From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #102 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, April 9 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 102 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) ["Gary Z." ] Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) [Em ] SJC Aberta Ballet does Sarah [Michael O ] Re: FW: Website question [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Hello JMDL [Michael Paz ] Re: Hello JMDL [Robin Adler ] Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) [Anita G ] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [FMYFL@aol.com] New video in Library: Shiny Toys [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] New video in Library: Marcie [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc ["gene" ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Mags ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [T Peckham ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc ["Mark" ] Re: Homosexual priests, njc [Laura Stanley ] Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) [Anne Sandstrom Subject: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) *Hello, Joni Friends, Here is a video that was posted only for today, in remembrance of Laura Nyro's passing, 13 years ago today. I had never seen this before. I hope those of you on the list who like Laura enjoy it as much as I did! Best regards, Gary Z. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=104072183&release=105041052 * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 04:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) that was wonderful, Gary. Thanks for posting that link. I enjoyed that very much. What a treat to get to "see" Laura this a.m. and hear her voice. What a beauty she was, as an artist and as a woman. Em - --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Gary Z. wrote: From: Gary Z. Subject: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) To: "joni" , "Marianne Rizzo" , "Patti Parlette" Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 6:27 AM *Hello, Joni Friends, Here is a video that was posted only for today, in remembrance of Laura Nyro's passing, 13 years ago today. I had never seen this before. I hope those of you on the list who like Laura enjoy it as much as I did! Best regards, Gary Z. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=10407218 3&release=105041052 * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:53:12 +0000 From: Michael O Subject: SJC Aberta Ballet does Sarah This just in, Grand-Maitre is on a pop-music roll : after Joni and Elton comes Sarah McLachlan. Read it here. http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Alberta+Ballet+will+dance+Sarah+ McLachlan/2776439/story.html Michael in Quebec PS, Laurent, I am with you on Melody Gardot. I saw her show in Montreal last summer. She is indeed very special and very talented. I hope she rises to all the buzz and the reputation that seems to be building around her. _________________________________________________________________ Live connected. Get Hotmail & Messenger on your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724462 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:04:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: FW: Website question I don't claim to definitively know the answer, but I'm willing to bet a paycheck that Joni is NOT referring to the obscure SC location. She's stated that most of the visuals for the song (Barangrill) came from actual things she witnessed while on the WEST coast (the 3 waitresses, the guy singing like Nat King Cole, etc), and there's nothing contextually to indicate that one of these west coast characters would be heading a couple thousand miles to the other side of the country. My guess is that she is using the word to mean "absurdity"...after all, the next bit says "you just have to laugh 'cause it's all so crazy". Add to all of that the fact that Joni is NOT a fan of the Palmetto State - apparantly she had a bad experience in the state early on in her career. Now, had she mentioned "Folly" in "Blue Motel Room" (which finds her nearby in Savannah), I might argue the other way. Bob, a fellow South Carolinian NP: Bonnie Raitt, "(Goin') Wild For You Baby" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:53:22 +0200 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hello JMDL Hi Robin Great to see you posting. I miss cooking with you and hearing you sing. I hope next time we get together we can sing together. I have not bought the new CD yet but will as soon as I get back to the states. Cassy offered me a preview when I was in Seattle and I have to say that on first listen I was very impressed. Best of luck with it. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robin Adler wrote: I'm a virgin.........................this is my first posting on any list or blog ever. Being more of a butterflies and lilac sprays kind of a girl I'm a bit shy with computer communication, but with Dave's gentle nudging here I am. He says there is a tradition for newbies to tell the story of their first connection to Joni. In 1972 I traded in my 1959 Volkswagen van for a brand new Datsun 510 station wagon. It was bright red with a white vinyl roof and the "piece de resistance" was the (optional) AM- FM radio. Ah..... Hi Fidelity!! Two years out of high school and I was stylin'. Go go going on the weekends I traded my passion for horses for traveling adventures. Of course I'd been listening to Joni Mitchell on the radio (I didn't own a home stereo) in high school and it wasn't so much a matter of