From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #345 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 19 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 345 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE:keith richards quote [Darice ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc ["Mark" ] Diary of a mad Joni Mitchell fan ["Mark" ] Re: Movie Talk - njc ["Mark" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc [Anita G ] Movie Talk - njc [Gerald Notaro ] RE: acoustic jazz guitar NJC [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Walter Payton has passed (NJC) [Jim ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:07:33 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Darice Subject: RE:keith richards quote reminds me of a recently found Frank Zappa quote- "If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:16:06 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc - -----Original Message----- From: Lieve Reckers Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:55 AM To: Anita G Cc: Mags ; Warrenkeith91354@aol.com ; Gerald Notaro ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc You're completely right, Anita, it was Imelda Staunton, and yes she was amazing. I was just so annoyed that her appearance was left at that and did not lead to anything further. Hi Lieve, Imelda Staunton gave a devastating performance in another Mike Leigh film, 'Vera Drake'. She plays the title character and although the entire cast is excellent, she really carries the movie, imo. I'm not going to go into the plot but this movie packs a punch and raises a lot of questions about a very controversial subject. I haven't seen this latest movie. I didn't even know there was a new Mike Leigh movie. I really enjoyed 'Secrets & Lies'. 'Topsy-Turvy', the one about Gilbert & Sullivan writing 'The Mikado' was beautifully made but I found myself getting bored with it after awhile. A bit too long I guess. But beautiful production. And I'm afraid that's the extent of Mike Leigh films I have seen. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:36:29 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Diary of a mad Joni Mitchell fan Tonight I walked up First Hill from downtown Seattle to my shrink appointment (yes, I do see a fisakeeatrist, as I believe Ricky Ricardo once said, which I'm sure comes as no surprise to anybody). It was pretty chilly with a steady wind blowing and the walk is about 10 blocks, mostly all uphill. No singing on that particular leg of my journey home. Coming back down to catch the bus in the bus tunnel downtown, I entertained myself with (what else?) 'Twisted'. No-brainer there (or maybe 2 brainer?). The weather came back into my mind when I got off the bus so it was 'Urge For Going' walking home. I segued to 'The Tea Leaf Prophecy' - I get the urge for going but I never seem to go/She says I'm leaving her but she don't go - but only had time for one verse. That one also fit somewhat with the book I had just started reading on the bus, Paul Scott's 'The Division of the Spoils'. That is the 4th book in Scott's Raj Quartet (his full name is Paul Mark Scott, btw) which the mini-series 'The Jewel in the Crown' was based on. The very beginning of the novel gives a brief sketch of the political situation in India between the defeat of Germany and the surrender of Japan in WWII. Study war no more....Hiroshima cannot be pardoned. Mark in Seattle (who has ridden on the top of a 'Big Bus' double-decker tour bus in London in spite of the fact that there was no driver on the top) Where is Patti Parlette these days??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:53:52 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Movie Talk - njc - -----Original Message----- From: Lieve Reckers Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:35 AM To: Gerald Notaro Cc: Anita G ; Mags ; Warrenkeith91354@aol.com ; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Movie Talk - njc It did quite well, I think, Jerry. At least, it got attention in the press etc and was also shown on TV. I think it must have done modestly well in the cinemas. It was a nice little film, especially written for its main acress Jane Horrocks. She did shine in that film, but has over the last years been getting seriously on my nerves with her silly Tesco adverts on TV. The way her accent and way of speaking is exploited and exaggerated in those ads makes my skin crawl. But she always cracked me up as Bubble on 'AbFab', Sweetie Darling. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:46:17 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc On 17 November 2010 12:58, Lieve Reckers wrote: > I felt that the WAY in > which this was presented in Anther Year was rather superficial and did not > really lead to any further insight. For me, there was an uncomfortable mirror, not least the counsellor but also the 'happily contented' couple, but hopefully not being 'smug.' > And what was, for goodness sake, the point of an actress of the calibre of > Brendy Blethyn completely grabbing our attention in the first 5 minutes or > so with her portrayal of a very intriguing, unhappy woman, to then never to > reappear in the story? Wasn't it Imelda Staunton? I'm not sure now, but she was brilliant. In fact the whole scene was very,very real. When Gerry did the 'on the scale of one to ten' I wanted to crawl under my seat. This movie made a real impact on me and the last Mike Leigh movie about that cheery girl left me cold. I also noticed, dear Lieve, that the movie 'Burke and Hare' was also showing. I wouldn't EVER throw rotten eggs at you, but I don't forget I have the photos of you as an extra in that film!!!! Lots of love Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:04:45 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Movie Talk - njc Love all this movie talk. One thing I like almost as much as Joni. Speaking of Brenda Blethyn, Little Voice is one of my favorite movies. I always have it on my iPhone. No one has even heard of it over here. How did it do Great Britain? Jerry NO: Great Mandella on WMNF - Thinking of you, Wily Pearl! On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Lieve Reckers wrote: > Hi Anita! > Thanks very much for your take on Another Year. I really hope Mags and > anybody else who sees it will enjoy