From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #107 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 14 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 107 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: paciderm/Pachyderm [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Vi-Co (was:Re: useless info about Javex) NJC [Moni Kellermann ] Re: CLOUDS [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Vi-Co (was:Re: useless info about Javex) NJC [Catherine McKay ] 25 Year Old Northern Lights [Paul Castle ] Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights [Mags ] Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights [Kate Johnson ] Re: CLOUDS [Anita G ] Re: Cherokee Louise by Robin [Anita G ] Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights [Anita G ] Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights [Kate Johnson ] Re: CLOUDS [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Hello Beautiful Joni-people [Leah Welborn ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people [Michael Paz ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] y'all are so cool (njc) [Leah Welborn ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC [] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people [Anita G ] Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC [Michael Paz ] fiona (njc) [Leah Welborn ] Re: fiona (njc) [Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com] Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights ["Mark" ] Re: Cherokee Louise by Robin ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:33:34 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: paciderm/Pachyderm Something like, "boom tish" or the lyrics to Little Drummer Boy: "Pah- rum-pa-pa-pum". Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:10:32 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Vi-Co (was:Re: useless info about Javex) NJC newspaper ad from 1934: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2371&dat=19340804&id=7cQpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0EEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2294,4195915 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi-Co http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalchinook/78949701/ moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:09:19 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: Re: paciderm/Pachyderm Remember this being discussed not long after I joined the jmdl - did a search and it turns out it was back in 1999 - see http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni/v01.n127 in particular, this post > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:21:40 EDT > From: DKasc13293@aol.com > Subject: Re: Hanging on your boom-boom pacyderm > The first hand story for Kay Ashley (the person who posed the question to > Joni) is that boom boom pac is reference to the cue in a jazz set, when there > is a improv going on or just free form movement and the vocalist or other > instrumentalists take their cue from the drummer to synchronize again and get > back to the main melody. > So Joni is referencing all those other pretty girls/singers coming around > hanging on your "cue" to join in. very best to all PaulC PS Wonder whatever happened to CaTGirl? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:30:06 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: CLOUDS Very cool, Sam. MP3's are fine, but Joni is meant to be listened to in terms of ALBUMS. Most of her albums are somewhat thematic and sequenced specifically for a reason. And I would also say that any unreleased stuff (concerts, early songs, etc) can best be appreciated when you fully have your arms around her body of work. Having said all that, I was a latecomer to Clouds - picked up on Joni with Court & Spark and moved forward. Everything prior to C&S I didn't get into until the late 80's/early 90's. It is one of my favorite albums of hers, however - I love the starkness of it, the melodies, I can really mellow out listening to it. Bob NP: Smashing Pumpkins, "Hummer" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Maybe Joni drank it. ________________________________ From: Moni Kellermann To: Catherine McKay ; JMDL Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 5:10:32 AM Subject: Vi-Co (was:Re: useless info about Javex) NJC newspaper ad from 1934: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2371&dat=19340804&id=7cQpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0EEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2294,4195915 Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi-Co http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalchinook/78949701/ moni k. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:22:55 +0200 From: B Lux Subject: Cherokee Louise by Robin Can I just say how much I like Cherokee Louise in Robin and Dave's interpretation on Safaris to the Heart. I only know that song from Travelogue and always felt very ambivalent about it. But the way Robin sings it, it has a punch and a sense of rebellion in it that a reminds you of the teenagers that it is about. She lifts that song above the sad and depressing. Well done Robin! Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:26:39 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: 25 Year Old Northern Lights Just stumbled across this article in the Winnipeg Free Press (Hi Mags) about the 25 year old famine relief charity single 'Tears Are Not Enough' sung by Canadian super group 'Northern Lights' - >a hastily assembled group that included Neil Young, >Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, Burton Cummings, >Anne Murray and Oscar Peterson, with proceeds >going to famine-relief projects in Ethiopia. see http://bit.ly/aldGkI Talking about the recording session - > Inside, organizers hung a sign on the door that > read: "Check your egos at the door." > As depicted in the '85 CBC documentary "Tears > Are Not Enough," it was advice the gathering > seemed to heed. > While Young and Mitchell's stars eclipsed some > of the other musicians present, they mingled > comfortably with everyone else there. > During a day that Allen estimates lasted about > 16 hours, Mitchell plugged away at an arcade > billiards game called 8 Ball Action, Cummings > entertained the crowd with his Rodney Dangerfield > impersonation, and comedians Candy and Aykroyd > quipped back and forth at one another. and producer David Foster reminisces about his little run-in with Neil Young > And the "no egos" mandate was relevant during one > of the day's most memorable moments, which nearly > every contributor can recall with crystal clarity. > For his solo, Young was to bray the line: "Somehow > our innocence is loooooost." After one particular take, > Foster winced slightly and informed Young that he was > "a little flat." > Young didn't miss a beat. > "That's my sound, man," Young replied with an > ever-so-slight smile. > "Classic," Foster says now. "Like, OK - I'm not going > to argue with Neil Young. It's so stupid, but I was a > lot younger and brash. Looking on YouTube, I found that this little episode in the studio with Neil Young had been filmed - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_5ISeBOv1k Sadly no shots of Joni playing 8 Ball Action, but pleased to also spot Bruce Cockburn singing a line on the final video. Very best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights hey Paul, thanks for the head's up on the article about Tears Are Not Enough. It's hard to believe that it has been 25 years! Just a little story about Anne Murray and her performance/contribution. I heard that she did just the one take as it was pitch perfect. So nice to see clips of Joni singing her heart out as well as Gordon Lightfoot et al. Nice way to start the day. Mags - --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Paul Castle wrote: From: Paul Castle Subject: 25 Year Old Northern Lights To: joni@smoe.org Cc: "Mags" Received: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:26 AM Just stumbled across this article in the Winnipeg Free Press (Hi Mags) about the 25 year old famine relief charity single 'Tears Are Not Enough' sung by Canadian super group 'Northern Lights' - >a hastily assembled group that included Neil Young, >Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, Burton Cummings, >Anne Murray and Oscar Peterson, with proceeds >going to famine-relief projects in Ethiopia. see http://bit.ly/aldGkI Talking about the recording session - > Inside, organizers hung a sign on the door that > read: "Check your egos at the door." > As depicted in the '85 CBC documentary "Tears > Are Not Enough," it was advice the gathering > seemed to heed. > While Young and Mitchell's stars eclipsed some > of the other musicians present, they mingled > comfortably with everyone else there. > During a day that Allen estimates lasted about > 16 hours, Mitchell plugged away at an arcade > billiards game called 8 Ball Action, Cummings > entertained the crowd with his Rodney Dangerfield > impersonation, and comedians Candy and Aykroyd > quipped back and forth at one another. and producer David Foster reminisces about his little run-in with Neil Young > And the "no egos" mandate was relevant during one > of the day's most memorable moments, which nearly > every contributor can recall with crystal clarity. > For his solo, Young was to bray the line: "Somehow > our innocence is loooooost." After one particular take, > Foster winced slightly and informed Young that he was > "a little flat." > Young didn't miss a beat. > "That's my sound, man," Young replied with an > ever-so-slight smile. > "Classic," Foster says now. "Like, OK - I'm not going > to argue with Neil Young. It's so stupid, but I was a > lot younger and brash. Looking on YouTube, I found that this little episode in the studio with Neil Young had been filmed - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_5ISeBOv1k Sadly no shots of Joni playing 8 Ball Action, but pleased to also spot Bruce Cockburn singing a line on the final video. Very best to all PaulC Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:38:32 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights On 13-Apr-10, at 8:28 AM, Mags wrote: > I heard that she did just the one take as it > was pitch perfect. - -- I heard the story a little