loving her music as that she was such an intrinsic part of life at that time. Late sixties, Joni Mitchell and teenage longing. In 1975 I hit the road in my Datsun station wagon heading to Boulder, Colorado, my bed roll thrown in the back and hand sewn Indian bedspread curtains flapping in the wind. A newly acquired boom box (cassette player)and a bag full of batteries sat beside me along with my first 2 cassette purchases; Court and Spark and Hissing of Summer Lawns. The truth was I had never owned any recordings of Joni Mitchell let alone listened to one of her albums in its entirety. Now I had over 1000 miles and 24 hours from Southern California to the Boulder School of Massage Therapy to get to know her. With drained batteries and stretched cassette tape I was hooked by the time I arrived to Boulder. Joni was my hero. I had never heard anything quite like "Hissing of Summer Lawns" and would never have dreamed that 35 years later I would not only be a singer but record a song (The Jungle Line) from that album..........okay, moving forward to 1985. I am now living in Los Angeles (The San Fernando Valley) with my new boyfriend Rusty. He was a musician, a sax player. We had met, both of us working on a Caribbean cruise ship. He played in the house band and I was doing massage. Being involved with a jazz musician was soon to change my life for good. I would go out to every jazz club in the San Fernando Valley; Dante's, Carmello's, the Baked Potato etc. aand I'm lovin' and soaking it all up. I fell in love with improvisation and the unpredictable nature of the sound. Singing still had not occurred to me but that was soon to change. One of my massage clients had a brother who was the manager of the Yellowjackets. I guess someone had given him a copy of "Dog Eat Dog" and he passed it on to his sister (my client). She didn't like it and asked if I wanted it. Now don't crucify me, but I hadn't owned a Joni record since Court and Spark and Hissing of Summer Lawns". So, I enthusiastically accepted the album. Oh my gosh I loved this album. I know it's not one of her most popular albums but I dug it. I loved that it was topical and political and it was edgy. I sang along to the Three Great Stimulants with gusto, and I loved the novelty of Smokin and I'm a Lucky Girl. I memorized all of the songs on DED. Joni was just too cool in my book. Then one day my best girlfriend heard me singing along to DED and liked how I sounded. She encouraged me to keep singing and bought me every one of Joni's albums on vinyl for my birthday. My friend, Teresa was a huge Joni fan and knew all of her albums. So that is when I became a fan. And through the encouragement of my best friend and singing along to Joni's music I began a path at the ripe age of 31 to become a singer. Probably because of my exposure to jazz in L.A. and my love of old standards is why I started out singing jazz professionally. But in 2006 along with my husband of 15 yrs, Dave Blackburn, and our mutual love of JM's music we embarked on our Joni Tribute Band (soon to be named Mutts of Planet) and ultimately our new CD Safaris to the Heart. As Dave quoted in a recent interview, "It was just a good fit". Whew, I hope this is not too long. I want to thank the JMDLers for your generous and kind words about our Safaris CD. This by far has been the most thrilling and gratifying musical project we've ever done and I continue to shake my head in amazement at Joni's genius. How many times can you listen to her and still get tears in your eyes? I would like to leave you with one last question. Are there any other singers that find Help Me to be a challenging song to sing? Much love to all of you, Robin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:11:30 -0700 From: Robin Adler Subject: Re: Hello JMDL What dear people you JMDLers are. I feel like I've found a home. Michael I would love to sing with you sometime. I was so locked into cooking and the 2009 Joni Fest I fear I missed some magical moments although cooking with Paz was a highlight. Thank you all for being so welcoming. Love, Robin On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > Hi Robin > Great to see you posting. I miss cooking with you and hearing you > sing. I hope next time we get together we can sing together. I have > not bought the new CD yet but will as soon as I get back to the > states. Cassy offered me a preview when I was in Seattle and I have > to say that on first listen I was very impressed. Best of luck with > it. > > Love > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Robin Adler wrote: > > I'm a virgin.........................this is my first posting on > any list or blog ever. Being more of a butterflies and lilac sprays > kind of a girl I'm a bit shy with computer communication, but with > Dave's gentle nudging here I am. He says there is a tradition for > newbies to tell the story of their first connection to Joni. > > In 1972 I traded in my 1959 Volkswagen van for a brand new Datsun > 510 station wagon. It was bright red with a white vinyl roof and the > "piece de resistance" was the (optional) AM- FM radio. Ah..... Hi > Fidelity!! Two years out of high school and I was stylin'. Go go > going on the weekends I traded my passion for horses for traveling > adventures. Of course I'd been listening to Joni Mitchell on the > radio (I didn't own a home stereo) in high school and it wasn't so > much a matter of loving her music as that she was such an intrinsic > part of life at that time. Late sixties, Joni Mitchell and teenage > longing. In 1975 I hit the road in my Datsun station wagon heading > to