From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #104 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 11 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 104 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shiny Toys/Guilty Pleasure [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: You'e Hoping it's near folly" ["Mark" ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Anita G ] NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones [Catherine McKay ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Laura Stanley ] "River" and x-factor Denmark's version of American Idol [est86mlm@amerite] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [Anita G ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc ["Mark" ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc ["Mark" ] Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones [Mags ] Giving Don Henley his due, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Marcie ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Subject: Voices on videotape (NJC) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Bad lyrics, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Audio from Utube njc ["gene" ] Re: Safaris to the Heart [Mags ] Folly [mia _ ] Re: Safaris to the Heart [Dave Blackburn ] Folly: Thinkest thou that t'would be maybe something by Willy the Shake? [Walt Breen Subject: Re: Shiny Toys/Guilty Pleasure Russel, I have to agree with you there. Especially the Kevorkian Remix. Some others I like to dance to: Ladies Man (very smooth groove) and of course, Dancin' Clown. One song I never thought of as a song you could dance to until the Joni tribute show at the SOH is Snakes and Ladders. The girls did such a great dance routine to their harmonies. I wonder if anyone will ever record a cover of Shiny Toys. Mark in Sydney NP Snakes and Ladders PS The duet, Leather and Lace by Stevie Nicks and Don Henley was played on the radio at work the other day and the DJ mentioned that it was written about Stevie's relationship with Henley. Does anyone know if Joni had a relationship with Henley too? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 01:16:59 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: You'e Hoping it's near folly" You know for all of the years I have have listened to this song, I guess I had never really thought through what the connection between the lines "Some say it's in service, they say 'humble makes pure" and "You're hoping it's near Folly cause you're headed that way for sure" was. Now it makes perfect sense when I think of Folly as a place, like Barangrill. I think you're right, Dave. Joni was playing with the word 'folly' when she wrote this. Knowing you're headed for folly, either as foolish behavior or a place, and hoping you might find humility or purity or something positive somewhere along the way. For me, Barangrill is toying with the belief that there is such a thing as this wonderfully simple, uncomplicated life and knowing that it's an illusion. Maybe some people don't have the 'crazy you get from too much choice' but 'service' and 'humble makes pure' might be just as close to Folly as the other. I also recently saw the beautiful logic of this verse from 'Hejira' shortly after I wrote my review of 'The Fiddle and the Drum: In the church they light the candles And the wax rolls down like tears There is the hope and the hopelessness I've witnessed all these years candles=hope tears=hopelessness Wish I'd thought of it before I wrote the review. It would have fit in so well. As it was, I only got halfway there. Oh well. Sometimes I'm just plain dense. Mark in Seattle Still learning about Joni's music (you know life is for learning) - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Blackburn" Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:28 PM To: Cc: ; Subject: Re: You'e Hoping it's near folly" > Just to play devil's advocate here... > > After the fascinating thread a couple of years ago about the double > meanings (one literal and one more abstract) of the "humble makes pure" > line in this song I'd have to say that it's perfect;y possible, even > likely that Joni is doing the same cleverness in this line. A quick > Google search didn't turn up a town called Folly on the west coast but it > could be a small place in Canada or northern California I think. It just > seems to fit with the verbal double layer she was using in this song. > Even the title is of course a fictional "place" but one we can recognize > as a universal eatery. I don't see why Folly wouldn't qualify also. > > Dave > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:23 AM, PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > >>> From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >>> Subject: Re: FW: Website question >>> >>> >> referring to Folly Beach which is outside of Charleston, SC where I >>> live. >>> Any idea if that might be the case?