From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #109 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, April 15 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 109 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Bryan A telling Joni how to sing on Northern lights? [B Lux ] Re: Odds and Ends [Anita G ] Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: safaris to different hearts [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Hand made instruments NJC now Laura's new guitar [Em ] Re: Odds and Ends - now movies and NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Odds and Ends - now movies and NJC [Mags ] new friends, fiona, etc. (ljc) [Leah Welborn ] Re: FW: need Joni recommendations [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Odds and Ends now njc [Walt Breen ] Re: FW: need Joni recommendations [Corey Blake ] Re: FW: need Joni recommendations [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Odds and Ends now njc [Dave Blackburn ] Re: y'all are so cool (now with Joni content) [Bruce Eggleston ] Re: FW: need Joni recommendations ["Mark" ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:05:01 +0200 From: B Lux Subject: Re: Bryan A telling Joni how to sing on Northern lights? Hi Corey, that's a funny story! Thanks for sharing the video, Best Bene Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:16:55 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Bryan A telling Joni how to sing on Northern lights? Hi Bene, That's the first I've heard that story, or even of this song. Wikipedia also another Joni story of the recording of the song: Joni Mitchell later spoke to writer Iain Blair about the recording experience: "I know it sounds ridiculous, but I was literally starving when we did the session 'cuz my yoga teacher had sent me to a psychic dietician who, while rubbing her chin and swinging her arm around in a circle, had diagnosed a lot of food allergies. The result was, predictably, that I was hardly allowed to eat anything, so by the time I arrived with an apple and a rice patty, my poor stomach was making all these strange noises. Then we get in the studio, and the engineer says he can't record 'cuz he's picking up some weird rumbling sound coming from my direction. (She laughs). And it was all pretty ironic, considering the subject matter." *Chicago Tribune*, May 1, 1985. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears_Are_Not_Enough Mini-documentary and music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_5ISeBOv1k&NR=1 - - -Corey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Odds and Ends Ha. I always wondered the same too. I think she'd probably Cree, assuming she was from Saskatchewan. ________________________________ From: Walt Breen To: Catherine McKay ; Jonilist Jmdler Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 1:20:49 AM Subject: RE: Odds and Ends Yeah, Catherine, that rings a bell. Didn't she also say that the real girl wasn't Cherokee but Cree or Blackfoot (or one of the other 1st Nations in Canada), but whatever it was, it sounded crappy, so she used Cherokee. I've always wondered (hoped) that Louise may have, um, bitten off the offending member, if you catch my drift. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:50:57 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Odds and Ends Walt wrote: "As much as I love Joni's original version of Cherokee Louise, and Anita & the Mutts' version," YAYYYYYYyyyy I am in the band! Make way Blackburn! Walt, I am deeply and profoundly grateful, but I sadly cannot claim credit for this one. I think it might be Robin that you mean. I am just the raving fan. I also remember the story about Cherokee Louise not being Cherokee, but it didn't scan as well into the song. As for biting off this particular pachyderm, I am sure there is much sympathy generally in JMDL for this position Love Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:56:32 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) Aren't the cops on the street because CL simply ran away? I mean, Joni seems to be looking for her when she says, "I know where she is". Mark in Sydney PS On a completely irrelevant note, Geena Davis is in Australia at the moment promoting her new movie, Accidents Happen which was filmed across the road from my house. They turned part of Callan Park into a US mid western town. They were there for several weeks and I chatted to the crew when I walked my dog. The park is becoming a movie magnet. Wolverine was also filmed there as well as many others. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Hand made instruments Hi Ya'll, The story about Joni and the dulcimer is really cool. http://bit.ly/blx7LE I've read it before or heard it on one of the DVD's. I recently bought a hand made electric guitar. It is white and sounds wonderful!!! It is very balanced to hold with a strap on it while standing up. Here is the website so you can have a look: http://www.earlsguitars.com Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:01:23 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: safaris to different hearts Wow, wow and WOW. Not sure how ol' eagle-eyed Muller missed this one, but I sure did. Luckily it is easy to purchase and I will do so post-haste. Very anxious to hear it. Must be losing my touch. Bob NP: Choir Of Young Believers, "Under The Moon" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Here is the website so you can have a look: http://www.earlsguitars.com Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) hi Mark and all, Im glad to read the discussions around one of my favourite songs. Makes sense to me, that Louise has run away (again and for good reason) and yes Joni knows where she goes, under the Broadway (and perhaps other) bridges in Saskatoon. Lots of speculation around this story that runs parallel to the news about Aboriginal girls and women being tossed around like garbage, supposedly running away, never to be seen again, that sort of thing. Anyway.... Wasnt Joni singing about a friend of hers? In part, Im asking to promote discussion, especially for the newer ones who have joined us, and in part, I cant remember the entire back story. I had a Joni friend in spirit who used to nail this song, it was spine tingling gorgeous to hear a male voice on this one. Kind of a similar reaction to hearing our very own Leslie Ross sing Magdalene Laundries. Mags - --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca Cc: "jonipeople LIST" Received: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 6:56 AM Aren't the cops on the street because CL simply ran away? I mean, Joni seems to be looking for her when she says, "I know where she is". Mark in Sydney PS On a completely irrelevant note, Geena Davis is in Australia at the moment promoting her new movie, Accidents Happen which was filmed across the road from my house. They turned part of Callan Park into a US mid western town. They were there for several weeks and I chatted to the crew when I walked my dog. The park is becoming a movie magnet. Wolverine was also filmed there as well as many others. Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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We were on the sidewalk trying to decide which way to go and he was on his cellphone and had to brush by Matt trying to get past us. ________________________________ From: Mark-Leon Thorne To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca Cc: jonipeople LIST Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 6:56:32 AM Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) PS On a completely irrelevant note, Geena Davis is in Australia at the moment promoting her new movie, Accidents Happen which was filmed across the road from my house. They turned part of Callan Park into a US mid western town. They were there for several weeks and I chatted to the crew when I walked my dog. The park is becoming a movie magnet. Wolverine was also filmed there as well as many others. Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:30:20 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Odds and Ends - now movies and NJC I know, right? I just had to laugh when I heard that they turned Bowen in north Queensland into Darwin in the 1940s for the movie, Australia. They turned one small tropical town in northern Australia into another small tropical town in northern Australia. Huh? What's up with that? It seems Toronto is the new New York. Do they film anything there anymore? Since Fox Studios opened up in Sydney, movie making has become one of the biggest industries here. They are not just Fox movies though. Other studios use their facilities as well as the animation studios here for films like, Finding Nemo and Happy Feet. Then there's also Warners in Queensland. More specifically, Callan Park, across the road from my house is becoming very popular for movie shoots. Local and US movies. Almost every day there is a film crew there shooting something. Sometimes I get the nerve up to ask what they are shooting. Yesterday, they were shooting a scene with two guys riding horses back and forth. They must have done forty takes of the same scene. I could see from my couch. One reason movie makers like Callan Park is because it was once a psychiatric hospital but most of the buildings are empty now and there are lots of little streets throughout the park. They are mostly old buildings so they can easily be made to look like various things. All they did for Accidents Happen was put up some