Boulder, Colorado, my bed roll thrown in the back and hand sewn > Indian bedspread curtains flapping in the wind. A newly acquired > boom box (cassette player)and a bag full of batteries sat beside me > along with my first 2 cassette purchases; Court and Spark and > Hissing of Summer Lawns. The truth was I had never owned any > recordings of Joni Mitchell let alone listened to one of her albums > in its entirety. Now I had over 1000 miles and 24 hours from > Southern California to the Boulder School of Massage Therapy to get > to know her. With drained batteries and stretched cassette tape I > was hooked by the time I arrived to Boulder. Joni was my hero. I > had never heard anything quite like "Hissing of Summer Lawns" and > would never have dreamed that 35 years later I would not only be a > singer but record a song (The Jungle Line) from that > album..........okay, moving forward to 1985. > > I am now living in Los Angeles (The San Fernando Valley) with my > new boyfriend Rusty. He was a musician, a sax player. We had met, > both of us working on a Caribbean cruise ship. He played in the > house band and I was doing massage. Being involved with a jazz > musician was soon to change my life for good. I would go out to > every jazz club in the San Fernando Valley; Dante's, Carmello's, the > Baked Potato etc. aand I'm lovin' and soaking it all up. I fell in > love with improvisation and the unpredictable nature of the sound. > Singing still had not occurred to me but that was soon to change. > One of my massage clients had a brother who was the manager of the > Yellowjackets. I guess someone had given him a copy of "Dog Eat Dog" > and he passed it on to his sister (my client). She didn't like it > and asked if I wanted it. Now don't crucify me, but I hadn't owned > a Joni record since Court and Spark and Hissing of Summer Lawns". > So, I enthusiastically accepted the album. Oh my gosh I loved this > album. I know it's not one of her most popular albums but I dug > it. I loved that it was topical and political and it was edgy. I > sang along to the Three Great Stimulants with gusto, and I loved the > novelty of Smokin and I'm a Lucky Girl. I memorized all of the > songs on DED. Joni was just too cool in my book. Then one day my > best girlfriend heard me singing along to DED and liked how I > sounded. She encouraged me to keep singing and bought me every one > of Joni's albums on vinyl for my birthday. My friend, Teresa was a > huge Joni fan and knew all of her albums. So that is when I became > a fan. And through the encouragement of my best friend and singing > along to Joni's music I began a path at the ripe age of 31 to become > a singer. > Probably because of my exposure to jazz in L.A. and my love of old > standards is why I started out singing jazz professionally. But in > 2006 along with my husband of 15 yrs, Dave Blackburn, and our mutual > love of JM's music we embarked on our Joni Tribute Band (soon to be > named Mutts of Planet) and ultimately our new CD Safaris to the > Heart. As Dave quoted in a recent interview, "It was just a good > fit". Whew, I hope this is not too long. > > I want to thank the JMDLers for your generous and kind words about > our Safaris CD. This by far has been the most thrilling and > gratifying musical project we've ever done and I continue to shake > my head in amazement at Joni's genius. How many times can you > listen to her and still get tears in your eyes? I would like to > leave you with one last question. Are there any other singers that > find Help Me to be a challenging song to sing? > > Much love to all of you, > Robin. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:20:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) This was very welcome, particularly because I looked at it right after the wikileaks one that Les had posted previously. (I didn't want to watch that, but forced myself to.) On the one hand, you have a bunch of morons who view "individuals" the way you might look at space invaders on a video game and who request permission to "engage," because they really want to shoot someone (to them, "something" or "some thing.") And the proceed to shoot people, assuming that a camera is a weapon of some kind. (If they can't see it's a camera, why are they certain it's a gun?) And alernately speaking about what they're doing in a very disconnected sort of way, but still laughing at their accomplishments. And the capper: "It's their fault for bringing children into battle." (Is it just me, or is it just what happens when you hear voices over that kind of radio? why do all these guys seem to have the same kind of voice, and the same kind of accent? It's like they put this on when they enter the military because they must come from different places.) And then there's Laura, life-affirming, creating song and beauty. "I'm 47 years old, and it has been a beautiful life." (Probably not a direct quote, since it has been about three hours since I saw this.) "There will be a bridge right here... soon." Thanks, Gary, and thanks Laura - we need more of your kind. To: joni ; Marianne Rizzo ; Patti Parlette Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 6:27:47 AM Subject: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) *Hello, Joni Friends, Here is a video that was posted only for today, in remembrance of Laura Nyro's passing, 13 years ago today. I had never seen this before. I hope those of you on the list who like Laura enjoy it as much as I did! Best regards, Gary Z. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=10407218 3&release=105041052 * __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:25:05 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) OK, due to a couple of circumstances I had fallen behind on the AI performances. Sunday night we got together (me, my neighbors, my son) and watched the past couple weeks and then last night we watched the Tuesday Beatle performances and results night, so now I'm officially caught up. Anne Sandstrom, you were right in saying that there were lots of train wrecks...seemed like the strong got more solid, the weak didn't get any better and the second-tier folks were inconsistent. I had no problems with Paige and Didi being sent away. I did however think that just about all of the Beatles performances were pretty solid; Crystal and Casey were at the top of the heap as usual. Casey picking "Jealous Guy" was just a stroke of genius, he really did a great job with it. Siobhan's performance for the first time was boring to me; oh she looked eclectic in her mismatched clothes but her take on "Across The Universe" didn't go anywhere. Meanwhile "Teflon Tim" Urban seems to be relishing the fact that he's got a lock on the teenybopper vote so he's just having a good time and grinning from ear to ear no matter what the judges say. I'm way over Aaron and Andrew, between those two and Tim they should be among the next to go. Then again, it's hard to remember sometimes that the VOTING is not necessarily tied to the performance. I was beyond belief when Big Mike was at the bottom of the heap last night...he has yet to turn in a performance that isn't original, heartfelt and emotional. He certainly has the charisma. Good for the judges to burn their save to keep Big Mike alive. I do think that Katie and Lee have upped their game over the last couple of weeks. Was surprised to see that Lee already has a couple of CD's out, you can check them out on CDBaby. Still, from a talent perspective, I'm saying there's Crystal and Casey, and then everyone else. And I'll chime in on the "bonus" performances from last night, ALL of which were GOD-AWFUL. I understand that they have to stretch results night into an hour, pack it with suspense and fluff and all that, but man these people were just terrible. The first guy was one of Kara's proteges I guess, his song was instantly forgettable and he was trying to be the next Michael Jackson, or so it seemed, and failed miserably. David Archuleta, from a previous AI season, did "Imagine" and was more concerned with vocal trickery than with conveying the powerful message of this powerful song. The way Lennon sang it was so straightforward you couldn't miss the message and it was possible that the song could be life-changing, literally. As for Rihanna, wow that was some big steaming bowl of crap...she just walked around in a skin-tight catwoman suit saying "I'm a rock star" while backup dancers were waving power tools in the air or something, I totally didn't get it, didn't want it, and again was thinking how it must feel to some of the REALLY talented Idol contestants to witness a "Star" who sucks so badly. So I guess we lose TWO next week...I could say bye to Katie, Aaron, Andrew, or Tim and wouldn't feel like I'd missed anything. Speaking of which - what was Lacey Brown doing back in the audience? Girl, you were voted OFF THE ISLAND - go home already and get over yourself. Bob NP: Edwin McCain, "Go Be Young" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:56:58 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Remembering Laura Nyro (NJC) Thanks for the link,Gary. It's very touching Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:12:41 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) In a message dated 4/8/2010 11:29:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: > As for Rihanna, wow that was some big steaming bowl of crap...she just > walked around in a skin-tight catwoman suit saying "I'm a rock star" while > > backup dancers were waving power tools in the air or something, I totally > didn't get it, didn't want it, and again was thinking how it must feel to > some of the REALLY talented Idol contestants to witness a "Star" who sucks > > so badly. > If I used an auto toner, I could even sing at the next Jonifest! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:11:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New video in Library: Shiny Toys A new video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Shiny Toys - 1986 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=193 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:30:54 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New video in Library: Marcie A new video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Marcie - Cafe Au Go Go, New York 1967 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=194 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) Your assessment is pretty close to mine. No big surprises there. I was shocked (but why? it happens all the time) that Big Mike was at the bottom and was glad they saved him. What's not to like about Big Mike? He has an amazing voice and seems like a genuinely big-hearted guy who could easily crush you to death, but wouldn't, because he's too nice. I liked Andrew in the beginning, but he hasn't brought anything new to the table and his personality (because I believe he has one) just isn't coming through. If he had been on the bottom, I wouldn't have saved him and doubt the judges would have either. Unless something clicks into place as of next week, he'll be gone, although I think Tim should have been gone ages ago and should definitely be next. I do not understand