From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #51 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Friday, February 18 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 051 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Mitchell [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Covers Update [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] re: Photos online, NJC [M C ] Re: Covers Update [Catherine McKay ] Re: Covers Update [Gerald Notaro ] sign off prayer (njc) [Robert Procyk ] Re: Covers Update [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: sign off prayer (njc) [Mags ] Re: Joni Mitchell [T Peckham ] Re: Covers Update [T Peckham ] Re: sign off prayer (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: sign off prayer (njc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: sign off prayer (njc) ["Richard Flynn"] Re: sign off prayer [Catherine McKay ] Re: sign off prayer (njc) [Lc Stanley ] Re: sign off prayer [Catherine McKay ] RE: sign off prayer [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: sign off prayer [Kate Johnson ] Re: sign off prayer [Kate Johnson ] which album? [TERRY COOK ] Re: Norma Rae njc ["Mark" ] Re: Joni Mitchell [Garret ] New Library item: Three Throats [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] Re: Norma Rae njc [T Peckham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:14:42 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Hey, don't get me wrong - I had no use for them then and still don't. I saw/see them as an attempt to foist her more unpopular recordings on an unreceptive public. NONE of them are in my collection and won't be unless someone gives me one. But for Laura's purposes, they're not a bad way to think about introducing someone to the spectrum of Joni's sound. Bob NP: Gregg Cagno, "Dropped (Welcome To The System)" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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And those of you who are friends with me on FB can see a couple of pics from last night - - me in full Major Bouvier/Norman Vincent Peale mode. And I am planning a new volume for March, but if all goes as planned job-wise I'm on my way to Beijing China for a 4-month assignment and I won't have access to my library/programs to do much about releasing any new or old volumes. Will try to catch up when I return in June/July. Any JMDLer's in Beijing?? In other covers news, I love the repeaters - artists who love to cover Joni songs and have at least one pretty much every time they put out a release. This week quite a few of these were announced. Emely Anne from Patti P's corner of the world put out a new CD and this time 'round she includes covers of Coyote and Hejira. She had released All I Want on her last record. William Gamble, who covered Cactus Tree on his last album, tackles the challenging Down To You on his latest (Big Yay!) And finally, Ian Shaw, who recorded a whole CD's worth of Joni covers, will be adding Be Cool to his upcoming March release. Haven't hit the 3,500 mark yet but am knocking at the door! Bob NP: Cheap Trick, "Big Eyes" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: M C Subject: re: Photos online, NJC Thank you, Laura, this is really good information. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:06:00 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Covers Update - ----- Original Message ---- > > And I am planning a new volume for March, but if all goes as planned > job-wise I'm on my way to Beijing China for a 4-month assignment and I > won't have access to my library/programs to do much about releasing any > new or old volumes. Will try to catch up when I return in June/July. Any > JMDLer's in Beijing?? > WOW! How cool is that!? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:26:53 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Covers Update Muller, if you bring back any more Chinese versions of Both Sides Now or The Circle Game, you are dead meat. Jerry - ----- Original Message ---- > > > And I am planning a new volume for March, but if all goes as planned > > job-wise I'm on my way to Beijing China for a 4-month assignment and I > > won't have access to my library/programs to do much about releasing any > > new or old volumes. Will try to catch up when I return in June/July. Any > > JMDLer's in Beijing?? > > > > WOW! How cool is that!? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:20:37 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: sign off prayer (njc) When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY American t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we moved and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they played "Oh Canada". Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:56:48 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Covers Update Well, you can bet that I'll be on the lookout. Or maybe Big Rerro Taxi. Bob NP: Built To Spill, "Mess With Time" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I > saw/see them as an attempt to foist her more unpopular recordings on an > unreceptive public. NONE of them are in my collection and won't be unless > someone gives me one. But for Laura's purposes, they're not a bad way to > think about introducing someone to the spectrum of Joni's sound. > > Bob > > NP: Gregg Cagno, "Dropped (Welcome To The System)" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:23:44 -0600 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Covers Update LOL Beijing will never be the same! On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:56 AM, wrote: > The > Circle Game, you are dead meat.