From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #87 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 23 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 087 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... [Michael Paz ] Kate Bush - njc [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... [Bob Muller ] Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... ["Mark" ] NJC Old Friends [Rich Newirth ] NJC [Rich Newirth ] Re: NJC Old Friends [Les Irvin ] for so many years...the stream flows on ["Mark" ] Re: annoyance NJC ["Randy Remote" ] new approach to Morgellons ["Marian" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:53:48 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... That's a relief, Bob! But I'm not surprised Joni came on the speakers. Hasn't she always been there when we needed her (music)? Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "JMDL" Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:21 PM Subject: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... > But it's true. > > I went in today for a routine colonoscopy (everything was fine) and as > they were > wheeling me from the prep room to the procedure room, guess who come on > the > speakers? Darn right! > > I had to laugh because it was 'Help Me', probably not what you want to > hear when > you're heading in to a medical procedure. Anyway, it was a comfort. I took > it as > a sign that all would go well, which it did. > > Bob > > NP: John Mellencamp, "In Our Lives" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:37:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... You made me laugh, Bob. Oddly enough, another good friend of mine is having her colonoscopy tomorrow. Glad it all went well. I do recall having a tooth pulled once while listening to Big Yellow Taxi. lots of love, Anne On Mar 21, 2011, Bob Muller wrote: But it's true. I went in today for a routine colonoscopy (everything was fine) and as they were wheeling me from the prep room to the procedure room, guess who come on the speakers? Darn right! I had to laugh because it was 'Help Me', probably not what you want to hear when you're heading in to a medical procedure. Anyway, it was a comfort. I took it as a sign that all would go well, which it did. Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "In Our Lives" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:05:22 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... Hahahahahahahahaha! Help me, I think I'm squirming. I'm on my side. Don't you think you'd better put some more lube on that? I'm worried about the size. I've seen a lot of sharp, sharp razors 'round my smokin' ass. We love our ass hair, but not like we love our greasin'. Sympathies, brutha. I'm about to go for one of those myself. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:03:44 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Joni and Japan The events in Japan even have consequences on Joni. I just received this: Hello. We are sending you this email to inform you that record companies are postponing new releases to come out in March until later in April. By taking this measure, they hope all resources available for transportations may be used to help the efforts to reach out to people in the devastated regions. CDJapan fully supports this measure, but at the same time, we apologize for the inconvenience caused by the delay. List of Your Orders and Items - -------------- OrderNo:10103745429 WPCR-14097 Joni Mitchell / For The Roses [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] [SHM-CD] [Limited Release] Original Release Date:2011/04/06 New Release Date:2011/04/20 WPCR-14099 Joni Mitchell / The Hissing Of Summer Lawns [Cardboard Sleeve (mini LP)] [SHM-CD] [Limited Release] Original Release Date:2011/04/06 New Release Date:2011/04/20 Thank you so much for your understanding. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:51:24 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... Thank goodness it was not Dancing Clown you heard. Great news on the test. Had one a few months ago and I am Aok as well Paz (on my way to Little Rock) Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Mar 21, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: You made me laugh, Bob. Oddly enough, another good friend of mine is having her colonoscopy tomorrow. Glad it all went well. I do recall having a tooth pulled once while listening to Big Yellow Taxi. lots of love, Anne On Mar 21, 2011, Bob Muller wrote: But it's true. I went in today for a routine colonoscopy (everything was fine) and as they were wheeling me from the prep room to the procedure room, guess who come on the speakers? Darn right! I had to laugh because it was 'Help Me', probably not what you want to hear when you're heading in to a medical procedure. Anyway, it was a comfort. I took it as a sign that all would go well, which it did. Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "In Our Lives" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:59:00 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... Yeah - that would have been a BAD omen - of course, had I heard DANCING CLOWN on any radio or muzak broadcast, I would have a heart attack before they could even wheel me in to the procedure room. Glad you're also clean as a (bird that) whistle(s). Bob NP: The Band, "Mystery Train" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I'm on my side. > Don't you think you'd better put some more lube on that? > I'm worried about the size. > I've seen a lot of sharp, sharp razors 'round my smokin' ass. > We love our ass hair, but not like we love our greasin'. > > Sympathies, brutha. I'm about to go for one of those myself. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Carter Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this....