> >>> >>> My guess is that she is using the word to mean "absurdity"...after all, >>> the next bit says "you just have to laugh 'cause it's all so crazy". >>> >> Bob, I'd have to agree with you; for all the years I've been >> listening >> to that song, I've always thought it was "folly" (as in "foolishness"). >> >> Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:22:05 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc . BUT when we invaded Iraq, it was a deal-breaker > for me and the entire act ran totally in reverse to what Christians are > supposed to believe...yet NONE of them seemed to mind. That total lack of > understanding of their own belief system made it REAL easy for me to walk > away from the whole Christian/church scene with no remorse. > > Bob > My dear brother Michael was a serious Buddhist at the time of a child abuse scandal and left because the head Buddhist explained away the issue as karma. He, like you,Bob, in your church was enraged at an explanation to something (like Iraq) that he saw as morally indefensible. MY brother thought that it was almost like saying that abuse survivors had something to learn from this experience ready for when they came round again. He just couldn't tolerate that. The pile of rage I felt myself when I finally gave up my work working with survivors of Catholic abuse felt being on fire. I come back over and over to the only thing that can make sense in me is the question I always end up asking 'How can I ever expect world peace when I can't even peace in myself.' I have no answer, because I know that there are many things for which I would pick up a gun myself to defend and I could imagine that I could be quite uncontained. Such is my experience of my anger and rage. It's such a BIG question and I simply struggle with it. I feel it's a real moral dilemma, For me the recent issue here on JMDL ,when I felt very hurt, brought a lot of those feelings up - a lot of stuff about personal boundaries and when does one's right to be expressive become oppressive and when does one's own rage and anger tip over and become the abuse of others, whether intended or perceived. I suppose one good thing I do feel about myself is that I DO own my shadow. It sometimes feels like a good way to start. And I don't struggle to apologise ito someone if they tell me that I have hurt them. Most of the time, I don't intend to hurt people so apologising to others whom I might have hurt, I find very easy. I don't think apologising has come very easily to recent Popes. Nor Generals who have bombed Innocents, come to that, Wishing Peace, Love and Light Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 04:25:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones This weekend only, Rickie Lee Jones is offering two free downloads on her website, in honour of her daughter's 22nd birthday. Happy birthday, Charlotte Rose! http://rickieleejones.com/charlotte.htm __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:00:06 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: joni on Studio 360 (briefly) Studio 360 on NPR was just doing a bit on environmentalist musicians, and I heard Joni talking. I have no idea what she said, but I heard that familiar cadence, and then "Big Yellow Taxi." Sorry to be fuzzy, I wasn't near the radio. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 05:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc Hi Anita, I have also noticed how religion and philosophy can be vain and cruel human attempts to explain things away. And I do believe peace has to begin with individuals, especially within homes and families where it is often the most challenging. My Polish grandfather used to tell me, "it is a cruel world." It amazes me how peaceful we do exist despite cruel human nature especially in crowded places where people like to live such as Tokyo and NYC. I really believe until we can stop feeding ourselves by killing animals, our species will live in denial of our own cruelty. I remember an Indian friend of mine telling me that to ingest the meat of a dead animal is to consume the anger of the animal's death. That makes sense to me given the stress hormones released when one is treated cruelly and as the body tries to survive being fatally wounded. Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Anita G wrote: . BUT when we invaded Iraq, it was a deal-breaker for me and the entire act ran totally in reverse to what Christians are supposed to believe...yet NONE of them seemed to mind. That total lack of understanding of their own belief system made it REAL easy for me to walk away from the whole Christian/church scene with no remorse. Bob My dear brother Michael was a serious Buddhist at the time of a child abuse scandal and left because the head Buddhist explained away the issue as karma. He, like you,Bob, in your church was enraged at an explanation to something (like Iraq) that he saw as morally indefensible. MY brother thought that it was almost like saying that abuse survivors had something to learn from this experience ready for when they came round again. He just couldn't tolerate that. The pile of rage I felt myself when I finally gave up my work working with survivors of Catholic abuse felt being on fire. I come back over and over to the only thing that can make sense in me is the question I always end up asking 'How can I ever expect world peace when I can't even peace in myself.' I have no answer, because I know that there are many things for which I would pick up a gun myself to defend and I could imagine that I could be quite uncontained. Such is my experience of my anger and rage. It's such a BIG question and I simply struggle with it. I feel it's a real moral dilemma, For me the recent issue here on JMDL ,when I felt very hurt, brought a lot of those feelings up - a lot of stuff about personal boundaries and when does one's right to be expressive become oppressive and when does one's own rage and