differently. Actually I think I saw this on a doc about it. The producer asked her to sing her line several times, which she did in a cooperative and humble fashion, and then the producer realized that her first take had been the best and that's the one he used. Kate http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:47:26 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: CLOUDS Hi Sam! Welcome indeed to JMDL. How wonderful to have that beautiful album with the astonishing self portrait. My brother told me Joni's second album was about to be released and I caught a bus and waited outside for the record shop to open to buy it. I was so excited! When I first played it on my record player, I remember thinking that Joni's voice sounded very different on 'Clouds' after 'Song To A Seagull.' Now I think (techies help) that there was a different equalisation and less reverb on her voice. It makes Joni's voice less light weight, I feel. As Bob says, it certainly is stark. It remains a favourite album of mine. Enjoy and welcome again! Love Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:50:51 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Cherokee Louise by Robin I'd go with that, Bene. There is a bounce in the way Robin sings it that gives the song a quite different feel Anita On 13 April 2010 13:22, B Lux wrote: > Can I just say how much I like Cherokee Louise in Robin and Dave's > interpretation on Safaris to the Heart. I only know that song from > Travelogue and always felt very ambivalent about it. But the way Robin > sings it, it has a punch and a sense of rebellion in it that a reminds > you of the teenagers that it is about. She lifts that song above the > sad and depressing. Well done Robin! > > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:05:12 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights So nice to see clips of Joni singing her heart out as well > Mags > Seeing Joni is, for me, the only thing that makes this worth sitting through and giving 8 minutes of your life to. Perhaps you need to be Canadian to be touched by this one? It must have been hard for Joni to not have pulled out her red pen and written 'cliche,cliche,cliche' all over the lyric. The rhymes are excruciating. I found it toe curlingly embarrassing, but bless the good intention! Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:16:16 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: 25 Year Old Northern Lights On 13-Apr-10, at 10:05 AM, Anita G wrote: > So nice to see clips of Joni singing her heart out as well > >> Mags >> > Seeing Joni is, for me, the only thing that makes this worth sitting > through and giving 8 minutes of your life to. Perhaps you need to be > Canadian to be touched by this one? > > It must have been hard for Joni to not have pulled out her red pen and > written 'cliche,cliche,cliche' all over the lyric. The rhymes are > excruciating. I found it toe curlingly embarrassing, but bless the > good intention! > Anita x I agree, Anita -- the lyrics are clunky. Kate http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:39:56 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: CLOUDS And Sam, I'll add that Anita's version of "I Think I Understand" from that album is one of the loveliest things I've ever heard. Bob NP: Rickie Lee, "It Must Be Love" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Mine's not as interesting as Robin's, but here it is: When I was a little child in the late 70s, I was obsessed with Judy Collins' album Both Sides Now. I played the hell out of that album, and it was the first music that was MEANINGFUL for me. It was on that album that I first saw Joni's name. I was born (in Texas) about a year after Blue came out, and my mom is not a person who's into music, so my (inexplicably) hippy self was left to wander in the wasteland and try to find more music for my soul. Mostly I found the Beatles and the Doors and Zeppelin. Fast forward to the early nineties, and I'm living in the Haight (boy, did I really buy into the stereotype!), listening to Ani DiFranco. She was the second BIG DEAL for me musically. I don't listen to her much anymore, but damn, that is one talented woman. The year I graduated college, Fiona Apple's debut album came out. I don't know if anybody on the list is a Fiona fan, but she is co-queen of my musical heart (with Joni, of course). But I digress. I mention Fiona because her music was the first to inspire me to try to play music (still working on that part). Now to the heart of the story (such as there is). I was in a restaurant in San Diego about 5 years ago, eating breakfast, watching the ocean, and the music playing was (I know now) Court and Spark. I was with my ex boyfriend, and he was indifferent to the music, but I was transfixed. I'd never heard it (I'm sure I must have heard Help Me before that, but it wasn't on my radar), and I couldn't believe it. I couldn't stop smiling and swaying and just blissing out to the music. When I got home, I called my best friend, who's mom was a bona fide hippy and is my source on all things 70s. "Katy," I says to her, "who sings that song Help Me?" Thus my sweet friend turned me on to Court & Spark. The odd thing is that, though I loved it, it didn't really hook me at the time. I listened to it a few dozen times, was puzzled over some of the lyrics (my hearing isn't very good), and was more or less distracted by whatever was happening in my life at the time. The album sat in my itunes playlist, along with a several hundred others. And then one day about six months ago, Free Man in Paris popped up on my playlist and swept me off my feet. It was one of those, "wait a minute, why did I miss this?" kind of moments. I swam in that album for weeks. Nothing but Court and Spark. Looked up all the lyrics, downloaded keyboard transcriptions to try out...Joni fever had been dormant, I guess, building to the crescendo that occurred that day. A Jodi-piphany. A kind of religious experience, truly. Since then I've done (and by done, I mean nonstop listening, thinking about, trying to play, general immersion) Blue (and can I just say OH MY G#D. Blue is the most amazing thing...it's like a prism. I can't believe that album - a miracle), and am now working on For the Roses. I've read Will You Take Me as I Am?, the little book from the 33 1/3 series that is a close reading of Court and Spark, and Girls Like Us. All of this just to say that though I'm a newbie, I have the fanaticism of a religious convert. I love listening (? reading?) to you all talk about your long term love of Joni, and learning from you all. So what album should I take on next? Thanks for indulging me, Leah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:54:23 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people Hey Leah, Thanks for the story - some very interesting bits of synchronicity that your path intersected with Joni's music and I know you are happy it did. I'm also a Fiona fan and a big Ani fan - strange though to have so little output from Ani after such a long fertile period, and of course Fiona had her own issues with Sony and getting her stuff out. I like everything she's done thus far. Given the period you're in, I would say keep moving forward and check out the amazing Hissing of Summer Lawns/Hejira/Don Juan's Reckless Daughter trio. Some of the most adventurous music made by ANYONE in the 70's, or any decade for that matter. And keep those thoughts coming. Bob NP: Joni, "Stormy Weather" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:28:16 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people Ani married my friend Mike Napolitano and they are in marital bliss alotho I betcha she is gonna drop a bunch of new stuff on us any minute. You can't keep a girl like that down for long. She is on our new record singing the song Freight Train. One of these days I will post the pictures on Facebook from those sessions. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 13, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Hey Leah, Thanks for the story - some very interesting bits of synchronicity that your path intersected with Joni's music and I know you are happy it did. I'm also a Fiona fan and a big Ani fan - strange though to have so little output from Ani after such a long fertile period, and of course Fiona had her own issues with Sony and getting her stuff out. I like everything she's done thus far. Given the period you're in, I would say keep moving forward and check out the amazing Hissing of Summer Lawns/Hejira/Don Juan's Reckless Daughter trio. Some of the most adventurous music made by ANYONE in the 70's, or any decade for that matter. And keep those thoughts coming. Bob NP: Joni, "Stormy Weather" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Bob NP: John Mayer, "Something's Missing" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:42:20 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC WE BOTH know that's true. Then you blink your eyes and their gone.... Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:34 PM, bob.muller@fluor.com wrote: Plus she's got that little baby, and I know from experience that they can monopolize a lot of time + make you realize that what you thought was soooo important before is...well, not as important as you thought. Bob NP: John Mayer, "Something's Missing" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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You vill feet een perfectlee heer. :) - -Kate, whose love of Joni's music also began with Help Me and the Court and Spark album, back in the 1970s http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:46:45 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC Yeah, but then they move back in. :-) Bob NP: Ryan Adams & The Cardinals, "Blossom" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:52:21 -0700 From: Leah Welborn Subject: y'all are so cool (njc) I don't quite have the hang of the list thing, responding and what not, so I'm responding here to the folks who've responded thus far to me. Randy: I had to giggle when I you asked what instrument I play, because what I do to my poor keyboard is so far from what anyone would call 'playing' it. I'm a beginner. I get the keyboard transcription of a song (working on River right now), and I label each note (C2/G2/C3 etc), and then I slowly, agonizingly