From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #173 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, June 11 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 173 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills [T Peckham ] RE: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills ["Rob Argento" ] Re: CK & JT Live at Troubador NJC [passscribe@aol.com] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC [Maggie McNally ] Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC now NJC [Em ] Re: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC [Maggie McNally Subject: Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills I agree with pretty much everything you said, Rob. Just a few comments: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Rob Argento wrote: > > Maybe it's just the old 1968 revolutionary in me, but the problem seems > systemic and while changing out the leadership can reform some things, the > momentum of the system is still in force, with basically minor variations > to > the left or right. > Absolutely. And the system, in my opinion, is an oligarchy, not a democracy. > > > Many years I traveled in the Eastern block. For reasons we need not go into > just now, I could not travel in NATO countries. There I saw countries with > one single ideology represented by one single political party. Returning to > the USA after so many decades abroad, I once again find a society with only > one ideology represented (albeit by two political parties). I really see > more similarities than differences between the old Eastern European block > and the USA of today. The same distrust of government, distain for > politicians, the same feelings of voting not counting, and so on. > I think this is an extremely important perspective, one that too few Americans are even aware of, much less able to consider. > > The President - ANY President - is neither a King nor a dictator and cannot > possibly swing this entire Society in the eight few years he/she is in > office. And any President is a PRODUCT of the current political system, > trained through experience to work only within the present system. > > You can't stop an oil tanker dead in its tracks or turn it on a dime. That > sort of maneuverability is not built into its design. Nor is change built > into the current American system of governance. In fact, with the current > rules of the Senate as well as the Congressional system, it is a miracle > that anything can be achieved at all. The system of Checks and Balances > does > more checking than balancing. And leaving questions of infrastructure and > the welfare of the People only to private enterprise leaves so much to > deteriorate or simply never be implemented. Never underestimate the power > of > Procrastination - even at the level of the governance of a Nation. So, > failing bridges, an inefficient energy infrastructure, a failing > educational > system, a very unevenly distributed health care system - all continue to > deteriorate. > Yes, and very little will change in this country unless we (at the least) have election and campaign finance reform and a major streamlining of the insane way Congress works (or doesn't). > > So, I am relatively happy with Obama but certainly do not see him as a sort > of political demigod - A charismatic leader, by all means, and one with > the > right intentions perhaps - but a leader within the present system and not a > leader of a new movement. > Don't expect Obama to hold Bush/Cheney responsible. The only one who could possibly do that are the American people - and there, unfortunately there is no unity. Had the economy been better and the Wars gone just a bit better, > we probably would have had McCain as president. > I didn't state this very clearly. I never expected the Obama administration to hold the Bu$h/Cheney regime responsible in any meaningful way. Obama pretty much made that clear before the election. What I should have said is that his refusal to take any action against them was in keeping with the lack of will on the part of the American public to do so. This is the same public who either voted for Bu$h/Cheney twice or allowed the elections to be stolen twice. The majority of Americans, it would seem, would rather try to forget (or ignore entirely) the failures and sins of even the recent past in the dubious name of moving forward. And in Obama, they seem to have found a leader who agrees with them. > > Well, yes. I guess I am still a proponent of a true Revolution, perhaps > not > a violent one, but a revolution indeed. > As am I! I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, tho. I fear for what my young grandniece and grandnephew will be facing in twenty-some years . . . Terra > > /Robban > > And the middle of this nation, a nation built upon a single ideology > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of T > Peckham > Sent: den 11 juni 2010 02:09 > To: Mike Pritchard; JMDL > Subject: Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills > > I agree. And the ugly fact is that a lot of Americans seem to think that > just because we finally elected a person of color to the presidency, it > somehow makes up for the past sins of the Bu$h/Cheney regime. (Which is > itself, of course, ridiculous--our imperialistic path of destruction goes > back decades.) And while there *are* many positive things about the > election > of Obama, his administration's continuation of much of the Bu$h-era foreign > policy is not one of them. Another policy that sets a terrible > precedent--one that I don't think the U.S. can survive in the long run--is > Obama's refusal to hold the Bu$h team responsible for the many crimes they > committed. One of the most heinous of those, torture of prisoners, not only > violated the Geneva Conventions but serves to put our troops more in danger > of the same treatment by other countries. We can't move forward until we > address the past. > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mike Pritchard > wrote: > > > >>This really SUCKS!! Bigtime. Hope it pushes people to realize our > > addiction > > to oil will never have a favorable outcome. Sad, really sad.