From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #211 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, July 16 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 211 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Laurel Canyon [Laura Stanley ] thirtysomething NJC [Lieve Reckers ] Re: thirtysomething [Michael Flaherty ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #195 [hejira924@aol.com] Re: Laurel Canyon [Catherine McKay ] Re: Sun Kil Moon (njc) [Mags ] Re: Sun Kil Moon (njc) [Mags ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #195 ["Mark" ] Re: thirtysomething [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Laurel Canyon Hi Ya'll, A few weeks ago we took a long road trip from Arkansas to California including Laurel Canyon. When I was planning the trip, the line in Ladies of the Canyon, "come out for a visit here" kept playing in my mind. We had an incredible visit with Kate and Jeff and were musically pumped driving down from their place to L.A. After eating dinner with my cousin in L.A., we couldn't go to sleep without trying to find Laurel Canyon first even though it was dark outside. We drove down Sunset Blvd. past Whiskey A Go-Go and the Roxy; my kids knew the history of these places better than I did. Laurel Canyon Blvd. intersects Sunset Blvd. so we turned but didn't know what part of Laurel Canyon Blvd. was "the" part. When we got to an area where it was hilly, I took a turn so I wouldn't miss the right place. The turn was onto Kirkwood Drive, a steep, narrow street lined with cool looking houses with hardly any yards. I was telling my kids this has to be the right part of Laurel Canyon!!! The spirits felt right, but my kids were doubtful. We turned around on Kirkwood, and down at the bottom of the hill where it meets Laurel Canyon Blvd. we saw a store/restaurant with a hippie looking sign so I stopped to get directions. It was the Canyon Store, which I now know is famous. The store is rustic looking inside with all kinds of interesting foods and merchandise. It was cool being there at night. I asked the guy at the cash register to tell me the history of the area because I still wasn't sure I was in the right part of Laurel Canyon. He was really sweet and seemed shocked I didn't know. He and another guy who worked there told us all about where we were. They had a hand drawn, colorful map on a door and pointed out the streets and told us who had lived where. Kirkwood, the street we had just come from, leads to Ridpath, which is where Jimi Hendrix had lived. Joni lived on Lookout Mountain Avenue just up from Frank Zappa's log cabin. The location of her house ("Our House") is marked with a heart on the map. Mama Cass had lived under the store. Jim Morrison's house was visible from the porch where there are steps up from the street, steps that Jim watched being climbed at the time when he composed his song "Love Street." There's a little bell on the top of Jim's old house we saw in the daylight the next day when we came back and drove the famous streets. The guy working at the store had a book on Laurel Canyon at the cash register. It titled, Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock and Roll's Legendary Neighborhood and is written by Michael Walker who lives in Laurel Canyon. The book is awesome! It starts out like this: "In 1968 a British pop star and the refugees from two seminal Los Angeles bands gathered in a cottage on Lookout Mountain Avenue in Laurel Canyon, the slightly seedy, camp-like neighborhood of serpentine one-lane roads, precipitous hills, fragrant eucalyptus trees, and softly crumbling bungalows set down improbably in the middle of Los Angeles, and sang together for the first time. The occupant of the cottage, which had moldering shake shingles and draft-prone casement windows, was a Canadian painter, poet, and folksinger named Joni Mitchell. The British pop star, sporting a wisp of a goatee and a thick Manchester brogue, was Graham Nash, founding member of the Hollies. The refugees were Stephen Stills, late of the Buffalo Springfield, writer and singer of "For What It's Worth," who had three years before auditioned for the Monkees and, having failed, recommended his friend, a folkie named Peter Torkelson; and David Crosby, late of the Byrds and "Mr. Tambourine Man," possessed of a Buffalo Bill mustache, an immaculate harmony voice, and piercing eyes that Mitchell, with typical literary flourish, likened to star sapphires. So it was that Nash, Stills, and Crosby sat in Mitchell's living room on Lookout Mountain, in the heart of Laurel Canyon, in the epicenter of L.A.'s nascent rock music industry, and for the first time began to sing together." What a cool place!!! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:01:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: thirtysomething NJC I was always a great fan of Thirtysomething. It felt so natural in the script and style acting. For some reason, one particular small detail always stuck with me as being so "realistic": the actor playing Gary (if I remember his name correctly) looked very much like the then-top tennis player Bjorn Borg, and at some point one of the other characters says that to him. Seems strange now, that I thought that so amazing, but I really did. A bit like Woody Allen suddenly turning to the camera and talking to the audience. Ayway, I would love to have the whole set on DVD. I just checked on the internet, but it seems it is only in the States that all 4 series are available in a box set, for a really good price too ($37, I think). In the UK we still