slowly, plunk the thing out. Alternating, at the moment, between left hand and right. So looking forward to the day when I can do both hands at once! I also have the amazing good fortune of being blessed with an uncle who is a master craftsman of Appalachian dulcimers. I have two, and he's going to teach me to play over the summer. Michael: I'm so happy to hear that about Ani. She deserves all the goodness in the world. All, Re: Fiona Apple: I'm sooo happy to hear respect for Fiona. A lot of people got turned off of her after everything that happened in the wake of her first album. But she was 19, and had just written an amazing album that portrayed wisdom decades beyond her years. I cut her a lot of slack. Her most recent (though 5 years old now) album, Extraordinary Machine, is my favorite of hers. Her writing is, to me, Joni caliber stuff. She recently released two Cy Coleman songs on Dave Palmer's tribute album. They both make me cry, as her songs are wont to do. Very worth checking out. My brush with Fiona: I went to see her play a night of standards at Largo in LA. Hands down, without question, best show I've every seen. The place seats about 60 people, and the band was old school jazz men. After she finished, I went to the ladies room. Not knowing whether it was a single person kind of deal or not, I tried the knob. I thought I heard someone inside, but I wasn't sure...was the door locked or just stuck? I tried it again, with a little knock, and this time I heard distinctly, "Jesus Christ, wait one G#d damned minute!" in a pained voice. And in a few minutes la Fiona emerges, obviously having had a good long cry. Thank goodness she rushed right past me. I was ready to beg forgiveness. I felt about half an inch tall. I wonder what Joni thinks of Fiona. I would guess she may not be favorable toward her. So looking forward to getting to know you all better. Leah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:02:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC I can say that is definitely the case. Though we do still get out to see lots of music- we just take little Coltrane with us. I don't get to play in as many poker tourneys though. And the counterpart to that is, a lot of things become even more important. Our little guy was the major inspiration behind my new cd...more than anything else, it is a celebration of his birth. Victor Sent from Comcast mobile - -- Plus she's got that little baby, and I know from experience that they can monopolize a lot of time + make you realize that what you thought was soooo important before is...well, not as important as you thought. Bob NP: John Mayer, "Something's Missing" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:50:51 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people Kate, this made me laugh big time! And, Leah, your story was great to read. I always find it both interesting and touching to know how people come to find their way to Joni Mitchell's music. In some ways I also envy you. You will find yourself on such a journey. There will be much music that's bewildering, tuneless, dull or strange. Then there will be melodies and words that are so sublime they will take your breath away and you will wonder and marvel how anyone can find such expression. And then, 30 or 40 years later, you may may back to the music that was bewildering, dull and strange and find it so sublime that it takes your breath away and you will wonder how you missed it first time. If you are very,very,very lucky you will also get to a Joni Fest and say in the morning at breakfast something like 'Don't Interrupt The Sorrow' and fifty voices will say back 'Darn Right.' It's just amazing! May you enjoy every moment Love and hugs Anita x On 13 April 2010 20:46, Kate Johnson wrote: > On 13-Apr-10, at 12:15 PM, Leah Welborn wrote: > >> All of this just to say that though I'm a newbie, I have the fanaticism of >> a >> religious convert. I love listening (? reading?) to you all talk about >> your >> long term love of Joni, and learning from you all. >> > > Velkum, Miss Leah. > You vill feet een perfectlee heer. > :) > -Kate, whose love of Joni's music also began with Help Me and the Court and > Spark album, back in the 1970s ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:41:40 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC LMAO!!!! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:46 PM, bob.muller@fluor.com wrote: Yeah, but then they move back in. :-) Bob NP: Ryan Adams & The Cardinals, "Blossom" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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And on that cheerful note, welcome, Leah! ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Michael Paz Cc: joni@smoe.org; Leah Welborn Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 3:46:45 PM Subject: Re: Hello Beautiful Joni-people NJC Yeah, but then they move back in. :-) Bob N Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:28:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: y'all are so cool (njc) You managed just fine on the responding thing. Lucky you to have such a talented uncle. Thanks to fellow lister, Chuck E, I got a dulcimer a few years ago. They are fairly easy to play. Maybe they're not so easy to play well though. I never said I played it well! I also like Ani and Fiona, both excellent songwriters who have wonderful ways with words. And I love Ani's percussive guitar style. Sorry your personal experience with Fiona wasn't the best, but it shows she's human too. I love her voice. I think I'd be afraid to ask Joni what she thinks about singer X or singer Y. If she didn't like them, I'd feel disappointed somehow, which is foolish. ________________________________ From: Leah Welborn To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 3:52:21 PM Subject: y'all are so cool (njc) I don't quite have the hang of the list thing, responding and what not, so I'm responding here to the folks who've responded thus far to me. [...] I also have the amazing good fortune of being blessed with an uncle who is a master craftsman of Appalachian dulcimers. I have two, and he's going to teach me to play over the summer. Michael: I'm so happy to hear that about Ani. She deserves all the goodness in the world. All, Re: Fiona Apple: I'm sooo happy to hear respect for Fiona. A lot of people got turned off of her after everything that happened in the wake of her first album. But she was 19, and had just written an amazing album that portrayed wisdom decades beyond her years. I cut her a lot of slack. Her most recent (though 5 years old now) album, Extraordinary Machine, is my favorite of hers. Her writing is, to me, Joni caliber stuff. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:49:41 -0700 From: Leah Welborn Subject: fiona (njc) Thanks Catherine! I totally didn't mean to cast apsersions on Fiona...I hope it didn't come across that way. The encounter to me was indicative of how incredibly sensitive she is, and how emotionally devastating an intimate performance like that can be for an artist who puts all that she is into her songs. I just felt bad for interrupting her private moment. Anyway, I'm so happy to have found some like minded folks here. Thanks all for the warm welcome! Leah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:01:00 -0400 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: fiona (njc) Hi Leah and welcome to the list! Loved your post and story about mtg Fiona, and I absolutely took it the way you intended. Man! that must have been an incredible concert- funny, I always have thought her voice would suit jazz- wonder if there any recordings of it? I agree with you that her first album, at such a young age, was decades beyond her years. She remains one of my faves. best Stephen in Toronto NP: Natalie Merchant: Leave Your Sleep Thanks Catherine! I totally didn't mean to cast apsersions on Fiona...I hope it didn't come across that way. The encounter to me was indicative of how incredibly sensitive she is, and how emotionally devastating an intimate performance like that can be for an artist who puts all that she is into her songs. I just felt bad for interrupting her private moment. Anyway, I'm so happy to have found some like minded folks here. Thanks all for the warm welcome! Leah This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. 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Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Castle" Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:26 AM To: Cc: "Mags" Subject: 25 Year Old Northern Lights > Just stumbled across this article in the Winnipeg > Free Press (Hi Mags) about the 25 year old famine > relief charity single 'Tears Are Not Enough' sung > by Canadian super group 'Northern Lights' - >>a hastily assembled group that included Neil Young, >>Joni Mitchell, Gordon Lightfoot, Burton Cummings, >>Anne Murray and Oscar Peterson, with proceeds >>going to famine-relief projects in Ethiopia. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:08:18 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Cherokee Louise by Robin Hi Bene, While I agree that Robin does a great job of taking on the character of the frustrated teenager on Safaris to the Heart, I strongly suggest that you get your hands on 'Night Ride Home'. It's a 90s Joni Mitchell masterpiece (along with Turbulent Indigo). Musically, 'Cherokee Louise' is pretty much based on Joni's guitar playing on 'Night Ride Home' and I think you'd love it. And if you haven't heard 'Two Grey Rooms' you're missing something really special, in my opinion. A rare latter day Joni piano performance and a gorgeous song. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "B Lux" Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:22 AM To: "Joni List" ; "Dave Blackburn" ; Subject: Cherokee Louise by Robin > Can I just say how much I like Cherokee Louise in Robin and Dave's > interpretation on Safaris to the Heart. I only know that song from > Travelogue and always felt very ambivalent about it. But the way Robin > sings it, it has a punch and a sense of rebellion in it that a reminds > you of the teenagers that it is about. She lifts that song above the > sad and depressing. Well done Robin! > > Bene ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #107 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------