little white picket fences and bring in a couple of 1950s American cars and an ambulance. I was impressed by the lighting rig. I swear it looked like a UFO. It was the biggest crane I've ever seen. I was told that Wolverine was filmed there too but I didn't see them. It's a big park. I could always drop in on Hugh down at his office at Fox. Mark in New Hollywood. On 15/04/2010, at 11:04 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Isn't it weird what they do with films and how they turn something > into something else? Makes you wonder why they didn't just pick a > place that looks more like what they want to begin with, but I > suppose getting a cheap location and then transforming it is cheaper. > > They do lots of film shoots here too (not so much when our $ is > almost at par with the US one though.) > > They filmed one of the Hulk movies here and they turned part of > Yonge Street into Harlem. I remember being down there after it was > transformed but not while they were shooting and wondering how the > Apollo Theater had landed in Toronto. > > John Malkevich, Bruce Willis and a few more have been in Toronto > recently. A few weeks ago, John Malkevich almost literally ran into > my son. We were on the sidewalk trying to decide which way to go and > he was on his cellphone and had to brush by Matt trying to get past > us. > > > > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > Cc: jonipeople LIST > Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 6:56:32 AM > Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) > > > PS On a completely irrelevant note, Geena Davis is in Australia at > the moment promoting her new movie, Accidents Happen which was > filmed across the road from my house. They turned part of Callan > Park into a US mid western town. They were there for several weeks > and I chatted to the crew when I walked my dog. The park is becoming > a movie magnet. Wolverine was also filmed there as well as many > others. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:43:49 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: need Joni recommendations Come on. help out Rich! Be sure and copy him on the email. From: Rich Kochman [mailto:RichKochman@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:50 AM To: les@jonimitchell.com Subject: need Joni recommendations If you can spare 15-20 minutes, I'd love recommendations from you for 20-30 songs I can put together into a nice Joni Mitchell mix/retrospective. The same way I tend to scoff at any of the James Taylor "Greatest Hits" discs as really only scratching the surface of his incredible career, I'm concerned that something like "Hits" which seems to focus more on the radio friendly songs I already know (Big Yellow Taxi, Circle Game, Woodstock, Help Me, Both Sides, etc) is going to overlook gems that a fan of the genre / artist is going to really appreciate, but not really get exposed to otherwise. That said, if "Hits" or some other compilation is the way for me to go, then just say the word. Many thanks in advance for your help with this. - -Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:02:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Odds and Ends - now movies and NJC hi Mark, Winnipeg has hosted many movies as well...Shall We Dance starring Susan Sarandon and Richard Gere. Exciting times. As well, You Kill Me was shot here..one scene was in a house just a few houses down from us, and then another scene was shot in a big house across the street. Sir Ben Kingsley and Tea Leone were there. At the time, I was working in a bookstore and we were invited to stay open overnight to provide the back ground scenes. At the time, i didnt really know much about Tea so I was not rattled at all when she came into the store, asked me for recommendations of my favourite books and 200 dollars later, voila ;-) Lots of Canadian authors...I felt so proud of meself haha! She's a sweetheart, btw. Very down to earth. not pretentious one bit. I stood a few feet away from Ben Kingsley. I dont have the nerve nor do I like to bother them when they are working, and it was wonderful to be up close and personal. Brad Pitt was here for a movie too. They turned a street downtown into the Wild West, great fun to see that too. Ive done a number of background acting gigs here, and it's so much fun, if you ever get the chance, do it. It's hard work, and lots of standing around, but it's also a great way to see how much work goes into making a film. I think it's cool that they are shooting and remaking your park look like something else. No wonder the movies are being made there, Mark, it's just so darned beautiful. Im a big fan of Geena Davis..so you'll have to let us know when you see her ;)) Mags - --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Odds