From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #286 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 25 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 286 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- CS&N working on new album of covers (njc, so far) [Paul Castle ] [none] [Ann ] Re: Joni worst rhymes - how about best lines? [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Bread&Roses&Joni [Mark Domyancich ] Testing 1, 2 njc [Jim ] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [Mags ] Re: njc cleaning out my closet [Mags ] RE: Testing 1, 2 njc [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [FMYFL@aol.com] NJC 1 year ago today [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Testing 1, 2 njc [Catherine McKay ] last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks [Les Irvin ] RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [] RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [] RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [Su] Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:41:28 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: CS&N working on new album of covers (njc, so far) Just found this on The Guardian's website - http://bit.ly/bV7PDY > Crosby, Stills and Nash are "about one-third" through their > first album in more than 10 years, an LP of classic-rock > covers. Under the guidance of rock guru Rick Rubin, the > folk-country icons are revisiting songs including the Beatles' > Norwegian Wood, the Rolling Stones' Ruby Tuesday and > Bob Dylan's Girl from the North Country. > Other covers versions on the album include Tim Hardin's > Reason to Believe, Jackson Browne's Lives in the Balance, > James Taylor's You Can Close Your Eyes and the Grateful > Dead's Uncle John's Band. Yet there's no talk of Neil Young > rejoining the group  let alone a cover of Harvest or Comes > a Time. > But Young is co-operating with another Nash project, a live > album taken from Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's 1974 tour. very best to all PaulC NP Crosby Stills & Nash - Blackbird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Zvk9FPAtY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:28:14 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: Mark and mermaids and best lines Mark, the mermaid line in Dawntreader used to irritate me as well, as just a silly filler line. But I had second thoughts once I heard the song included on Travelogue. Just as the line about the baby now jumps out as a much heavier and moving lyric than i ever realised (knowing what we now know), I think the mermaid line carries much more meaning than I previously thought - it just seems so unlikely that late Joni would happily resurrect an early song unless she was 100% at ease with it. I think the line may have wry humour or irony, or even harsher, a kind of clear-eyed no-illusions criticism of her lover: he's invested all his fantasies of freedom in sailing, and that includes the fantasy of sexual freedom, a harim of temptresses waiting for him somewhere far out at sea (maybe an implication that he 'collects' lovers, and that she's aware of only being the latest in a long line of catches). The reality behind the illusion of sexual freedom is then expressed at the very end of the song (the baby). So there's a kind of imaginative, emotional logic after all. I don't know if you'll agree, but to me the line sits well with a series of other early Joni lyrics where her angelic delivery belies very dark sentiments and kind of puts you off the scent. The song's better served (I think) by the darker Travelogue version. Best lines/rhymes? I'd put just about every line of the Hejira album, most of DJRD (the song) - especially 'Behind my bolt-locked door/ the eagle and the serpent are at war in me, / the serpent fighting for blind desire, / the eagle for clarity'..etc. And many many others... :) Greetings to all from rain-sodden Edinburgh (which will also be hosting the Great Canadian Song-book some time soon). Michel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:52:27 -0400 From: Ann Subject: [none] http://www.iodd.hotxmed.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:12:07 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni worst rhymes - how about best lines? No, it needs no explanation, Chris but, it is a very powerful line. Joni always makes me thing and that's the greatest thing about her in my opinion. The greatest gift I get from her. That you can be intimate with many people yet still be left alone in a spiritual or emotional way. Thanks for bringing that line to our attention again. Mark. NP Personal Jesus - Depeche Mode ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: CS&N working on new album of covers (njc, so far) This may be interesting but too bad they're not working on any originals. With as much music as they have made individually, you'd think they'd be able to get together, forget the drama, and create more music together. - -M To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 4:41:28 AM Subject: CS&N working on new album of covers (njc, so far) Just found this on The Guardian's website - http://bit.ly/bV7PDY > Crosby, Stills and Nash are "about one-third" through their > first album in more than 10 years, an LP of classic-rock > covers. Under