From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #114 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 18 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 114 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- @Joniquotesdaily [Paul Castle ] Re: 10 years! [Lieve Reckers ] desert island discs website [Gertus@aol.com] Re: 10 years! [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: 10 years! [Mags ] NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder [Michael quebec ] Re: desert island discs website [Lieve Reckers ] Re: desert island discs website [Gertus@aol.com] Quality at Wolfgang's Vault, njc [Jim ] RE: Quality at Wolfgang's Vault, njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder [Mags ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:44:55 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: @Joniquotesdaily Just found this on Twitter http://twitter.com/Joniquotesdaily > @Joniquotesdaily Paprika Plains > Joni Mitchell Lyrics to Brighten your Day! (expect 3-6/day). > Not just Help & Big Yellow Taxi: I am digging deep! Run by > @spoonysmusicdiary Thought at first this must be Patti but doesn't look like it is. best to all PaulC NP I Gotta Woman by Ray Charles (live in LA - 1964) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:03:00 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: 10 years! Yes, do keep dropping by, Walt. You're part of what makes up this Happiest Place. Thanks for the Joni dogs quote, I for one just needed that today! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Walt Breen To: Jonilist Digest Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 4:33:28 Subject: 10 years! Hi gang, Sorry I haven't been around much. I did realize today that I first looked in on the Happiest Place on the Internet exactly ten years ago, when I got a hand-me-down Mac. Never met a nicer, more welcoming group of people on the net, or in real life, for that matter. Love to all -- I'll try to drop in more often. Walt "Little" Breen Well, I'm learning it's peaceful With a good dog and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century We're not gonna fix that up Too easy (Joni Mitchell, "Electricity", 1972) Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my website: www.learninginsights.info ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 07:37:01 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: desert island discs website The BBC has recently updated it's Desert Island Disc website so that it is searchable and contains records going back to 1942. A search for people who have chosen Joni songs reveals 19 people, although I think one is missing - - Renee Fleming chose River in 2005 but it doesn't seem to come up. The more recent programs are downloadable. The most popular choice? A Case of You was chosen 6 times out of 20. _BBC - Desert Island Discs - Find a castaway : Music artist "Joni mitchell"_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/find-a-castaway/music-artist/a6de8ef9-b1a1-4756-97aa-481bbb8a4069/artist-name/joni+mitchell) Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:26:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: 10 years! It's so wonderful that you've 'dropped in' for your anniversary. I too have been a bit lax, lurking more than posting... This really is the best place on the whole web. I take it too much for granted sometimes, even though it's part of every day. Wishing you all love and joy. (Coming up on 12 years myself...) lots of love, Anne On Apr 16, 2011, Walt Breen wrote: Hi gang, Sorry I haven't been around much. I did realize today that I first looked in on the Happiest Place on the Internet exactly ten years ago, when I got a hand-me-down Mac. Never met a nicer, more welcoming group of people on the net, or in real life, for that matter. Love to all -- I'll try to drop in more often. Walt "Little" Breen Well, I'm learning it's peaceful With a good dog and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century We're not gonna fix that up Too easy (Joni Mitchell, "Electricity", 1972) Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my website: www.learninginsights.info ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 07:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: 10 years! Congratulations both Walt and Anne...and I agree, this is the best place on the whole web. I think I'm ten years now, too. Beginning of April when it all began. wow. love love Mags ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:38:31 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder One of the great added benefits of participating in this list, albeit more and more sporadically these days, is getting to meet up with fellow listers from time to time as paths cross and cicumstances permit. Over the years, I've had the pleasure to meet a few of you through travels in the USA, and at the first Full Moon Jonifest in the Catskills, NY, many moons ago. This past February, my partner and I had the good fortune to get down to Australia for a first visit to a country that has long held a special place in my imagination. Canadians see Australians as cousins, due to our Comonweath ties perhaps, but perhaps also due to the fact that the geographies of our respective young countries have played a