and Ends - now movies and NJC To: "Catherine McKay" Cc: "jonipeople LIST" Received: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 9:30 AM I know, right? I just had to laugh when I heard that they turned Bowen in north Queensland into Darwin in the 1940s for the movie, Australia. They turned one small tropical town in northern Australia into another small tropical town in northern Australia. Huh? What's up with that? It seems Toronto is the new New York. Do they film anything there anymore? Since Fox Studios opened up in Sydney, movie making has become one of the biggest industries here. They are not just Fox movies though. Other studios use their facilities as well as the animation studios here for films like, Finding Nemo and Happy Feet. Then there's also Warners in Queensland. More specifically, Callan Park, across the road from my house is becoming very popular for movie shoots. Local and US movies. Almost every day there is a film crew there shooting something. Sometimes I get the nerve up to ask what they are shooting. Yesterday, they were shooting a scene with two guys riding horses back and forth. They must have done forty takes of the same scene. I could see from my couch. One reason movie makers like Callan Park is because it was once a psychiatric hospital but most of the buildings are empty now and there are lots of little streets throughout the park. They are mostly old buildings so they can easily be made to look like various things. All they did for Accidents Happen was put up some little white picket fences and bring in a couple of 1950s American cars and an ambulance. I was impressed by the lighting rig. I swear it looked like a UFO. It was the biggest crane I've ever seen. I was told that Wolverine was filmed there too but I didn't see them. It's a big park. I could always drop in on Hugh down at his office at Fox. Mark in New Hollywood. On 15/04/2010, at 11:04 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Isn't it weird what they do with films and how they turn something > into something else? Makes you wonder why they didn't just pick a > place that looks more like what they want to begin with, but I > suppose getting a cheap location and then transforming it is cheaper. > > They do lots of film shoots here too (not so much when our $ is > almost at par with the US one though.) > > They filmed one of the Hulk movies here and they turned part of > Yonge Street into Harlem. I remember being down there after it was > transformed but not while they were shooting and wondering how the > Apollo Theater had landed in Toronto. > > John Malkevich, Bruce Willis and a few more have been in Toronto > recently. A few weeks ago, John Malkevich almost literally ran into > my son. We were on the sidewalk trying to decide which way to go and > he was on his cellphone and had to brush by Matt trying to get past > us. > > > > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > Cc: jonipeople LIST > Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 6:56:32 AM > Subject: Re: Odds and Ends (Cherokee Louise) > > > PS On a completely irrelevant note, Geena Davis is in Australia at > the moment promoting her new movie, Accidents Happen which was > filmed across the road from my house. They turned part of Callan > Park into a US mid western town. They were there for several weeks > and I chatted to the crew when I walked my dog. The park is becoming > a movie magnet. Wolverine was also filmed there as well as many > others. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:07:56 -0700 From: Leah Welborn Subject: new friends, fiona, etc. (ljc) LJC is little Joni content, right? That's what I mean. Thank you all again for the warm welcome. Y'all really are so cool. Re: Fiona (for Stephen and anyone else interested): If you're interested in hearing Fiona's two latest recordings, she has two songs on the new jazz album Dave Palmer produced. The album is called, "The Best is Yet to Come - the Songs of Cy Coleman." The whole album is dreamy. Fiona sings Why Try to Change me Now and I Walk a Little Faster. Really beautiful torch song arrangements. Lush. Yum. Listening to it right now. On another note, I live in LA, but am moving to Denver in two weeks. Anyone on the list in either city? xoxox Leah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:21:59 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: FW: need Joni recommendations Hi Rich - I'm with you regarding the idea that "Greatest Hits" albums typically containing the songs that you're pretty much tired of hearing. Of course, in Joni's case she was never a hit machine, and she's assembled a number of compilations of her own, so check those out too but to my tastes she tended to use those to push some of her stuff that was not popular, sometimes for good reason. Anyway, here's what I filled up a CD with for ya....with 8 seconds left over: 1. Shadows & Light (Hissing Of Summer Lawns) Joni's work is all about duality to what better way to start than this hypnotic track. 