anger tip over and become the abuse of others, whether intended or perceived. I suppose one good thing I do feel about myself is that I DO own my shadow. It sometimes feels like a good way to start. And I don't struggle to apologise ito someone if they tell me that I have hurt them. Most of the time, I don't intend to hurt people so apologising to others whom I might have hurt, I find very easy. I don't think apologising has come very easily to recent Popes. Nor Generals who have bombed Innocents, come to that, Wishing Peace, Love and Light Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:33:25 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: "River" and x-factor Denmark's version of American Idol Check out this version of River by Thomas Ring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGBYNzcWFm0 A schoolteacher in Copenhagen, he eventually won X-factor 2010. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) You heard her wrong, dude - what she said was that she typically sings songs that have meaning to her and that therefore Come Together was an unusual choice for her. Not her exact words, but what I remember her saying. Bob NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Wild Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones Thanks for that, Catherine - already have Naked Songs (and love it) but the other track is a welcome addition. I've had her latest "Balm In Gilead" in the mix this week, seems like it came and went without a lot of fanfare but I dig it. Bob NP: Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings, "Give It Back" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: You'e Hoping it's near folly" I'll but that; however I don't think that Folly Beach, South Carolina was the target of the line, just doesn't make any sense. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:12:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones I already have "Naked Songs" too and it's one of my favourites. The songs really are stripped down to the bare minimum - just Rickie and her guitar for the most part (I think!) - and the songs are often very different than they are on the studio albums. I also enjoy "Balm." I enjoy the questioning and spiritual quest she has been on lately. I mentioned back when it happened that I went to see her in Toronto around the time "Balm" came out and her live concerts are an amazing and soulful experience. ________________________________ From: Bob Muller To: Catherine McKay ; joni@smoe.org Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 10:52:10 AM Subject: Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones Thanks for that, Catherine - already have Naked Songs (and love it) but the other track is a welcome addition. I've had her latest "Balm In Gilead" in the mix this week, seems like it came and went without a lot of fanfare but I dig it. Bob NP: Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings, "Give It Back" __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) Yeah, it was something like that. Close enough! If anyone said the words to "Come together" were meaningful to them, I'd suggest counselling, or at least a visit from the BS Patrol. ________________________________ From: Bob Muller To: Randy Remote ; Joni Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 10:56:00 AM Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) You heard her wrong, dude - what she said was that she typically sings songs that have meaning to her and that therefore Come Together was an unusual choice for her. Not her exact words, but what I remember her saying. Bob NP: Rickie Lee Jones, "Wild Girl" __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:31:14 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc Yes, Laura, I agree in many way that religion and philosophy do indeed serve purposes in trying to explain what, at times, seem inexplicable. I am not sure I would use the description of 'vain and cruel attempts'. I think my description might be desperate, though there are undoubtedly aspects that emerge as both vain and cruel. We are desperate to avoid the truth of our own demise and our lack of importance. I think that the vanity is to think that we are so important, yet fail to protect those weaker than ourselves. As for peace beginning with individuals, well I'm right with you there. Reminds of that great Marge Piercy poem 'The Low Road' which says 'It goes on one at a time.' I often try and remember that line when I start doing what I call, going global. By that I mean seeing how awful all the wars are, that so many starve when they shouldn't be, what we are doing to the planet and so many other injustices. I then try and get off my global thinking and try to come back to what I can do one at a time and do them. It's the only thing that makes much sense to me. And then I put on some Joni music and I don't feel so crazy with it all! There's usually some way Joni has found words where I can't find any. As for you having Polish blood, now there's a people who have been carved up and know all about suffering. The stomping ground of Europe for centuries. As for the animals, I am a bit biased because I haven't eaten them for years and, when you haven't, it becomes quite bewildering that people can eat them. However, I have a friend who is an organic farmer and he really looks after his animlas, really cares about them and takes them to a slaughterhouse very close to his