the guidance of rock guru Rick Rubin, the > folk-country icons are revisiting songs including the Beatles' > Norwegian Wood, the Rolling Stones' Ruby Tuesday and > Bob Dylan's Girl from the North Country. > Other covers versions on the album include Tim Hardin's > Reason to Believe, Jackson Browne's Lives in the Balance, > James Taylor's You Can Close Your Eyes and the Grateful > Dead's Uncle John's Band. Yet there's no talk of Neil Young > rejoining the group let alone a cover of Harvest or Comes > a Time. > But Young is co-operating with another Nash project, a live > album taken from Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's 1974 tour. very best to all PaulC NP Crosby Stills & Nash - Blackbird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Zvk9FPAtY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:16:21 +0100 From: Graham Foxcroft Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #266 Re: Great Canadian Songbook Dint forget Bruce Cockburn. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Sep 2010, at 08:00, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) wrote: > onlyJMDL Digest Friday, September 24 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 266 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Great Canadian songbook [Paul Ivice ] > Re: Joni worst rhymes - how about best lines? [Chris Marshall RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [Su] > RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [B] > Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [Ge] > RE: Tiny Joni Mention [Susan Tierney McNamara ] > RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [S] > Video addition in the Library: Comes Love [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] > Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... [] > Bread&Roses&Joni ["Randy Remote" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:41:39 -0400 > From: Paul Ivice > Subject: Great Canadian songbook > > Keith James performs a concert of The Great Canadian Song Book > Personal interpretations of the music of Joni Mitchell, Neil Young > and Leonard Cohen. > > > I'm not sure how you can call it the Great Canadian Song Book without Robbie > Robertson or Gordon Lightfoot being a part of the conversation. > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:38:01 +0100 > From: Chris Marshall > Subject: Re: Joni worst rhymes - how about best lines? > > The one that started it all off for me (in about 1995) was this: > > "just how close to the bone and the skin and the eyes and the lips you can get, and still feel so alone" > > From the first song on the first Joni album I ever bought, Hejira. Pretty sure it needs no explanation... > > - --Chris > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:28 -0400 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... > > Hi Mia, > > Well, the Complete book agrees with you, although they say the tuning is > EBEEBE Capo 5. My other criteria for determining (in my own mind) what tuning > Joni used is where she places the song in early gigs because ease of retuning > is always an issue. I've always played it according to Jared White's > transcription at the site, which works, but also makes the song easy to place > in an open D set. Although you could also say that it would work in your > tuning to move quickly to the Dawntreader tuning (DGDDAD). This is the point > where I'd like to pick up the phone and say, "Hey, Joan, can you give us the > goods?" :) > > Does anyone have access to old Joni sets that include IHAK to see which songs > she played in the same set? > > Thanks!!! And thanks again Mia for your great contributions to the > transcription database!! Sue > > > ___________________ > /___________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue Tierney || > || McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell > > > > From: mia _ [mailto:hvnphun16@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:03 PM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org > Subject: re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book > ... > > > Hi Sue, > > I haven't seen the songbook yet, but I'm curious - what is the weird E > tuning? > > A while back, I loaded my own transcription to the site for I Had a King. I > used the double dad tuning: DADDAD (but capo'd up). > > This seems to work better for me than the DADEAD tuning - the shapes are > easier to play, and it's easy to just glide your thumb over the strings. > > But I can't see playing the Midway in any other tuning. > > Thanks, > > Mia > > > > ********************************************** > > I've been trying to work through this book (which was leant to me by dear > > friend Walt Breen). I'm up to Blue and have only found two song tunings I > > grossly disagree with ... I Had A King and That Song About the Midway ... > > which coincidentally are in the same tuning DADEAD ... the author has them in > > a weird E tuning ... anyone else have issues with this? > > > > Thanks, Sue > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:41:07 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... > > songs > she played in the same set?