From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #241 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, August 15 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 241 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: If there's a Joni biopic. [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Laura Linney as Joni [Bob Muller ] RE: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC [Mags ] Re: If there's a Joni biopic. [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Joan Baez, njc [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Joan Baez, njc ["Mark" ] Re: Joan Baez, njc [Em ] Re: If there's a Joni biopic. ["Mark" ] Re: Joan Baez, njc [Moni Kellermann ] New article: Edie Falco Stars in Own Personal Joni Mitchell Jukebox Musical [TheStaff@JoniMitchell] The sexes of England (njc) [Walt Breen ] Re: The sexes of England (njc) [Catherine McKay ] RE: The sexes of England (njc) [Walt Breen ] Stardust [Walt Breen ] Joni Mitchell Klein [Gina Del Piero ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:09:10 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. Hi Sue, I have to agree with you about the risk of a biopic being cheesy. There have been some stinkers. If it's done right, it could be wonderful though. I'd say it's inevitable but, maybe not until after Joni's death. How ever it is done, I think some or all of us will not be happy with it. There will undoubtedly be some crucial segment of Joni's life left out or played wrong or badly or they'll get the wrong Director or a bad choice of songs for the soundtrack or something. Laura Linney would be a fair choice. This was a subject we discussed not long ago and I think many people agreed that Rosanna Arquette would be a good choice for Joni's later life. Thanks for mentioning Judy Davis - an idol of mine. One of the finest actress Australia has ever produced. She attended NIDA the same year as Mel Gibson and several other luminaries of Australian theatre. I've been told that Judy lives just down the road from me. I haven't spotted her yet. Maybe I could throw another Aussie name into the hat to play Joni...Cate Blanchett? Pull her hair back a bit and she could kind of look like Joni. I mean, if Cate can pull off Bob Dylan, why not Joni? My two cents. Mark in Sydney NP Flipside (Demo) - Everything But The Girl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Laura Linney as Joni Laura has been great in everything I've seen her in. My favorite roles of hers were The Truman Show (the wife who also has to sneak in product advertisements) and You Can Count On Me which just knocked me out. Thanks to Stephen Elliott I saw her in The Crucible on broadway and then enjoyed a meet and greet and autograph session. Much shorter than I thought but prettier in person and amazingly kind and gracious. Bob NP: Electric Light Orchestra, "Poor Boy" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 07:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: RE: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC Richard, as I was reading this morning's messages, I was about to write and ask if anyone had seen Townes in concert. Or if anyone had met him or had any good stories about him. So thanks for sharing that little treasure of yours ;-) I am currently reading a wonderful book that I think many of y'all would enjoy, Cigar Box Banjo by Paul Quarrington. It's making me think of everyone here, and all the wonderful music and stories shared, music made for music's sake, a way of sharing what's on the inside, out. No Joni mention yet, but plenty on Woodie Guthrie, Neil Young, the Beatles, Sir Paul, and a great story about the time when Paul and his mates were trying to put a band together and his friend's Dad, Ed Thigpen sat in with the boys on his drum kit and this of course left a lasting impression on Paul et al. Paul received a sudden and unexpected diagnosis of stage four lung cancer and died a little over a year ago...and this is his last book, within which he shares the experiences, and makes the reader laugh and cry out loud, nodding in that oh, I understand sort of thing. Im tired out this morning, due to no sleep, not out of choice. It was a wild and crazy night again on our streets and it's hard to sleep through that sometimes. I cannot believe I am saying this, but sometimes, I long for winter months when such things calm down. Mags - --- On Fri, 8/13/10, Richard Flynn wrote: From: Richard Flynn Subject: RE: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC To: "'Mags'" , "'gene'" , joni@smoe.org, "'Catherine McKay'" Received: Friday, August 13, 2010, 8:50 PM I was fortunate enough to have seen TVZ live in the late 1970s at DC's Childe Harold. Must've been a good night for him as he was friendly and signed the double lp "Live at the Old Quarter for me. (I still have it!) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Mags > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:36 PM > To: gene; joni@smoe.org; Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC > > Im sure I borrowed that DVD from the main library here...it is sooo > good, for > all of us Townes fans, and for those who dont have a clue what we are > on > about, but would like to know. Im sure there's a Joni connection there > somewhere. > > fwiw, I dreamed about Joni the other night. In my dream, it was like > old > friends meeting up again after ages of not seeing one another. It was > too > much! We had a great old talk (or did I do all the listening lol) > > Sue, initially I might have disagreed with your thoughts about Joni > being > fragile, however, you are of course right...I remember the film during > the > Isle of Wight concert...poor girl was just crushed with all that > growling > going on. Not to mention dude showing up on stage. > > Even though Joni has been vulnerable etc, I believe she is incredibly > strong. > Given what she has endured in her life. > > Mags, enjoying this happy place > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Catherine McKay wrote: > > > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC > To: "gene" , "Mags" , > joni@smoe.org > Received: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 8:50 PM > > > > > > > If you get the chance, see the film "Be here to love me," which is a > doc made > about him a few years ago. Very well