> > > Well, you can bet that I'll be on the lookout. Or maybe Big Rerro Taxi. > > Bob > > NP: Built To Spill, "Mess With Time" > > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:40:48 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) ... followed by static. That was a sure sign that it was time for everyone to go to sleep. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mags > To: joni@smoe.org; Robert Procyk > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 2:05:09 PM > Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) > > as I wrote to someone else off list, I do not recall ever hearing a close off >prayer..the idea is so strange to me. I do recall the oh Canada sign off, always >loved that ;-) > > Mags ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:39:27 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) That's what I remember too from when I was a kid growing up in the Ottawa Valley, where we had only ONE TV station. (My childhood was more deprived than yours, ha ha! But then again, I'm older than you too, so that was probably the norm unless you lived in the big city.) I sort of remember my mother having the radio on sometimes and they would sometimes have religious-type shows on, playing hymns and so on. Maybe there would be prayers too. I don't know for sure because I'd take off like a bat outta hell when I heard the intro music playing. It also sort of reminds me of scenes from "O brother, where art thou?" That was the 30s in the deep south. I imagine that many Bible-belt areas had religious programs and could include a "sign-off prayer." FYI, I think they still say "the Lord's Prayer" at the opening of the Ontario legislature, although there have been attempts to take it out. I betcha they still do it in many places. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Robert Procyk > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:20:37 PM > Subject: sign off prayer (njc) > > When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY American > t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network > television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we moved > and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off > shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the > Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they played "Oh > Canada". > > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:51:49 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) But what is Breakfast Barney? Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless - -----Original message----- From: Catherine McKay To: Robert Procyk , joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 19:47:42 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) That's what I remember too from when I was a kid growing up in the Ottawa Valley, where we had only ONE TV station. (My childhood was more deprived than yours, ha ha! But then again, I'm older than you too, so that was probably the norm unless you lived in the big city.) I sort of remember my mother having the radio on sometimes and they would sometimes have religious-type shows on, playing hymns and so on. Maybe there would be prayers too. I don't know for sure because I'd take off like a bat outta hell when I heard the intro music playing. It also sort of reminds me of scenes from "O brother, where art thou?" That was the 30s in the deep south. I imagine that many Bible-belt areas had religious programs and could include a "sign-off prayer." FYI, I think they still say "the Lord's Prayer" at the opening of the Ontario legislature, although there have been attempts to take it out. I betcha they still do it in many places. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Robert Procyk > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:20:37 PM > Subject: sign off prayer (njc) > > When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY American > t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network > television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we moved > and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off > shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the > Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they played "Oh > Canada". > > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:50:16 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sign off prayer When "Joni" accepts my "friend" request on Facebook, I'm going to ask her! Just realized we've been sending these posts marked njc and it's definitely jc, so I took off the njc. I wonder if Joni was referring to something Saskatchewanian, or if it related more to the time she wrote the song? Maybe something she listened to on her hejira across the US, for example. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Richard Flynn > To: Catherine McKay ; Robert Procyk ; >joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 2:51:49 PM > Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) > > But what is Breakfast Barney? > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Catherine McKay > To: Robert Procyk , joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 19:47:42 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) > > That's what I remember too from when I was a kid growing up in the Ottawa > Valley, where we had only ONE TV station. (My childhood was more deprived > than > yours, ha ha! But then again, I'm older than you too, so that was probably > the > norm unless you lived in the big city.) > > I sort of remember my mother having the radio on sometimes and they would > sometimes have religious-type shows on, playing hymns and so on. Maybe there > > would be prayers too. I don't know for sure because I'd take off like a bat > > outta hell when I heard the intro music playing. > > It also sort of reminds me of scenes from "O brother, where art thou?" That > was > the 30s in the deep south. I imagine that many Bible-belt areas had > religious > programs and could include a "sign-off prayer." > > FYI, I think they still say "the Lord's Prayer" at the opening of the > Ontario > legislature, although there have been attempts to take it out. I betcha they > > still do it in many places. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Robert Procyk > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:20:37 PM > > Subject: sign off prayer (njc) > > > > When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY American > > t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network > > television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we moved > > and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off > > shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the > > Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they played "Oh > > Canada". > > > > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:58:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lc Stanley Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) Here in dixie in the 1970's radio stations would sign off with a general prayer, something like "We thank the Creator for another day" and then they'd play the national anthem and then there was silence. I remember shouting at the radio when it happened on my way home from partying. Tapes solved that problem. No religious radio for the walls in our house; my mom listened to Lum and Abner on the radio in the mornings. ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Robert Procyk ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:39:27 PM Subject: Re: sign off prayer (njc) That's what I remember too from when I was a kid growing up in the Ottawa Valley, where we had only ONE TV station. (My childhood was more deprived than yours, ha ha! But then again, I'm older than you too, so that was probably the norm unless you lived in the big city.) I sort of remember my mother having the radio on sometimes and they would sometimes have religious-type shows on, playing hymns and so on. Maybe there would be prayers too. I don't know for sure because I'd take off like a bat outta hell when I heard the intro music playing. It also sort of reminds me of scenes from "O brother, where art thou?" That was the 30s in the deep south. I imagine that many Bible-belt areas had religious programs and could include a "sign-off prayer." FYI, I think they still say "the Lord's Prayer" at the opening of the Ontario legislature, although there have been attempts to take it out. I betcha they still do it in many places. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Robert Procyk > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:20:37 PM > Subject: sign off prayer (njc) > > When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY American > t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network > television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we moved > and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off > shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the > Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they played "Oh > Canada". > > Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:53:03 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sign off prayer Tweren't me! I believe it was a friend, relative or acquaintance of Ms Patti Parlette but they won't tell her either. Whoever it is, is very good at sitting on secrets where honour is at stake. So far, I believe, Patti is "Joni's" one and only friend. I guess that would make her her BFF. I'm jealous, I tell ya! In the meantime, I'm thinking of questions, both deep and superficial, that I plan to ask "Joni" when (and I do say "when," not "if") she befriends me. Things like, "What's your favourite colour?" and "Did you mean "notches" or "nachos?" - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: Catherine McKay ; Richard Flynn >; Robert Procyk ; "joni@smoe.org" > > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 3:55:05 PM > Subject: RE: sign off prayer > > OK, fess up, who created the page that looks like Joni is on facebook. I know >it was one of you!!! (I'm waiting for Joni to friend me, too!) sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:54:13 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: sign off prayer LOL! - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:53 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; Richard Flynn; Robert Procyk; joni@smoe.org Cc: Patti