it like you did, of course! > Knowing I couldn't possibly spoil it for anyone who is meant to enjoy it > (just the way we are wired, I suppose!) I will just perversely explain one > more time in explaining why I was disappointed by the film! :-) > Of course, I recognised the real-life issues presented in the film, such as > the passage of time and loneliness, and I was fine with that (i.e. I don't > always need to be cheered up by a film!) but I felt that the WAY in > which this was presented in Anther Year was rather superficial and did not > really lead to any further insight. I could literally see and feel Lesley > Manville's acting and over-long improvising going on. It felt to me like we > just saw a few portraits of people with problems and a few portraits of > rather smugly "happy/contented" people, and to be honest I know enough > people in my own life that I can observe with more insight than this film > gave me. > And what was, for goodness sake, the point of an actress of the calibre of > Brendy Blethyn completely grabbing our attention in the first 5 minutes or > so with her portrayal of a very intriguing, unhappy woman, to then never to > reappear in the story? I would rather have focused on her for the rest of > the film, than on the flaky types we got instead! > > Anyway, that is just my own disappointed reaction. I wish everybody else > who sees it a lot of enjoyment and/or deep insight! > Lieve > > PS To just continue a little longer in my mischievous rant, I sometimes > wonder whether people are so keen to see films that are not > Hollywood-produced, that they feel they must appreciate films made > elsewhere, even if (or maybe exactly because) the seams are showing and the > links are clunky... (OK, I will duck now because I can feel the rotten eggs > come flying my way...) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anita G > *To:* Lieve Reckers > *Cc:* Mags ; Warrenkeith91354@aol.com; Gerald > Notaro ; joni@smoe.org > *Sent:* Wed, 17 November, 2010 10:57:36 > *Subject:* Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #316 njc > > Hi Lieve > We must be walking parallel paths, as I went and saw both films last > week. 'The Kids are Alright' was most interesting and I think what you > say about both looking at what it is to be part of a family > (or,indeed, to not feel part of a family) applies to both movies. > > Unlike you, dear Lieve, I simply loved 'Another Year', although > definately not one to go and see if you need cheering up. I thought it > had so much to say, probably in the OTT grotesques that sometimes > inhabit Mike Leigh films, about the nature of the passing of time, of > isolation and how we connect with each other (or don't connect). As > someone who has worked as a counsellor and supervisor of counsellors > for over 20 years, I found the relationship between the seeming > adequate counsellor, Gerry, and her alcoholic and seemingly inadequate > colleague/friend Mary excruciating to watch. The therapeutic > platitudes and exercising of boundaries when confronted with Mary's > terrifying isolation rang so very true to me. My toes were curling > over watching. It really was quite unbearable. Steph and I saw the > film completely differently, so it led to lots of discussion, which is > all good. > > I found Another Year film multi-layered and I'd say see it,Mags, if you > can! > Anit x > > On 14 November 2010 18:21, Lieve Reckers wrote: > > Hi Mags! I just saw that movie, Another Year, at my local cinema. I > must say > > that I compared it with "The Kids are Alright", because both deal with > family > > life in the broader sense, and I must say it came out of that comparison > the > > much weaker one. It seemed it was just based on an idea of a number of > > characters, and they were allowed to do their party piece in terms of > acting > > and > > improvising, but there were so many loose threads (interesting characters > > appearing and never showing up again) that I felt the film really never > had > > anything to say, apart from some rather shallow and predictable stuff. > It > > seemed to me like the "naturalness" and "unglamorousness" were parading > and > > covering up for "nothing-much-to-say-ness". Even the acting and > improvised > > dialogues felt unreal and sketchy at times. It really made me want to go > and > > see "The Kids are Alright" one more time! > > > > Lieve in London > > ________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:27:30 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: acoustic jazz guitar NJC Ooops. Mike beat me to the punch here!!! Thanks Mike!! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mike Pritchard Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:06 AM To: list Subject: Re: acoustic jazz guitar NJC And then there is John McLaughlins wonderful homage to Bill Evans compositions, entitled Time Remembered. Worth a listen, imho. mike in Barcelona np Eddy Grant  Gimme Hope, Joanna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:16:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Subject: Re: Walter Payton has passed (NJC) Hey Mike, just catching up on the list and so sorry to hear about Walter passing. What a loss! He gave us all such fond memories. He will be missed dearly. Hope you have been doing well. Jim PS. Came across this Tribute to Walter and for those that didn't know him, it will give you a glimpse of what a Saint and great entertainer he was. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hTfBWg0beE And it really hits home with the last three words he says in the video. I got a knot in my stomach when the video ended. And it is always great to hear one of my highlights of Paz Fest II, Charlie Gabriel, and the rest of the gang. - --- On Thu, 10/28/10, Michael Paz wrote: > From: Michael Paz > Subject: Walter Payton has passed (NJC) > To: "Joni Mitchell" > Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 1:52 PM > I am so sad to report that my dear > friend and band mate Walter Payton passed > away a little while ago. He was a wonderful person and his > friendship meant > the world to me. Heaven as got a much bigger bottom now and > the angels are > blessed to have him amongst them. So long old friend. > > Paz > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #345 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------