<< > > > > I agree. Totally. But it s really sad too that some countries additions > to > > oil only cause them concern when the problems arrive on their beaches, > > rather than when more serious, more chronic problems explode, literally, > in > > other people s countries. > > > > mike in bcn > > > > np Llibert Fortuny - Auxili > > > > > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 03:18:44 -0400 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills From my point of view, there seems to be, especially for a people who are said to be individualistic, quite a lot of expectation on the President - be it Obama, bush or whoever else is filling the post at any one moment. Maybe it's just the old 1968 revolutionary in me, but the problem seems systemic and while changing out the leadership can reform some things, the momentum of the system is still in force, with basically minor variations to the left or right. We criticize Bush (rightly) for trying to push a minority agenda over the entire population. But should we then expect Obama to do the same - though in the other direction? Being the leader of one political party and being President of an entire people is quite different and so any president will be steered somewhat to the middle. Many years I traveled in the Eastern block. For reasons we need not go into just now, I could not travel in NATO countries. There I saw countries with one single ideology represented by one single political party. Returning to the USA after so many decades abroad, I once again find a society with only one ideology represented (albeit by two political parties). I really see more similarities than differences between the old Eastern European block and the USA of today. The same distrust of government, distain for politicians, the same feelings of voting not counting, and so on. The President - ANY President - is neither a King nor a dictator and cannot possibly swing this entire Society in the eight few years he/she is in office. And any President is a PRODUCT of the current political system, trained through experience to work only within the present system. You can't stop an oil tanker dead in its tracks or turn it on a dime. That sort of maneuverability is not built into its design. Nor is change built into the current American system of governance. In fact, with the current rules of the Senate as well as the Congressional system, it is a miracle that anything can be achieved at all. The system of Checks and Balances does more checking than balancing. And leaving questions of infrastructure and the welfare of the People only to private enterprise leaves so much to deteriorate or simply never be implemented. Never underestimate the power of Procrastination - even at the level of the governance of a Nation. So, failing bridges, an inefficient energy infrastructure, a failing educational system, a very unevenly distributed health care system - all continue to deteriorate. So, I am relatively happy with Obama but certainly do not see him as a sort of political demigod - A charismatic leader, by all means, and one with the right intentions perhaps - but a leader within the present system and not a leader of a new movement. Don't expect Obama to hold Bush/Cheney responsible. The only one who could possibly do that are the American people - and there, unfortunately there is no unity. Had the economy been better and the Wars gone just a bit better, we probably would have had McCain as president. Well, yes. I guess I am still a proponent of a true Revolution, perhaps not a violent one, but a revolution indeed. /Robban And the middle of this nation, a nation built upon a single ideology - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of T Peckham Sent: den 11 juni 2010 02:09 To: Mike Pritchard; JMDL Subject: Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills I agree. And the ugly fact is that a lot of Americans seem to think that just because we finally elected a person of color to the presidency, it somehow makes up for the past sins of the Bu$h/Cheney regime. (Which is itself, of course, ridiculous--our imperialistic path of destruction goes back decades.) And while there *are* many positive things about the election of Obama, his administration's continuation of much of the Bu$h-era foreign policy is not one of them. Another policy that sets a terrible precedent--one that I don't think the U.S. can survive in the long run--is Obama's refusal to hold the Bu$h team responsible for the many crimes they committed. One of the most heinous of those, torture of prisoners, not only violated the Geneva Conventions but serves to put our troops more in danger of the same treatment by other countries. We can't move forward until we address the past. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mike Pritchard wrote: > >>This really SUCKS!! Bigtime. Hope it pushes people to realize our > addiction > to oil will never have a favorable outcome. Sad, really sad.<< > > I agree. Totally. But it s really sad too that some countries additions to > oil only cause them concern when the problems arrive on their beaches, > rather than when more serious, more chronic problems explode, literally, in > other people s countries. > > mike in bcn > > np Llibert Fortuny - Auxili > - -- Curiosity is my religion. David Ryan Adams ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:12:36 -0400 From: passscribe@aol.com Subject: Re: CK & JT Live at Troubador NJC Hey, Mark, I recorded the show through the PBS (Channel 13 here) airing and watched it the other night with tears in my eyes... AMAZING sound quality and performances from Carole & James... brought back some great memories of the past for me. Speaking of "intimate" atmospheres, they are performing at Madison Square Garden in NYC next week and I was surprised to see that the stage will be in the center of the floor (usually it's at one end of the arena for rock concerts) so even the nosebleed seats at either end won't be TOO bad. Add a little "soft" lighting, and it will be just like they're in your living room, right? I wonder if the stage will rotate, however. But, at over $100 for a nosebleed seat furthest away from the stage, I will be content to watch the PBS show again. BTW, I'm going to see Todd Rundgren perform his Todd & Healing albums in their entirety in Morristown, NJ, in September, if anyone is interested... "only" $80 for a fourth row seat in front balcony in a small venue... not so bad. Kenny B From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC No need to apologize, Jerry. I enjoyed every word and am pea-green with envy of your co-worker. Carole & James played here and much as I would love see this show, I just couldn't see my way to buying tickets to see them in Key Arena. It sounds like they did everything they could to evoke an intimate atmosphere, though. I have Tivoed the PBS broadcast of a performance of their show but I haven't watched it yet. Now I'm eager to see it. Thank you for passing this along. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 3:00 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #160 onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 11 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 160 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC [Mike Pritchard ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC [Corey Blake ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC ["Mark Scott" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:13:10 +0200 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC >>This really SUCKS!! Bigtime. Hope it pushes people to realize our addiction to oil will never have a favorable outcome. Sad, really sad.