From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2011 #43 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jmdl.com JMDL Digest Thursday, February 10 2011 Volume 2011 : Number 043 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Stream of my (sub) consciousness - part..? [Mike Pritchard ] Re: My new favourite song ever NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: My new favourite song ever NJC [Dave Blackburn ] Re: My new favourite song ever NJC [Dave Blackburn ] RE: i ching (njc) [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: My new favourite song ever NJC [Catherine McKay ] Joni's Jazz NJC [David Marine ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:52:56 +0100 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: RE: Stream of my (sub) consciousness - part..? Beautiful, Mark. It was a golden age for television drama when we had 'The Jewel in The Crown' and 'Brideshead Revisited' on British tv almost simultaneously, different channels, though, I think. I was a bookseller in those days and sold a lot of these two (five?; TJITC was a tetrology) titles at the holiday camps where I was sent to sell books. What the folks wanted was Wilbur Smith, Catherine Cookson and other, topical titles like "All Creatures Great and Small". What they got was Paul Scott, Evelyn Waugh and a lot of George Orwell. My attempt to bring culture to the beaches of north Wales. mike in barcelona np Jim Hal & Pat Metheny - "Falling Grace" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 05:23:01 -0700 From: "Marian" Subject: something to try for Morgellons =?UTF-8?Q?sufferers=3F?= If anyone is in touch with Joni or people who know her, please pass on the following links to her: Message from Jim Humble about the background:http://www.miraclemineral.org/authormessage.php< /div> New protocols: http://jimhumble.biz/ Jim Humble's website (with free ebook): http://www.miraclemineral.org MMS newsletter (including back issues): http://www.mmsnews.org/ Test imonials: http://www.healthsalon.or g/mms-testimonials/ Marian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:16:40 +0000 From: Azeem Ali Khan Subject: My new favourite song ever NJC Some of you will have had your ear bent by my relentless plugging of Brighton-based band the Mummers a couple of years. Well, I'm here to tell you all that their new 6 song mini-album Mink Hollow Road [deliberate nod to Todd Rundgren] has appeared, and the opening song, Call Me A Rainbow, is so bloody good that it might well be dispensed by pharmacies as a cure for depression. It's just beautiful on every level: Raissa's utterly uncynical lyric, her plangent vocal, the exquisite melody, the lustrous arrangement. It's that good, really. I hope the following link works for those not in the UK. It's to a very interesting piece in the Guardian about the band and the recent tragedy that befell them; and best of all it has free streaming of the first album and a few of the songs from the new one. Call Me A Rainbow is song 11. You can thank me later... http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road Best, Azeem in London NP: The Mummers - Lorca and The Orange Tree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:28:50 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC Very Old School, reminds me of Nellie McKay's Normal As Blueberry Pie. I like it. Jerry On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Azeem Ali Khan wrote: > Some of you will have had your ear bent by my relentless plugging of > Brighton-based band the Mummers a couple of years. Well, I'm here to tell > you all that their new 6 song mini-album Mink Hollow Road [deliberate nod > to > Todd Rundgren] has appeared, and the opening song, Call Me A Rainbow, is so > bloody good that it might well be dispensed by pharmacies as a cure for > depression. It's just beautiful on every level: Raissa's utterly uncynical > lyric, her plangent vocal, the exquisite melody, the lustrous arrangement. > It's that good, really. > > I hope the following link works for those not in the UK. It's to a very > interesting piece in the Guardian about the band and the recent tragedy > that > befell them; and best of all it has free streaming of the first album and a > few of the songs from the new one. Call Me A Rainbow is song 11. You can > thank me later... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road > > Best, > > Azeem in London > NP: The Mummers - Lorca and The Orange Tree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:24:28 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC Nice tune! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Feb 9, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Azeem Ali Khan wrote: Some of you will have had your ear bent by my relentless plugging of Brighton-based band the Mummers a couple of years. Well, I'm here to tell you all that their new 6 song mini-album Mink Hollow Road [deliberate nod to Todd Rundgren] has appeared, and the opening song, Call Me A Rainbow, is so bloody good that it might well be dispensed by pharmacies as a cure for depression. It's just beautiful on every level: Raissa's utterly uncynical lyric, her plangent vocal, the exquisite melody, the lustrous arrangement. It's that good, really. I hope the following link works for those not in the UK. It's to a very interesting piece in the Guardian about the band and the recent tragedy that befell them; and best of all it has free streaming of the first album and a few of the songs from the new one. Call Me A Rainbow is song 11. You can thank me later... http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road Best, Azeem in London NP: The Mummers - Lorca and The Orange Tree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:50:48 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC I'm THANKING YOU Azeem! And downloading Tale to Tell from iTunes as I write. I'm sure the cover art is gorgeous but the files will have to do. We were just lamenting the almost total absence of melody in today's pop music in a Facebook thread, and then there's this, the exception that proves the rule. I thought Bjvrk was the only Romanticist left but Raissa certainly is one. I'll download Mink Hollow Road as soon as it becomes available. It's not on iTunes US yet. Ah, a melody, musicians who can play, a singer who can sing; what kind of pop IS that? Dave Dave Blackburn Audio Production Services http://www.daveblackburn.com/ On Feb 9, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Azeem Ali Khan wrote: > Some of you will have had your ear bent by my relentless plugging of > Brighton-based band the Mummers a couple of years. Well, I'm here to tell > you all that their new 6 song mini-album Mink Hollow Road [deliberate nod to > Todd Rundgren] has appeared, and the opening song, Call Me A Rainbow, is so > bloody good that it might well be dispensed by pharmacies as a cure for > depression. It's just beautiful on every level: Raissa's utterly uncynical > lyric, her plangent vocal, the exquisite melody, the lustrous arrangement. > It's that good, really. > > I hope the following link works for those not in the UK. It's to a very > interesting piece in the Guardian about the band and the recent tragedy that > befell them; and best of all it has free streaming of the first album and a > few of the songs from the new one. Call Me A Rainbow is song 11. You can > thank me later... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road > > Best, > > Azeem in London > NP: The Mummers - Lorca and The Orange Tree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:17:45 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC Azeem, you're never wrong when it comes to good music. That's a lovely song and I'll listen to the others later. And what a tragic story behind this band. I hope the album does well. The singer sounds kind of like Bjork to me. I hope that's not a deterrent to some. I happen to like Bjork quite a bit! The EP is available on Itunes Canada. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Azeem Ali Khan > To: jmdl > Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 8:16:40 AM > Subject: My new favourite song ever NJC > > Some of you will have had your ear bent by my relentless plugging of > Brighton-based band the Mummers a couple of years. Well, I'm here to tell > you all that their new 6 song mini-album Mink Hollow Road [deliberate nod to > Todd Rundgren] has appeared, and the opening song, Call Me A Rainbow, is so > bloody good that it might well be dispensed by pharmacies as a cure for > depression. It's just beautiful on every level: Raissa's utterly uncynical > lyric, her plangent vocal, the exquisite melody, the lustrous arrangement. > It's that good, really. > > I hope the following link works for those not in the UK. It's to a very > interesting piece in the Guardian about the band and the recent tragedy that > befell them; and best of all it has free streaming of the first album and a > few of the songs from the new one. Call Me A Rainbow is song 11. You can > thank me later... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jan/20/mummers-mink-hollow-road > > Best, > > Azeem in London > NP: The Mummers - Lorca and The Orange Tree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:33:52 +0000 From: Azeem Ali Khan Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC I agree about the Bjork connection Catherine - the way I'd put it, though, is that if you "like the idea of Bjork" (ie respect her originality and admire the arrangements, sonic inventiveness etc), but aren't so keen on the actual records (ie not enough tunes the milkman could whistle), The Mummers may be just right for you. It must be added, though, even if you can't stand Bjork, you might still like the Mummers! Azeem in London On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Azeem, you're never wrong when it comes to good music. That's a lovely song > and > I'll listen to the others later. > > And what a tragic story behind this band. > > I hope the album does well. The singer sounds kind of like Bjork to me. I > hope > that's