> > > That's a good idea...it wasn't one she played a lot that I recall, but > I'll check when I get home and see what I have. > > Bob, laughing because he knows exactly what IHAK means. > > NP: Alana Davis, "Round & Around" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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I've always played it according to Jared White's >> transcription at the site, which works, but also makes the song easy to >> place >> in an open D set. Although you could also say that it would work in your >> tuning to move quickly to the Dawntreader tuning (DGDDAD). This is the >> point >> where I'd like to pick up the phone and say, "Hey, Joan, can you give us >> the >> goods?" :) >> >> Does anyone have access to old Joni sets that include IHAK to see which >> songs >> she played in the same set? >> >> Thanks!!! And thanks again Mia for your great contributions to the >> transcription database!! Sue >> >> >> ___________________ >> /___________________\ >> ||-------------------|| >> || Sue Tierney || >> || McNamara || >> || sem8@cornell.edu || >> ||___________________|| >> || O etch-a-sketch O || >> \___________________/ >> >> "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell >> >> >> >> From: mia _ [mailto:hvnphun16@hotmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:03 PM >> To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org >> Subject: re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book >> ... >> >> >> Hi Sue, >> >> I haven't seen the songbook yet, but I'm curious - what is the weird E >> tuning? >> >> A while back, I loaded my own transcription to the site for I Had a King. I >> used the double dad tuning: DADDAD (but capo'd up). >> >> This seems to work better for me than the DADEAD tuning - the shapes are >> easier to play, and it's easy to just glide your thumb over the strings. >> >> But I can't see playing the Midway in any other tuning. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mia >> >> >> >> ********************************************** >> >> I've been trying to work through this book (which was leant to me by dear >> >> friend Walt Breen). I'm up to Blue and have only found two song tunings I >> >> grossly disagree with ... I Had A King and That Song About the Midway ... >> >> which coincidentally are in the same tuning DADEAD ... the author has them >> in >> >> a weird E tuning ... anyone else have issues with this? >> >> >> >> Thanks, Sue > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:48:52 -0400 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: Tiny Joni Mention > > Monika, Any clue why she calls the album "Ithaca" since that is my hometown! Sue > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Monika Bogdanowicz > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:17 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Tiny Joni Mention > > Hey guys, > Paula Cole mentions Joni in this article: > http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/paula_cole_dawson_creek_saved_my_hrD9uoO7dEBbp5CwJeStVL > > Very tiny mention but still good to hear about Joni and see she is respected! > - -Mon > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:16:49 -0400 > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... > > Bob, laughing because he knows exactly what IHAK means. > > > Of course you do, covers birthday boy!! :) Have a great day! > > > - ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:24:59 -0600 (MDT) > From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com > Subject: Video addition in the Library: Comes Love > > Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: > > Comes Love - United Center - Chicago, Illinois 1998 > > View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=223 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... > > It sounds nasty. Sort of like a cat coughing up a hairball. Or my > brother-in-law first thing in the morning. > ________________________________ > From: Susan Tierney McNamara > > To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > Cc: mia _ > ; "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Thu, September > 23, 2010 10:16:49 AM > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete > sheet music book ... > > Bob, laughing because he knows exactly what IHAK means. > Of course you do, covers birthday boy!! :) Have a great day! > - ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:05:43 -0700 > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Bread&Roses&Joni > > The latest newsletter from the Bread & Roses organization has a pic of Joni > and Herbie as part of a blurb about an exhibition at the Marin History Museum > called "Marin Rocks", set to open "late fall". Marin area folks might want to > check it out. It says a panel in the exhibit will be dedicated to B&R, > highlighting the legendary, star-studded benefit concerts of the '70's, of > which Joni appeared in '78 & '79. > The pic, credited to Richard McCaffree, is better than this one, on the B&R > website: > http://www.breadandroses.org/images/stories/gallery/joni_herbie.jpg > The pic in the newsletter says it's from 1978, but I think that may be a > mistake. The one in this link is, for sure, the military uniform proves that. > I think the one in the newsletter may be from 1979. > The Joni audio from these shows has never surfaced, although other audio by > the other performers has. It's presumed that B&R has it languishing somewhere, > and I would guess Joni has it, too. > RR > > ------------------------------ > > End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #266 > ********************************* > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:06:32 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Great Canadian Songbook I agree that Bruce Cockburn and Gordon Lightfoot were glaring omissions. They are two of my top 10 songwriters. Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Graham Foxcroft Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:16 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #266 Re: Great Canadian Songbook Dint forget Bruce Cockburn. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Sep 2010, at 08:00, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) wrote: unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:01:18 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: Bread&Roses&Joni Not true. The audio for both the '78 and '79 shows has been around for quite some time. The '80 set is the one not circulating, which would be great to hear as that has the first live performance of Man To Man. Mark NP: Prince "Pink Cashmere" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:05:43 -0700 > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Bread&Roses&Joni > > The Joni audio from these shows has never surfaced, although other audio by > the other performers has. It's presumed that B&R has it languishing > somewhere, > and I would guess Joni has it, too. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Testing 1, 2 njc I've never posted before but have been lurking for a while so I'm curious about how these posts show up in my daily digest. First off, belated happy birthday Bob, hope you had a good one. And to my most adorable sweetheart in the UK, it doesn't matter how funky your posts' are formated, they're a treasure to read. Now, back to my curiousity -- I see when someone posts, usually the post they are replying to is generally repeated in their post and it is noted in the subject line. Is this done by the poster themselves via cut and paste or how does that work? Gentaman_Lurker Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:17:32 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Welcome Gent Jim. I prefer the single posts and then I have them go into a special folder and when I want a dose of JMDL I can read them in order and in real time if I want. The digest comes when it wants to and sometimes you just need to see some posts from friends. Have a good time here. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Jim wrote: I've never posted before but have been lurking for a while so I'm curious about how these posts show up in my daily digest. First off, belated happy birthday Bob, hope you had a good one. And to my most adorable sweetheart in the UK, it doesn't matter how funky your posts' are formated, they're a treasure to read. Now, back to my curiousity -- I see when someone posts, usually the post they are replying to is generally repeated in their post and it is noted in the subject line. Is this done by the poster themselves via cut and paste or how does that work? Gentaman_Lurker Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Welcome, Jim! I prefer the single posts too, but some people prefer digest. If you respond to a post, generally the text of the post you're responding to will automatically come in to your response. I suppose that could vary if your email program is set up differently. As well, the subject line will stay the same with "Re:" in front of it. If you don't want/need the entire post that you're responding to in your response, you can always edit out the parts that aren't relevant. In fact, if you're on digest and you respond to a post and bring in the entire digest, someone will probably yell at you (in writing, of course), so you'll probably only do that once. ________________________________ From: Michael Paz To: Jim Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 11:17:32 AM Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Welcome Gent Jim. I prefer the single posts and then I have them go into a special folder and when I want a dose of JMDL I can read them in order and in real time if I want. The digest comes when it wants to and sometimes you just need to see some posts from friends. Have a good time here. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Jim wrote: I've never posted before but have been lurking for a while so I'm curious about how these posts show up in my daily digest. First off, belated happy birthday Bob, hope you had a good one. And to my most adorable sweetheart in the UK, it doesn't matter how funky your posts' are formated, they're a treasure to read. Now, back to my curiousity -- I see when someone posts, usually the post they are replying to is generally repeated in their post and it is noted in the subject line. Is this done by the poster themselves via cut and paste or how does that work? Gentaman_Lurker Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc hi Jim and welcome to the fold....I prefer singles too, that way I can decide who I read lol! All kidding aside, Im probably one of the worst for not doing the appropriate cut/paste thingity when I reply to something that particularly moves me to crawl out of my own queendom of lurk. Im trying to be