From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #102 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 6 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 102 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 [] Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 [Lieve Reckers ] [none] [c Karma ] FW: re: My Old Man [c Karma ] RE: My Old Man [c Karma ] RE: My Old Man [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: My Old Man [Dave Blackburn ] RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 NJC [jlamadoo@sbc] Re: Meera Syal - First Love [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 [] RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 ["Laurent Olszer" <] Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 [] RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 ["Laurent Olszer" <] Re: My Old Man [Bob Muller ] Ballerina Valerie ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 01:02:44 -0700 From: Subject: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Hi Laurent, Thought I'd chime in with a few thoughts. We all know Joni throws out her strong opinions and I appreciate that about her but sure wish she would be more articulate at times and expound upon them. That may be difficult to do in a quick interview but it leaves her open to various interpretations, some or all of which may have nothing to do with what she meant. I interpreted her allusions to Pre WWII Germany not to mean that people were not aware of the atrocities or warning signals of same, but more that they were "comfortably numb" in their lives at the time, or in denial, and didn't want to recognize the true reality of what was happening. I can imagine it would be difficult for most people to really ackowledge the barbarity of it all. It's still unthinkable and unimaginable looking back at the history. So I take it as Joni thinking people are somewhat oblivious now to a lot of what goes on. As for life in L.A., I've been here all my life through good times and bad ;-) I can say with some confidence that the native Los Angelenos are actually very down to earth, traditional and have wonderful values. But it is the city of a thousand dreams and attracts so many diverse people from around the U.S. and the world and many of them come looking for some kind of dream life they see in the movies and TV. They are often very driven and on a compulsive fast track to achieve it all. I don't like that aspect but am used to seeing it. Women too aggressive - men too weak? It all probably stems from some kind of underlying fear and false front, and probably some of those same people are more real underneath it all but too scared or insecure to show it. Joni and everyone who laments the decadent, banal aspects of popular culture are right. Many agree. But I think we tend to always notice the worst of it and (rightfully) rant against it rather than ever see the many, many positive sides of it all. It's easy to be cynical but I continue to meet so many amazing, good and strong young people from every walk of life so it gives me hope for the future. As for leaders, past and present - most of them have had something productive to offer - some way more than others. But they are just human afterall and sometimes they are not fully appreciated except in retrospect. I really don't like the idea that every president or national leader is supposed to be some kind of messianic miracle worker who is going to finally deliver us all. That is foolish and dangerous thinking but it seems to be constantly promoted by the media, campaign advertising, etc. so a lot of people expect a supernatural hero right off the bat. Rather than some great visionary god, we should be looking for a competent, experienced executive manager who can get things done , try to keep us out of trouble and try to manage the costs! I know that sounds so pedestrian but if we can find people like that we sure might have a lot less daily angst going on ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:32:52 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Kakki, I couldn't agree more with just about everything you wrote. Maybe just one more thought: I think "people" (i.e. the general mass of the population) are always rather oblivious to "what is going on" - either by choice or by nature. To pick out Germany in pre-WWII seems unnecessarily facile: of course it is easy to say, with hindsight: "If only they had realised and thought more critically and not let it happen". You could use that example and feed it as a warning to people living at any other time. I don't think it is so much more relevant now than at any other era, to get that warning. In other words: I don't think it is accurate to pair off these times with pre-WWII times, since people being uncritical is something typical of all times. I really dislike generalisations. I don't think they lead to any real discussion. And this really makes me very hungry for a good, properly informed discussion about a clearly defined subject! (Like: what really happened in Germany in the 30s, how did various historical trends come together to create the outcome of Hitler? Or: what is really going on in Libya, what do the various opposition groups want? Or: how have male-female stereotypes evolved in popular culture?) I'm not saying we need to have those discussions here, but they are the discussions that I feel I can learn something from - not from someone, even someone as talented and liked and admired as Joni, spouting weird