(NJC) Years ago, when I went in for my 40 year old prostate exam, I told the Doctor that if I hear any snapping plastic glove sounds, I'd be coming off that table with evil intentions. He laughed and was quiet back there. NP on the radio ...Katy Perry. . . Teenage Dream - --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... To: "Mark-Leon Thorne" , scjoniguy@yahoo.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 10:43 AM Ha ha ha, Mark. That was just screaming for a song parody and sure enough, there you were! - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > To: scjoniguy@yahoo.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 7:05:22 AM > Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... > > Hahahahahahahahaha! > > Help me, I think I'm squirming. I'm on my side. > Don't you think you'd better put some more lube on that? > I'm worried about the size. > I've seen a lot of sharp, sharp razors 'round my smokin' ass. > We love our ass hair, but not like we love our greasin'. > > Sympathies, brutha. I'm about to go for one of those myself. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:31:46 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Trimming replies NJC Mark wrote: >That being said, I think it is a good idea to try remember to trim the post >you may be responding to down to the parts that are relevant to your >response. I know I've gotten a bit lazy about that. But I'm sure the >digest people appreciate not having to scroll through a whole string of >related posts repeatedly just to read the latest response. Bless you Mark! Since you posted we've had at least one entire digest copied back to the list - it makes it really hard to separate the new stuff from the old stuff, and I'd hate to miss any words of wisdom from any of you. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:20:50 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Kate Bush - njc Rejoice ye Kathe Bush freaks: *KATE BUSH 'Director's Cut'* *[release Monday 16th May 2011]* 2011 UK Deluxe Edition 3-CD album set Kate Bush releases an unusual new album 'Director's Cut' on May 16 on her own label Fish People, in conjunction with EMI. On 'Directors Cut', Kate revisits a selection of tracks from her albums 'The Sensual World' and 'The Red Shoes', a process that presents a fascinating portrait of an artist in a constant state of evolution. She has re-recorded some elements whilst keeping the best musical performances of each song - making it something of a director's cut but in sound, not vision. A new version of 'Deeper Understanding' will be released as a single (digital only) in April. Although written some twenty years ago, the song may be more relevant today than ever... Kate is currently working on new material although no release date has been set for this. 'Director's Cut' will be released in the following formats: Standard CD in a case-bound book, Deluxe CD (three disc package, including Director's Cut, The Sensual Word and re-mastered The Red Shoes) in a case-bound book and two-disc vinyl. *#34.99* Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... LOL! Best laugh of the day...and yeah, that was my theme music for Monday MORNING. Bob NP: Elvis C, "Just A Memory" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:02:36 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... And a brilliant parody it is! Do the rest of the song, Mark! Ain't getting older fun? As far as I'm concerned, the prep for the colonoscopy is far worse than the procedure itself. The procedure is like a pleasant little nap. The prep is...well let's just say unpleasant. Mark in Seattle who has had 2 colonoscopies with unremarkable findings - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:43 AM To: Mark-Leon Thorne ; scjoniguy@yahoo.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... Ha ha ha, Mark. That was just screaming for a song parody and sure enough, there you were! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:31:31 -0700 From: Rich Newirth Subject: NJC Old Friends Thanks, Les, for that archival link. I've not really resurfaced but it was quite an experience to see a post of mine way back from 1996. Many fond memories. My best to you all, Rich From: richnew@ferret.slip.net (richnew) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 19:44:49 -0700 Subject: I'm in a posting mood so, I guess you'll have to indulge me. That's not true; you can always delete the message. Another Joni anecdote from my personal history: As I mentioned really early on, my friend Teri turned me on to Joni when I was about 16. When people thought of something to identify me with, it was Joni. I wore white tee shirts on which I traced Joni's profile from the Ladies of the Canyon song book. (I still have those shirts but I've grown a bit in these last 20 odd years.) When I was in high school, I was in a singing group called Folk Club. We did a variety of traditional and contemporary folk/rock songs. Chelsea Morning was a staple. In our final concert before I graduated, each of us did a solo, and I did the Circle Game with three women friends singing back up. I even played the guitar. (You would not, trust me on this, want to hear me play guitar today.) I went off to college at the ripe old age of 17. From the get-go, my identity was linked with Joni. Now, I know you folks don't know me, but I was 17, living in Boston in a FRATERNITY of all places. (It's hard for me to understand that now. I was going to MIT and each fraternity had a reputation. I discovered after I transferred from MIT to another school that my fraternity's reputation was that it was the drug fraternity. How naive I was!) Anyway, back to the point. I decided, with a few friends to throw a party, a very civilized affair, a wine and