From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #172 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, June 11 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 172 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC [Mike Pritchard ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC [Corey Blake ] Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC ["Mark Scott" ] Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills [T Peckham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:13:10 +0200 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC >>This really SUCKS!! Bigtime. Hope it pushes people to realize our addiction to oil will never have a favorable outcome. Sad, really sad.<< I agree. Totally. But its really sad too that some countries additions to oil only cause them concern when the problems arrive on their beaches, rather than when more serious, more chronic problems explode, literally, in other peoples countries. mike in bcn np Llibert Fortuny - Auxili ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:36:23 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC NJC Hi Mark I must have missed your post. Very involved with looking after my Mother, hence my in and outness with JMDL. However, it still feels an important life line to me. How strange (or fortunate) that we quoted the same line.Apologies to those I constantly repeat things to. And Jane Goodall says it all here. I said yesterday that I had been playing 'This Place' and you mention If I had a heart. In my mind, Joni often seems to have been a wee bit of a seer. Her songs often seem to portend events. I feel a bit like that about the album 'Shine.' I am finding great comfort in it at the moment. Mark, it also seems good to me that you don't let your imagination take you with this 'awful thing.' I know these things can quite tip me over and it's important to stay grounded and not let it. Then we can be active in protest and try to do things in our lives that make a small difference. Otherwise, I know I can get sucked right into powerlessness. I will not let that happen with this dreadful oil slick. That way I hope I can make some noise on behalf of all those poor birds and all the life under the sea. That way we may have 'poisoned everything', but I will no remain 'oblivious to it all.' Love Anita PS. On 10 June 2010 02:43, Mark Scott wrote: > Hi Anita, > > I did send a brief post awhile back about this quoting the line you have in > your subject header. > > I have 'generalized anxiety disorder' so I won't go into where my > imagination takes me with this awful thing when I let it go. Suffice it to > say I think it's horrifying, upsetting and sickening. > > I also mentioned some time ago about seeing the Bill Moyers interview with > Jane Goodall. This bit made a particular impression on me so I looked up a > transcription and found the exact quote: > > > JANE GOODALL:........I think E. O. Wilson is the first to say-- > BILL MOYERS: He's been at this table before. > > JANE GOODALL: I bet he has. That if everybody on the planet had the same > standard of living as us, then we would need three new planets. Some people > say four or five to supply sufficient nonrenewable natural resources. But > we don't even have one new one, we've got this one. So, do you think we've > lost something called wisdom? The indigenous people making a decision based > on, how does the decision we make today affect our people generations ahead? > > So, how do we make decisions today? How will it affect me? Me and my family? > Now, how will it affect the next shareholders meeting three months ahead? > How will it affect my next political campaign or, you know, something like > that. So, is there a disconnect between this incredibly clever brain and the > human heart? Love and compassion. > > > me again: > To quote the prophet Joni Mitchell again, if I had a heart, I'd cry. The > madness has to stop and the world has to change or the planet will be f**ked > up for good. > > Mark in Seattle > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Anita G" > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:12 AM > To: "Catherine McKay" > Cc: "Michael Paz" ; "jonipeople LIST" > > Subject: Re: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills VLJC > >> I didn't think I'd be alone on this one. Thanks for your responses, >> Mack, Paz, Cat. >> >> Been playing 'This Place' a lot. >> >> "Spirit of the water >> Give us all the courage and the grace >> To make genius of this tragedy unfolding >> The genius to save this place." >> >> Gonna need it. Thanks again, Joni, for finding words for me >> Love >> Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:03:57 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: Video addition in the Library: Chelsea Morning Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Chelsea Morning - BBC In Concert, London, England 1970 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=203 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:15:42 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: Video addition in the Library: Woodstock Another video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Woodstock - BBC In Concert, London, England 1970 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=204 