From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #170 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 9 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 170 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Our Website now veering off topic (NJC) [Lori Fye ] Re: Our Website [Catherine McKay ] Re: Our Website ["Mark Scott" ] Kennedy Center Honoree [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Our Website now extremely njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special [David Gizara ] Re: Our Website now veering off topic [Em ] Re: Our Website now veering off topic [Corey Blake ] Re: Our Website [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Our Website ["Mark Scott" ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #157 ["J. Gonzales" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:25:01 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic (NJC) Hey, it's all good. I don't tweet, although I have a Twitter account that I have used exactly once. I have to admit that I am addicted to Facebook in ways that are not always good for my work life, and it has taken some real effort to not read or post while at work. I have somehow managed to mostly ignore my computer altogether on the weekends, although not always. I can remember the early days of my JMDL membership, though (back in 1997!), when I would press the F5 key over and over to refresh my email, hoping for a new email from anyone here. : ) Facebook has pretty much replaced at least one long time email group to which I belong ... and that's kind of sad but those of us on that list have been friends for a long time and are in more-or-less regular contact via FB and privately. I'm with Vince and Catherine (and Corey, LOL!): FB is very useful in its way (most excellent for finding distant family and old friends -- and even new ones), but of course it does not replace the threaded discussion medium we share here. I would love to see a resurrection of jmdl.com, but, as others have pointed out, it probably does need to have login/password controls. I would enjoy being able to search for old discussions, although I don't often have a need to do that. It would be excellent if those discussions were not searchable on the general internet ... but ... aren't they? (If I Google "lrfye" a whole bunch of my old JMDL writings appear.) I do think it's necessary, if we are to continue as a group and attract new members -- and we need new members, as new viewpoints are always welcome and refreshing -- the JMDL should have some sort of website to at least let the world know where here. Les has added a "Social Network" page to jm.com, and maybe that's enough. I haven't done any research to see how easy it is to find for newcomers. Thoughts/comments on that? Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:43:37 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic LOL@Cory Ahem, I first met you on FaceBook, Cory, before you showed up here. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:07:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Our Website Ha. I even watched that one. Betty White is right, as usual. ________________________________ From: Gerald Notaro To: Catherine McKay Cc: Mark Scott ; Cassy ; Les Irvin ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 10:44:20 PM Subject: Re: Our Website On Saturday Night Live she said: bI really have to thank Facebook b& I didnbt know what Facebook was, and now that I do know what it is, I have to say, it sounds like a huge waste of time. I would never say the people on it are losers, but thatbs only because Ibm polite. People say bBut Betty, Facebook is a great way to connect with old friends.b Well at my age, if I wanna connect with old friends, I need a Ouija Board. Needless to say, we didnbt have Facebook when I was growing up. We had phonebook, but you wouldnbt waste an afternoon with it.b Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Our Website P.S. to Vince: Yes, i do know whatever she says is scripted. The lines were damn funny though. ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Gerald Notaro Cc: Mark Scott ; Cassy ; Les Irvin ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 7:07:20 AM Subject: Re: Our Website Ha. I even watched that one. Betty White is right, as usual. ________________________________ From: Gerald Notaro To: Catherine McKay Cc: Mark Scott ; Cassy ; Les Irvin ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 10:44:20 PM Subject: Re: Our Website On Saturday Night Live she said: bI really have to thank Facebook b& I didnbt know what Facebook was, and now that I do know what it is, I have to say, it sounds like a huge waste of time. I would never say the people on it are losers, but thatbs only because Ibm polite. People say bBut Betty, Facebook is a great way to connect with old friends.b Well at my age, if I wanna connect with old friends, I need a Ouija Board. Needless to say, we didnbt have Facebook when I was growing up. We had phonebook, but you wouldnbt waste an afternoon with it.b Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:50:07 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Our Website Oh, I believe everything everybody says on TV! And on Facebook and tweeter and in the newspapers and at all those tea parties! I never see them drinking any tea, though. Why do you suppose that is? Seems silly to call something a tea party if there's no tea! And how can anybody not believe Sarah Palin? She knows so much about Russia and Alaska and how to wreck Presidential campaigns. You just have to believe she's somebody important and speaks the absolute truth all the time! Even if she does sound like an ignorant rube most of the time she says it. Rose in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Catherine McKay" Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:19 AM To: "Catherine McKay" ; "Gerald Notaro" Cc: "Mark Scott" ; "Cassy" ; "Les Irvin" ; Subject: Re: Our Website > P.S. to Vince: Yes, i do know whatever she says is scripted. The lines > were damn funny though. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay > To: Gerald Notaro > Cc: Mark Scott ; Cassy ; Les > Irvin ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 7:07:20 AM > Subject: Re: Our Website > > Ha. I even watched that one. Betty White is right, as usual. > ________________________________ > From: Gerald Notaro > To: > Catherine McKay > Cc: Mark Scott > ; Cassy ; Les Irvin > ; joni@smoe.org > Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 10:44:20 PM > Subject: Re: Our Website > > On Saturday Night Live she said: > > bI really have > to thank Facebook b& I didnbt know what Facebook was, and > now that I do > know what it is, I have to say, it sounds like a huge > waste of time. I would > never say the people on it are losers, but > thatbs only because Ibm > polite. People say bBut Betty, Facebook is a > great way to connect with old > friends.b Well at my age, if I wanna > connect with old friends, I need a > Ouija Board. Needless to say, we > didnbt have Facebook when I was growing > up. We had phonebook, but you > wouldnbt waste an afternoon with it.b > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:54:02 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Kennedy Center Honoree Saw a suggestion on another list: Joni Mitchell! Wouldn't that be something? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Our Website now extremely njc Well, you've got to believe her about Russia. After all, she can see it from her house. ________________________________ From: Mark Scott To: Catherine McKay ; Gerald Notaro Cc: Cassy ; Les Irvin ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 8:50:07 AM Subject: Re: Our Website And how can anybody not believe Sarah Palin? She knows so much about Russia and Alaska and how to wreck Presidential campaigns. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:22:21 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Fwd: Jonatha Brooke News...(NJC) NEWS Tuesday, June 8, 2010 Jonatha will be one of many artists performing in the SummerStage 25th Anniversary Celebration in Central Park (NYC). The event features the songbook of Simon & Garfunkel with one duet performed by each artist involved. For more information: http://www.summerstage.org/donate_now/gala.html Monday, June 14, 2010 Jonatha will perform a few songs at the Nashville Musicians Flood Relief Fund benefit being held at Hill Country in NYC (http://www.hillcountryny.com/). The event is sponsored by AFM Local 802, the Recording Musicians Association of NY and Hill Country. Other guests scheduled to appear include Rosanne Cash, John Leventhal, Laura Cantrell and many more. More upcoming dates: 6/20/10 - Croton on Hudson, NY - Clearwater's Great Hudson River Revival at Croton Pt. Park 6/25/10 - Bend, OR - Northwest Crossing (with band!) 6/26/10 - Portland, OR - Aladdin Theater (with band!) 6/27/10 - Seattle, WA - Triple Door (with band!) 6/29/10 - Roseburg, OR - Stewart Park (with band!) 8/06/10 - Bethlehem, NH - The Colonial Theatre 8/07/10 - Pittsfield, MA - Colonial Theatre 8/13/10 - Lyons, CO - Rocky Mountain Folks Festival 8/14/10 - Colorado Springs, CO - Pikes Peak Center Also, if you haven't heard it, check out Jonatha's duet with Kingz "Here We Go" available on iTunes around the world. This email is sent to you because you have registered at http://www.jonathabrooke.com/. To delete your account and to unsubscribe, send email to: list-opt-out@jonathabrooke.com Please do not reply to this email... All inquiries should be directed via email to Jonatha's Management at pra@prarecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:10:12 -0700 From: David Gizara Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special Bob: You could never drop the ball, you've given me enough good stuff that it'll take three or four more shows to even catch up. David Gizara > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:39:39 -0700 > From: David Gizara > Subject: Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special > > Hello fellow Jimdles, > My name is David Gizara and I host Thursday Night Jazz on KLCC Eugene, > OR, 89.7 FM (NPR). > Each year I do a special show of Joni Mitchell songs covered by jazz > vocalists and instrumentalists. > This years show is June 24th at 9pm Pacific and will feature sometimes > multiple covers of about the top twenty Joni songs most covered by > other artists. You can stream this show all over the world at www.klcc.org > . > As always, I can't do this show without the huge help of Bob Muller > and he has turned me on to amazing covers, one of my happy finds this > year is the Russian/Norwegian pianist Olga Konkova, some great > reconstructions of Mitchell songs. David Lahm's work will be in there > as well as others you all are probably familiar with. Please tune > in. I'm hoping to send the show to Bob on CD again so he can make it > available to all who wants it. Suggestions are always welcome. > Thanks, > Peace > David Gizara > davidgizara@epud.net > Thursday Night Jazz Host > KLCC 89.7 FM > 136 W 8th Ave > Eugene, OR 97401, USA > www.klcc.org > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:49:02 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Jazz Summer Solstice Radio Special > > Glad to help you David - you always do a great job with the solstice > special and I look forward to this year's show. > > I feel like I've kind of dropped the ball though in terms of feeding > you > stuff so if you have any gaps