not a deterrent to some. I happen to like Bjork quite a bit! > > The EP is available on Itunes Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:04:08 -0500 From: David Phillips Subject: Re: i ching (njc) Thanks for the responses. I use mostly use coins and the wilhelm translation, generally consulting the oracle as part of my daily meditation. I back off when it tells me to shut up and listen to what it's already told me. I try to ask very open questions about how to approach, or what to remember during, the day ahead. I love the meditation of the coin toss, and frankly scoff at suggestions for quick and easy hexagram generation. I like the Wilhelm translation: it's just obscure enough to keep me intrigued while making (usually) some kind of visceral or conceptual or image-y sense. I do have a hard time with the references to gender and family and governmental roles. I just often don't know what to do with images of wives and ministers and princes. My jungian analyst suggests that i try to make sense of them (and of the i ching in general) "inter-psychicly", and i'm game for that. I also use Karcher's "total i ching" which is kind of an every-which-way approach to the connections, connotations, inferences, tones, and nuances in the hexagrams. Cleary's "taoist i ching" has a great intro on yin/yang, perseverance, furthering, success, etc. The intro and the discussion of the first two hexagrams are wonderful, but throughout there is a overlay of inferiority onto the yin that to me stinks of misogyny. Only once, many many years ago, did i take any kind of formal instruction - a 2 day workshop with Paul Gallagher. I think he lives in north carolina now. It was great. I've been in touch with Steve Karcher, and he has offered to do some online one on one instruction with me, but that doesn't sit right just now. So, that's what this particular set of time and change is touching. I guess. djp Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I have been studying the I Ching for over a decade and it was something I dived into not knowing that Joni was a devotee! (I promise!) I love the I Ching for the balance it brings in my life. The two books that I used most are "A Guide to the I Ching" by Carol K. Anthony (a great book for emotional balance) and The Laws of Change: I Ching and the Philosophy of Life by Jack Balkin. I think the Balkin book is my favorite ... It does a great job of distilling the Wilhelm translation into a more contemporary guide. I also use the I Ching Workbook R. L. Wing because it has a separate discussion for when you receive a hexagram with no changing lines. > > This morning's reading was a question about my best attitude at work and I receive Hex 8 Union, changing lines 5 and 6 changing to Hex 23 Splitting Apart ... hmmm ominous! :-) > > Great topic!! Take care, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David Phillips > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:51 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: i ching (njc) > > I've been consulting the oracle off and on over the years, but lately > i've been wanting to make a more disciplined connection to the i ching. > i figured this list is as good as any for finding like (or > complementary) souls. > > i'd be real pleased if anyone would like to share their experiences with > the i ching. did you have a teacher? who? are there translations or > published guides you found particularly helpful? > > i'm sure that there are i ching lists somewhere, but this is just so > joni i had to start here. > > djp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:13:33 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC Personally I love everything about Bjork. I think she's the most original artist in pop/rock since Captain Beefheart, and that's saying something. Her mother appararently played a lot of show music around the house and Bjork gained a love of sweeping orchestration and harps as a result. By combining that with sampling and a very creative muse she arrived at her sound. Raissa, it sounds like, may have similar influences. I can't wait to get Mink Hollow Road. I am also a Todd fan, and always thought Fade Away was a classic song. I'd love to be able to read the liner notes and in particular learn how much of the orchestration is actual and how much is MIDI. If you have the CD booklet Azeem perhaps you'd consider scanning it for me. Thanks Dave On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Azeem Ali Khan wrote: > I agree about the Bjork connection Catherine - the way I'd put it, though, > is that if you "like the idea of Bjork" (ie respect her originality and > admire the arrangements, sonic inventiveness etc), but aren't so keen on the > actual records (ie not enough tunes the milkman could whistle), The Mummers > may be just right for you. It must be added, though, even if you can't stand > Bjork, you might still like the Mummers! > > Azeem in London > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > >> Azeem, you're never wrong when it comes to