<< I agree. Totally. But its really sad too that some countries additions to oil only cause them concern when the problems arrive on their beaches, rather than when more serious, more chronic problems explode, literally, in other peoples countries. mike in bcn np Llibert Fortuny - Auxili - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:03:57 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: Video addition in the Library: Chelsea Morning Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Chelsea Morning - BBC In Concert, London, England 1970 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=203 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:15:42 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: Video addition in the Library: Woodstock Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Woodstock - BBC In Concert, London, England 1970 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=204 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:20:59 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: JT & Carole King - VLJC Robert works for my department. I thought he wrote such a thoughtful review and that you all might enjoy reading it. Jerry *TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING * Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70=92s mesmerized the crowd of almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a stunning exquisite concert event. The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers reunited and played the legendary =93Troubadour Club=94 in LA for their 40t= h anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to s= o many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired this concert tour. The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate during the show so you would get different views of the concert performance= . At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member i= n old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of intimacy to the huge forum. The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled straight through the crowd as they roared with approval. (a charming nod t= o how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd =93hey welcome = we had to be here, but you didn=92t so thanks for coming. We could have played= , but if you weren=92t here something would have been missing=94 After the laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the night the intimate and beautiful =93Something In The Way She Moves=94 and h= is silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their youth= . I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up i= n North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our basement den. James Taylor=92s music was always playing in our household an= d on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional yet poetic lyrics. Next up was Carole King launching into =93So Far Away=94 off of her 1971 groundbreaking =93Tapestry=94 album. The backing band consisted of the all original line up aka =93the section=94 which included Leland Sklar on bass, Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King together Danny =93Kootch=94 Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced th= e sound of 1970=92s rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During t= he song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonely =93One mor= e song about moving along the highway=94 melodic lyrics. With his trademark l= ong white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up was =93Machine Gun Kelly=94 an obscure song from =93Mudslide Slim=94 one of= my favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. =93Kootch=94 was in full comma= nd as his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed th= e bands rock edge. =93Carolina on My Mind=94 was next with the screen showing a black and whit= e photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored leaves flew across the screen. I=92m sure he has played all these songs countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first time. I=92ve seen him many times before, but this night he actually brought= a fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldn=92t help but reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. Carole Kings =93Way Over Yonder=94 was a wonder of song A gospel soul piece= that had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on an acoustic guitar and they launched into =93Smackwater Jack=94 that had th= e crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the crow= d and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma and their reaching =96out to the crowd resonated with everyone and never fe= lt forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just playing acoustic guitar or piano. During =93Country Roads=94 James ended the song telling the crowd to =93Put= your hands up=94 over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic conclus= ion with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970=92s Jukeb= ox of timeless classic songs played on =85=94Sweet Seasons=94, =93Mexico=94, = =93Long Ago and Far Away=94, =93Sweet baby James=94, =93You=92re Beautiful=94 and then = during =93Shower the People=94 Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller ta= ke over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped =93he sounded good, maybe a lit= tle too good=94. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who c= ame across as genuine as apple pie. =93You Make me Feel Like A Natural Woman=94= had King flirting with lead guitar player =93Kootch=94 in a sexy one on one cal= l and response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for = a song that is forever etched in America=92s consciousness. On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60=92s! K= ing in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. She was simply amazing! I couldn=92t believe how excited she was to play an= d how hard she tried to =93bring it=94. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King rested her face onto JT=92s shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up aft= er the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic =93Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow=94 covered by the Shirelles the emotiona= l connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. Steam Roller Blues showcased =93Kootch=94 and Taylors enthusiasm for the bl= ues from as far back as their first band =93The Flying Machine=94 and then =93I= ts Too Late=94 had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with =93Kootch=94 adding= his trademark guitar licks=85=94Fire and Rain=94 showcased Russ Kunkels drum te= chnique of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity and =93= I Feel the Earth Move=94 had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into a= n intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey climaxed into =93You=92ve Got a Friend=94 a song written By Carole King w= ith James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself evoke= d the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable testament to a musical sound that is lost in today=92s world of lip-synchin= g no talents and choreographed dance moves. Their relationship together show= s their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. =93They=92ll take your sou= l if you let them, but don=92t you let them=94 everyone sang in unison and evoke= s their love and affection for each other, The show was a triumph and I for