done, featuring clips of him > performing > live, or just talking, plus interviews with his friends and family, > including > his gorgeous kids. I was lucky enough to be able to borrow it from the > library, so do check your pubic library and, if they have an online > system > where you can request something, go for it. > > > Mags, I agree with you about it being a great funeral song. That's > another > one to add to my list. Mine could end up being a very long funeral > because > there are so many great songs to choose from. > > > > > From: gene > To: Mags ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 8:42:10 PM > Subject: Re: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC > > Thanks Mags, Townes is one of my favorites. "White Freightliner > Blues", > "Poncho and Lefty", "Waitin Around to Die", and "Dead Flowers." are > some of my > most played songs by Townes. Never got a chance to see him live, never > met > the guy, read his words and listen to his music, I really like the > Dude. > > peace~~gene > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mags" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:57 PM > Subject: Lyle Lovett sings Flyin Shoes by Townes VanZandt NJC > > > > merciful heavens, this is such a gorgeous video, a beautiful cover by > Lyle > as > > he pays tribute to Townes. > > > > I discovered Townes via our very own jmdler Claudia. Thanks mostly to > > Catherine though, for bringing this one back round again. > > > > I cannot help but think that this would be a good funeral song as > well. > > > > a very grateful happy Mags > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDD04Pxu6aI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Joan Baez, njc Hi Ya'll, I just finished watching the movie, Joan Baez: How Sweet the Sound. It is very moving and grounding. I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. I had read her autobiography years ago but didn't feel as connected with her as I do now after watching this movie. Wow. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:10:54 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. Cate Blanchett can do anything. I think she'd be a fine choice. She even sings beautifully, if her singing in Benjamin Buttpn was actually her singing. I think my pick for director would be Clint Eastwood. He seems to get to the marrow of a story and he's a composer and jazz pianist with fine musical sensibilities. Dave On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Hi Sue, > > I have to agree with you about the risk of a biopic being cheesy. There have been some stinkers. If it's done right, it could be wonderful though. I'd say it's inevitable but, maybe not until after Joni's death. How ever it is done, I think some or all of us will not be happy with it. There will undoubtedly be some crucial segment of Joni's life left out or played wrong or badly or they'll get the wrong Director or a bad choice of songs for the soundtrack or something. > > Laura Linney would be a fair choice. This was a subject we discussed not long ago and I think many people agreed that Rosanna Arquette would be a good choice for Joni's later life. > > Thanks for mentioning Judy Davis - an idol of mine. One of the finest actress Australia has ever produced. She attended NIDA the same year as Mel Gibson and several other luminaries of Australian theatre. I've been told that Judy lives just down the road from me. I haven't spotted her yet. Maybe I could throw another Aussie name into the hat to play Joni...Cate Blanchett? Pull her hair back a bit and she could kind of look like Joni. I mean, if Cate can pull off Bob Dylan, why not Joni? > > My two cents. > > Mark in Sydney > > NP Flipside (Demo) - Everything But The Girl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:50:17 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc Thanks for the recommendation, Laura. I am going to order it for our library. I remember loving her autobiography. Jerry On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > Hi Ya'll, > > I just finished watching the movie, Joan Baez: How Sweet the Sound. It is > very > moving and grounding. I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. I had > read > her autobiography years ago but didn't feel as connected with her as I do > now > after watching this movie. Wow. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:56:02 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc I'll put in another recommendation for this one. I really enjoyed and learned a lot about Joan. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Notaro" Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:50 AM To: "Laura Stanley" Cc: Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc > Thanks for the recommendation, Laura. I am going to order it for our > library. I remember loving her autobiography. > > Jerry > > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Laura Stanley > wrote: > >> Hi Ya'll, >> >> I just finished watching the movie, Joan Baez: How Sweet the Sound. It >> is >> very >> moving and grounding. I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. I >> had >> read >> her autobiography years ago but didn't feel as connected with her as I do >> now >> after watching this movie. Wow. >> >> Love, >> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc is this her American Masters film? I love that. Especially the scenes of her sitting in her kitchen fiddling around with her guitar and cussing like a sailor. I've always loved Joan's guitar playing. Jerry, definitely a great one for a library to have. Em - --- On Sat, 8/14/10, Mark wrote: From: Mark Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc To: "Gerald Notaro" , "Laura Stanley" Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 12:56 PM I'll put in another recommendation for this one. I really enjoyed and learned a lot about Joan. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Notaro" Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 9:50 AM To: "Laura Stanley" Cc: Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc > Thanks for the recommendation, Laura. I am going to order it for our > library. I remember loving her autobiography. > > Jerry > > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > >> Hi Ya'll, >> >> I just finished watching the movie, Joan Baez: How Sweet the Sound. It is >> very >> moving and grounding. I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it. I had >> read >> her autobiography years ago but didn't feel as connected with her as I do >> now >> after watching this movie. Wow. >> >> Love, >> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:20:40 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. Just as a little side note, this is from the IMDB's biography for Judy Davis: 'Fellow Australian actress Cate Blanchett has often said Davis is her role model.' Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark-Leon Thorne" Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:09 AM To: Cc: Subject: Re: If there's a Joni biopic. > Thanks for mentioning Judy Davis - an idol of mine. One of the finest > actress Australia has ever produced. She attended NIDA the same year as > Mel Gibson and several other luminaries of Australian theatre. I've been > told that Judy lives just down the road from me. I haven't spotted her > yet. Maybe I could throw another Aussie name into the hat to play > Joni...Cate Blanchett? Pull her hair back a bit and she could kind of > look like Joni. I mean, if Cate can pull off Bob Dylan, why not Joni? > > My two cents. > > Mark in Sydney > > NP Flipside (Demo) - Everything But The Girl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:23:06 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Joan Baez, njc Am 14.08.2010 19:01, Wie Em so vortrefflich formulierte: > is this her American Masters film? Yes. And here are 14 video clips which are outtakes from that movie: http://video.pbs.org/video/1274928278/ Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:56:48 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New article: Edie Falco Stars in Own Personal Joni Mitchell Jukebox Musical A new article has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Title: Edie Falco Stars in Own Personal Joni Mitchell Jukebox Musical Publication: NYmag.com Date: 2010.03.29 Read it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2251 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:00:27 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: The sexes of England (njc) Who'd want to live in a place called Nossex; and Middlesex sounds kinda bi -- not that there's anything wrong with that. Does the "-sex" come from something etymologically related to "section"? Also, given Norfork (with a variety of spellings) and Suffolk and such, are there any Esforks or Weffucks or such? I must be bored. Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The sexes of England (njc) How about Whatthefolk? "Middlesex" is a very good novel by Jeffrey Eugenides and it does feature a character who is a hermaphrodite (raised as a girl, then discovers/decides that she is really more a boy), but that's an oversimplification of what is really a wonderful story. In fact, I think I want to read it again, now that I think of it. ________________________________ From: Walt Breen To: Mike Pritchard ; Jonilist Digest Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:27 PM Subject: The sexes of England (njc) Who'd want to live in a place called Nossex; and Middlesex sounds kinda bi -- not that there's anything wrong with that. Does the "-sex" come from something etymologically related to "section"? Also, given Norfork (with a variety of spellings) and Suffolk and such, are there any Esforks or Weffucks or such? I must be bored. Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:45:30 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: RE: The sexes of England (njc) lol. I seem to spend a lot of time in Whatthefuck and Boredomsex myself. Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:04:06 -0700 From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: The sexes of England (njc) To: littlebreen@live.com; mikeprit@gmail.com; joni@smoe.org How about Whatthefolk? "Middlesex" is a very good novel by Jeffrey Eugenides and it does feature a character who is a hermaphrodite (raised as a girl, then discovers/decides that she is really more a boy), but that's an oversimplification of what is really a wonderful story. In fact, I think I want to read it again, now that I think of it. From: Walt Breen To: Mike Pritchard ; Jonilist Digest Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 3:00:27 PM Subject: The sexes of England (njc) Who'd want to live in a place called Nossex; and Middlesex sounds kinda bi - -- not that there's anything wrong with that. Does the "-sex" come from something etymologically related to "section"? Also, given Norfork (with a variety of spellings) and Suffolk and such, are there any Esforks or Weffucks or such? I must be bored. Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:54:19 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: Stardust Hi gang, This is probably one of those topics that have been done to death here, but I'm watching the "House"-a-thon on USA or whatever channel (for those who don't know "House" is a medical drama starring Hugh Laurie, who does the best American actor I've heard a Brit do in my life), and "We are stardust" came up, and then I was watching a clip about a supernova that just apparently happened, and the scientist said you-know-what. So I'm wondering: Did Joni extremely popularize the phrase, or was it already a well-known expression when she wrote "Woodstock"? Anyone know who said it first, or a least popularized it before La Joni? Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:16:27 -0300 From: Gina Del Piero Subject: Joni Mitchell Klein Just saw again this video in which joni performs "Three Great Stimulants". It's probably one of my favourite joni live performances .. its got a particular strength to it; her facial expressions, the lack of the guitar -and the various arms and body movements that that means-, the band, the dancing, the clothing... it's very special. And saw this "Joni Mitchell Klein" tag, which i had never seen before and came across as extremely odd.. i felt somewhat uncomfortable! weird... if you have, it's always the perfect time to watch this gem again!! if you haven't, please DO! http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=61 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #241 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------