good music. That's a lovely song >> and >> I'll listen to the others later. >> >> And what a tragic story behind this band. >> >> I hope the album does well. The singer sounds kind of like Bjork to me. I >> hope >> that's not a deterrent to some. I happen to like Bjork quite a bit! >> >> The EP is available on Itunes Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:27:13 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC As much as Bjork is regarded as offbeat and alternative, I think her style of singing is distinctly a heavy influence in many contemporary young singers. Joni has spoken highly of her and her individualistic style. Jerry On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Personally I love everything about Bjork. I think she's the most original > artist in pop/rock since Captain Beefheart, and that's saying something. Her > mother appararently played a lot of show music around the house and Bjork > gained a love of sweeping orchestration and harps as a result. By combining > that with sampling and a very creative muse she arrived at her sound. > Raissa, it sounds like, may have similar influences. I can't wait to get > Mink Hollow Road. I am also a Todd fan, and always thought Fade Away was a > classic song. > > I'd love to be able to read the liner notes and in particular learn how > much of the orchestration is actual and how much is MIDI. If you have the CD > booklet Azeem perhaps you'd consider scanning it for me. > > Thanks > Dave > > > > On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Azeem Ali Khan wrote: > > > I agree about the Bjork connection Catherine - the way I'd put it, > though, > > is that if you "like the idea of Bjork" (ie respect her originality and > > admire the arrangements, sonic inventiveness etc), but aren't so keen on > the > > actual records (ie not enough tunes the milkman could whistle), The > Mummers > > may be just right for you. It must be added, though, even if you can't > stand > > Bjork, you might still like the Mummers! > > > > Azeem in London > > > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Catherine McKay >wrote: > > > >> Azeem, you're never wrong when it comes to good music. That's a lovely > song > >> and > >> I'll listen to the others later. > >> > >> And what a tragic story behind this band. > >> > >> I hope the album does well. The singer sounds kind of like Bjork to me. > I > >> hope > >> that's not a deterrent to some. I happen to like Bjork quite a bit! > >> > >> The EP is available on Itunes Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:45:53 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: i ching (njc) David, I have my own way of distilling the patriarchal approach. Obedience and devotion are kind of old school but I still think these attributes have a place in the world. I've given the lines my own distinction, 1=child/beginner, 2=general/caretaker, 3=rebel/devil, 4=minister/official, 5=leader/ruler, and 6=sage/holy one. I think this helps me to personify the lines with actions ... if that makes sense. We're only particles of change ... :-) Sue - -----Original Message----- From: David Phillips [mailto:djp@djpnet.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:04 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: i ching (njc) Thanks for the responses. I use mostly use coins and the wilhelm translation, generally consulting the oracle as part of my daily meditation. I back off when it tells me to shut up and listen to what it's already told me. I try to ask very open questions about how to approach, or what to remember during, the day ahead. I love the meditation of the coin toss, and frankly scoff at suggestions for quick and easy hexagram generation. I like the Wilhelm translation: it's just obscure enough to keep me intrigued while making (usually) some kind of visceral or conceptual or image-y sense. I do have a hard time with the references to gender and family and governmental roles. I just often don't know what to do with images of wives and ministers and princes. My jungian analyst suggests that i try to make sense of them (and of the i ching in general) "inter-psychicly", and i'm game for that. I also use Karcher's "total i ching" which is kind of an every-which-way approach to the connections, connotations, inferences, tones, and nuances in the hexagrams. Cleary's "taoist i ching" has a great intro on yin/yang, perseverance, furthering, success, etc. The intro and the discussion of the first two hexagrams are wonderful, but throughout there is a overlay of inferiority onto the yin that to me stinks of misogyny. Only once, many many years ago, did i take any kind of formal instruction - a 2 day workshop with Paul Gallagher. I think he lives in north carolina now. It was great. I've been in touch with Steve Karcher, and he has offered to do some online one on one instruction with me, but that doesn't sit right just now. So, that's what this particular set of time and change is touching. I guess. djp Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I have