Parlette Subject: Re: sign off prayer Tweren't me! I believe it was a friend, relative or acquaintance of Ms Patti Parlette but they won't tell her either. Whoever it is, is very good at sitting on secrets where honour is at stake. So far, I believe, Patti is "Joni's" one and only friend. I guess that would make her her BFF. I'm jealous, I tell ya! In the meantime, I'm thinking of questions, both deep and superficial, that I plan to ask "Joni" when (and I do say "when," not "if") she befriends me. Things like, "What's your favourite colour?" and "Did you mean "notches" or "nachos?" - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: Catherine McKay ; Richard Flynn >; Robert Procyk ; "joni@smoe.org" > > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 3:55:05 PM > Subject: RE: sign off prayer > > OK, fess up, who created the page that looks like Joni is on facebook. I know >it was one of you!!! (I'm waiting for Joni to friend me, too!) sue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:27:07 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: sign off prayer >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Robert Procyk >>> To: joni@smoe.org >>> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 12:20:37 PM >>> Subject: sign off prayer (njc) >>> >>> When I moved to Saskatchewan in late 1981, we didn't have ANY >>> American >>> t.v. here, which was a horrid culture shock, as I grew up on network >>> television that didn't ever sign off. Imagine my shock when we >>> moved >>> and the crappy 2 Canadian stations we received here would sign off >>> shortly after midnight. I remember the CBC would play "God Save the >>> Queen" at sign-off. At sign-on in the morning, I think they >>> played "Oh >>> Canada". >>> >>> Rob To clarify: it's not that we didn't have American TV shows. Most shows were American. But we didn't have American networks. We had CBC and CTV, likely. CBC for sure. The worst thing about having only two channels was that they'd both have hockey games on, on Saturday nights. Blech. Kate http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:29:23 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: sign off prayer On 17-Feb-11, at 3:53 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: >> OK, fess up, who created the page that looks like Joni is on >> facebook. I know >> it was one of you!!! (I'm waiting for Joni to friend me, too!) sue Joni's gonna surprise us all and get on FB one of these days, mark my words. It wouldn't surprise me one whit. Just like a lot of us, whose kids or friends sign us up and show us the ropes, and then we find ourselves liking and using this thing that we were sure we'd have no use for. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:59:35 -0500 From: TERRY COOK Subject: which album? i think the only reason one would EVER even bother to give a joni mitchell album to anyone is in hopes that the recipient would love it. i'm just imagining that i have never heard a joni mitchell album....god forbid.... i would NOT want to receive one of the several compilations. i have so enjoyed moving through joni's distinctly different phases with her. i don't think i'd "get" the intensity/beauty/excitement of it all if several periods were heaped on me at the same time. i vote for blue. it's a bit intense for a newcomer perhaps, but if the person "gets" it, they've received an utter bounty of riches. if the person doesn't "get it," then the person probably/possibly never would..... and what a gift it will be if it IS appreciated and devoured. then, there'll be the opportunity to head off into another adventure with another album. oh, how i'd love to experience those albums for the first time all over again.... each one is such a distinct treasure. tcook - ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:10 Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #50 To: joni-digest@smoe.org > > JMDL Digest Thursday, > February 17 2011 Volume 2011 > : Number 050 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Joni > Mitchell ["gene" ] > jonimitchell.com vs. > jimmywebb.com [] > Which > album? [Michel BYRNE ] > Re: Which > album? [Lc Stanley ] > Re: Joni > Mitchell [Gerald Notaro ] > Re: Joni > Mitchell [Em ] > Re: Joni > Mitchell [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: Which > album? [Michael Flaherty ] > Re: Which > album? [Michael Paz ] > Re: Which > album? [Merk54@aol.com] > Re: Which > album? [Gerald Notaro ] > Sign off > prayer [LC Stanley ] > Fwd: [judy-collins] Review of first night Cafe > Carlyle [Gerald Notaro RE: Sign off > prayer [Susan Tierney McNamara ] > Re: Joni > Mitchell ["Mark" ] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:43:33 -0800 > From: "gene" > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > "For the Roses"~~~gene > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; "JMDL" > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:33 PM > Subject: Joni Mitchell > > > > "Blue". Next question, please. > > > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > > >>Which Joni album should I give my friend who has none?> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:03:58 -0800 > From: > Subject: jonimitchell.com vs. jimmywebb.com > > Hi Mark, > > Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about Jimmy's web site > the other > night while trying to find lyrics to one of his more obscure > songs. Only > managed to find a snippet of the song submitted by Kenny Rankin > on his own > website a few years ago. > > I've been following the Webb site almost as long as the Joni > sites and, while > it has evolved a bit over the years, it has always been pretty > sparse as far > as historical information, lyrics, etc. My feeling from > following it all > these years is that Jimmy is very self-protective of his stuff > out there. He > has spoken a few times in interviews, etc. of being "ripped off" by > questionable characters when he was first starting out. > Also, the discussion > list there seems highly moderated. I think that is kind of > a loss to his fans > and followers but seems to be the way he wants it. > > We're real spoiled here in comparision ;-) > > Kakki > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:01:29 +0000 > From: Michel BYRNE > Subject: Which album? > > Hi Laura, I initially agreed with Bob that Dreamland was your > best bet, but > then remembered that the versions of 'Amelia' and 'For the > Roses' are the > tedious, overblown orchestral ones from 2002. Sorry, some people > may well love > them, but IMO it would be a tragedy for someone to hear Amelia > for the first > time in that version. (Tragedy's a bit strong, I know...) > Another great compilation (the best IMO) is Songs of a Prairie > Girl, but > Paprika Plains might be a bit much for a 'first timer'... The > track list is: > Urge for Going > Tea Leaf Prophecy ('She says I'm leaving now but she don't go' - great > sequencing!) > Cherokee Louise (orchestral - gorgeous!) > Rays' Dad's Cadillac > Let the Wind Carry me > Don Juan's Reckless Daughter > Raised on Robbery > Paprika Plains > Song for Sharon > River > Chinese Cafe > Harlem in Havana > Come in from the Cold > > Otherwise, if it has to be one original album, I'd probably go > for 'Court & > Spark' - easy to listen to, a sense of the folky Joni and the > jazzy Joni - or, > as Marian recommends, 'For the Roses'. Brilliant as they are, > Hejira or Blue > are more of an acquired taste... > > Or, make your own compilation - one song from each album. Time > consuming, but > fun. > Regards > Michel > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:58:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Lc Stanley > Subject: Re: Which album? > > Thanks Michel and all who have answered so thoughtfully. > > When you said Court and Spark, as did Cassy, I thought yes... > that would be > good, but then I felt I'd like to give her something deeper than > radio-style > Joni. My friend is very introspective. Dreamland was > sounding good, but I > agree with you about the 2002 versions. > > Thanks for suggesting Songs of a Prairie Girl. My only > hesitation is with the > rape in Cherokee Louise. My friend is a rape victim. > So far though, I'm > leaning toward Songs of a Prairie Girl. > > Love, > Laura > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michel BYRNE > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 6:01:29 AM > Subject: Which album? > > Hi Laura, I initially agreed with Bob that Dreamland was your > best bet, but > then remembered that the versions of 'Amelia' and 'For the > Roses' are the > tedious, overblown orchestral ones from 2002. Sorry, some people > may well love > them, but IMO it would be a tragedy for someone to hear Amelia > for the first > time in that version. (Tragedy's a bit strong, I know...) > Another great compilation (the best IMO) is Songs of a Prairie > Girl, but > Paprika Plains might be a bit much for a 'first timer'... The > track list is: > Urge for Going > Tea Leaf Prophecy ('She says I'm leaving now but she don't go' - great > sequencing!) > Cherokee Louise (orchestral - gorgeous!) > Rays' Dad's Cadillac > Let the Wind Carry me > Don Juan's Reckless Daughter > Raised on Robbery > Paprika Plains > Song for Sharon > River > Chinese Cafe > Harlem in Havana > Come in from the Cold > > Otherwise, if it has to be one original album, I'd probably go > for 'Court & > Spark' - easy to listen to, a sense of the folky Joni and the > jazzy Joni - or, > as Marian recommends, 'For the Roses'. Brilliant as they are, > Hejira or Blue > are more of an acquired taste... > > Or, make your own compilation - one song from each album. Time > consuming, but > fun. > Regards > Michel > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:06:22 -0500 > From: Gerald Notaro > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > I vote For the Roses, but that is no surprise :-) > One of my treasures from this list is the Live compilation of > all of the > songs from From the Roses that Bob Muller put together for me. > > Jerry > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:43 PM, gene wrote: > > > "For the Roses"~~~gene > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" > > To: > ; "JMDL" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:33 PM > > Subject: Joni Mitchell > > > > > > "Blue". Next question, please. > >> > >> Jim L'Hommedieu > >> > >> Which Joni album should I give my friend who has none?> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Em > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > It depends on the friend. > If the person is shallow and superficial and prefers chopped > liver to steak, > then give them one of the early-mid 80's albums. > ha! (bet that's gonna piss some people off) > I'm just kidding (kinda). > :P > Em > > > - --- On Tue, 2/15/11, gene wrote: > > From: gene > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > To: "Jim" , > sillyseabird7@yahoo.com, "JMDL" > > Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 9:43 PM > > "For the Roses"~~~gene > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; "JMDL" > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:33 PM > Subject: Joni Mitchell > > > > "Blue". Next question, please. > > > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > > >>Which Joni album should I give my friend who has none?> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:53:25 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > > > Of course you're exactly right, Em. It's like me asking you > where I should > take my friend for dinner. Without knowing my friend's tastes, > how can you > make a recommendation? Every year I make musical compilations > for my > sisters - used to be cassettes, which took forever, and now it's > CD's > which get made much more quickly but still take time in terms of > considerations of what I know about their likes and dislikes. > Kind of a > clunky Pandora/Netflix genome kind of thing. Having said that, > the best > solution is to make your own based on what you know about your > friend - > like Laura said, Cherokee Louise would be much too painful an > inclusion. > That's why I said Dreamland - it's a real everything-but-the- > kitchen sink > kind of thing; so is SOAPGirl and also would be a good choice. > Misses > falls into the same category although it too ignores Joni's > earliest work. > Hits on the other hand skips most of Joni's later career. The > Beginning of > Survival is not recommended for ANYONE, particularly if they > have suicidal > tendencies. (Not to mention the dreaded GHOUL hand on the cover). > > To give a person a single album (Blue, FTR, C&S, Hejira) would > be like > giving them a box of chocolate-covered cherries as opposed to a > Whitman's > sampler - if they love chocolate-covered cherries they'll be > disappointed > when they find out that boxed chocolates have much more variety > and not > what they were expecting, and if they don't they won't delve any > farther. > For someone to not be able to discover the enormous density of > Joni's > music because they don't care for the stark feel of Blue would > be tragic. > > This logic doesn't necessarily hold true with a lot of artists. > But in > terms of Joni, with her career arc and diversity, the only and > best > introduction is a cross-section that displays the spectrum of > her work. > > Bob > > NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Buttholeville/State Trooper (live)" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged > material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, > please > contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the > company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 07:29:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Michael Flaherty > Subject: Re: Which album? > > It depends on the friend. If S/He likes the stripped down > singer-songwriter > thing, I'd say Blue. More pop/rock: Court and Spark. > Jazzier: HOSL or Hejira. > More experimental: DJRD. > > All just IMO, of course. > > Michael F. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:49:53 -0600 > From: Michael Paz > Subject: Re: Which album? > > They all shouls just be assimilated once and for all and FTR all > the way > baby!!! > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Michael Flaherty wrote: > > It depends on the friend. If S/He likes the stripped down > singer-songwriter > thing, I'd say Blue. More pop/rock: Court and Spark. > Jazzier: HOSL or > Hejira. > More experimental: DJRD. > > All just IMO, of course. > > Michael F. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:56:26 EST > From: Merk54@aol.com > Subject: Re: Which album? > > Let's not forget the live albums - Miles of Aisles and Shadows > and Light > are both great at exposing someone to Joni's range and of course > they contain > a broad mix of her classic material, not to mention some > very great > supporting musicians. > > Counting the days to the first day of spring when I can do my > annual Miles > of Aisles Drive Around. First beautiful day of the new > season, MOA in the > CD player, top down on the car, driving through the > countryside! No better > way to greet the new season. > > Jack > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:23:37 -0500 > From: Gerald Notaro > Subject: Re: Which album? > > Come to Florida. We do the Miles of Aisles drive around all year > round :-) > > Jerry > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:56 AM, wrote: > > > Let's not forget the live albums - Miles of Aisles and Shadows > and Light > > are both great at exposing someone to Joni's range and of > course they > > contain > > a broad mix of her classic material, not to mention some > very great > > supporting musicians. > > > > Counting the days to the first day of spring when I can do my > annual Miles > > of Aisles Drive Around. First beautiful day of the new > season, MOA in the > > CD player, top down on the car, driving through the > countryside! No better > > way to greet the new season. > > > > Jack > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:38:48 -0600 > From: LC Stanley > Subject: Sign off prayer > > I'm listening to For The Roses trying to decide which album to > give my friend, and from Breakfast Barney to the sign off prayer > catches my attention. I remember hearing the sign off > prayer and being disappointed the radio station was suddenly > quiet. The darkness of the night was some how honored by > the silence though. Anybody remember hearing the sign off > prayer? > Love, > Laura > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:53:19 -0500 > From: Gerald Notaro > Subject: Fwd: [judy-collins] Review of first night Cafe Carlyle > > Wow. A surprise appearance Glen Hansard. And how classy of her > to mention > George Shearing > > Jerry > > > - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > An Evening with Judy Collins > Reviewed By: Brian Scott Lipton 7 Feb 16, 2011 7 New York  > > Few performers seem as truly comfortable on stage, or can make > an audience > feel as comfortable, as Judy Collins doesas was clearly > evidenced by the > legendary pop-folk singers opening night of An Evening with > Judy Collins, > her now-annual engagement at the Cafi Carlyle that has become > something of a > religious pilgrimage for her admirers. > > What makes Collins show so sui generis is the pairing of her > brilliantmusicality with her anything-might-happen approach. She > consistentlyinterrupts a train of thought to embrace a tangent > or deliver a snippet or > verse of a beloved tune; shell riff on a recent event, like the > GrammyAwards or the passing of Sir George Shearing. > > If youre really lucky, shell pull a proverbial rabbit out of a > hatwhich,on opening night, meant a surprise appearance by Oscar- > winningsinger-songwriter Glen Hansard (of Once fame), whom she > apparently met just > a few days ago at a music festival. > > Be warned, she can be a bit of a tease; she sang some ofbut not > allofLeonard Cohens Suzanne as gorgeously as she did nearly > five decades ago, > but not even a note of Suite: Judy Blue Eyes or Both Sides > Now, even > after bringing them up in conversation. > > Still, what songs she chose to treat the crowd to were sparkling > gems, each > displaying another facet of her fascinating musical personality. > The ilan of > Joni Mitchells Chelsea Morning, gave way to John Denvers > Country Road > (Take Me Home) paired with a not-so-somber Leavin on a Jet > Plane. Later > on, a stunning version of Bob Dylans Mr. Tambourine Man (one > of the many > singalongs) was slyly paired with a brilliant take on Joan > Baezs Diamonds > and Rust, a razor-sharp dissection of the pairs love affair. > > And its not her contemporaries who bring out the best in > Collins; she can > sing anything or anyone with equal assurance: Jacques Brels > Marieke (one > of three of the masters tunes performed in sequence); John > Lennon and Paul > McCartneys Norwegian Wood, Stephen Sondheims I Remember > and Send In > the Clowns and Harold Arlen and Yip Harburgs Over the > Rainbow were just > some of the carefully chosen songs enlightened by her > crystalline voice and > interpretive magic. > > And yet, theres nothing quite like Collins singing Collinseven > if on > opening night, she only did two of her classics: the gorgeous > Since You > Asked and her epic tune The Blizzardabout a woman facing the > end of a > love affair amid a massive snowstormwhich she performs with an almost > unfathomable mixture of pathos and defiance. > > > > new photograph at: > http://www.theatermania.com/new-york/reviews/02-2011/an-evening- > with-judy-col > lins_34106.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:40:15 -0500 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: Sign off prayer > > I remember when I was a kid hearing the white noise of the TV > when my parents fell asleep without turning it off. I usually > remember them singing the Star Spangled Banner before > signoff. Maybe the prayer is a Canadian thing? > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of LC Stanley > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:39 PM > To: jonilist JMDL > Subject: Sign off prayer > > I'm listening to For The Roses trying to decide which album to > give my friend, and from Breakfast Barney to the sign off prayer > catches my attention. I remember hearing the sign off > prayer and being disappointed the radio station was suddenly > quiet. The darkness of the night was some how honored by > the silence though. Anybody remember hearing the sign off > prayer? > Love, > Laura > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:53:01 -0800 > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > Hmm...I seem to remember a lot kvetching about those compilation > cds when > they first started coming out. > > Mark in Seattle > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:53 AM > To: Em > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > > > Of course you're exactly right, Em. It's like me asking you > where I should > take my friend for dinner. Without knowing my friend's tastes, > how can you > make a recommendation? Every year I make musical compilations > for my > sisters - used to be cassettes, which took forever, and now it's CD's > which get made much more quickly but still take time in terms of > considerations of what I know about their likes and dislikes. > Kind of a > clunky