one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In Winter or Spring, Summer or Fall =93I=92ll come running to see them again= =94 . (RV) *SETLIST * Something In The Way She Moves So Far Away Machine Gun Kelly Carolina In My Mind Way Over Yonder Smackwater Jack Country Road Sweet Seasons Mexico Song of Long Ago Long Ago And Far Away You=92re Beautiful Shower The People (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman Your Smiling Face Crying In The Rain Chains Sweet Baby James Jazzman Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Steamroller Blues It=92s Too Late Fire & Rain I Feel the Earth Move You=92ve Got A Friend Up On The Roof How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) The Loco-motion [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:24:51 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC Sorry my review posted so weird :-( Jerry - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:27:12 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC Thanks for forwarding this! I saw the Hollywood Bowl show a few weeks ago and was also one of the lucky few that got in to see one of their shows at the Troubadour in 2005. Unimportant correction to your friend's review: the 2007 shows were for the 50th anniversary of the Troubadour, not the 40th anniversary for JT & CK. (Self-centered plug: My wife and I are actually on the DVD portion of the *Carole King/James Taylor Live at the Troubadour* CD/DVD that was released last month. You can see us for about 5 whole seconds during "So Far Away". It's the first cut-away to the audience during that song.) Anyway, it's an amazing show! - - -Corey On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > Robert works for my department. I thought he wrote such a thoughtful review > and that you all might enjoy reading it. > > Jerry > > > *TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING > * > Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and > Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70=92s mesmerized the crowd of > almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a > stunning exquisite concert event. > > The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers > reunited and played the legendary =93Troubadour Club=94 in LA for their > 40t= > h > anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to > s= > o > many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil > Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor > and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired > this concert tour. > > The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center > of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate > during the show so you would get different views of the concert > performance= > . > At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King > and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set > design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown > on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member > i= > n > old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small > nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of > intimacy to the huge forum. > > The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled > straight through the crowd as they roared with approval. (a charming nod > t= > o > how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made > there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be > the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd =93hey welcome > = > we > had to be here, but you didn=92t so thanks for coming. We could have > played= > , > but if you weren=92t here something would have been missing=94 After the > laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the > night the intimate and beautiful =93Something In The Way She Moves=94 and > h= > is > silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their > youth= > . > I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up > i= > n > North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our > basement den. James Taylor=92s music was always playing in our household > an= > d > on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a > musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan > Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same > sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional > yet poetic lyrics. > > Next up was Carole King launching into =93So Far Away=94 off of her 1971 > groundbreaking =93Tapestry=94 album. The backing band consisted of the all > original line up aka =93the section=94 which included Leland Sklar on bass, > Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King > together Danny =93Kootch=94 Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced > th= > e > sound of 1970=92s rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During > t= > he > song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonely =93One > mor= > e > song about moving along the highway=94 melodic lyrics. With his trademark > l= > ong > white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but > his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up > was =93Machine Gun Kelly=94 an obscure song from =93Mudslide Slim=94 one > of= > my > favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy > edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. =93Kootch=94 was in full > comma= > nd as > his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed > th= > e > bands rock edge. > > =93Carolina on My Mind=94 was next with the screen showing a black and > whit= > e > photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored > leaves flew across the screen. I=92m sure he has played all these songs > countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first > time. I=92ve seen him many times before, but this night he actually > brought= > a > fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldn=92t help but > reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. > > Carole Kings =93Way Over Yonder=94 was a wonder of song A gospel soul > piece= > that > had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a > standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on > an acoustic guitar and they launched into =93Smackwater Jack=94 that had > th= > e > crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her > curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the > crow= > d > and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma > and their reaching =96out to the crowd resonated with everyone and never > fe= > lt > forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each > other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just > playing acoustic guitar or piano. > > During =93Country Roads=94 James ended the song telling the crowd to > =93Put= > your > hands up=94 over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic > conclus= > ion > with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970=92s > Jukeb= > ox > of timeless classic songs played on =85=94Sweet Seasons=94, =93Mexico=94, = > =93Long Ago > and Far Away=94, =93Sweet baby James=94, =93You=92re Beautiful=94 and then > = > during > =93Shower the People=94 Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller > ta= > ke > over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the > crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped =93he sounded good, maybe a > lit= > tle > too good=94. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who > c= > ame > across as genuine as apple pie. =93You Make me Feel Like A Natural > Woman=94= > had > King flirting with lead guitar player =93Kootch=94 in a sexy one on one > cal= > l and > response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for > = > a > song that is forever etched in America=92s consciousness. > > On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like > teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60=92s! > K= > ing > in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond > locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. > She was simply amazing! I couldn=92t believe how excited she was to play > an= > d > how hard she tried to =93bring it=94. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was > incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point > as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King > rested her face onto JT=92s shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up > aft= > er > the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic > =93Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow=94 covered by the Shirelles the > emotiona= > l > connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. > > Steam Roller Blues showcased =93Kootch=94 and Taylors enthusiasm for the > bl= > ues > from as far back as their first band =93The Flying Machine=94 and then > =93I= > ts Too > Late=94 had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano > sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with =93Kootch=94 > adding= > his > trademark guitar licks=85=94Fire and Rain=94 showcased Russ Kunkels drum > te= > chnique > of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity and > =93= > I > Feel the Earth Move=94 had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm > and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into > a= > n > intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of > this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. > > > As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey > climaxed into =93You=92ve Got a Friend=94 a song written By Carole King > w= > ith > James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself > evoke= > d > the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable > testament to a musical sound that is lost in today=92s world of > lip-synchin= > g > no talents and choreographed dance moves. Their relationship together > show= > s > their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. =93They=92ll take your > sou= > l if > you let them, but don=92t you let them=94 everyone sang in unison and > evoke= > s > their love and affection for each other, The show was a triumph and I for > one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In > Winter or Spring, Summer or Fall =93I=92ll come running to see them > again= > =94 . > (RV) > > *SETLIST > * > > Something In The Way She Moves > So Far Away > Machine Gun Kelly > Carolina In My Mind > Way Over Yonder > Smackwater Jack > Country Road > Sweet Seasons > Mexico > Song of Long Ago > Long Ago And Far Away > You=92re Beautiful > Shower The People > (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman > > Your Smiling Face > Crying In The Rain > Chains > Sweet Baby James > Jazzman > Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow > Steamroller Blues > It=92s Too Late > Fire & Rain > I Feel the Earth Move > You=92ve Got A Friend > > Up On The Roof > How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) > The Loco-motion > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of image.jpg] > - - -- - - --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Do you Dig Comics? http://www.digcomics.com Mailing List - http://coreyblake.googlepages.com - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:01:14 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC No need to apologize, Jerry. I enjoyed every word and am pea-green with envy of your co-worker. Carole & James played here and much as I would love see this show, I just couldn't see my way to buying tickets to see them in Key Arena. It sounds like they did everything they could to evoke an intimate atmosphere, though. I have Tivoed the PBS broadcast of a performance of their show but I haven't watched it yet. Now I'm eager to see it. Thank you for passing this along. Mark in Seattle - - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Notaro" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:24 AM To: "Joni List" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC > Sorry my review posted so weird :-( > > Jerry - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #160 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie McNally Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC You're forgiven, Jerry, as this was delightful to read no matter. Is it posted on-line somewhere? It would be nice to read it without the strange marks and line breaks. Maggie - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Notaro" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:24 AM To: "Joni List" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC > Sorry my review posted so weird :-( > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:54:25 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC OK. Trying again. I am posting in plain test. TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70s mesmerized the crowd of almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a stunning exquisite concert event. The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers reunited and played the legendary Troubadour Club in LA for their 40th anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to so many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired this concert tour. The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate during the show so you would get different views of the concert performance. At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member in old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of intimacy to the huge forum. The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled straight through the crowd as they roared with approval. (a charming nod to how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd hey welcome we had to be here, but you didnt so thanks for coming. We could have played, but if you werent here something would have been missing After the laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the night the intimate and beautiful Something In The Way She Moves and his silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their youth. I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up in North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our basement den. James Taylors music