farm, so I think that's much better. I wouldn't personally wouldn't want to eat them, but he really does respect them. I hope that when his animals die they feel it's been a good exchange and maybe they won't be so angry! Love Anita > Hi Anita, > > I have also noticed how religion and philosophy can be vain and cruel human attempts to explain things away. And I do believe peace has to begin with individuals, especially within homes and families where it is often the most challenging. > > My Polish grandfather used to tell me, "it is a cruel world." It amazes me how peaceful we do exist despite cruel human nature especially in crowded places where people like to live such as Tokyo and NYC. > > I really believe until we can stop feeding ourselves by killing animals, our species will live in denial of our own cruelty. I remember an Indian friend of mine telling me that to ingest the meat of a dead animal is to consume the anger of the animal's death. That makes sense to me given the stress hormones released when one is treated cruelly and as the body tries to survive being fatally wounded. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:36:26 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) On 10 April 2010 16:14, Catherine McKay wrote: > If anyone said the words to > "Come together" were meaningful to them, I'd suggest counselling, or at least > a visit from the BS Patrol. > Cat, it depends how you look at. Maybe you have juju eyeballs :~) Yours meaningfully Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:53:36 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc Mark wrote: > > To bring in a little bit of Joni content: > > The general offer no apologies > He said "The soldiers erred in judgment..... That's why I think Joni has it all, Mark. As I said earlier 'And then I put on some Joni music and I don't feel so crazy with it all! There's usually some way Joni has found words where I can't find any.' Thanks for finding these words. When they had that announcement about Joni seeking quotes from folk for her album cover I wrote something like 'Joni, you found words where and when I thought there weren't any'. Well, it was something like that. I don't know if it makes sense but I know what I meant! Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:17:59 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Anita G" Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:53 AM To: "Mark" Cc: ; "Catherine McKay" ; "gene" ; ; "Gerald Notaro" ; "Laura Stanley" Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc > Mark wrote: >> >> To bring in a little bit of Joni content: >> >> The general offered no apologies >> He said "The soldiers erred in judgment..... > > > That's why I think Joni has it all, Mark. As I said earlier 'And then I > put > on some Joni music and I don't feel so crazy with it all! There's > usually some way Joni has found words where I can't find any.' > > Thanks for finding these words. When they had that announcement about > Joni seeking quotes from folk for her album cover I wrote something > like 'Joni, you found words where and when I thought there weren't > any'. Well, it was something like that. I don't know if it makes sense > but I know what I meant! > Anita I know exactly what you mean, Anita. As some of my friends might tell you, 'Mark has a Joni Mitchell lyric for any occasion.' She says it all so eloquently. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:41:51 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Anita G" I don't think apologising has come very easily to recent > Popes. Nor Generals who have bombed Innocents, come to that, > Wishing Peace, Love and Light > Anita x To bring in a little bit of Joni content: The general offer no apologies He said "The soldiers erred in judgment..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:12:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones thanks for the head's up on this one, Catherine. I love RIckie Lee, all the more so since I met her backstage at Folk Festival a few years back. No doubt Ive told the story before, but still. She was kind and generous, looked right into my eyes when we talked, warm handshake, the whole bit. She also hung out at the Children's Tent, played with the kids...tres cool that. Im always a bit of a bumbling eejit when I meet famous people, like the other year when I met Richard Thompson at same said Festival. I wish I had the gift to just talk like a normal person, for they are just that, like everyone else. But he was nice, and so tall! anyway, I'll have a listen to the d/l's youve mentioned. It's a gorgeous, almost warm spring day in Winnipeg. The wind of course brings the chill to the air, blowing down the corridor from the north. I love it all the same, especially when the miracle of spring is upon us. Mags - --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: NJC - 2 free song downloads from Rickie Lee Jones To: joni@smoe.org Received: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 7:25 AM This weekend only, Rickie Lee Jones is offering two free downloads on her website, in honour of her daughter's 22nd birthday. Happy birthday, Charlotte Rose! http://rickieleejones.com/charlotte.htm __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers 123 - still live and ticking Just in case you missed the main announcement, Joni covers Volume 123 is still available for downloading and will be until April 16th. http://tinyurl.com/y9htjee