why Tim is still there, but I guess it's the little girls' fascination with a particular look - he does look kind of like the young David Cassidy and that has appeal for a certain type of young girl, as a "non-threatening boy." Aaron seems like an old soul in a young kid's body, but this week's performance was a yawn. Siobhan nearly put me to sleep and I don't get why she keeps referring to "things going on in her life." We all have "things going on" in our lives. Maybe I missed something and someone in her family is deathly ill. Whatever. You don't vote for people based purely on sympathy. I expected more from her. That had to be the SLOWEST version of "Across the universe" ever. I'm glad to hear another person chiming in on the crap performances by today's stars. I hate to sound like an old person but that's obviously what I am. There truly is NO melody in so many songs today. It's all about prancing around with a bunch of hip-hop dancers behind you. It's really not about singing. It's more like watching dancing that happens to have something vaguely like music behind you. Rihanna is very pretty, but that's about it. As well, EVERYONE in that sort-of-hip-hop/ sort-of-RnB vein uses those godawful voice-processors, so they all sound the same anyway. There isn't even any point to having a decent voice because they process them so they all sound alike - sometimes you can't even tell if it's a male or female singing. I think it's another example of "nothing succeeds like excess." The minute someone slightly original comes along, there are almost immediately an army of clones and they all sound and look alike. Lady Gaga, love her or hate her, had something original with the weird clothes she wears. But now there are Gaga clones. Even Rihanna had those weird shoulder-things on the plastic cat-suit that must have been stolen from Gaga. I'm sorry, Rihanna, but you are NOT a rockstar. I also realize that, two weeks after Idol is done, I will have totally forgotten everyone who was on it. The interesting thing for me, I think, is the process of watching people to see who improves with time, because some of them really do. It's not the destination, but the journey. ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:25:05 AM Subject: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) And I'll chime in on the "bonus" performances from last night, ALL of which were GOD-AWFUL. I understand that they have to stretch results night into an hour, pack it with suspense and fluff and all that, but man these people were just terrible. The first guy was one of Kara's proteges I guess, his song was instantly forgettable and he was trying to be the next Michael Jackson, or so it seemed, and failed miserably. David Archuleta, from a previous AI season, did "Imagine" and was more concerned with vocal trickery than with conveying the powerful message of this powerful song. The way Lennon sang it was so straightforward you couldn't miss the message and it was possible that the song could be life-changing, literally. As for Rihanna, wow that was some big steaming bowl of crap...she just walked around in a skin-tight catwoman suit saying "I'm a rock star" while backup dancers were waving power tools in the air or something, I totally didn't get it, didn't want it, and again was thinking how it must feel to some of the REALLY talented Idol contestants to witness a "Star" who sucks so badly. So I guess we lose TWO next week...I could say bye to Katie, Aaron, Andrew, or Tim and wouldn't feel like I'd missed anything. Speaking of which - what was Lacey Brown doing back in the audience? Girl, you were voted OFF THE ISLAND - go home already and get over yourself. I did however think that just about all of the Beatles performances were pretty solid; Crystal and Casey were at the top of the heap as usual. Casey picking "Jealous Guy" was just a stroke of genius, he really did a great job with it. Siobhan's performance for the first time was boring to me; oh she looked eclectic in her mismatched clothes but her take on "Across The Universe" didn't go anywhere. Meanwhile "Teflon Tim" Urban seems to be relishing the fact that he's got a lock on the teenybopper vote so he's just having a good time and grinning from ear to ear no matter what the judges say. I'm way over Aaron and Andrew, between those two and Tim they should be among the next to go. Then again, it's hard to remember sometimes that the VOTING is not necessarily tied to the performance. I was beyond belief when Big Mike was at the bottom of the heap last night...he has yet to turn in a performance that isn't original, heartfelt and emotional. He certainly has the charisma. Good for the judges to burn their save to keep Big Mike alive. I do think that Katie and Lee have upped their game over the last couple of weeks. [...] __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) Jimmy, I'd rather hear your out-of-tune old fart voice just as it is, because you're so much cuter than Tim Urban! ________________________________ If I used an auto toner, I could even sing at the next Jonifest! Jimmy __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: "The Beauty of a Soul" has arrived (sjc) My new cd, The Beauty of a Soul, will be delivered on Monday, April 12th, Tuesday at the latest! It contains 12 songs, featuring "The Most Beautiful Boy in the World" as seen here on you-tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OXROJCCYrI) and the title track, both inspired by the birth of my son, Coltrane. It also includes a bonus track, California, which I wrote about Joni Mitchell and California, hence