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:20:59 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: JT & Carole King - VLJC Robert works for my department. I thought he wrote such a thoughtful review and that you all might enjoy reading it. Jerry *TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING * Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70=92s mesmerized the crowd of almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a stunning exquisite concert event. The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers reunited and played the legendary =93Troubadour Club=94 in LA for their 40t= h anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to s= o many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired this concert tour. The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate during the show so you would get different views of the concert performance= . At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member i= n old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of intimacy to the huge forum. The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled straight through the crowd as they roared with approval. (a charming nod t= o how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd =93hey welcome = we had to be here, but you didn=92t so thanks for coming. We could have played= , but if you weren=92t here something would have been missing=94 After the laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the night the intimate and beautiful =93Something In The Way She Moves=94 and h= is silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their youth= . I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up i= n North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our basement den. James Taylor=92s music was always playing in our household an= d on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional yet poetic lyrics. Next up was Carole King launching into =93So Far Away=94 off of her 1971 groundbreaking =93Tapestry=94 album. The backing band consisted of the all original line up aka =93the section=94 which included Leland Sklar on bass, Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King together Danny =93Kootch=94 Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced th= e sound of 1970=92s rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During t= he song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonely =93One mor= e song about moving along the highway=94 melodic lyrics. With his trademark l= ong white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up was =93Machine Gun Kelly=94 an obscure song from =93Mudslide Slim=94 one of= my favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. =93Kootch=94 was in full comma= nd as his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed th= e bands rock edge. =93Carolina on My Mind=94 was next with the screen showing a black and whit= e photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored leaves flew across the screen. I=92m sure he has played all these songs countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first time. I=92ve seen him many times before, but this night he actually brought= a fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldn=92t help but reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. Carole Kings =93Way Over Yonder=94 was a wonder of song A gospel soul piece= that had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on an acoustic guitar and they launched into =93Smackwater Jack=94 that had th= e crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the crow= d and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma and their reaching =96out to the crowd resonated with everyone and never fe= lt forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just playing acoustic guitar or piano. During =93Country Roads=94 James ended the song telling the crowd to =93Put= your hands up=94 over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic conclus= ion with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970=92s Jukeb= ox of timeless classic songs played on =85=94Sweet Seasons=94, =93Mexico=94, = =93Long Ago and Far Away=94, =93Sweet baby James=94, =93You=92re Beautiful=94 and then = during =93Shower the People=94 Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller ta= ke over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped =93he sounded good, maybe a lit= tle too good=94. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who c= ame across as genuine as apple pie. =93You Make me Feel Like A Natural Woman=94= had King flirting with lead guitar player =93Kootch=94 in a sexy one on one cal= l and response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for = a song that is forever etched in America=92s consciousness. On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60=92s! K= ing in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. She was simply amazing! I couldn=92t believe how excited she was to play an= d how hard she tried to =93bring it=94. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King rested her face onto JT=92s shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up aft= er the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic =93Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow=94 covered by the Shirelles the emotiona= l connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. Steam Roller Blues showcased =93Kootch=94 and Taylors enthusiasm for the bl= ues from as far back as their first band =93The Flying Machine=94 and then =93I= ts Too Late=94 had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with =93Kootch=94 adding= his trademark guitar licks=85=94Fire and Rain=94 showcased Russ Kunkels drum te= chnique of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity and =93= I Feel the Earth Move=94 had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into a= n intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey climaxed into =93You=92ve Got a Friend=94 a song written By Carole King w= ith James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself evoke= d the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable testament to a musical sound that is lost in today=92s world of lip-synchin= g no talents and choreographed dance moves. Their relationship together show= s their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. =93They=92ll take your sou= l if you let them, but don=92t you let them=94 everyone sang in unison and evoke= s their love and affection for each other, The show was a triumph and I for one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In Winter or Spring, Summer or Fall =93I=92ll come running to see them again= =94 . (RV) *SETLIST * Something In The Way She Moves So Far Away Machine Gun Kelly Carolina In My Mind Way Over Yonder Smackwater Jack Country Road Sweet Seasons Mexico Song of Long Ago Long Ago And Far Away You=92re Beautiful Shower The People (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman Your Smiling Face Crying In The Rain Chains Sweet Baby James Jazzman Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow Steamroller Blues It=92s Too Late Fire & Rain I Feel the Earth Move You=92ve Got A Friend Up On The Roof How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) The Loco-motion [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:24:51 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC Sorry my review posted so weird :-( Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:27:12 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC Thanks for forwarding this! I saw the Hollywood Bowl show a few weeks ago and was also one of the lucky few that got in to see one of their shows at the Troubadour in 2005. Unimportant correction to your friend's review: the 2007 shows were for the 50th anniversary of the Troubadour, not the 40th anniversary for JT & CK. (Self-centered plug: My wife and I are actually on the DVD portion of the *Carole King/James Taylor Live at the Troubadour* CD/DVD that was released last month. You can see us for about 5 whole seconds during "So Far Away". It's the first cut-away to the audience during that song.) Anyway, it's an amazing show! - -Corey On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > Robert works for my department. I thought he wrote such a thoughtful review > and that you all might enjoy reading it. > > Jerry > > > *TROUBADOUR TOUR DE FORCE: JAMES TAYLOR & CAROLE KING > * > Sunday night in front of a packed St Pete Times forum James Taylor and > Carole King both singer songwriters from the 70=92s mesmerized the crowd of > almost 17,000 fans with an arsenal of timeless songs and delivered a > stunning exquisite concert event. > > The beginnings of this tour originated back in 2007 when the two performers > reunited and played the legendary =93Troubadour Club=94 in LA for their > 40t= > h > anniversary. The club is synonymous with the LA sound and a birthplace to > s= > o > many of Laurel Canyons earthy acoustic performers (Jackson Browne, Neil > Young, Joni Mitchell) and also helped launched the careers of James Taylor > and Carole King. The concert was recorded and released on DVD that inspired > this concert tour. > > The setting was a small club vibe with a large circular stage in the center > of the Forum. The circular all white stage would actually slowly rotate > during the show so you would get different views of the concert > performance= > . > At one point you might have the drummer in your sites and then Carole King > and James Taylor would come spinning round. It made for an entertaining set > design. Also as each song would play visuals from their past would be shown > on the huge LCD screens above the band sometimes showing each band member > i= > n > old black and white pics from the early 1970s. And there were also small > nightclub tables placed around the stage with lamps that brought a sense of > intimacy to the huge forum. > > The band all walked out together from the back of the Forum and strolled > straight through the crowd as they roared with approval. (a charming nod > t= > o > how it was probably done at the Troubadour back in its heyday) As they made > there way to the stage it became apparent that James Taylor was going to be > the witty and funny emcee of the night. He thanked he crowd =93hey welcome > = > we > had to be here, but you didn=92t so thanks for coming. We could have > played= > , > but if you weren=92t here something would