generalisations. Lieve ________________________________ From: "kbhla@fastmail.fm" To: joni@smoe.org; olszer@xlsecurity.com Sent: Tue, 5 April, 2011 9:02:44 Subject: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Hi Laurent, Thought I'd chime in with a few thoughts. We all know Joni throws out her strong opinions and I appreciate that about her but sure wish she would be more articulate at times and expound upon them. That may be difficult to do in a quick interview but it leaves her open to various interpretations, some or all of which may have nothing to do with what she meant. I interpreted her allusions to Pre WWII Germany not to mean that people were not aware of the atrocities or warning signals of same, but more that they were "comfortably numb" in their lives at the time, or in denial, and didn't want to recognize the true reality of what was happening. I can imagine it would be difficult for most people to really ackowledge the barbarity of it all. It's still unthinkable and unimaginable looking back at the history. So I take it as Joni thinking people are somewhat oblivious now to a lot of what goes on. As for life in L.A., I've been here all my life through good times and bad ;-) I can say with some confidence that the native Los Angelenos are actually very down to earth, traditional and have wonderful values. But it is the city of a thousand dreams and attracts so many diverse people from around the U.S. and the world and many of them come looking for some kind of dream life they see in the movies and TV. They are often very driven and on a compulsive fast track to achieve it all. I don't like that aspect but am used to seeing it. Women too aggressive - men too weak? It all probably stems from some kind of underlying fear and false front, and probably some of those same people are more real underneath it all but too scared or insecure to show it. Joni and everyone who laments the decadent, banal aspects of popular culture are right. Many agree. But I think we tend to always notice the worst of it and (rightfully) rant against it rather than ever see the many, many positive sides of it all. It's easy to be cynical but I continue to meet so many amazing, good and strong young people from every walk of life so it gives me hope for the future. As for leaders, past and present - most of them have had something productive to offer - some way more than others. But they are just human afterall and sometimes they are not fully appreciated except in retrospect. I really don't like the idea that every president or national leader is supposed to be some kind of messianic miracle worker who is going to finally deliver us all. That is foolish and dangerous thinking but it seems to be constantly promoted by the media, campaign advertising, etc. so a lot of people expect a supernatural hero right off the bat. Rather than some great visionary god, we should be looking for a competent, experienced executive manager who can get things done , try to keep us out of trouble and try to manage the costs! I know that sounds so pedestrian but if we can find people like that we sure might have a lot less daily angst going on ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:39:51 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Re: NJC American Idol Updates NJC and oh yeah NJC Bob, you asked: "Geez, do I REALLY look that lonely?" Methinks, it probably means that this is what most Western men out on their own in that area are looking for. Nothing personal, you're just a marketing statistic! Lieve in London - ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Muller To: anne@sandstrom.com Cc: guitarzan@hughes.net; joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 5 April, 2011 1:34:57 Subject: Re: Re: NJC American Idol Updates NJC and oh yeah NJC Well, what I do here in the office and what I do in the hotel are 2 different things. Ha! You would laugh to hear how boring my day is. It was funny, yesterday walking back to the hotel (around the corner and about 5 minutes away from the office bldg). This Chinese guy flags me down and gives me a stack of cards with pictures of Asian women in various outfits (nurse, schoolgirl, lingerie, etc) with phone numbers to call for massages and, um, conversation. I'm thinking "Geez, do I REALLY look that lonely?" :-D Exactly - I'm thinking that most folks just enjoy the day off in their own way. I do have one employee whose Mom passed away a few months ago so she was also off Monday to travel and be with her family to honor the day. Bob NP: Bachman-Turner Overdrive, "Let It Ride" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:40:03 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Dear All, Just a couple of comments on Lieve and Kakki's posts: Pre WWII Germany: i think it was a combination of looking the other way and being terrorized by Hitler's thugs. What makes me mad is hearing "we didn't know what was going on". Sure they knew damn well. Yes it was difficult to speak out but some did so obviously they must have known. Presidents: i never wrote we should look for a messianic or supernatural hero. I just wrote we needed real statesmen with a vision and of course that means competent experienced executives. I just don't think that the U.S. presidents of the last 30 years were the best executives that the country could have chosen, with proven track records. Let's face it, did the U.S. pick the most competent person out of 200+ million people? I don't think so, they got elected for other reasons including PR skills. Back to my examples: Roosevelt had a vision on how to get the country out of the recession. Churchill had a clear vision of what Hitler & Stalin were really like, he didn't get fooled like other european leaders did. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:14:00 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Meera Syal - First Love On a SkyArts programme called 'First Love', actress, comedienne, writer and director goes to her first love of jazz singing. Lo and behold what does she choose to sing at Ronnie Scott's in rehearsal? Twisted and A Case Of You. Jamie Zubairi Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:52:17 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: [none] Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:55:30 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: FW: re: My Old Man Now with subject. Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:24:10 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: My Old Man Well, I think you're guesses are REALLY accurate. The Boho Dance and Shades of Scarlett Conquering are beautifully done, Scarlett in particular must have been very difficult since the piano drifts way back. Subject: Re: My Old Man From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:12:19 -0700 CC: joni@smoe.org To: ckarma@hotmail.com You're welcome, Chris (or is it now officially YOUR welcome?). It's nice that these get appreciated. I have more on the way as time allows. I will try to assuage your joyful expectation regarding Blue Boy! The solo piano & voice songs are pretty easy compared to the full band tunes in which the piano is tucked into a dense mix like the ones on Hissing and Court. Those take some educated guesswork in places. Dave On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, c Karma wrote:Now with subject. Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:05:36 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: My Old Man Thanks Dave! I really appreciate your additions to the database!!! (even though I don't play piano!) Take care, Sue - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:24 AM To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: My Old Man Well, I think you're guesses are REALLY accurate. The Boho Dance and Shades of Scarlett Conquering are beautifully done, Scarlett in particular must have been very difficult since the piano drifts way back. Subject: Re: My Old Man From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:12:19 -0700 CC: joni@smoe.org To: ckarma@hotmail.com You're welcome, Chris (or is it now officially YOUR welcome?). It's nice that these get appreciated. I have more on the way as time allows. I will try to assuage your joyful expectation regarding Blue Boy! The solo piano & voice songs are pretty easy compared to the full band tunes in which the piano is tucked into a dense mix like the ones on Hissing and Court. Those take some educated guesswork in places. Dave On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, c Karma wrote:Now with subject. Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:41:11 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: My Old Man I have just added my composite arrangement of Tax Free which is essentially the bass gtr/synth and elec gtr parts written in guitar octave ie one octave up. Apart from bar 27 all the parts are simultaneously playable on guitar. At bar 27, The F bass note under the Gsus2 arpeggio is not physically playable in standard tuning. I play a Dm/F instead, which is very close. It works pretty well as an acoustic guitar tune. I played it with Cassy and Bob at SoCal Fest 09. Dave On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > Thanks Dave! I really appreciate your additions to the database!!! (even though I don't play piano!) > > Take care, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:24 AM > To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: My Old Man > > Well, I think you're guesses are REALLY accurate. The Boho Dance and Shades > of Scarlett Conquering are beautifully done, Scarlett in particular must have > been very difficult since the piano drifts way back. > Subject: Re: My Old Man > From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:12:19 -0700 > CC: joni@smoe.org > To: ckarma@hotmail.com > > > > You're welcome, Chris (or is it now officially YOUR welcome?). It's nice that > these get appreciated. I have more on the way as time allows. I will try to > assuage your joyful expectation regarding Blue Boy! The solo piano & voice > songs are pretty easy compared to the full band tunes in which the piano is > tucked into a dense mix like the ones on Hissing and Court. Those take some > educated guesswork in places. > > Dave > > > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, c Karma wrote:Now with subject. > > > Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. > They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that > come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. > CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I > have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the > transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like > it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:46:21 -0700 (PDT) From: jlamadoo@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 NJC Great description, Mags. I'm glad you came back to the JMDL. Jim L'Hommedieu >I love watching her read her work, and especially when she comes to a particularly funny bit (not always obvious)..she does this great side glance thing and with a little twinkle in her eye, and a bit of a smile...there she goes.> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:56:36 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Meera Syal - First Love Great! She is so talented, at least as an actress and writer. Good to know music is another of her talents, and what a wonderful choice of songs! I wish I could see it, but don't have access to Sky. If anyone finds it on youtube, let us know! Lieve - ----- Original Message ---- From: Jamie Zubairi To: Joni JMDL Sent: Tue, 5 April, 2011 13:14:00 Subject: Meera Syal - First Love On a SkyArts programme called 'First Love', actress, comedienne, writer and director goes to her first love of jazz singing. Lo and behold what does she choose to sing at Ronnie Scott's in rehearsal? Twisted and A Case Of You. Jamie Zubairi Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:03:36 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Lieve and Laurent, I'm pretty much on the same page with both of you re: your comments. Laurent - I did not mean to imply you thought we should have a messiah for a leader. I was just riffing off the various topics and thinking of Hitler and how he originally came to gain so much power. Some people were in rough straits at the time and were vulnerable and susceptible to following a mesmerizing, charismatic figure who would "save" them and "fix" everything. We all know how that turned out. Thank God for modern day term limits for those who hold political office! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:05:33 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: My Old Man I was there, and it was one of the highlights of the fest (except for Dancin Clown, of course!) :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:41 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: c Karma; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: My Old Man I have just added my composite arrangement of Tax Free which is essentially the bass gtr/synth and elec gtr parts written in guitar octave ie one octave up. Apart from bar 27 all the parts are simultaneously playable on guitar. At bar 27, The F bass note under the Gsus2 arpeggio is not physically playable in standard tuning. I play a Dm/F instead, which is very close. It works pretty well as an acoustic guitar tune. I played it with Cassy and Bob at SoCal Fest 09. Dave On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > Thanks Dave! I really appreciate your additions to the database!!! (even though I don't play piano!) > > Take care, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:24 AM > To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: My Old Man > > Well, I think you're guesses are REALLY accurate. The Boho Dance and Shades > of Scarlett Conquering are beautifully done, Scarlett in particular must have > been very difficult since the piano drifts way back. > Subject: Re: My Old Man > From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 07:12:19 -0700 > CC: joni@smoe.org > To: ckarma@hotmail.com > > > > You're welcome, Chris (or is it now officially YOUR welcome?). It's nice that > these get appreciated. I have more on the way as time allows. I will try to > assuage your joyful expectation regarding Blue Boy! The solo piano & voice > songs are pretty easy compared to the full band tunes in which the piano is > tucked into a dense mix like the ones on Hissing and Court. Those take some > educated guesswork in places. > > Dave > > > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:55 AM, c Karma wrote:Now with subject. > > > Dave, Thanks SO much to you and Barnaby for doing these piano transcriptions. > They give me deep joy! I will wait in joyful expectation (hmm, where did that > come from...?) for "Blue Boy" someday. > CCFrom: Dave Blackburn Subject: My Old ManPianists,I > have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the > transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like > it...Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:35:59 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 I've downloaded an ebook called "Explaining Hitler" by Ron Rosembaum and it's a fascinating analysis of all theories Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:36:17 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 I just read the interesting synopsis of the book over at Amazon. Also, the many reviews there are very informative and thought-provoking. I can't know exactly what Joni meant with her Pre WW II comments. Growing up in school we were taught about Hitler in many grade levels. The overall emphasis was to be aware of evil leadership and learn to read the early warning signs so hopefully it will never happen again. Of course, we have subsequently witnessed many Hitler types, large and small, who have come to power and perpetrated atrocities and genocide. Sometimes the best efforts to stop them result in other unintended consequences that serve to create yet other long term dilemmas and problems. Kakki > > I've downloaded an ebook called "Explaining Hitler" by Ron Rosembaum and > it's a fascinating analysis of all theories > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 23:36:58 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Hi Kakki First, let me encourage you and readers to not think the synopsis and reviews replace the book reading or listening experience. It really does not and as 1 reviewer wrote "i could not put it down". I also read the 1 review that gave it 1 star and the reason is that the reviewer thinks Rosenbaum missed the 1 theory. On the contrary, what's fascinating about the book is that Rosenbaum critically analyses every theory that have been developed over the years by scholars. Second, i am quite impressed that your school teachers would emphasize early warning signs of evil. That i am afraid must have been too rare, otherwise we would not be witnessing, as you wrote, evil and genocide still flourishing. Yes you put the finger on the key issue, which is "history has taught us (almost) nothing" and very sadly it can "happen again". Perhaps what Joni meant is that we are as culturally advanced as pre WWII Germany and that if it could happen there then it can happen anywhere? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:30:35 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Hi Laurent, I don't have a Kindle so can't download it to start reading now, but wanted to get an idea of the book. In some of the reviews, I actually learned some things mentioned in the book that I had not previously known such as information about the group of brave German journalists who, even as early as the 1920s, kept trying to warn people about Hitler. I'm not sure what kind of history children are currently being taught today but hear that a lot is left out. It was probably more emphasized in "my day" because it was so starkly recent in everyone's memories. I used to be so shocked and amazed as a kid to think all that nightmare happened less than 10 years before I was born. It just seemed surreal. > Perhaps what Joni meant is that we are as culturally advanced as pre WWII > Germany and that if it could happen there then it can happen anywhere? I think you've hit on it exactly! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:30:36 -0700 From: Subject: Re: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 Hi Laurent, I don't have a Kindle so can't download it to start reading now, but wanted to get an idea of the book. In some of the reviews, I actually learned some things mentioned in the book that I had not previously known such as information about the group of brave German journalists who, even as early as the 1920s, kept trying to warn people about Hitler. I'm not sure what kind of history children are currently being taught today but hear that a lot is left out. It was probably more emphasized in "my day" because it was so starkly recent in everyone's memories. I used to be so shocked and amazed as a kid to think all that nightmare happened less than 10 years before I was born. It just seemed surreal. > Perhaps what Joni meant is that we are as culturally advanced as pre WWII > Germany and that if it could happen there then it can happen anywhere? I think you've hit on it exactly! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:06:08 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: RE: My Old Man Dave wrote: "Pianists, I have done a new piano transcription of My Old Man and added it to the transcription database. It's piano only; no vocal staff. Hope you like it..." Well, thank you for that, Dave! I have always found this to be a rather magical piece, and look forward to your refinement of the arrangement from the Blue book. Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 01:06:13 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: Charlie Rose's Green Room with Joni Mitchell 2008 To Kakki and all: The ebook is available at www.thepiratebay.org in mp3 format. Just enter Rosenbaum in the search engine. To Sue: About your course at Cornell, this is a very touchy subject and by no means I am going to imply that jews have a monopoly on suffering. Of course there have been too many dreadful genocides since WWII. But the truth is nothing compares to the holocaust in that it was a planned industrial endeavor by a state. Sure there have been mass killings ordered by states but, to illustrate my point with 1 example, they didn't "recycle" the victims into soap bars or lamp shades like the Nazis did. Did you know that? So I resent when some people, intellectuals or not, compare other genocides to the Shoah because for me that is a way to trivialize it. Likewise, and I know I am digressing here, comparing the Israelis with the Nazis is exactly the same denial campaign used by Palestinians, Iranians and their ilk. One may or may not agree with Israeli policies, but they don't do anything anywhere near what the Nazis did. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: My Old Man Luckily Cassy and Dave carried Tax Free - I was honored to be a part of that - anytime I can be a part of doing a "new" Joni song at a Jonifest, I'm delighted to do it. Would have liked some more rehearsal time with Dancin' Clown, but then again....why? :-) That was a wonderful time - my mind drifts back there at least once a week. Bob NP: Natalie Merchant, "Thick As Thieves" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 22:09:30 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Ballerina Valerie Joni's 2nd Fret Coke commercial, thanks to Gary Z for hipping me to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2SfjZ9EOsc RR ps the guitar cadence and first couple of notes remind me of "Hunter" (aka The Good Samaritan) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #102 ***************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. 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