central role in forging our identities and destinies. There are also a few branches of my father's Irish famiy in Australia, which allowed me to greet a 3rd cousin for the first time. More to the point, I am probably one of the few people on this list who has had the pleasure to meet Mark-Leon Thorne, with whom I had corresponded on and off over the years. Mark kindly helped us shape our travel plans, then drove us out one Saturday into the countryside south of Sydney for a full day of sightseeing, which included rolling hils, clifftops, waterfalls, and a picnic in the woods. Our day ended with coffee and dessert at a sidewalk cafi in Newtown, a bohemian enclave in the southern part of central Sydney. So, I just wanted to acknowledge here Mark-Leon's kindness and generosity; he shared with us a wealth of information about his country and Australian music, and may I say he would be a formidable opponent in any game of Trivial Pursuit ! What was especilaly gratifying was that he was easy to hang out with, and made us both feel like old friends. So, thanks again Mark, and until next time. Michael in Quebec snapshot here: http://cid-137f7b5feadb2528.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Australia%202011/IMG%5E _5506.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:50:30 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder Wow Michael, that is heart warming to hear! We had indeed the pleasure to meet up at the Full Moon Jonifest (and thanks to you I have a lovely lilac JMDL sweater to prove it), and I am happy to find that your JMDL meetings continue! I can imagine that Mark was a great host - it's a pity he has not had the chance to host a full Jonifest, but we can still live in hope! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael quebec To: joni@smoe.org; mark-leon@iinet.net.au Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 15:38:31 Subject: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder One of the great added benefits of participating in this list, albeit more and more sporadically these days, is getting to meet up with fellow listers from time to time as paths cross and cicumstances permit. Over the years, I've had the pleasure to meet a few of you through travels in the USA, and at the first Full Moon Jonifest in the Catskills, NY, many moons ago. This past February, my partner and I had the good fortune to get down to Australia for a first visit to a country that has long held a special place in my imagination. Canadians see Australians as cousins, due to our Comonweath ties perhaps, but perhaps also due to the fact that the geographies of our respective young countries have played a central role in forging our identities and destinies. There are also a few branches of my father's Irish famiy in Australia, which allowed me to greet a 3rd cousin for the first time. More to the point, I am probably one of the few people on this list who has had the pleasure to meet Mark-Leon Thorne, with whom I had corresponded on and off over the years. Mark kindly helped us shape our travel plans, then drove us out one Saturday into the countryside south of Sydney for a full day of sightseeing, which included rolling hils, clifftops, waterfalls, and a picnic in the woods. Our day ended with coffee and dessert at a sidewalk cafi in Newtown, a bohemian enclave in the southern part of central Sydney. So, I just wanted to acknowledge here Mark-Leon's kindness and generosity; he shared with us a wealth of information about his country and Australian music, and may I say he would be a formidable opponent in any game of Trivial Pursuit ! What was especilaly gratifying was that he was easy to hang out with, and made us both feel like old friends. So, thanks again Mark, and until next time. Michael in Quebec snapshot here: http://cid-137f7b5feadb2528.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Australia%202011/IMG%5E _5506.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder It is always so nice to meet another lister, and I can well imagine that Mark was the sweetest, kindest host. I too have corresponded with Mark on several occasions, and he has given me the gift of not only his own friendship, he had to courage (I couldn't do it myself!) to contact my very first Joni friend who was near and dear to my heart, all the way back to 1974 in my home town. In fact, P and I worked at the same crisis line, that office was where I first heard Joni (Court and Spark). My friend P emigrated to Australia in the mid seventies, and we lost touch soon thereafter. Anyway, Mark and I used to enjoy some late night chats somewhere online, msn perhaps, and we were talking about P, that he had moved to Sydney...long story short, Mark took it upon himself to call a few numbers until he eventually found my friend. That was over two years ago, and P and I remain fast friends. I'm grateful, Mark, for this gift you gave to two long lost friends who share a lot of wonderful memories. There will be a meeting of the Joni minds in Toronto, soon come, and if you are interested, write me off list and we'll talk ;--) with tonnes of love Mags ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:01:52 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: desert island discs website Hi Jacky, yes I also clearly remembered the Renee Fleming episode. I put in her name in a search by castaway name, and it came up saying that there were no results for "renee fleming", Then I just entered "fleming" and would you know: this time it did come up with Renee Fleming! Here is the link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/3ce72729#p00934fc And then you will also see why this choice is not listed with the other "Joni Mitchell" selections: it is because Renee sings her own version of River! But what a great find this website it! If I had nothing else to do, I could lose myself in here for ages, catching up with all these great interviews, checking on their musical choices etc... Many thanks and good to see your name come up, Jacky! Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Gertus@aol.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 12:37:01 Subject: desert island discs website The BBC has recently updated it's Desert Island Disc website so that it is searchable and contains records going back to 1942. A search for people who have chosen Joni songs reveals 19 people, although I think one is missing - - Renee Fleming chose River in 2005 but it doesn't seem to come up. The more recent programs are downloadable. The most popular choice? A Case of You was chosen 6 times out of 20. _BBC - Desert Island Discs - Find a castaway : Music artist "Joni mitchell"_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/find-a-castaway/music-artist/a6de8ef9-b1a1-4756-97aa-481bbb8a4069/artist-name/joni+mitchell) Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:19:24 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: desert island discs website Ah! Thanks for the explanation, Lieve. I also found that David Lodge's choice of "You turn me on, I'm a radio" doesn't always turn up because it's listed as Joni Mitchell and the LA Express. Great site, as you say. I'm about to search for June Tabor as I heard her played by someone recently. Jacky In a message dated 17/04/2011 17:01:54 GMT Daylight Time, lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi Jacky, yes I also clearly remembered the Renee Fleming episode. I put in her name in a search by castaway name, and it came up saying that there were no results for "renee fleming", Then I just entered "fleming" and would you know: this time it did come up with Renee Fleming! Here is the link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/3ce72729#p 00934fc And then you will also see why this choice is not listed with the other "Joni Mitchell" selections: it is because Renee sings her own version of River! But what a great find this website it! If I had nothing else to do, I could lose myself in here for ages, catching up with all these great interviews, checking on their musical choices etc... Many thanks and good to see your name come up, Jacky! Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Gertus@aol.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 12:37:01 Subject: desert island discs website The BBC has recently updated it's Desert Island Disc website so that it is searchable and contains records going back to 1942. A search for people who have chosen Joni songs reveals 19 people, although I think one is missing - - Renee Fleming chose River in 2005 but it doesn't seem to come up. The more recent programs are downloadable. The most popular choice? A Case of You was chosen 6 times out of 20. _BBC - Desert Island Discs - Find a castaway : Music artist "Joni mitchell"_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/find-a-castaway/mu sic-artist/a6de8ef9-b1a1-4756-97aa-481bbb8a4069/artist-name/joni+mitchell) Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:50:53 -0400 From: Jim Subject: Quality at Wolfgang's Vault, njc I'm tempted to buy a download of Linda Ronstadt in concert. As far as I know, there's never been an official live album from her. Judging from the stream on http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/linda-ronstadt/concerts/calderone-concert-hall-january-29-1975.html my memory was correct: she was really great in a live concert. She killed. How good are the mp3 and flac files at that site? The stream sounds wavy, watery. Are the downloads like that or is it just the stream? Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:23:15 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Quality at Wolfgang's Vault, njc Jim, Well, the recordings are bootlegs (this one off the soundboard). If you are concerned with getting the best quality, get the flac. If you are a Vault member, the stream is 192kpbs, if not it is 96kpbs, which will sound pretty crappy. I'm listening to the 192kpbs stream now and I wouldn't describe it as wavy and watery. The straight soundboard quality can be dry--professional live recordings attempt to capture audience ambience and are professionally mixed and mastered. I have bought a very few things from WV in flac, and spectral and frequency analyses have shown them to be truly lossless. But even the 320kpbs mp3s are going to be a significant improvement over the 96kpbs stream. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jim > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:51 PM > To: JMDL > Subject: Quality at Wolfgang's Vault, njc > > I'm tempted to buy a download of Linda Ronstadt in concert. As far as I > know, there's never been an official live album from her. Judging from > the stream on > http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/linda-ronstadt/concerts/calderone-concert- > hall-january-29-1975.html > my memory was correct: she was really great in a live concert. She > killed. > > How good are the mp3 and flac files at that site? The stream sounds > wavy, watery. Are the downloads like that or is it just the stream? > > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:25:43 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder Wow! Very kind words for an obsessive chatterbox. By helping others, you can create nice memories for yourself. I really enjoyed our drive down the coast and up into the highlands. I'm only sorry that Reni was so ill. I hope I didn't make him worse by having the roof down. You are the ones who are kind, listening to my obsessive ramblings. Michael, you are only the second JMDLer that I've met. The other one being Don Whiteman here in Sydney. I was hoping we could meet up with him while you were here but his job keeps him very busy. I still hope OzFest will be a reality one day. The photos are wonderful and I'm so glad you got to see some animals. We still didn't get to see an elusive echidna though. Nor a wombat. Oh well, next trip. I will also remember breakfast in your little sublet. All that healthy, healthy food as the sun came streaming in. You Canadians know how to live. :-) Mags, if you know a little effort can make a difference to someone and bring them joy, why would you not help someone out? How much sacrifice on my part are a few phone calls? Mark in Sydney On 18/04/2011, at 12:38 AM, Michael quebec wrote: > One of the great added benefits of participating in this list, > albeit more and more sporadically these days, is getting to meet up > with fellow listers from time to time as paths cross and > cicumstances permit. Over the years, I've had the pleasure to meet a > few of you through travels in the USA, and at the first Full Moon > Jonifest in the Catskills, NY, many moons ago. > > This past February, my partner and I had the good fortune to get > down to Australia for a first visit to a country that has long held > a special place in my imagination. Canadians see Australians as > cousins, due to our Comonweath ties perhaps, but perhaps also due to > the fact that the geographies of our respective young countries have > played a central role in forging our identities and destinies. There > are also a few branches of my father's Irish famiy in Australia, > which allowed me to greet a 3rd cousin for the first time. > > More to the point, I am probably one of the few people on this list > who has had the pleasure to meet Mark-Leon Thorne, with whom I had > corresponded on and off over the years. Mark kindly helped us shape > our travel plans, then drove us out one Saturday into the > countryside south of Sydney for a full day of sightseeing, which > included rolling hils, clifftops, waterfalls, and a picnic in the > woods. Our day ended with coffee and dessert at a sidewalk cafi in > Newtown, a bohemian enclave in the southern part of central Sydney. > So, I just wanted to acknowledge here Mark-Leon's kindness and > generosity; he shared with us a wealth of information about his > country and Australian music, and may I say he would be a formidable > opponent in any game of Trivial Pursuit ! What was especilaly > gratifying was that he was easy to hang out with, and made us both > feel like old friends. So, thanks again Mark, and until next time. > > Michael in Quebec > > snapshot here: http://cid-137f7b5feadb2528.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Australia%202011/IMG%5E _5506.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:01:29 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: njC computer virus software ? I know this has been discussed on the list before, so sorry for bringing it up again, but I have some computer woes. Slow slogging and unreliable service with the free protection software offered by my service provider, stalled computer, etc, etc. I wonder if it is worth buying a security protection software package from Norton or McAffee, for example, or are there reliable free services downloadable from the web ? If the latter is the case, which would you recommend ? Many thanks from Michael in Quebec, semi-computer literate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder Great post, Michael - I can relate as I've had so many of those experiences myself. And I want to chime in as a member of the MLT appreciation society. As others have said, his talents, kindness and humility are apportioned in great measure. He's been a great help to me in the covers world. Bob NP: Aimee Mann, "Save Me" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC Meeting a JLister, downunder Mark, just singing your praises and chiming in along with Michael...isnt it nice to be appreciate by your Canadian fans :) > > Mags, if you know a little effort can make a difference to > someone and > bring them joy, why would you not help someone out? How > much sacrifice > on my part are a few phone calls? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #114 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------