have to buy each series separately for about #25 each, and series 4 is not even available. If anybody in the UK finds a better deal (or elsewhere, but on DVDs that can play on a European player), please let me know! Lieve in London - ------ From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: thirtysomething Hi all. Just thought I'd pass on a significant Joni moment that I had recently. No chance meeting or anything exciting like that. The '90s angst driven soap opera, thirtysomething has just been released on DVD (...) - ------------------------------ From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: thirtysomething NJC I liked that show as well, Mark, well-written, well-acted, and like you say, great music. I found the soundtrack in a local record shop for a buck and it's probably the best dollar I've ever spent. As I recall, it was the first show that showed two men waking up in the same bed in the morning. I may have to revisit it on DVD myself. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: thirtysomething The idea of "River" as a Christmas song makes sense only if you're looking for a sad song about the Christmas season, as I'll bet "thirtysomething" was (I was a loyal viewer at the time, but I don't remember that episode). I know there was a commercial for something that used "River" but then edited all references to the broken relationship. I do remember the episode in which two characters were doing video dating. While making her tape, Ellen broke into "All I Want". Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:14:56 -0400 From: hejira924@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #195 Re: The Kids Are All Right Yes, all Joniphiles must see this wonderfully acted movie. Annette Bening's character actually sings some lines from "All I Want," and it is so clear the influence Joni has had on so many people of "our generation!" I hope you all fall in love with the characters in this movie as much as I did! - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 3:00 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #195 onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 14 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 195 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - ------- The Kids Are All Right [Paul Castle ] Re: The Kids Are All Right [Mags ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:33:54 +0100 rom: Paul Castle ubject: The Kids Are All Right Just been reading a great review of the new film The Kids Are All Right" (due out on July 23) - ttp://bit.ly/b6AGnO - "a movie about a lesbian ouple whose two teenage children were conceived ith the help of an anonymous sperm donor" - ic (Annette Bening) and Jules (Julianne Moore), heir children - the 18-year-old Joni (Mia Wasikowska) nd her 15-year-old brother, Laser (Josh Hutcherson) - nd sperm-donor father Paul (Mark Ruffalo) Describing it as "outrageously funny without ever xaggerating for comic effect, and heartbreaking ith only minimal melodramatic embellishment", he reviewer concludes: > The performances are all close to perfect, which is to say that the imperfections of each character are precisely measured and honestly presented. There is great music too, both on the soundtrack and, in one extraordinary scene, sung a cappella at the dinner table. (Its Joni Mitchells Blue, beautifully harmonized by Nic and Paul). Sounds great! very best to all aulC NP Josh Ritter's "A Girl In The War" by Solas ttp://blip.fm/~tdm5u - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:02:40 -0700 (PDT) rom: Mags ubject: Re: The Kids Are All Right <> here is great music too, both on the soundtrack and, in one extraordinary cene, sung a cappella at the dinner table. (Itbs Joni Mitchellbs Blue,b beautifully harmonized by Nic and Paul hanks, Paul, for posting, read through the review, listened to the nterview...looking forward to seeing it! ags - - --- On Tue, 7/13/10, Paul Castle wrote: rom: Paul Castle ubject: The Kids Are All Right o: joni@smoe.org eceived: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 7:33 AM ust been reading a great review of the new film The Kids Are All Right" (due out on July 23) - ttp://bit.ly/b6AGnO - "a movie about a lesbian ouple whose two teenage children were conceived ith the help of an anonymous sperm donor" - ic (Annette Bening) and Jules (Julianne Moore), heir children - the 18-year-old Joni (Mia Wasikowska) nd her 15-year-old brother, Laser (Josh Hutcherson) - nd sperm-donor father Paul (Mark Ruffalo) Describing it as "outrageously funny without ever xaggerating for comic effect, and heartbreaking ith only minimal melodramatic embellishment", he reviewer concludes: > The performances are all close to perfect, which is to say that the imperfections of each character are precisely measured and honestly presented. There is great music too, both on the soundtrack and, in one extraordinary scene, sung a cappella at the dinner table. (Its Joni Mitchells Blue, beautifully harmonized by Nic and Paul). Sounds great! very best to all aulC NP Josh Ritter's "A Girl In The War" by Solas ttp://blip.fm/~tdm5u - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #195 ******************************** - ------- ost messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org nsubscribe by clicking here: ailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Laurel Canyon and what a cool story! ________________________________ From: Laura Stanley To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:29:24 AM Subject: Laurel Canyon The guy working at the store had a book