better these days about being in touch...sometimes the canadian cocoon can get too darned cozy for words. Mags who lives smack dab in the centre of Canada ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: njc cleaning out my closet hi Vince, I assume you are still here, reading, so I'll let you in on a wonderful gangsta rappa thing that happened to me and my family when we went on holiday to the Canadian Shield for a long weekend recently. Our gracious host took us out on a boat..and we're talking fancy boat...one of those things with ... well I felt like I was in someone's living room! It was an amazing experience to be out on the water . now, here comes the part where you were definitely a part of this trip. A couple of guests brought along their music, I love the exuberance of the young ones..and this was wonderful to hear something admittedly I might not have thought to bring a long on such a journey. anyway....strains of Em, Dr Drey and a bunch of others that I had no clue who they were (sorry, my bad) but the kids had this music on non stop blasting and it was fabulous amazing stuff. Dancing on das boat, the whole nine yards..squealing like a school girl, me. It was exhilerating to have the winds whipping my hair around and to feel like nothing else mattered but those moments in time. The lyrics may be perceived as harsh, but I heard the poetry and the passion, and loved every minute of it. I dont chime in here anywhere near as often as I used to. I try my best to read what everyone has to say, and sometimes I just dont know how to respond, so I dont. As Ive mentioned, Im much less prone to posting personal stuff..ah the lessons of life, it's a mixed thing for me, but there you have it. Im glad you are so into this stuff, know it like your own skin, and for sure, feel free to share you enthusiasm. Just because someone doesnt respond doesnt mean they dont give a dot about what you are saying. I think that life just gets so dag burned busy or whatever. Ive posted lots a lots of stuff with nary a response, and yea, it used to really bother me...as in why bother...but I know that lots of us have experienced this..so try to hang in there ok? Mags, doing the best I can ;-) npimh: gangsta paradise ... hooot such fun on the open waters surrounded by the shield... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:55:27 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Testing 1, 2 njc Hi Jim, It was so awesome meeting you in New Orleans. So glad you decided to de-lurk. For years I was only on digest, thinking that the volume of njc was unmanageable, until my buddies at Pazfest told me the list was pretty quiet these days. I'm back on single messages and am loving it! Wish I had done it sooner. You know what happens when you assume! Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mags Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:35 PM To: Michael Paz; Jim; Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc hi Jim and welcome to the fold....I prefer singles too, that way I can decide who I read lol! All kidding aside, Im probably one of the worst for not doing the appropriate cut/paste thingity when I reply to something that particularly moves me to crawl out of my own queendom of lurk. Im trying to be better these days about being in touch...sometimes the canadian cocoon can get too darned cozy for words. Mags who lives smack dab in the centre of Canada ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:27:40 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Hey Jimbo, Good to see you post on here. Like the others have said, I find the individual emails much easier to keep up with the threads. Miss you buddy, and say hello to Pat! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:45:51 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: NJC 1 year ago today I was looking at my calendar, and saw that it was one year ago today that I flew to Idyllwild, CA to the Creekstone Inn, for a fantastic Jonifest. It was such a beautiful place, and great being with my Joni buds. That's two fests I've had the pleasure to go to within one year! Whoo hoo! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Hi Jim, Let me echo everyone else and say welcome to the participatory side of the JMDL. Way to jump off the bleachers and get in the game. I wouldn't think of doing the digest, single posts allow you to be a part of the conversation. Replying is just a matter a matter of selecting reply or reply all. I typically do a "reply all" but sometimes if a thread has 6 or so addresses PLUS the joni@smoe.org address I'll trim it down knowing that most of the folks copied will be getting it twice. Thanks again for all your assistance in New Orleans, it was greatly appreciated. Thanks too for the birthday wishes - my day started with a trip to the dentist and ended up at Smiley's, a little music club up the road, enjoying some cold beers with a couple of really great friends. So it definitely got better as it went on. Keep the posts coming - the more out of tune voices the better. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Shiver Me Timbers" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Better that than the other way around! ________________________________ From: Bob Muller To: Jim ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 1:51:06 PM Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc ...Thanks too for the birthday wishes - my day started with a trip to the dentist and ended up at Smiley's, a little music club up the road, enjoying some cold beers with a couple of really great friends. So it definitely got better as it went on. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:03:11 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks These will sell out sometime in the next 24 hours: http://jonimitchell.com/songbooks.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:07:48 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Testing 1, 2 njc Welcome, Jim. So glad the rest of the list will now get to know you. I prefer the single posts, myself. There really aren't that many. Jerry On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Let me echo everyone else and say welcome to the participatory side of the > JMDL. > Way to jump off the bleachers and get in the game. > > I wouldn't think of doing the digest, single posts allow you to be a part > of the > conversation. Replying is just a matter a matter of selecting reply or > reply > all. I typically do a "reply all" but sometimes if a thread has 6 or so > addresses PLUS the joni@smoe.org address I'll trim it down knowing that > most of > the folks copied will be getting it twice. > > Thanks again for all your assistance in New Orleans, it was greatly > appreciated. > Thanks too for the birthday wishes - my day started with a trip to the > dentist > and ended up at Smiley's, a little music club up the road, enjoying some > cold > beers with a couple of really great friends. So it definitely got better as > it > went on. > > Keep the posts coming - the more out of tune voices the better. > > Bob > > NP: Tom Waits, "Shiver Me Timbers" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:19:14 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... In the Second Fret set from October 12 1967, IHAK comes between "Conversation" and "Cactus Tree" (which Joni announces she wrote that day, so surely that's its first performance). You can hear the retuning--at least on the 3 volume fan compilation Posall And Mosalm (not to be confused with the commercial bootleg of the same name). Set list: Live at the Second Fret, Philadelphia 10/12/67 (64:31) 1) Night in the City 3:38 2) Come to the Sunshine 4:06 3) Chelsea Morning 3:12 4) Conversation 5:42 5) I Had A King 6:13 6) Cactus Tree 3:38 7) Little Green 6:52 8) Marcie 6:08 9) London Bridge 5:06 10) Ballerina Valerie 3:24 11) Michael from Mountains 4:47 12) The Drummer Man 3:38 13) I Don't Know Where I stand 4:04 14) Both Sides Now 4:03 I guess I could get my guitar out and figure it out, but I have to get some more work done before going to see Carolina Chocolate Drops tonight! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:41 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > which > songs > she played in the same set?> > > That's a good idea...it wasn't one she played a lot that I recall, but > I'll check when I get home and see what I have. > > Bob, laughing because he knows exactly what IHAK means. > > NP: Alana Davis, "Round & Around" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:46:47 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... Thanks Richard!! I have this show, I'll have to dig it out and listen to it. This set list shows that she played the first six songs in DADF#AD. IMHO, she either played IHAK in DADF#AD, or gabbed while she dropped the F# down to E, and then gabbed again to bring it back up to F# for Cactus Tree (where I think she says she wrote the song A LA Dylan). The next two songs (LG and M) were played in Open G (DGDGBD) and then maybe LB and BV were also played in open G. Songs #11, 12 and 13 are FFCGAC or CFCGAC and, in my opinion again, Both Sides Now could have been played in either Open D or Open G. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I think she may have used Open D and Open G interchangeably for some "easier' songs depending on which tuning she was in. How she pulled this shit off is beyond me. :-) Sue - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Flynn [mailto:rflynn@frontiernet.net] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:19 PM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: 'mia _'; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... In the Second Fret set from October 12 1967, IHAK comes between "Conversation" and "Cactus Tree" (which Joni announces she wrote that day, so surely that's its first performance). You can hear the retuning--at least on the 3 volume fan compilation Posall And Mosalm (not to be confused with the commercial bootleg of the same name). Set list: Live at the Second Fret, Philadelphia 10/12/67 (64:31) 1) Night in the City 3:38 2) Come to the Sunshine 4:06 3) Chelsea Morning 3:12 4) Conversation 5:42 5) I Had A King 6:13 6) Cactus Tree 3:38 7) Little Green 6:52 8) Marcie 6:08 9) London Bridge 5:06 10) Ballerina Valerie 3:24 11) Michael from Mountains 4:47 12) The Drummer Man 3:38 13) I Don't Know Where I stand 4:04 14) Both Sides Now 4:03 I guess I could get my guitar out and figure it out, but I have to get some more work done before going to see Carolina Chocolate Drops tonight! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:41 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > which > songs > she played in the same set?> > > That's a good idea...it wasn't one she played a lot that I recall, but > I'll check when I get home and see what I have. > > Bob, laughing because he knows exactly what IHAK means. > > NP: Alana Davis, "Round & Around" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:04:29 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... Interesting ... First 3 songs are in DADF#AD ... If she does quite a bit of tuning to DADDAD for IHAK, then she would have to go to Open G, DGDGBE for MM and BV ... what perplexes me is then she goes to Song to a Seagull which is CGCGCC. AHHHGGHH! - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:02 PM To: Richard Flynn; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... The only other performance of IHAK that I have is on the Club 47 show from January '68. Thes setlist was: Cactus Tree Night In The City The Gift Of The Magi I Had A King Morning Morgantown Ballerina Valerie Song To a Seagull BSN Conversation Come To The Sunshine Chelsea Morning The Pirate of Penance The Way It Is The Dawntreader And she does quite a bit of retuning after Magi before IHAK. Bob NP: Joni, "I Had A King" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:01:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... The only other performance of IHAK that I have is on the Club 47 show from January '68. Thes setlist was: Cactus Tree Night In The City The Gift Of The Magi I Had A King Morning Morgantown Ballerina Valerie Song To a Seagull BSN Conversation Come To The Sunshine Chelsea Morning The Pirate of Penance The Way It Is The Dawntreader And she does quite a bit of retuning after Magi before IHAK. Bob NP: Joni, "I Had A King" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:13:05 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... She definitely tunes from F# down to D on the Second Frets version, begins playing, stops and puts on a capo. She tunes the D back up to F# for Conversation after removing the capo. > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara [mailto:sem8@cornell.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:04 PM > To: Bob Muller; Richard Flynn; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > Interesting ... First 3 songs are in DADF#AD ... If she does quite a > bit of tuning to DADDAD for IHAK, then she would have to go to Open G, > DGDGBE for MM and BV ... what perplexes me is then she goes to Song to > a Seagull which is CGCGCC. AHHHGGHH! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:02 PM > To: Richard Flynn; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > The only other performance of IHAK that I have is on the Club 47 show > from > January '68. > > Thes setlist was: > Cactus Tree > Night In The City > The Gift Of The Magi > I Had A King > Morning Morgantown > Ballerina Valerie > Song To a Seagull > BSN > Conversation > Come To The Sunshine > Chelsea Morning > The Pirate of Penance > The Way It Is > The Dawntreader > > And she does quite a bit of retuning after Magi before IHAK. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "I Had A King" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:18:58 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... Which proves Mia is right and I Had A King is in DADDAD Capo 7. Very interesting!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Flynn [mailto:rflynn@frontiernet.net] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:13 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; 'Bob Muller'; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: 'mia _'; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... She definitely tunes from F# down to D on the Second Frets version, begins playing, stops and puts on a capo. She tunes the D back up to F# for Conversation after removing the capo. > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Tierney McNamara [mailto:sem8@cornell.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:04 PM > To: Bob Muller; Richard Flynn; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > Interesting ... First 3 songs are in DADF#AD ... If she does quite a > bit of tuning to DADDAD for IHAK, then she would have to go to Open G, > DGDGBE for MM and BV ... what perplexes me is then she goes to Song to > a Seagull which is CGCGCC. AHHHGGHH! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:02 PM > To: Richard Flynn; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: mia _; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music > book ... > > The only other performance of IHAK that I have is on the Club 47 show > from > January '68. > > Thes setlist was: > Cactus Tree > Night In The City > The Gift Of The Magi > I Had A King > Morning Morgantown > Ballerina Valerie > Song To a Seagull > BSN > Conversation > Come To The Sunshine > Chelsea Morning > The Pirate of Penance > The Way It Is > The Dawntreader > > And she does quite a bit of retuning after Magi before IHAK. > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "I Had A King" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:19:44 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... But why doesn't she ever break strings? That must prove she's a goddess! :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:17 