the Joni content. Some people might have this song as a single from several years ago. I'll post the lyrics below. The cover art is beautiful and was designed by graphic artist, Paul Melroy. It can be viewed on my profile page if you are on facebook. The photo on the back, of Coltrane and I, was taken this past December when we went to Indian Rocks Beach in St. Petersburg (hi Jerry!) The first hundred copies will be numbered and autographed. To order a copy, send $12 dollars (+ $3 s&h/$5 international) to Victor Johnson P.O. Box 43 Decatur, GA 30031. You can also send payment via paypal at waytoblue@comcast.net. ***special deal- 2 copies for $20 (+$3s&h)*** Thank you for listening peace through music, Victor California by Victor Johnson (c) 2010 Way to Blue Music California, valley of sunshine Carry me to your golden shore Wind around the moonlit highway Up above the mountain cliffs Sweet lady of the canyon Won't you take me for a ride Fill me with your perfect vision Lead me to this holy land. California, coming closer Starry skies and sleepless nights Early morning passion thunder And the love keeps pouring out Walk me through your redwood pastures Beneath the trees so high and wide Lay me down in fertile valleys Morning glory on the vine California, take me home Brighten my southern sky Sing me an unbroken lullaby I'll spread my wings, teach me to fly California, lonely sky bird Fly over ocean of white clouds Gaze down on a deep blue heaven Shining in the sunlit sky Dream of wooden ships and mermaids Dolphins jumping in the sea With no particular destination California's just around the bend. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Homosexual priests, njc I heard that some in the Catholic church are blaming the homosexuality of priests on the sexual abuse of children. They are requesting that homosexual men not be ordained. This bothers me. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:53:01 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) Catherine wrote: > Jimmy, I'd rather hear your out-of-tune old fart voice just as it is, > because you're so much cuter than Tim Urban! > I don't know about that. My old fart voice is pretty bad, but I am cuter than Tim Urban, but then again Ernest Borgnine is too. :-) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:12:44 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc 95% of child molesters self identify as heterosexual. It has nothing to do with one's sexuality. Jerry On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Laura Stanley wrote: > I heard that some in the Catholic church are blaming the homosexuality of > priests on the sexual abuse of children. They are requesting that > homosexual men not be ordained. > > This bothers me. > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:16:34 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc The Church is trying to lay blame to everyone but themselves. What a sorry sack of @#@$$^!!!!! gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Notaro" To: "Laura Stanley" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc > 95% of child molesters self identify as heterosexual. It has nothing to do > with one's sexuality. > > Jerry > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Laura Stanley > wrote: > >> I heard that some in the Catholic church are blaming the homosexuality of >> priests on the sexual abuse of children. They are requesting that >> homosexual men not be ordained. >> >> This bothers me. >> >> Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc You said it, brother. It's all about deflecting and avoiding truth, avoiding self-reflection. Blame the victim and all that. We are the church and we cannot be wrong because we say so. The Catholic church is run by an old boys' club. Literally. Both old - make that extremely old - and boys - not just males, but boys who never grew up. What does a never-married, presumably always-celibate old man who is possibly heterosexual or possibly homosexual (but never mind that, because we mustn't talk about sex) and who lives a life of great privilege know about life as it is lived by the average, much less the poverty-stricken, human just struggling to make a go of it? Sadly, the belief that homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same is a wide-spread one and not the exclusive domain of the RC Boys' Club. Grrr. (Recovering Catholic here.) ________________________________ From: gene To: Gerald Notaro ; Laura Stanley Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 7:16:34 PM Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc The Church is trying to lay blame to everyone but themselves. What a sorry sack of @#@$$^!!!!! gene __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc Im so mad about this post of yours Laura, I could just spit. Jeeeeze girl, talk about inflaming the feckin fires. BARG!!!!! Mags - --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc To: "gene" , "Gerald Notaro" , "Laura Stanley" Cc: joni@smoe.org Received: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:59 PM You said it, brother. It's all about deflecting and avoiding truth, avoiding self-reflection. Blame the victim and all that. We are the church and we cannot be wrong because we say so. The Catholic church is run by an old boys' club. Literally. Both old - make that extremely old - and boys - not just males, but boys who never grew up. What does a never-married, presumably always-celibate old man who is possibly heterosexual or possibly homosexual (but never mind that, because we mustn't talk about sex) and who lives a life of great