cheese thing. Well, I don't know who started the rumor, but it quickly got around that I was a personal friend of Joni and had met her through my high school singing experiences. It was just a rumor but it got out of control. People started posting notices that Joni was going to show up at this reception in her honor, etc., etc..... Well, of course, the whole thing was a hoax. The party drew a large crowd, many of whom got intensely pissed off with me for the deception. We did play Joni records all night, and, in fact, it was a pretty fun and wonderful affair. But, it took years before some of those folks forgave me. If they ever did. Anyway, forgive my self-indulgence. Just had to get that off my chest. I have more stories to tell, so to keep me quiet, please tell yours. No one could embarrass themselves more than me. Best to you all (as I intentionally try to distract myself from watching the presidential debate), Rich - ----------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:34:13 -0700 From: Rich Newirth Subject: NJC Some things haven't changed Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:50:09 +0100 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: annoyance NJC Any way we can get the opening (I'm out of the office) post removed? Or get Ken or Keith or whatever his name is back in the office? mike in bcn np John McLaughlin - Homage - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 04:43:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: annoyance NJC He has been out of the office far too long, as far as I'm concerned. (Harumph.) That's only one of several reasons why I don't use my office email for things like the Joni list. Since 1996. My best to you (and probably the last you'll hear from me in a long while), Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:49:40 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: NJC Old Friends So good to hear from you, my friend. Rich was one of the very first people on the JMDL, I think he was number 8 or something. In those early days he tirelessly helped me get the word out about the fledgling list. Because of his efforts, the list grew to over 100 people in just a few days. If I wore a hat, Rich, it would be off right now. On 3/22/2011 8:31 PM, Rich Newirth wrote: > Thanks, Les, for that archival link. I've not really resurfaced but it was > quite an experience to see a post of mine way back from 1996. Many fond > memories. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:17:36 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: for so many years...the stream flows on Lately it seems that when I sing a Joni Mitchell song I feel like I am unearthing something new from the lyrics each time. I used to sing Joni's songs to myself, carefully trying to mimic her phrasing and expression, just because I love to sing and I love those songs. I know so many of them like the back of my hand. In my head, anyway, it was almost like the needle was hitting the vinyl and I was the sound system. However, I am not a professional singer by any stretch of the imagination. I don't even play an instrument. Except for a couple of musicals I was in when I was in college, singing with accompaniment usually makes me so intimidated that I can't rise to it. But now, when I sing to myself, there is a difference. My brain engages with the song and it seems like each word and note is fresh, almost like the meanings are occurring to me for the first time as I sing them. It's like when a really good actor creates the illusion that they are saying the words of a play or movie for the first time. I've had that feeling once or twice on stage when the play, the actors and direction were particularly good. There is a level of concentration that almost puts you into a altered state of mind. You know the audience is there but at the same time you are so engaged in the scene that at least part of you has entered the world that your character inhabits. Well walking home tonight I started with 'People's Parties' and went on into 'The Same Situation' since, in my mind, the two songs are practically inseparable. When I finished singing 'The Same Situation', feeling like I was channeling emotions coming out of it for the first time, I was thinking 'I'm glad I won't have to re-live that!' Joni must have been around 30 when she wrote the song and I was about 20 when I first heard it. The words resonated when I was 20 but I don't think I fully understood what they were all about. At 20 the song was sad and full of longing. But what came through tonight was the despair that created it. The same situation for so many years. Being so emotionally needy that you live for the phone to ring and are always surrounded by your self critical reflections. Your current lover has 'had lots of lovely women' and now seems to be constantly evaluating you. This lover demands your honesty but knows how needy you are and uses that honesty and neediness to manipulate and hurt you. You are unable to find a spiritual point to focus on but nonetheless, you pray for deliverance from the plight of what you see as 'the millions of the lost and lonely ones'. For the first time I began to believe that the story about the attempted suicide and emotional meltdown in 'Girls Like Us' could possibly be true. But it seems to me that 'The Same Situation' is a more likely candidate for the song that came out of it than 'Car on a Hill'. Although I've always thought that Joni has a bedrock of inner strength beneath her vulnerability, I can see how the state of mind she expressed in 'The Same Situation' could cause have caused an emotional cave-in. Later this evening, when I was out in the yard with our dog, I remembered that I had listened to Billie Holiday singing 'Good Morning Heartache' last night. That song is