was always playing in our household and on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional yet poetic lyrics. Next up was Carole King launching into So Far Away off of her 1971 groundbreaking Tapestry album. The backing band consisted of the all original line up aka the section which included Leland Sklar on bass, Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King together Danny Kootch Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced the sound of 1970s rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During the song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonely One more song about moving along the highway melodic lyrics. With his trademark long white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up was Machine Gun Kelly an obscure song from Mudslide Slim one of my favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. Kootch was in full command as his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed the bands rock edge. Carolina on My Mind was next with the screen showing a black and white photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored leaves flew across the screen. Im sure he has played all these songs countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first time. Ive seen him many times before, but this night he actually brought a fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldnt help but reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. Carole Kings Way Over Yonder was a wonder of song A gospel soul piece that had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on an acoustic guitar and they launched into Smackwater Jack that had the crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the crowd and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma and their reaching out to the crowd resonated with everyone and never felt forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just playing acoustic guitar or piano. During Country Roads James ended the song telling the crowd to Put your hands up over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic conclusion with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970s Jukebox of timeless classic songs played on Sweet Seasons, Mexico, Long Ago and Far Away, Sweet baby James, Youre Beautiful and then during Shower the People Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller take over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped he sounded good, maybe a little too good. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who came across as genuine as apple pie. You Make me Feel Like A Natural Woman had King flirting with lead guitar player Kootch in a sexy one on one call and response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for a song that is forever etched in Americas consciousness. On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60s! King in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. She was simply amazing! I couldnt believe how excited she was to play and how hard she tried to bring it. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King rested her face onto JTs shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up after the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow covered by the Shirelles the emotional connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. Steam Roller Blues showcased Kootch and Taylors enthusiasm for the blues from as far back as their first band The Flying Machine and then Its Too Late had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with Kootch adding his trademark guitar licksFire and Rain showcased Russ Kunkels drum technique of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity and I Feel the Earth Move had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into an intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey climaxed into Youve Got a Friend a song written By Carole King with James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself evoked the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable testament to a musical sound that is lost in todays world of lip-synching no talents and choreographed dance moves. Their relationship together shows their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. Theyll take your soul if you let them, but dont you let them everyone sang in unison and evokes their love and affection for each other, The show was a triumph and I for one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In Winter or Spring, Summer or Fall Ill come running to see them again . (RV) SETLIST Something In The Way She Moves So Far Away Machine Gun Kelly Carolina In My Mind Way Over Yonder Smackwater Jack Country Road Sweet Seasons Mexico Song of Long Ago Long Ago And Far Away Youre Beautiful Shower The People (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman Your Smiling Face Crying In The Rain Chains Sweet Baby James Jazzman Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Steamroller Blues Its Too Late Fire & Rain I Feel the Earth Move Youve Got A Friend Up On The Roof How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) The Loco-motion Jerry On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Maggie McNally wrote: > > You're forgiven, Jerry, as this was delightful to read no matter. Is > it posted on-line somewhere? It would be nice to read it without the strange > marks and line breaks. > > Maggie > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gerald Notaro" > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:24 AM > To: "Joni List" > > Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC > > > Sorry my review posted > so weird :-( > > > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC now NJC wow, Jerry, did you write that???? Wonderful! I was there, and that captured the feel of the evening very well. It was simply one of the best, most powerful concerts I've even been to. Happy they are both so happy and healthy these days - and in such fine form. (the band, too) :) Em - --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Gerald Notaro wrote: From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC To: "Maggie McNally" Cc: "JMDL" Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 9:54 AM OK. Trying again. I am posting in plain test. TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70s mesmerized the crowd of almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a stunning exquisite concert event. ....snip ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:18:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie McNally Subject: Re: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC Muuuuuch better!B Thanks a million ________________________________ From: Gerald Notaro To: Maggie McNally Cc: JMDL Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 9:54:25 AM Subject: Reposting - JT & Carole King - VLJC OK. Trying again. I am posting in plain test. TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70bs mesmerized the crowd of almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a stunning exquisite concert event. The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers reunited and played the legendary bTroubadour Clubb in LA for their 40th anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to so many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired this concert tour. The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate during the show so you would get different views of the concert performance. At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member in old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of intimacy to the huge forum. The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled straight through the crowd as they roared with approval.B (a charming nod to how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd bhey welcome we had to be here, but you didnbt so thanks for coming. We could have played, but if you werenbt here something would have been missingb After the laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the night the intimate and beautiful bSomething In The Way She Movesb and his silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their youth. I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up in North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our basement den. James Taylorbs music was always playing in our household and on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional yet poetic lyrics. Next up was Carole King launching into bSo Far Awayb off of her 1971 groundbreaking bTapestryb album. The backing band consisted of the all original line up aka bthe sectionb which included Leland Sklar on bass, Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King together Danny bKootchb Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced the sound of 1970bs rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During the song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonelyB bOne more song about moving along the highwayb melodic lyrics. With his trademark long white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up was bMachine Gun Kellyb an obscure song from bMudslide Slimb one of my favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. bKootchb was in full command as his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed the bands rock edge. bCarolina on My Mindb was next with the screen showing a black and white photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored leaves flew across the screen. Ibm sure he has played all these songs countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first time. Ibve seen him many times before, but this night he actually brought a fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldnbt help but reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. Carole Kings bWay Over Yonderb was a wonder of song A gospel soul piece that had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on an acoustic guitar and they launched into bSmackwater Jackb that had the crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the crowd and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma and their reaching bout to the crowd resonated with everyone and never felt forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just playing acoustic guitar or piano. During bCountry Roadsb James ended the song telling the crowd to bPut your hands upb over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic conclusion with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970bs Jukebox of timeless classic songs played on b&bSweet Seasonsb, bMexicob, bLong Ago and Far Awayb, bSweet baby Jamesb, bYoubre Beautifulb and then during bShower the Peopleb Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller take over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped bhe sounded good, maybe a little too goodb. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who came across as genuine as apple pie. bYou Make me Feel Like A Natural Womanb had King flirting with lead guitar player bKootchb in a sexy one on one call and response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for a song that is forever etched in Americabs consciousness. On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60bs! King in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. She was simply amazing! I couldnbt believe how excited she was to play and how hard she tried to bbring itb. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King rested her face onto JTbs shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up after the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic bWill You Still Love Me Tomorrowb covered by the Shirelles the emotional connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. Steam Roller Blues showcased bKootchb and Taylors enthusiasm for the blues from as far back as their first band bThe Flying Machineb and then bIts Too Lateb had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with bKootchb adding his trademark guitar licksb&bFire and Rainb showcased Russ Kunkels drum technique of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity andB bI Feel the Earth Moveb had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into an intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey climaxedB into bYoubve Got a FriendbB a song written By Carole King with James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself evoked the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable testament to a musical sound that is lost in todaybs world of lip-synching no talents and choreographed dance moves.B Their relationship together shows their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. bTheybll take your soul if you let them, but donbt you let themb everyone sang in unison and evokes their love and affection for each other,B The show was a triumph and I for one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In WinterB or Spring, Summer orB Fall bIbll come running to see them againb . (RV) SETLIST Something In The Way She Moves So Far Away Machine Gun Kelly Carolina In My Mind Way Over Yonder Smackwater Jack Country Road Sweet Seasons Mexico Song of Long Ago Long Ago And Far Away Youbre Beautiful Shower The People (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman Your Smiling Face Crying In The Rain Chains Sweet Baby James Jazzman Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Steamroller Blues Itbs Too Late Fire & Rain I Feel the Earth Move Youbve Got A Friend Up On The Roof How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) The Loco-motion Jerry On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Maggie McNally wrote: > > You're forgiven, Jerry, as this was delightful to read no matter. B Is > it posted on-line somewhere? B It would be nice to read it without the strange > marks and line breaks. > > Maggie > > - -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gerald Notaro" > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:24 AM > To: "Joni List" > > Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC > > > Sorry my review posted > so weird :-( > > > > Jerry ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #173 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------