2. Little Green (Blue) Because her angst behind the decision to give up her daughter drove so much of her work. 3. That Song About The Midway (Clouds) 4. Harlem in Havana (Taming The Tiger) Two great carnival songs with some wonderful music and great visual imagery. 5. Down To You (Court And Spark) a beautiful mini-symphony 6. Ethiopia (Dog Eat Dog) One of my favorite 80's songs of hers, again powerful musically and lyrically (you could say that about most of her stuff I guess) 7. The Magdalene Laundries (Turbulent Indigo) More brilliant social commentary 8. Strong And Wrong (Shine) And we complete the triad of social songs with this recent one which I like a lot 9. Barangrill (For The Roses) Sounds light but it's anything but 10. Two Grey Rooms (Night Ride Home) Very poignant story, with a melody to match and Joni on the piano in the 90's 11. Furry Sings The Blues (Hejira) For the imagery and story-telling 12. Cactus Tree (Song To A Seagull) lovely song and one of Joni's songs that she places herself right in the middle of. 13. Conversation (Ladies Of The Canyon) Again, a pretty song with a deep emotional core. 14. Man To Man (Wild Things Run Fast) Just heard this one today, and like Cactus Tree it matches some lovely melody with some personal insights 15. The Dawntreader (Travelogue) Originally on her debut, she upped the ante by filling in the blanks with an array of musical color and really took the song to another level. 16. The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines (Shadows & Light) 17. Hejira (Shadows & Light) The band behind Joni on this live album is nothing short of astonishing. The playfulness of Dry Cleaner makes you smile while the musicianship blows your mind. As for Hejira, it's beyond calling it a "song". It is a piece of high art, containing as much beauty as anything I know of, and again the musicians, particulary Jaco Pastorius & Michael Brecker are simply phenomal. Had to close with this one because it cannot be topped. There you are, Rich - seek, burn, and enjoy a sampling of the body of work of one of the finest composers of our time or any time. Bob NP: Counting Crows, "Private Archipelago" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:41:25 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: RE: Odds and Ends now njc Oops. Apologies to Robin -- senior moment. And Anita, when can we expect *your* next cd? Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:50:57 +0100 > Subject: Re: Odds and Ends > From: lawntreader@googlemail.com > To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > CC: littlebreen@live.com; joni@smoe.org > > Walt wrote: > > "As much as I love Joni's original version of Cherokee Louise, and Anita & the > Mutts' version," > > YAYYYYYYyyyy I am in the band! Make way Blackburn! > > Walt, I am deeply and profoundly grateful, but I sadly cannot claim > credit for this one. I think it might be Robin that you mean. I am > just the raving fan. > > I also remember the story about Cherokee Louise not being Cherokee, > but it didn't scan as well into the song. As for biting off this > particular pachyderm, I am sure there is much sympathy generally in > JMDL for this position > Love > Anita x _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:55:45 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: FW: need Joni recommendations What do people think about supplementing "Hits" with "Misses"? I thought it was so clever how she released two compilations so she could dig a little deeper into her catalogue. - -Corey On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, wrote: > Hi Rich - I'm with you regarding the idea that "Greatest Hits" albums > typically containing the songs that you're pretty much tired of hearing. > Of course, in Joni's case she was never a hit machine, and she's assembled > a number of compilations of her own, so check those out too but to my > tastes she tended to use those to push some of her stuff that was not > popular, sometimes for good reason. > > Anyway, here's what I filled up a CD with for ya....with 8 seconds left > over: > > 1. Shadows & Light (Hissing Of Summer Lawns) Joni's work is all about > duality to what better way to start than this hypnotic track. > 2. Little Green (Blue) Because her angst behind the decision to give up > her daughter drove so much of her work. > 3. That Song About The Midway (Clouds) > 4. Harlem in Havana (Taming The Tiger) Two great carnival songs with some > wonderful music and great visual imagery. > 