on Laurel Canyon at the cash register. It titled, Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock and Roll's Legendary Neighborhood and is written by Michael Walker who lives in Laurel Canyon. The book is awesome! It starts out like this: "In 1968 a British pop star and the refugees from two seminal Los Angeles bands gathered in a cottage on Lookout Mountain Avenue in Laurel Canyon, the slightly seedy, camp-like neighborhood of serpentine one-lane roads, precipitous hills, fragrant eucalyptus trees, and softly crumbling bungalows set down improbably in the middle of Los Angeles, and sang together for the first time. The occupant of the cottage, which had moldering shake shingles and draft-prone casement windows, was a Canadian painter, poet, and folksinger named Joni Mitchell. The British pop star, sporting a wisp of a goatee and a thick Manchester brogue, was Graham Nash, founding member of the Hollies. The refugees were Stephen Stills, late of the Buffalo Springfield, writer and singer of "For What It's Worth," who had three years before auditioned for the Monkees and, having failed, recommended his friend, a folkie named Peter Torkelson; and David Crosby, late of the Byrds and "Mr. Tambourine Man," possessed of a Buffalo Bill mustache, an immaculate harmony voice, and piercing eyes that Mitchell, with typical literary flourish, likened to star sapphires. So it was that Nash, Stills, and Crosby sat in Mitchell's living room on Lookout Mountain, in the heart of Laurel Canyon, in the epicenter of L.A.'s nascent rock music industry, and for the first time began to sing together." What a cool place!!! Love, Laura Hi Ya'll, A few weeks ago we took a long road trip from Arkansas to California including Laurel Canyon. ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Sun Kil Moon (njc) Very beautiful songs, listening to them now on his site. Thanks boys, for the recommend, which I always check into, given the source ;) love to you both, Mags - --- On Wed, 7/14/10, Paul Castle wrote: From: Paul Castle Subject: Sun Kil Moon (njc) To: Bob.Muller@fluor.com, joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:04 PM Bob wrote: > NP: Sun Kil Moon, "Alesund" (this gorgeous new album from SKM (Mark > Kozelek) is breath-taking. I can't recommend it enough to ANYONE, > especially you guitarists. Check it out) Is the album called "Alesund" in the States, Bob? It's shown as "Admiral Fell Promises" on his site. He's crossing the pond to play a gig at the Union Chapel here in London at the end of July - you can listen to 'Admiral Fell Promises' and 'You Are My Sun' (both absolutely gorgeous, imo) @ http://ontouracrossthepond.blogspot.com/ Can't wait to hear the rest of the album (whatever it's called!) - the guy's amazing! very best PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:32:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Sun Kil Moon (njc) I was trying for the life of me figure out where I'd heard this voice before...I knew nothing about Red House Painters or any other musical projects that Mark has been involved in...so I was delighted to discover a song that Ive loved for a long time, Have You Forgotten, is none other than Mark's tune (a la Red House Painters).(I LOVE this song)...love it to bits...anyway.... Ive had this tune on my itunes for ages...so great when that old synchronicity or whatever this is, happens. thanks for opening the door, again. Mags - --- On Wed, 7/14/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Sun Kil Moon (njc) To: "Paul Castle" Cc: joni@smoe.org, studio16a@gmail.com Received: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:12 PM Hi Paul, The track I was listening to was "Aselund", the first track from his new release which, as you stated, is "Admiral Fell Promises". You can listen to THREE tracks here: http://www.markkozelek.com/ Sun Kil Moon, like Red House Painters, is essentially Mark Kozelek who has also released albums under his own name. ALL of them are great. From what I understand, he's spent a lot of time recently listening to classical guitar and that influence clearly shows on these tracks. And I would highly recommend catching him live if and when you can. I've seen him in a small intimate setting in Asheville (The Grey Eagle where I most recently caught Jonatha Brooke with Phyliss Ward) and it was a wonderful show. 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I hope you > all > fall in love with the characters in this movie as much as I did! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:03:31 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: thirtysomething Ellen sang? Her voice was so raspy, she could barely speak. I must have seen the episode but I don't remember it. Video dating sounds about right for her character though. Mark in Sydney PS All four seasons of thirtysomething are on DVD now and available through Amazon. No Australian release date yet. On 16/07/2010, at 5:03 AM, Michael Flaherty wrote: > The idea of "River" as a Christmas song makes sense only if you're > looking for a sad song about the Christmas season, as I'll bet > "thirtysomething" was (I was a loyal viewer at the time, but I don't > remember that episode). I know there was a commercial for something > that used "River" but then edited all references to the broken > relationship. > > I do remember the episode in which two characters were doing video > dating. While making her tape, Ellen broke into "All I Want". > > Michael F. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #211 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------