Bob NP: Warren Zevon, "Play It All Night Long" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:30:46 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Safaris to the Heart Just wanted to add to the praise that's already been lavished by other listers on Safaris to the Heart. It used to be that I didn't much like to hear anybody do Joni besides Joni. Robin Alder has changed all that. Any Joni Mitchell fan will love this disk. This is high quality stuff with top drawer performances from all the musicians in Mutts of the Planet. It also features Dave Blackburn's stellar guitar and production. Great sound. Great music. And Robin is da bomb. My full review is on the 'Reviews' page of the Robin Adler and Mutts of the Planet web-site if anyone cares to read it: http://robinadler.com/ Now go to the 'Products' page and buy the cd! It is a must-have! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:37:06 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Giving Don Henley his due, njc Henley said, in part, >If you find somebody to love in this world >You better hang on, tooth and nail. >The wolf is always at the door. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:47:21 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Hoping it's near Folly There is a "Folly" in the state of Virginia in the USA, http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Folly&state=VA&country=US&latitude=37.879398&longitude=-76.328102&geocode=CITY but I think it was a pun too. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:53:47 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Marcie http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=194 I vote for video added to the album version. Look at the words "green" and "sour". Anyway, it's nice to see it. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:09:43 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: Voices on videotape (NJC) Steve, thanks for posting the quote from Tom Wolfe's book, "The Right Stuff". It's one of my favorite books for its humor, sarcasm, and uplifting spirit. Chuck Yeager was one of the test pilots who flew the X-1 and variants to the edge of space, even before we had a space program. If the movie version is correct, he was up there far enough to see the sky lose its color (from the atmosphere). Anyway, if I recall my history correctly, he was the first pilot to bring a Shuttle back, safe and sound. Catherine wrote:>Is it just me, or is it just what happens when you hear voices >over that kind of radio? why do all these guys seem to have the same kind of >voice, and the same kind of accent? It's like they put this on when they enter >the military because they must come from different places. Actually, Tom Wolfe has written about "the voice": "...It was the drawl of the most righteous of all the possessor's of the right stuff: Chuck Yeager." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:57:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart And if that ain't enough to push you over the top, I don't know what is. I've been totally enjoying it all week long, in the mix here at home and at work - and yes, I have had the chance to crank it on my home system and it sounds like the band is right there in my living room - but, I do have one question, Dave. "Down To You" is conspicuous in its absence. Was it intended to be a part of this album? I know that Barnaby worked diligently to create the score, and it's one of my favorite Joni songs, and I KNOW you guys kill it, and it's a rarity as a cover....just wondering... But anyway what IS there is wonderful and like Mark said, a must-have. And congratulations, your cover of "Judgement" is the FIRST one ever. Bob NP: Beth Orton, "Comfort Of Strangers" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:41:51 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Bad lyrics, njc >You know when I drink alone >I prefer to be by myself >I was born (with a) >six gun in my hand. Posting instead of packing up the apartment, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:57:34 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Audio from Utube njc Can a person pull the audio from a Utube clip? And if so, how? thanks, gene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart I love the song 'down to you' as well. I think it was my very first Joni song ever. as for Safaris to the Heart, a title which I absolutely love... Im excited and patiently (most of the time) waiting for our Robin/Dave disc to arrive....now we've been trying to work out how we could manage to make a Winnipeg Fest happen..I know, I keep going on about it from time to time...I have a great venue for the music, reasonable and all that. But it's the accomodations that has me all worked up about. Cant figure it out. Mags - --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Bob Muller wrote: From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart To: "Mark" , "joni" Received: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 4:57 PM And if that ain't enough to push you over the top, I don't know what is. I've been totally enjoying it all week long, in the mix here at home and at work - and yes, I have had the chance to crank it on my home system and it sounds like the band is right there in my living room - but, I do have one question, Dave. "Down To You" is conspicuous in its absence. Was it intended to be a part of this album? I know