5. Down To You (Court And Spark) a beautiful mini-symphony > 6. Ethiopia (Dog Eat Dog) One of my favorite 80's songs of hers, again > powerful musically and lyrically (you could say that about most of her > stuff I guess) > 7. The Magdalene Laundries (Turbulent Indigo) More brilliant social > commentary > 8. Strong And Wrong (Shine) And we complete the triad of social songs with > this recent one which I like a lot > 9. Barangrill (For The Roses) Sounds light but it's anything but > 10. Two Grey Rooms (Night Ride Home) Very poignant story, with a melody to > match and Joni on the piano in the 90's > 11. Furry Sings The Blues (Hejira) For the imagery and story-telling > 12. Cactus Tree (Song To A Seagull) lovely song and one of Joni's songs > that she places herself right in the middle of. > 13. Conversation (Ladies Of The Canyon) Again, a pretty song with a deep > emotional core. > 14. Man To Man (Wild Things Run Fast) Just heard this one today, and like > Cactus Tree it matches some lovely melody with some personal insights > 15. The Dawntreader (Travelogue) Originally on her debut, she upped the > ante by filling in the blanks with an array of musical color and really > took the song to another level. > 16. The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines (Shadows & Light) > 17. Hejira (Shadows & Light) The band behind Joni on this live album is > nothing short of astonishing. The playfulness of Dry Cleaner makes you > smile while the musicianship blows your mind. As for Hejira, it's beyond > calling it a "song". It is a piece of high art, containing as much beauty > as anything I know of, and again the musicians, particulary Jaco Pastorius > & Michael Brecker are simply phenomal. Had to close with this one because > it cannot be topped. > > There you are, Rich - seek, burn, and enjoy a sampling of the body of work > of one of the finest composers of our time or any time. > > Bob > > NP: Counting Crows, "Private Archipelago" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Bob, just realizing he didn't put anything from Don Juan on Rich's CD... NP: The Cure, "A Foolish Arrangement" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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And Anita, when can we > expect > *your* next cd? > > > Walt "Little" Breen > > Let the walls come tumbling down > Let them fall right on the ground > Let all the dogs go running free > The wild and the gentle dogs > Kenneled in me > (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) > Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com > > > >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:50:57 +0100 >> Subject: Re: Odds and Ends >> From: lawntreader@googlemail.com >> To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca >> CC: littlebreen@live.com; joni@smoe.org >> >> Walt wrote: >> >> "As much as I love Joni's original version of Cherokee Louise, and >> Anita & > the >> Mutts' version," >> >> YAYYYYYYyyyy I am in the band! Make way Blackburn! >> >> Walt, I am deeply and profoundly grateful, but I sadly cannot claim >> credit for this one. I think it might be Robin that you mean. I am >> just the raving fan. >> >> I also remember the story about Cherokee Louise not being Cherokee, >> but it didn't scan as well into the song. As for biting off this >> particular pachyderm, I am sure there is much sympathy generally in >> JMDL for this position >> Love >> Anita x > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more > from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL > :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:06:04 -0600 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: y'all are so cool (now with Joni content) Thank you Paul C and others for this introduction to the Pied Pumkin. I was instantly hooked on their music. I am sorry that it took 40 years to find out about it. I sent this story and links to all my friends upon hearing "Angels Do." I rarely send something out to burden my friends, but they'll forgive me this one. It is oddly in character for Joni to be driving a beat up Ford Pinto through the wilds of BC. I don't see her driving some land-boat, and I'd speculate that it was a borrowed vehicle. Who knows Joni's cars? What a fascinating time and place to be. I have longed for such a scene all my life, to be is a beautiful community with a network of musicians and artists with whom to create the story of our lives. We visited this area (Vancouver Island) on our honeymoon in 1976 and fell in love with its beauty and many wonders. I can understand why Joni keeps a place there. I might take it over heaven myself, given the choice. Bonneville Bruce NP "Angels Do" > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:06:26 +0100 > From: Paul Castle > Subject: Re: y'all are so cool (now with Joni content) > Whenever I hear talk of dulcimer makers I think of this > story (which your uncle might find interesting too) - > it's been posted on the jmdl a couple of times before - > about dulcimer player Rick Scott who was picked up by > Joni in 1971 when he was hitch-hiking up the Sechelt > coast north of Vancouver and how she commissioned > his friend, JR Stone, to make her a dulcimer. > > The story is still online here - http://bit.ly/blx7LE > > very best to all > PaulC > > Looking through Rick's bio/publicity material - > he was (and still is) a member of Pied Pumkin, a > legendary (in the Canadian folk world, at least) > band with Shari Ulrich and Joe Mock - I noticed a > brief mention about being picked up by Joni when > he was hitch-hiking up the Sechelt coast. I wrote > and asked him about it and that is what he wrote > back. > > Very best to all > PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: FW: need Joni recommendations That's what I was going to suggest, partly because I'm too lazy to think of songs I'd recommend (and because my opinion changes with the wind), but also because (apparently) it was Joan herself who selected the songs for these albums, so they are no doubt special to her. A number of years ago, I made a compilation for one of my nephews who asked me for recommendations. Although I'll be damned if I can remember what I chose, I'm sure my list was very similar to Bob Muller's. As I recall, I went for one or two from each album and had a helluva time narrowing it down, but I ended up sending him two CDs worth of stuff. I also thought about the other compilations Joni put together in recent years, but my reaction was also similar to Mullers: there's a lot of pushing of the Geffen years stuff and, while there's nothing particularly wrong with that and they are Joni's selections, there's a bit too much from one particular era or decade, when there's so much more to choose from that would cover a broader spectrum of her work. ________________________________ From: Corey Blake To: joni@smoe.org Cc: RichKochman@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 1:55:45 PM Subject: Re: FW: need Joni recommendations What do people think about supplementing "Hits" with "Misses"? I thought it was so clever how she released two compilations so she could dig a little deeper into her catalogue. - -Corey On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:21 AM, wrote: > Hi Rich - I'm with you regarding the idea that "Greatest Hits" albums > typically containing the songs that you're pretty much tired of hearing. > Of course, in Joni's case she was never a hit machine, and she's assembled > a number of compilations of her own, so check those out too but to my > tastes she tended to use those to push some of her stuff that was not > popular, sometimes for good reason. > > Anyway, here's what I filled up a CD with for ya....with 8 seconds left > over: > > 1. Shadows & Light (Hissing Of Summer Lawns) Joni's work is all about > duality to what better way to start than this hypnotic track. > 2. Little Green (Blue) Because her angst behind the decision to give up > her daughter drove so much of her work. > 3. That Song About The Midway (Clouds) > 4. Harlem in Havana (Taming The Tiger) Two great carnival songs with some > wonderful music and great visual imagery. > 5. Down To You (Court And Spark) a beautiful mini-symphony > 6. Ethiopia (Dog Eat Dog) One of my favorite 80's songs of hers, again > powerful musically and lyrically (you could say that about most of her > stuff I guess) > 7. The Magdalene Laundries (Turbulent Indigo) More brilliant social > commentary > 8. Strong And Wrong (Shine) And we complete the triad of social songs with > this recent one which I like a lot > 9. Barangrill (For The Roses) Sounds light but it's anything but > 10. Two Grey Rooms (Night Ride Home) Very poignant story, with a melody to > match and Joni on the piano in the 90's > 11. Furry Sings The Blues (Hejira) For the imagery and story-telling > 12. Cactus Tree (Song To A Seagull) lovely song and one of Joni's songs > that she places herself right in the middle of. > 13. Conversation (Ladies Of The Canyon) Again, a pretty song with a deep > emotional core. > 14. Man To Man (Wild Things Run Fast) Just heard this one today, and like > Cactus Tree it matches some lovely melody with some personal insights > 15. The Dawntreader (Travelogue) Originally on her debut, she upped the > ante by filling in the blanks with an array of musical color and really > took the song to another level. > 16. The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines (Shadows & Light) > 17. Hejira (Shadows & Light) The band behind Joni on this live album is > nothing