in terms of the top 20, let me know and > maybe we can do a last-minute race to the finish. > > Bob > > NP: The Who, "Amazing Journey" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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And of course it also consistently plays into what has become the single running Betty White joke - friendly old lady saying/doing unexpected (often shocking) things. Fortunately her delivery is so charming and well done, no one minds or even notices the repetitiveness. Mark, I'd actually been on the mailing list for some time before then but rarely posted. Not that I'm a prolific contributor now but baby steps. But I definitely recognized your name from here when we "friended". (Can't remember who friended who now.) - -Corey On Jun 8, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > LOL@Cory > > Ahem, I first met you on FaceBook, Cory, before you showed up here. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic but then, that's SNL for ya! Messes with your head. Supposed to be that way. ;) Em - --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Corey Blake wrote: From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic To: "JMDL LIST" Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:42 AM Betty White's line was funny because it cleverly played both sides of the fence at the same time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:09:14 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic Well, I don't know if I would give modern day SNL that much credit, but I agree it's supposed to be that way. (And as if to poke me in the eye, Twitter seems to be down right now. Rightly deserved.) Off to vote! - -Corey On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Em wrote: > but then, that's SNL for ya! Messes with your head. Supposed to be > that way. > ;) > Em > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, Corey Blake wrote: > > From: Corey Blake > Subject: Re: Our Website now veering off topic > To: "JMDL LIST" > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:42 AM > > > Betty White's line was funny because it cleverly played both sides > of the fence at the same time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:13:35 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Our Website Lori, promoting the discussion list is a good idea but, if you have to locate a specific website then, it's not much of a promotion. That seems more like an argument to keep the discussion list stuff on www.jonimitchell.com . However, it would work if there is a prominent link to www.jmdl.com. I like Corey's idea of keeping the discussion list archive at www.jmdl.com . It should be a site dedicated to this discussion list (as the name implies). A central location to find anything that has been discussed about Joni. Jimmy, www.jmdl.com would be an ideal place to keep all our pics and profiles too. www.jonimitchell.com is the place for pics of Joni. FaceBook really is a different beast. I know that most of us are on there but it's really a social networking place not specifically pertaining to discussions on Joni Mitchell as this is. It would not be a duplicate if we had www.jmdl.com. There is, however, a FB group for JoniFests where you can upload your photographs but, it's purpose is mainly to let people know when an upcoming JoniFest is being planned. Please feel free to join. Dave Blackburn and I are adminostrators. Cassy has really expressed my feelings about it. I see www.jmdl.com as being quite different from the main artist website. Les is looking for some direction for the site. Now, I'm not quite sure what he means by that. Whether is means design or content or what. Maybe you could give some more detail about what you're looking for, Les. So, there is no further cost for the web space but what about time and effort? Does it need to be off loaded to a separate administrator? I know that my designs dominated the wallpaper section but there were actually three other contributors including Les Irvin's wonderful designs which were, by the way, the most downloaded of all. Personally, I feel that Joni Mitchell fans who are not musically inclined need an outlet to express themselves, visually. Mark in Sydney NP The traffic outside my window. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:56:14 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Our Website There is an archive of the JMDL at: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/ which seems to go all the way back to April of 1998 up to the present! Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Corey Blake" Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:53 AM To: "JMDL LIST" Subject: Re: Our Website > Hi Mark and all, > > The only thought I had was that it would be a great place to have an > archive of the discussion list's conversations. Maybe I'm just used to > Yahoo Mailing Lists (Groups) but it's nice to be able to go in and re- > read things from time to time, especially with some of the great > information that is shared. I'm sure there were some amazing posts > from before I got here that are unavailable to me. > > -Corey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:24:13 -0700 From: "J. Gonzales" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2010 #157 Hey all, A long ago poster and a lurker of some time now, I've been playing catch-up lately. I caught wind of the Janet Jackson version of BOBW a little late to get the link. Any chance someone could kindly put it back up? It's been on my want list for some time, along with that beautiful version of "Amelia" by Etta James that I did catch. Thanks! J. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #170 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------