Pandora/Netflix genome kind of thing. Having said that, > the best > solution is to make your own based on what you know about your > friend - > like Laura said, Cherokee Louise would be much too painful an > inclusion. > That's why I said Dreamland - it's a real everything-but-the- > kitchen sink > kind of thing; so is SOAPGirl and also would be a good choice. Misses > falls into the same category although it too ignores Joni's > earliest work. > Hits on the other hand skips most of Joni's later career. The > Beginning of > Survival is not recommended for ANYONE, particularly if they > have suicidal > tendencies. (Not to mention the dreaded GHOUL hand on the cover). > > To give a person a single album (Blue, FTR, C&S, Hejira) would > be like > giving them a box of chocolate-covered cherries as opposed to a > Whitman'ssampler - if they love chocolate-covered cherries > they'll be disappointed > when they find out that boxed chocolates have much more variety > and not > what they were expecting, and if they don't they won't delve any > farther.For someone to not be able to discover the enormous > density of Joni's > music because they don't care for the stark feel of Blue would > be tragic. > > This logic doesn't necessarily hold true with a lot of artists. > But in > terms of Joni, with her career arc and diversity, the only and best > introduction is a cross-section that displays the spectrum of > her work. > > Bob > > NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Buttholeville/State Trooper (live)" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2011 #50 > **************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:59:05 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Norma Rae njc Lol! One of my favorite movies. Norma: 'Reuben. You need a woman!' Reuben: 'You're right. Tonight's the night!' Norma: 'Well! What would Dorothy say?' Reuben: (as he walks out the door) 'Wear a rubber.' Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: T Peckham Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:19 AM To: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Cc: Mark ; Em ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Norma Rae (Sally Field) to Reuben Warashovski (sp?) (Ron Leibman): Ka-vetch, ka-vetch, ka-vetch! :-P Watchin' it from the wings, Terra On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:14 AM, wrote: > > they first started coming out.> > > Hey, don't get me wrong - I had no use for them then and still don't. I > saw/see them as an attempt to foist her more unpopular recordings on an > unreceptive public. NONE of them are in my collection and won't be unless > someone gives me one. But for Laura's purposes, they're not a bad way to > think about introducing someone to the spectrum of Joni's sound. > > Bob > > NP: Gregg Cagno, "Dropped (Welcome To The System)" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 02:18:50 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell I agree with Jim, definitely Blue, no doubt about it. GARRET On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Jim wrote: > "Blue". Next question, please. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > Which Joni album should I give my friend who has none?> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:05:36 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Three Throats Title: Three Throats Publication: Windsor Star Date: 1978.2.0 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2350 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:08:49 -0600 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Norma Rae njc Mine too! I was hopin' to getcha with that one. It immediately came to mind, what with all the activity happening here in Madtown, WI. ;-) Terra On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Mark wrote: > Lol! One of my favorite movies. > > Norma: 'Reuben. You need a woman!' > Reuben: 'You're right. Tonight's the night!' > Norma: 'Well! What would Dorothy say?' > Reuben: (as he walks out the door) 'Wear a rubber.' > > Mark in Seattle > -----Original Message----- From: T Peckham > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:19 AM > To: Bob.Muller@fluor.com > Cc: Mark ; Em ; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell > > Norma Rae (Sally Field) to Reuben Warashovski (sp?) (Ron Leibman): > Ka-vetch, > ka-vetch, ka-vetch! > :-P > > Watchin' it from the wings, > Terra > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:14 AM, wrote: > > > >> they first started coming out.> >> >> Hey, don't get me wrong - I had no use for them then and still don't. I >> saw/see them as an attempt to foist her more unpopular recordings on an >> unreceptive public. NONE of them are in my collection and won't be unless >> someone gives me one. But for Laura's purposes, they're not a bad way to >> think about introducing someone to the spectrum of Joni's sound. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: Gregg Cagno, "Dropped (Welcome To The System)" >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> > > -- > "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." > ---Louise Bourgeois > > > - -- "An artist can show things that other people are terrified of expressing." - ---Louise Bourgeois ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #51 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------