some kind of review from this > year (there's a date of 2011 at the end of it). Next are the lyrics in > English and then in Japanese. The Japanese lyrics have what appears to be > footnotes at the end of some songs explaining certain references (Big > Apple, > Boom Boom Pachyderm, Winn-Dixie, etc). I don't speak Japanese so I'm really > curious to know what they say. > > As far as the sound quality... it's difficult to say. Joni's vocals are > nice > and up-front throughout, and they really soar during Refuge of the Roads. > Her breathing-in on "I've got a blue motel room" at the end of BMR is > noticeable and I don't recall this on the HDCD release. Percussion is > noticeably more in-the-mix throughout the album. Jaco's bass seems a little > cleaner in the mix and not so overdubbed. Some of Joni's guitar parts are > also clearer (especially during Furry Sings The Blues and Refuge of the > Roads). Black Crow, oddly enough, seems a real standout as far as this > remaster. It sounds almost like it was recently recorded (I noticed that > too > with the Paprika Plains remix). > > So is it worth purchasing? While I think the job on the artwork was really > well done nothing really encourages me to say "go and buy it." The HDCD > release is really nicely done, despite the rather blah artwork > reproduction. > I'm very curious to know how the other SHM remasters stand up. If anyone > else purchased them I'd love to hear your thoughts. > > Peace out, > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:33:43 +0200 From: "ron g" Subject: Re: njC computer virus software ? free anti-virus software is generally pretty good these days i use avast which seems to work well. avg is pretty good too. you can get them at download.com i generally stay away from norton & mcafee as they are resource intensive and may well affect your computer worse than a virus.... do bear in mind that an antivirus program running a scan will slow your computer down drastically, but is just temporary & will be good for it. to keep your machine running well try & avoid installing junk on it - all these funny "free" widgets & accessories just slow it down. be extremely careful about clicking on adverts, installing taskbars, etc. & one of the best bits of advice i can give is to reformat & reinstall regularly. keep your install files & drivers on a separate disc have your hard drive set up into 2 sections (or use 2 actual hard drives) - one with your operating system, one with your data. once a year reformat your operating system disc & reinstall from scratch you'll be amazed at the difference it makes... ron - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael quebec" To: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:01 AM Subject: njC computer virus software ? >I know this has been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it >up > again, but I have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service > with the free protection software offered by my service provider, stalled > computer, etc, etc. > > I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package from > Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services > downloadable from the web ? > > If the latter is the case, which would you recommend ? > > Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, > semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:21:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: njC computer virus software ? I only use a Mac when I have to for testing (software) purposes. Same with UNIX/LINUX (operating systems). For people who are really into these things, yes UNIX/LINUX are better operating systems than Windows. And I really have a grudge against Microsoft. Having said that, I still use a Windows machine at home and work. So, what can you do if you're a Windows user? - - Get an external hard drive to back up your entire system. (~ $150 USD) - - Periodically (depending on your computer use) update the contents of the external hard drive. - - Have/get CDs of all software you have installed, including Windows. - - Keep your virus definitions up to date. (Most do this automatically now. I don't have experience w/freeware - not sure I'd trust it.) The sad truth is that engineers create software and engineers are flawed. So all software is flawed. Shall I launch into my anti-nuclear rant now? (Software runs all nuclear plants. Which scares the bejeesus out of me!) lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #115 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------