that Barnaby worked diligently to create the score, and it's one of my favorite Joni songs, and I KNOW you guys kill it, and it's a rarity as a cover....just wondering... But anyway what IS there is wonderful and like Mark said, a must-have. And congratulations, your cover of "Judgement" is the FIRST one ever. Bob NP: Beth Orton, "Comfort Of Strangers" __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:09:38 -0500 From: mia _ Subject: Folly In the 16th century, Erasmus personified Folly in his essay "In Praise of Folly" -- his attempt to point out what was wrong with the Catholic Church. I had to read this in college. I'm not claiming that this is what Joni is referencing, but it is a great piece of writing, and I highly recommend it: http://books.google.com/books?id=0hJLAAAAMAAJ&pg=PR14&lpg=PR14&dq="in+praise+ of+folly"&source=bl&ots=dCuzgUyBEY&sig=Y3uK5DuY1tAVJCrS5aLjro2rD_Q&hl=en&ei=B gTBS7rwFIH78Aap45jlCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAQ# v=onepage&q=%22in%20praise%20of%20folly%22&f=false Mia _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:26:45 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart Thanks for the endorsements Bob and Mark, and everyone else who has been writing such nice things about our contribution to the Joni stream (or maybe it's the cloud these days). Down to You would have been nice to include, but then so would Harry's House, and Shadows & Light, and Chair in the Sky and and.... Decisions had to be made to leave many things out unfortunately. I think it was either Down to You or Judgement and we went with the latter, being a rarer cover and all, and then we ended up having to omit that too for length reasons. But we did give you Jungle Line, and surely there's 5-10 points right there! FWIW Down to You was my transcription, as was Judgement. I pass them on to Barnaby for proof reading and we go over the darned things with a geek microscope. I think we can pretty much claim the Judgement recording is note for note in the piano part and odd interlude. Fun to do and fascinating to study Joni's piano writing at the atomic level. BTW we are on our way to raising $100 for JoniMitchell.com through sales of Safaris. Keep em coming. Dave On Apr 10, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > besides Joni. Robin Alder has changed all that.> > > And if that ain't enough to push you over the top, I don't know what > is. I've been totally enjoying it all week long, in the mix here at > home and at work - and yes, I have had the chance to crank it on my > home system and it sounds like the band is right there in my living > room - but, I do have one question, Dave. "Down To You" is > conspicuous in its absence. Was it intended to be a part of this > album? I know that Barnaby worked diligently to create the score, > and it's one of my favorite Joni songs, and I KNOW you guys kill it, > and it's a rarity as a cover....just wondering... > > But anyway what IS there is wonderful and like Mark said, a must- > have. And congratulations, your cover of "Judgement" is the FIRST > one ever. > > Bob > > NP: Beth Orton, "Comfort Of Strangers" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:41:34 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: Folly: Thinkest thou that t'would be maybe something by Willy the Shake? Hi all, The idea of "heading towards folly" sounds vaguely Shakespearean to me. Might be worth a search. I'm a technofebe, but I'll give it a try google-wise, and failing any results, I'll resort to the artifacts that surround me in my bedroom/library called "books". Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:03:54 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: Two waitresses reading all Shakespeare's folly (or headed that way for sure) (still marginally jc, I guess) Hi gang, Did you know that "folly" occurs in 80+ speeches and sonnets in Shakespeare? Neither did I until I went to Open Source Shakespeare. Anyhoo, nothing that quite matched "near folly" or "heading to folly" or the like, but I was intrigued with the following: Heigh-ho! sing heigh-ho! unto the green holly. Most friendship is feigning, most loving mere folly. As You Like It -- Duke Though age from folly could not give me freedom, It does from childishness Antony and Cleopatra -- Cleopatra O, thou didst then never love so heartily! If thou rememb'rest not the slightest folly That ever love did make thee run into, Thou hast not lov'd; As You Like It -- Silvius But all's brave that youth mounts and folly guides As You Like It -- Celia [F]olly, in wisdom hatch'd, Hath wisdom's warrant and the help of school And wit's own grace to grace a learned fool. Love’s Labours Lost -- Princess of France Besides, the knave is handsome, young, and hath all those requisites in him that folly and green minds look after: a pestilent complete knave; and the woman hath found him already. Othello -- Othello This is a practise As full of labour as a wise man's art For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, quite taint their wit. Twelth Night -- Viola Lord, Lord! to see what folly reigns in us! Two Gentlemen from Verona -- Lucetta How love makes young men thrall and old men dote; How love is wise in folly, foolish-witty: Venus and Adonis 　 Cheers, Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, “Jericho”, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #104 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------