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... Just like collecting covers, those of us who dabble in things Joni have to deal with difficulty. I feel your pain. Joni never makes it easy, does she? Bob NP: Pavement, "Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse)" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: For those who own the Joni Mitchell Complete sheet music book ... Just like collecting covers, those of us who dabble in things Joni have to deal with difficulty. I feel your pain. Joni never makes it easy, does she? Bob NP: Pavement, "Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse)" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:24:30 -0400 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: 2nd Annual Joni Mitchell Tribute Night, Ithaca, NY USA Preliminary Press Release: 2nd Annual Joni Mitchell Tribute Night Sat Oct 9 @ 7-10 pm Community School of Music and Art: Third Floor Auditorium 330 E. Martin Luther King St, Ithaca, NY 14850 Phone: 607 272-1474 Ithaca musicians perform Joni Mitchell organized by Joseph Gaylord, with Cookie Coogan, Colleen Kattau, Susan Lytle, Molly MacMillan, Debra Moree, Sera Smolen, Dee Specker, Linda Stout, Sue Tierney McNamara, Patti Witten & others ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:36:03 +0000 (UTC) From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks If there is anyone who might be able to grab one if each of these for me, I could pay for them at a later date. I just don't have the means at the moment. Would be much appreciated. Victor - --- Original Message ----- From: Les Irvin <lesirvin@gmail.com> To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:03:11 -0000 (UTC) Subject: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks These will sell out sometime in the next 24 hours: http://jonimitchell.com/songbooks.cfm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:00:50 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "The Promise", Springsteen content but NJC There's a lot to read about several Springsteen titles (to be released on Nov 16 in the US) at http://www.brucespringsteen.net/news/index.html "The Promise" is 21 tracks. It's the stuff that was left off of "Darkness On the Edge Of Town" because it wasn't, well, dark enough to match the theme. THE PROMISE (CD #1) 1. Racing In The Street ('78) 2. Gotta Get That Feeling 3. Outside Looking In 4. Someday (We'll Be Together) 5. One Way Street 6. Because The Night 7. Wrong Side Of The Street 8. The Brokenhearted 9. Rendezvous 10. Candy's Boy THE PROMISE (CD # 2) 1. Save My Love 2. Ain't Good Enough For You 3. Fire 4. Spanish Eyes 5. It's A Shame 6. Come On (Let's Go Tonight) 7. Talk To Me 8. The Little Things (My Baby Does) 9. Breakaway 10. The Promise 11. City Of Night - -------------------------------- A few details about the 21 track, 2-CD set called "The Promise", $16.19 USD at Amazon http://tinyurl.com/24oblzh - -------------------------------- A few details about the 3-LP set, also 21 tracks, $51.29 USD at Amazon (!) http://tinyurl.com/2bkfq9e - -------------------------------- There's a version with lots of extras called "The Promise: The Darkness On The Edge Of Town Story Deluxe Edition", $115 USD The box includes * a remastered version of "Darkness On the Edge Of Town" on CD #1 * the same 21 tracks of "The Promise on CD #2 and CD #3. * several interesting slices of video, spread across 3 DVDs * a hard-bound booklet (book?) of hand-written lyrics and random notes taken from the Boss'es notebooks * your choice: a t-shirt or a poster http://tinyurl.com/2uosdky - -------------------------------- There's a Blu-Ray version of the box too on the same page: http://tinyurl.com/2uosdky - -------------------------------- Me? I'm skipping the LPs. I figure I don't need a remastered version of "Darkness" because I have it on LP. I'll either get the 2CD bargain, or go whole-hog for the box. The notebook and T-shirt aren't drawing cards to me so I guess it's down to whether the video can recapture $99 worth of that amazing period. Naw. They priced the box "wrong". Campaigning for Springsteen who gets paid a king's ransom for doing what comes naturally, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:24:02 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks Hello Victor, Just made a donation on your behalf for the two songbooks. Please contact Les and give him your mailing address. Donation made in the name of gene mock. cheers and peace~~gene hope the little one is well. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Les Irvin" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: Re: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks > If there is anyone who might be able to grab one if each of these for me, > I could pay for them at a later date. I just don't have the means at the > moment. Would be much appreciated. > > Victor > > > > --- Original Message ----- > From: Les Irvin <lesirvin@gmail.com> > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:03:11 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: last chance for Hissing and Hejira songbooks > These will sell out sometime in the next 24 hours: > http://jonimitchell.com/songbooks.cfm ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #286 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------