have been missing=94 After the > laughter subsided he then hushed the whole Forum with the first song of the > night the intimate and beautiful =93Something In The Way She Moves=94 and > h= > is > silky smooth voice and romantic lyrics brought everyone back to their > youth= > . > I for one was lost in the moment just as I was as a little boy growing up > i= > n > North Carolina watching my older brother George mastering JT songs in our > basement den. James Taylor=92s music was always playing in our household > an= > d > on the car radio AM stations of my youth and in North Carolina he was a > musical hero. (Taylor was raised in Chapel Hill, NC specifically Morgan > Creek) Listening now his voice was more mature, but he still had the same > sensitivity that draws you deep into his music especially his confessional > yet poetic lyrics. > > Next up was Carole King launching into =93So Far Away=94 off of her 1971 > groundbreaking =93Tapestry=94 album. The backing band consisted of the all > original line up aka =93the section=94 which included Leland Sklar on bass, > Russell Kunkel on drums and the man who actually brought JT and Carole King > together Danny =93Kootch=94 Kortchmar. This all- star line up influenced > th= > e > sound of 1970=92s rock just as much as the songwriters themselves. During > t= > he > song Sklars bass runs were a perfect compliment to Kings lonely =93One > mor= > e > song about moving along the highway=94 melodic lyrics. With his trademark > l= > ong > white beard he looked like he was straight out of Lord of The Rings , but > his strong melodic bass lines were essential to the songs groove .Next up > was =93Machine Gun Kelly=94 an obscure song from =93Mudslide Slim=94 one > of= > my > favorites which JT wrote with Danny Kortchmar. The song had a bluesy swampy > edge and let the band stretch out as a unit. =93Kootch=94 was in full > comma= > nd as > his subtle southern licks and stinging leads echoed the forum and showed > th= > e > bands rock edge. > > =93Carolina on My Mind=94 was next with the screen showing a black and > whit= > e > photo of a young James at around 18 years old playing a banjo as colored > leaves flew across the screen. I=92m sure he has played all these songs > countless times, but it was as if he was playing them for the very first > time. I=92ve seen him many times before, but this night he actually > brought= > a > fresh approach to his mellow folky- ballads and I couldn=92t help but > reminisce about learning to master the song myself as a young boy. > > Carole Kings =93Way Over Yonder=94 was a wonder of song A gospel soul > piece= > that > had king reaching for huge soulful notes and nailing them thus achieving a > standing ovation her first of many for the night. Next up King strapped on > an acoustic guitar and they launched into =93Smackwater Jack=94 that had > th= > e > crowd clapping along and King thrashing around on acoustic guitar with her > curly blonde locks . Most of the night their genuine affection for the > crow= > d > and actually each other was palpable. They had energy and amazing charisma > and their reaching =96out to the crowd resonated with everyone and never > fe= > lt > forced. One of the coolest things was watching the two stars backing each > other up on familiar songs sometimes singing backing harmonies or just > playing acoustic guitar or piano. > > During =93Country Roads=94 James ended the song telling the crowd to > =93Put= > your > hands up=94 over and over again climaxing the song into a fantastic > conclus= > ion > with the crowds hands way up over their heads. On and on the 1970=92s > Jukeb= > ox > of timeless classic songs played on =85=94Sweet Seasons=94, =93Mexico=94, = > =93Long Ago > and Far Away=94, =93Sweet baby James=94, =93You=92re Beautiful=94 and then > = > during > =93Shower the People=94 Taylor let his background singer Arnold McCuller > ta= > ke > over the ending lead and he stole the spotlight. His soulful riffs had the > crowd on their feet and Taylor even quipped =93he sounded good, maybe a > lit= > tle > too good=94. That sort of self-effacing humor was the norm for Taylor who > c= > ame > across as genuine as apple pie. =93You Make me Feel Like A Natural > Woman=94= > had > King flirting with lead guitar player =93Kootch=94 in a sexy one on one > cal= > l and > response vocal guitar exchange and again she earned a standing ovation for > = > a > song that is forever etched in America=92s consciousness. > > On the more upbeat numbers they were both dancing and wiggling around like > teenagers showing no signs of age although they are both in their 60=92s! > K= > ing > in particular was like an uncaged bird dancing and then thrashing her blond > locks sometimes holding hands with James or teasing the other band members. > She was simply amazing! I couldn=92t believe how excited she was to play > an= > d > how hard she tried to =93bring it=94. At 68 years old her vocal prowess was > incredible and her ease with James made the concert just flow. At one point > as they were perched on two stools playing and singing together and King > rested her face onto JT=92s shoulder and she actually seemed to tear up > aft= > er > the song was over. With Taylor singing backing harmonies on Kings classic > =93Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow=94 covered by the Shirelles the > emotiona= > l > connection of the song and the performers was simply magical. > > Steam Roller Blues showcased =93Kootch=94 and Taylors enthusiasm for the > bl= > ues > from as far back as their first band =93The Flying Machine=94 and then > =93I= > ts Too > Late=94 had Carole King stretching out mid song on a smokey jazzy piano > sequence before coming back to the familiar melody with =93Kootch=94 > adding= > his > trademark guitar licks=85=94Fire and Rain=94 showcased Russ Kunkels drum > te= > chnique > of playing the toms with brushes that accented the songs intensity and > =93= > I > Feel the Earth Move=94 had everyone standing up and dancing with enthusiasm > and I was surprised how this huge Forum was actually now transformed into > a= > n > intimate small club and we were all back in time witnessing the birth of > this new acoustic singer-songwriter sound. > > > As the hits got bigger and bigger eventually the 2 hour musical journey > climaxed into =93You=92ve Got a Friend=94 a song written By Carole King > w= > ith > James on guitar and then subsequently covered by James Taylor himself > evoke= > d > the strong bond between these two performers. They both are a remarkable > testament to a musical sound that is lost in today=92s world of > lip-synchin= > g > no talents and choreographed dance moves. Their relationship together > show= > s > their mutual admiration and a strong friendship. =93They=92ll take your > sou= > l if > you let them, but don=92t you let them=94 everyone sang in unison and > evoke= > s > their love and affection for each other, The show was a triumph and I for > one feel the same way about them the next time they come through town: In > Winter or Spring, Summer or Fall =93I=92ll come running to see them > again= > =94 . > (RV) > > *SETLIST > * > > Something In The Way She Moves > So Far Away > Machine Gun Kelly > Carolina In My Mind > Way Over Yonder > Smackwater Jack > Country Road > Sweet Seasons > Mexico > Song of Long Ago > Long Ago And Far Away > You=92re Beautiful > Shower The People > (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman > > Your Smiling Face > Crying In The Rain > Chains > Sweet Baby James > Jazzman > Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow > Steamroller Blues > It=92s Too Late > Fire & Rain > I Feel the Earth Move > You=92ve Got A Friend > > Up On The Roof > How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) > The Loco-motion > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name > of image.jpg] > - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Do you Dig Comics? http://www.digcomics.com Mailing List - http://coreyblake.googlepages.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:01:14 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC No need to apologize, Jerry. I enjoyed every word and am pea-green with envy of your co-worker. Carole & James played here and much as I would love see this show, I just couldn't see my way to buying tickets to see them in Key Arena. It sounds like they did everything they could to evoke an intimate atmosphere, though. I have Tivoed the PBS broadcast of a performance of their show but I haven't watched it yet. Now I'm eager to see it. Thank you for passing this along. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Notaro" Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:24 AM To: "Joni List" Subject: Re: JT & Carole King - VLJC > Sorry my review posted so weird :-( > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:09:07 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: NJC: Gas Leaks and Oil Spills I agree. And the ugly fact is that a lot of Americans seem to think that just because we finally elected a person of color to the presidency, it somehow makes up for the past sins of the Bu$h/Cheney regime. (Which is itself, of course, ridiculous--our imperialistic path of destruction goes back decades.) And while there *are* many positive things about the election of Obama, his administration's continuation of much of the Bu$h-era foreign policy is not one of them. Another policy that sets a terrible precedent--one that I don't think the U.S. can survive in the long run--is Obama's refusal to hold the Bu$h team responsible for the many crimes they committed. One of the most heinous of those, torture of prisoners, not only violated the Geneva Conventions but serves to put our troops more in danger of the same treatment by other countries. We can't move forward until we address the past. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Mike Pritchard wrote: > >>This really SUCKS!! Bigtime. Hope it pushes people to realize our > addiction > to oil will never have a favorable outcome. Sad, really sad.<< > > I agree. Totally. But it s really sad too that some countries additions to > oil only cause them concern when the problems arrive on their beaches, > rather than when more serious, more chronic problems explode, literally, in > other people s countries. > > mike in bcn > > np Llibert Fortuny - Auxili > - -- Curiosity is my religion. David Ryan Adams ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #172 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------