privilege know about life as it is lived by the average, much less the poverty-stricken, human just struggling to make a go of it? Sadly, the belief that homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same is a wide-spread one and not the exclusive domain of the RC Boys' Club. Grrr. (Recovering Catholic here.) ________________________________ From: gene To: Gerald Notaro ; Laura Stanley Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 7:16:34 PM Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc The Church is trying to lay blame to everyone but themselves. What a sorry sack of @#@$$^!!!!! gene __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:51:57 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc I'm mad too--and I think I'd be even madder if I could make heads or tails out of it! Let's see, are "they" saying that some priests are homosexual because *they* (the priests) were sexually abused as children? Or are "they" saying that the *only* priests who abuse children are homosexuals? Whew, I'm confused. Recovering Lutheran On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Mags wrote: > Im so mad about this post of yours Laura, I could just spit. Jeeeeze girl, > talk about inflaming the feckin fires. > > BARG!!!!! > > Mags > > > > > > > > - -- Curiosity is my religion. David Ryan Adams ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:10:50 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc I have one word to say about this. Celibacy. Mark in Seattle - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Stanley" Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:03 PM To: Subject: Homosexual priests, njc > I heard that some in the Catholic church are blaming the homosexuality of > priests on the sexual abuse of children. They are requesting that > homosexual men not be ordained. > > This bothers me. > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc I have been thinking if this is the logic of some then heterosexual males shouldn't be priests either because they will abuse girls. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Mags wrote: Im so mad about this post of yours Laura, I could just spit. Jeeeeze girl, talk about inflaming the feckin fires. BARG!!!!! Mags - --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc To: "gene" , "Gerald Notaro" , "Laura Stanley" Cc: joni@smoe.org Received: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 7:59 PM You said it, brother. It's all about deflecting and avoiding truth, avoiding self-reflection. Blame the victim and all that. We are the church and we cannot be wrong because we say so. The Catholic church is run by an old boys' club. Literally. Both old - make that extremely old - and boys - not just males, but boys who never grew up. What does a never-married, presumably always-celibate old man who is possibly heterosexual or possibly homosexual (but never mind that, because we mustn't talk about sex) and who lives a life of great privilege know about life as it is lived by the average, much less the poverty-stricken, human just struggling to make a go of it? Sadly, the belief that homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same is a wide-spread one and not the exclusive domain of the RC Boys' Club. Grrr. (Recovering Catholic here.) ________________________________ From: gene To: Gerald Notaro ; Laura Stanley Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 7:16:34 PM Subject: Re: Homosexual priests, njc The Church is trying to lay blame to everyone but themselves. What a sorry sack of @#@$$^!!!!! gene __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:44:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) As always, Bob, you're just right on with your comments. I've always suspected that AI itself manipulates the voting totals (actually quite easy to do without being caught by the supposed third party company that does the tallying.) I wouldn't be surprised if they added votes to just the right people to make Mike come out at the bottom just so they could use the save. Apparently, AI came in second in ratings to Dancing with the Stars - for the first time ever. Nothing like a little drama to up the viewership. As for Tim, I think we're stuck with him for the duration. The site votefortheworst.com is backing him and getting legions to vote for him. So, I think it's not just teenyboppers, but punky kids who are keeping him on AI. I also noticed that the 2 lowest vote getters last night were the only remaining non-white contestants. Hmmmm.... The show is becoming more and more corny. I guess I'll watch til the finale. But I'll never watch again... lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 20:27:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) Sigh. I said last time I'd never watch it again, and then, when this season started and they were all so terrible at first and took a LONG time to improve, said I wasn't going to watch any more and yet, I haven't missed one. I think corny is too kind. I think it has always been really tacky, but the tack-o-meter has gone way past 11 at this point. What drives me crazy more than anything is the way they draw things out in order to make it a longer show. ________________________________ From: Anne Sandstrom To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 8:44:04 PM Subject: Re: NJC American Idol catch-up (SPOILER ALERT) ... The show is becoming more and more corny. I guess I'll watch til the finale. But I'll never watch again... ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #102 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------