associated with one of those 'hard hot blazes' in my life that came 'down to smoke and ash', to borrow a few words from another song on the same album as 'The Same Situation'. The heat that was first generated in that short lived relationship was mutual but the feelings that I developed were not. I remember waiting for the phone to ring. Calling too often when it didn't ring. Trying to figure out what I needed to do to hang on. I would wake up in the morning with my stomach in knots, making 'Good Morning Heartache' my reality. This was a few years after I had first heard 'The Same Situation' when I was closer to 30 than I was to 20. I didn't know Billie Holiday yet. I just knew the Diana Ross version from 'Lady Sings the Blues' but 'Good Morning Heartache' was one of the reasons why I eventually went on to explore and fall in love with Billie's music. And that short flame made 'Good Morning Heartache' an earworm with me for awhile. In a superficial, Tin-Pan Alley kind of way, 'Good Morning Heartache' expresses some of the same feelings as 'The Same Situation'. Check it out. Good morning heartache You old gloomy sight Good morning heartache Thought we said good-bye last night I turned and tossed until it seemed you had gone But here you are with the dawn Wish I'd forget you But you're here to stay It seems I met you When my love went away Now every day I start by saying to you Good morning heartache, what's new? Stop haunting me now Can't chase you no how Just leave me alone I've got those Monday blues Straight through Sunday blues Good morning heartache Here we go again Good morning heartache You're the one who knew me when Might as well get used to you hanging around Good morning heartache, sit down Or course, when Billie sang it, the song took on dimensions that no-one else could reveal in it. Again and again in the same situation. Good morning heartache, sit down. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 23:44:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: Maybe y'all won't believe this.... ha ha! When the dentist was pulling my tooth to BYT, the line "you don't know what you've got til it's gone" seemed appropriate... lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:34:57 -0700 From: Rich Newirth Subject: Re: NJC Old Friends And I fondly remember my colleagues back then, even if we never met. Sue McNamara, Jerry Notaro, Mark from Seattle, and later Kakhi, Paz, et. al. And especially Les, and the late Wally Breese. Please know that you will always have a treasured place in my heart. My best to you (ironic in my dotage to ask whether I'm correct in remembering that phrase from Taming of the Tiger days? I'm sorry if this comes across blasphemous.) Rich On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > So good to hear from you, my friend. Rich was one of the very first people > on the JMDL, I think he was number 8 or something. In those early days he > tirelessly helped me get the word out about the fledgling list. Because of > his efforts, the list grew to over 100 people in just a few days. If I wore > a hat, Rich, it would be off right now. > > > On 3/22/2011 8:31 PM, Rich Newirth wrote: > >> Thanks, Les, for that archival link. I've not really resurfaced but it >> was >> quite an experience to see a post of mine way back from 1996. Many fond >> memories. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:49:25 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: annoyance NJC > Any way we can get the opening (I'm out of the office) post removed? > Or get Ken or Keith or whatever his name is back in the office? > mike in bcn I think we should sneak into his office and rearrange everything on his desk. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:17:29 +0100 From: "Marian" Subject: new approach to Morgellons If anyone is in touch with Joni, please pass this on to her. Dr. Neelam Taneja-Uppal, a doctor who has been treating somone I know, believes that the fibers (and "seeds") are all part of the lifecycle of a worm and has written a book entitled: Is Your Pet Safe? The person I know has two small dogs. Info about the book from amazon: Is Your Pet Safe?: Morgellon's Disease- A New parasitic disease may be transmitted by pets Neelam Taneja-Uppal MD "I went to several doctors for five years with skin lesions. Nobody believed me. They called me 'Delusional'. Dr. Uppal figured it out, treated me and I am better now after so many years. Dr. Uppal saved my life." - Andronikki Rios The book is based on my practice of Infectious diseases and discovery of a new parasitic disease referred to as Morgellon's Disease. My experience made me realize the dilemmas of the recognition of the disease in the medical community and social implication. It made me understand how it may be spreading in United States and how it may be prevented as a Public Health issue. Hence to bring this awareness to the public and healthcare providers I was compelled to write this book. A 40 years old woman comes to my office with sores all over body. Complains of crawling sensations and itching. States she sees threads coming out of her body. She grabs the hand sanitizer and rubs on her belly and tries to bring out stuff. She has been diagnosed with 'delusional parasitosis'. But in talking to her she is an extremely intelligent woman. So I decide to investigate and what I have discovered is in this book. What led me to write this book is that I can educate the people with the disease, their families and caretakers that have to deal with these patients and the health care professionals that are looking for some answers unraveled a mysterious Disease, that has baffled the smartest of physicians. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #87 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------