short of astonishing. The playfulness of Dry Cleaner makes you > smile while the musicianship blows your mind. As for Hejira, it's beyond > calling it a "song". It is a piece of high art, containing as much beauty > as anything I know of, and again the musicians, particulary Jaco Pastorius > & Michael Brecker are simply phenomal. Had to close with this one because > it cannot be topped. > > There you are, Rich - seek, burn, and enjoy a sampling of the body of work > of one of the finest composers of our time or any time. > > Bob > > NP: Counting Crows, "Private Archipelago" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Do you Dig Comics? http://www.digcomics.com Mailing List - http://coreyblake.googlepages.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:26:10 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: need Joni recommendations From: "Les Irvin" > Come on. help out Rich! Be sure and copy him on the email. > If you can spare 15-20 minutes, I'd love recommendations from you for > 20-30 > songs I can put together into a nice Joni Mitchell mix/retrospective. Here's my list for ya, Rich: (song/album) (no particular order) 1. California/Blue 2. Trouble Child>Twisted/Court&Spark 3. Songs To Aging Children Come/Clouds 4. For Free/Ladies of the Canyon 5. The Priest/LOTC 6. Song For Sharon/Hejira 7. Refuge of the Roads/Hejira 8. You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio/For The Roses 9. Electricity/FTR 10. Overture-Cotton Avenue/Don Juan's 11. The Silky Veils of Ardor/Don Juan's 12. Goodbye Pork Pie Hat/Mingus 13. Don't Interrupt The Sorrow/Hissing of Summer Lawns 14. Shades of Scarlett Conquering/Hissing 15. The Hissing of Summer Lawns/Hissing 16. If I Had a Heart/Shine 17. If/Shine 18. Dry Cleaner From Des Moines/Shadows & Light 19. Rainy Night House/Miles of Aisles 20. Cactus Tree/MOA 21. Sex Kills/Turbulent Indigo 22. Yvette In English/Turbulent Indigo 23. Two Grey Rooms/Night Ride Home 24. Shiny Toys/Dog Eat Dog 25. Number One/Chalk Mark 26. You Dream Flat Tires/Wild Things 27. Moon At The Window/Wild Things 28. Be Cool/Wild Things Damn, I think I will make this for a car tape.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:25:19 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: FW: need Joni recommendations Nice list, Bob. I'm not even going to attempt my own. I had to comment about this one: > 6. Ethiopia (Dog Eat Dog) One of my favorite 80's songs of hers, again > powerful musically and lyrically (you could say that about most of her > stuff I guess) I was not overly fond of this song until I saw 'The Fiddle and the Drum'. Something about the dancing and the visual aspect of it really made it click for me. I've almost done a 180 on 'Ethiopia'. Also, although you can't argue with this: > 17. Hejira (Shadows & Light) The band behind Joni on this live album is > nothing short of astonishing. The playfulness of Dry Cleaner makes you > smile while the musicianship blows your mind. As for Hejira, it's beyond > calling it a "song". It is a piece of high art, containing as much beauty > as anything I know of, and again the musicians, particulary Jaco Pastorius > & Michael Brecker are simply phenomal. Had to close with this one because > it cannot be topped. I would be very tempted to put the Shadows and Light 'Amelia' in there right before it. Pat Metheny's beautiful guitar solo at the end is such a nice bridge between the two songs. But, there are time constraints and maybe that would be too much from S&L (sorry Catherine - he-he). Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:58:45 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people Hi Leah- Nice to hear about your Joni-journey, and especially great that you were able to cut your way through the cultural jungle to find some great music. Court & Spark is, I think, Joni's biggest seller; at the time, she was on the charts, it seemed she was destined for major stardom. Had she stuck to a musical formula, maybe she would have had Madonna-like success. But, artist that she is, she did not want to be stuck in a box, and pursued her muse, went further into jazz, and went astray of pop music, and mainstream popularity. What Joni album next? I would suggest Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, or the sequel to C&S (& somewhat jazzier) Hissing of Summer Lawns. I am a big Fiona fan, too, and have seen her in concert several times. I think she is, like Joni, an artistic genius. Pawn is my favorite but they are all good-though I greatly prefer the "leaked" version of EM to the official release. Great that you are getting into playing music. What instrument do you play? RR ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #109 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------