From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #331 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 5 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 331 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time [Catherine McKay ] Re: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni [Lieve Reckers ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:27:37 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time You know, I know where you are coming from, Bob and Catherine, but I went to an Umphreys McGee concert at a "rodeo club" (that's what I call it when the dance floor looks like a corral and you need to stake claim to your square foot early!) and despite the fact that I was solo and probably older than most of their mothers, a really cute drunk guy came over to me and asked me the classic "Hey, haven't we met before?" Damn that was fine! Hahahahahahaha!! Plus Umphreys guitar player, Jake Cinninger, melted my face off!!! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:04 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: Jim; JMDL Subject: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time Ditto to all of that, Catherine. And I'm not going to even get into the whole CELL PHONE discussion again...the whole time texting people, making crappy videos or taking crappy photos to post on YouTube/Facebook/whatever. They leave and don't even know if they enjoyed the show because they didn't experience it. And while we're ticking off reasons why crowded club shows suck most of the time, why does the frizzy-haired girl always stand DIRECTLY in front of me and INSIST on trying to dance even though she only has 1 square foot of space? Ptoo, ptoo, trying to get her hair out of my face and keep her from landing on my toes... hang on a second (opening front door) "Hey you kids, get offa my lawn! Grumpy Old Bob NP: Herbie Hancock, "Tempo de Amor" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:27:54 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: Michel,Lieve,Em Michel, thanks a stack for your response to my anti-feminism email.....it was reassuring and makes sense (if not completely: to me not identifying as feminist is alas not forgivable), but Ibve taken a look and I donbt have those albums (thob I am sure I did have them at some stage...maybe my best friend sold them AS WELL!..(.yes, I had a deceitful, lying and stealing best friend but I suspect she was nevertheless someone the bible refers to as ban angel attended, unbeknownstb)...I am going to look out for those albums.....strangely they are just about all missing from my collection, and Ibd like to pay particular attention to the roles of the men and women and jonibs observations...Maybe joni is far too much of an individual to refer to any intellectual activity outside of her own brain!!!!...That is quite charming, and i do find her charming most of the times, when being interviewed.....especially her appreciation of her own antenna-like awareness! Oh well, Joni is ultimately forgivable...hey I just wonder how her objection to being seen as a superhuman fits into all of this??...she seems to think that she has been revered and uplifted to a a ridiculous extent...Hmmm, I do wonder...I donbt think I would have objected to being seen as a phenomenon....: how can Joni not have an inner sense of her own sacredness......maybe she is aware that everything is?...oh, well,...the mysteries of individuality... Lieve, I am distressed for you at no-one responding to your movie experience: it seems like it would be such a nice conjuring up of joni magic for the bblueb to have been the pivotal piece, plus the daughter named joni.....I have thought of joni writing that song blue with a blue-eyed daughter in mind....it all seems quite romantic....And I might just look for that movie next time I take out a dvd...on your recommendation (of course I may side with lesbians about that one part of the story). I recall , by the way, reading an excerp here on JMDL, and have searched back but it mustbve been before loading my new operating system) of Joni, presumably, writing a piece about dark or intense emotions involving her daughter....there was something suggestive of passion about it....dare i say it (or did she?)...It would be great to see that writing again. (Here I am encouraged by Janis Ianbs words band I spit in the eye of safe companyb). Em, I thought you might have just been voicing what I think about CDbs generally: that their depth of sound is not as evocative as one got on a record...But when i mentioned this to someone before they basically said that the whole of Europe thinks like this (that 50% of sales there were still vinyl)...Maybe Ibm just displaying ignorance here, of that and of your email, but what I am quite sure of is that I prefer the sound on vinyl and tape to that of a cd, any cd. And thatbs it. Ingrid ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time Ha ha - I can understand why you were happy to be there. I think I could handle that too and I wouldn't give a rat's arse if the guy was drunk because, these days, any kind of compliment should be taken at face value and no questions asked (i.e., you do not want to find out that one of your kids was in kindergarten with him and that he remembers you as So-and-So's mother.) I've gone to a fair number of concerts where I think I'll be the oldest one there and I always look around the room for old people - and of course I'm happy when I spot one, especially one that looks older than me. I really wish I could have stayed at that Wilco concert but I couldn't handle the smell! - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" ; Catherine McKay > > Cc: Jim ; JMDL > Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 2:27:37 PM > Subject: RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time > > You know, I know where you are coming from, Bob and Catherine, but I went to an >Umphreys McGee concert at a "rodeo club" (that's what I call it when the dance >floor looks like a corral and you need to stake claim to your square foot >early!) and despite the fact that I was solo and probably older than most of >their mothers, a really cute drunk guy came over to me and asked me the classic >"Hey, haven't we met before?" Damn that was fine! Hahahahahahaha!! Plus >Umphreys guitar player, Jake Cinninger, melted my face off!!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:27:15 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time At everyone of these concerts I always spy a grey ponytail or two! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:27 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Jim; JMDL Subject: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time Ha ha - I can understand why you were happy to be there. I think I could handle that too and I wouldn't give a rat's arse if the guy was drunk because, these days, any kind of compliment should be taken at face value and no questions asked (i.e., you do not want to find out that one of your kids was in kindergarten with him and that he remembers you as So-and-So's mother.) I've gone to a fair number of concerts where I think I'll be the oldest one there and I always look around the room for old people - and of course I'm happy when I spot one, especially one that looks older than me. I really wish I could have stayed at that Wilco concert but I couldn't handle the smell! - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" ; Catherine McKay > > Cc: Jim ; JMDL > Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 2:27:37 PM > Subject: RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time > > You know, I know where you are coming from, Bob and Catherine, but I went to an >Umphreys McGee concert at a "rodeo club" (that's what I call it when the dance >floor looks like a corral and you need to stake claim to your square foot >early!) and despite the fact that I was solo and probably older than most of >their mothers, a really cute drunk guy came over to me and asked me the classic >"Hey, haven't we met before?" Damn that was fine! Hahahahahahaha!! Plus >Umphreys guitar player, Jake Cinninger, melted my face off!!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time I think I'm the only person in my unit at work right now that doesn't have a blackberry and I'm afraid my boss will decide I need one. No thanks. I want a life and if I were in charge here, I'd tell people to just cool it and set some priorities and limits. And I dream of a desert island or a cabin in the woods with no phones 'til Friday. I find a lot of the younger generation (my daughter being a prime example) have no patience for anything and will just keep nagging and bugging and want instant answers for everything and they seem to treat everything with equal urgency. This kid will call me and, if I don't answer, instead of leaving a message, she'll call again and again and again, thinking that eventually I'll answer. As well, she seems to think that I know absolutely everything, despite my reminders to her that I'm not an encyclopedia and there's this nifty little thing called google that has answers for everything. > >From: Anne Sandstrom >To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca >Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 3:27:37 PM >Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time > >The last concert I went to was SO civilized and the venue so wonderful, I can't >complain. > >BUT, as for the eejits who text anywhere/everywhere, I've about had it. It's now >illegal here to text while driving. Duh! > > >Wasn't life better when we weren't all so "connected?" I like to be where I am, >not virtually somewhere else. (although I do listen to my iPod at work >sometimes, because the alternative is to listen to Russian all day long - >'nother story...) > >Guess I'm just another crank. "Get down off of there!" > >lots of love, >Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time Damn right. It's always a ponytail. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > To: Catherine McKay ; "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > > Cc: Jim ; JMDL > Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 4:27:15 PM > Subject: RE: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time > > At everyone of these concerts I always spy a grey ponytail or two! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time I guess I need to chime in on the cranky thread here as I sure do feel cranky these days! I do not own a cell phone and *gasp* I barely know how to use one. I do not understand why folks need to talk on their phones in front of, beside, behind etc. Bad form! J has one for business purposes and even he loathes the danged thing. lol! as for clubs, one club that we go to on a rare occasion, (only if friends are playing there) ... well, the situation is such that you have to get there pre 9 pm or you will not get a decent table..not that they have that many to begin with but still. THing is, if you don't get a table near the front (which then means it's so LOUD you can't hear yourself think, you end up having to stand all night and these old bones just don't want to do that anymoh! ha! anyhoo, I guess the one good thing about being cranky is that you don't want to "take it" anymore, for example, I just saved myself 70 bucks on a bill that came in and was charged for services I no longer have. Ditched the tv back in June! Barg and narg. is mercury in retrograde??? because there sure as heck seems like something is going on ...lots of death and loss and all sorts of sordid bargness. Now, what other list could you throw some frustration out to and have your cherished readers sigh and nod with an oh yea, I hear ya baby, I know it well. Mags, who does cherish this list and most of the spaces between ;--) - --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time To: anne@sandstrom.com Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com, joni@smoe.org Received: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 5:04 PM I think I'm the only person in my unit at work right now that doesn't have a blackberry and I'm afraid my boss will decide I need one. No thanks. I want a life and if I were in charge here, I'd tell people to just cool it and set some priorities and limits. And I dream of a desert island or a cabin in the woods with no phones 'til Friday. I find a lot of the younger generation (my daughter being a prime example) have no patience for anything and will just keep nagging and bugging and want instant answers for everything and they seem to treat everything with equal urgency. This kid will call me and, if I don't answer, instead of leaving a message, she'll call again and again and again, thinking that eventually I'll answer. As well, she seems to think that I know absolutely everything, despite my reminders to her that I'm not an encyclopedia and there's this nifty little thing called google that has answers for everything. > >From: Anne Sandstrom >To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca >Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 3:27:37 PM >Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time > >The last concert I went to was SO civilized and the venue so wonderful, I can't >complain. > >BUT, as for the eejits who text anywhere/everywhere, I've about had it. It's now >illegal here to text while driving. Duh! > > >Wasn't life better when we weren't all so "connected?" I like to be where I am, >not virtually somewhere else. (although I do listen to my iPod at work >sometimes, because the alternative is to listen to Russian all day long - >'nother story...) > >Guess I'm just another crank. "Get down off of there!" > >lots of love, >Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time Probably just the changing of the seasons...here in SC the warm weather is officially over, and dealing with leaves is on. Got that Urge For Going...I'd like to call back summertime. Lucky for me I have my friends and the music to keep my spirits high! Bob NP: John Legend & The Roots, "Little Ghetto Boy" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC Why club shows suck most of the time not that this is earth shattering or anything but I felt I need to add this as a ps to my cranky rant about the club that J and I s ometimes go to..the drag with us having to be there pre 9 pm is that the music doesnt usually start until 1030/11 pm...and we are too old and cranky to put up with that anymore lol! > At everyone of these concerts I always spy a grey ponytail or two! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:41:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni If y'all remember, last month's Covers collection featured all of the Charlie Dee covers, and Sue and Lindsay, you may remember listening to it as we wound our way to the SoCal Fest last year. Anyway, Joni sent Charlie a copy of Night Ride Home with a nice note. Needless to say, Charlie was blown away. Here's a picture: http://tinyurl.com/33vw4ko Bob NP: The Apples In Stereo, "No Vacation" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 23:19:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni Bob, why does it look like the note is written to someone called "Renee"??? - ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Muller To: JMDL Sent: Thu, 4 November, 2010 22:41:33 Subject: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni If y'all remember, last month's Covers collection featured all of the Charlie Dee covers, and Sue and Lindsay, you may remember listening to it as we wound our way to the SoCal Fest last year. Anyway, Joni sent Charlie a copy of Night Ride Home with a nice note. Needless to say, Charlie was blown away. Here's a picture: http://tinyurl.com/33vw4ko Bob NP: The Apples In Stereo, "No Vacation" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni I was just about to ask the same. - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Lieve Reckers > To: Bob Muller ; JMDL > Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 7:19:26 PM > Subject: Re: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni > > Bob, why does it look like the note is written to someone called "Renee"??? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bob Muller > To: JMDL > Sent: Thu, 4 November, 2010 22:41:33 > Subject: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni > > If y'all remember, last month's Covers collection featured all of the Charlie > Dee covers, and Sue and Lindsay, you may remember listening to it as we wound > our way to the SoCal Fest last year. Anyway, Joni sent Charlie a copy of Night > > Ride Home with a nice note. Needless to say, Charlie was blown away. > > Here's a picture: > > http://tinyurl.com/33vw4ko > > Bob > > NP: The Apples In Stereo, "No Vacation" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 00:16:32 +0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Charlie Dee gets a note from Joni Jealous. That's all I can say. On 4 November 2010 22:41, Bob Muller wrote: > If y'all remember, last month's Covers collection featured all of the > Charlie > Dee covers, and Sue and Lindsay, you may remember listening to it as we > wound > our way to the SoCal Fest last year. Anyway, Joni sent Charlie a copy of > Night > Ride Home with a nice note. Needless to say, Charlie was blown away. > > Here's a picture: > > http://tinyurl.com/33vw4ko > > Bob > > NP: The Apples In Stereo, "No Vacation" > - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/yapqx3j Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://www.voices.com/people/jamiezooby acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/965489410181 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 Website: http://www.jamiezubairi.com Randomly Related Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:50:02 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Huge Joni reference in film "The Kids are Alright" Here's what I posted back in January: - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:09:00 -0500 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni mention in LA Times Wednesday's LA Times had an article on "The Kids Are All Right" (no, not the Who biopic), a movie that is attracting attention at Sundance. It stars Annette Bening and Julianne Moore as a lesbian couple who have a daughter named Joni. It included this: "Was the Library Center screening - audiences actually applauded when Bening's character recited lyrics to a Joni Mitchell song - a false barometer of the film's real potential outside Park City?" *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA President, FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jlamadoo@sbcglobal.net Subject: more shawn colvin, njc Last night I watched a you tube version of shawn colvin's song, "Polaroids". The repetition in that song stayed with me most of the day today. I talking about the music that repeats when she's singing "Please no more therapy. / Mother take care of me." It totally sticks in my head! Here's a version of "Diamond In The Rough" and I think Larry Klien is playing bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C13urVMYBw Jim L. PS, I enjoy your grouchy posts, Catherine. Rock on. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:20:59 -0500 From: "Rose, John R." Subject: Joni Birthday Feature Monday On Internet Radio I will be celebrating Joni's 67th next week by playing lots of her music on my show Monday, 12-4 PM CST at http://uicradio.org/ . You can request your favorite songs by emailing me at rose60612@yahoo.com . I hope you can join me! John Rose ps--I'm also featuring Neil Young for his 65th next week. http://www.myspace.com/rose60612 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: I love the flower girl!, njc My friend Scot who came to Pazfest with me was at another festival in Covington near N.O. recently and saw Susan Cowsill who sang BSN at Pazfest. He was talking about Pazfest, and a guy walked up to him and it was the guitarist who played on Tea Leaf Prophesy!!! I love the flower girl!!!!! Listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af3YxYmldbM&feature=player_embedded Susan Cowsill told Scot they were the family the Brady Bunch was modeled after, and they were asked to play the kids' roles, but they declined because their mother couldn't play the mom part since Shirley Jones was already contracted. Life is full of good surprises!!! Love, Laura ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #331 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------