been studying the I Ching for over a decade and it was something I dived into not knowing that Joni was a devotee! (I promise!) I love the I Ching for the balance it brings in my life. The two books that I used most are "A Guide to the I Ching" by Carol K. Anthony (a great book for emotional balance) and The Laws of Change: I Ching and the Philosophy of Life by Jack Balkin. I think the Balkin book is my favorite ... It does a great job of distilling the Wilhelm translation into a more contemporary guide. I also use the I Ching Workbook R. L. Wing because it has a separate discussion for when you receive a hexagram with no changing lines. > > This morning's reading was a question about my best attitude at work and I receive Hex 8 Union, changing lines 5 and 6 changing to Hex 23 Splitting Apart ... hmmm ominous! :-) > > Great topic!! Take care, Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David Phillips > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:51 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: i ching (njc) > > I've been consulting the oracle off and on over the years, but lately > i've been wanting to make a more disciplined connection to the i ching. > i figured this list is as good as any for finding like (or > complementary) souls. > > i'd be real pleased if anyone would like to share their experiences with > the i ching. did you have a teacher? who? are there translations or > published guides you found particularly helpful? > > i'm sure that there are i ching lists somewhere, but this is just so > joni i had to start here. > > djp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:48:08 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC Strangely enough, I understand exactly what you're talking about! - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Azeem Ali Khan > To: Catherine McKay > Cc: jmdl > Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 1:33:52 PM > Subject: Re: My new favourite song ever NJC > > I agree about the Bjork connection Catherine - the way I'd put it, though, > is that if you "like the idea of Bjork" (ie respect her originality and > admire the arrangements, sonic inventiveness etc), but aren't so keen on the > actual records (ie not enough tunes the milkman could whistle), The Mummers > may be just right for you. It must be added, though, even if you can't stand > Bjork, you might still like the Mummers! > > Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:41:05 EST From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Reminder - Vote for Lewisburg,WV for America's Coolest Small Town Just a reminder to my friends to continue to VOTE FOR LEWISBURG, WV as AMERICA'S COOLEST SMALL TOWN in Budget Travel Magazine. The competition ends this Friday, Feb. 11th at 1pm EST. You can vote every 5 hours and every vote is important. LEWISBURG is in the lead but we need your help to make sure we win. _http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-srv/coolestsmalltowns/CST2011.html_ (http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-srv/coolestsmalltowns/CST2011.html) Please help.... it only takes a few seconds.Go to the Budget Travel site above, Click on the Lewisburg,WV star, click add to ballot, click vote and you're done. Thanks so much for all your help. We're almost there. Pearl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:57:34 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: re:You Tube- Christine Ohlman singing Joni Mitchell's "Clouds" This is a wonderful cover of Joni's song by Christine Ohlman. I loved it, that voice is amazing and she sings it beautifully. Thanks for posting it. Regards, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:51:49 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Is Joni just ice? I went down to the mini Portrait Gallery on The Rideau Canal Skateway today. It was -10C/14F with a strong wind, which is more than a little chilly by my standards. Actually, it was %$@#* freezing! The portrait is the same as shown on the Gallery website, about three feet high. http://tinyurl.com/63xdpxp I know the photos I've attached won't show up on the List, so if anyone wants to re-post them somewhere else, go ahead. Doug [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 2011Feb09 030a.jpg] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 2011Feb09 039a.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:09:12 -0800 From: David Marine Subject: Joni's Jazz NJC Hey List, it's amazing to me how fast everyone mobilized for Joni's Jazz. I thought I would point out, for those interested, that the following night at the bowl there will be a performance of Beethoven's 9th, widely regarded as the only musical experience that might have some hope of equalling THOSL. I plan on back-to-back concerts, and thought some might want to consider the same. Best, David ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2011 #43 **************************** ------- To post messages to the list, send to joni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------