From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #79 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, March 18 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 079 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Em ] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Em ] Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Mags ] Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Catherine McKay ] (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week [Lori Fye ] Re: (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week [Lori Fye ] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week now Elvis Costello [Mags ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I watched the show last night. The great songwriting is what made it pretty good, I guess - to me most of the performances were extremely vanilla - not just referring to the preponderance of white kids, either. I kept waiting for someone, SOMEONE to kindly break a sweat ! Not asking anyone to strut around like Mick Jagger or Otis Redding, but at least give it some GAS. C'mon, lets have some internal combustion here! This music compared to the real versions was like comparing a '68 Charger to a new Prius. But that's reality. We are in Prius days. Went to bed just before the girl (didn't see her) did "HonkyTonk Woman". Heard that in the background and it sounded pretty good - at least the chorus kind of rocked. Didn't hear what followed, so maybe there was something else outstanding still to come. Dunno....I guess rock and roll just isn't the music of choice these days, so its a particular challenge (apparently) for these kids. While technically decent, it seems they weren't really able to work up a head of steam and make the music seem very passionate, or driven. Even that "Paint it Black" that the judges were so wild about....the house band arrangement is what made it kick, and the kid's vocal range too, admittedly. I do kinda like that girl tho. Siobhan? She is cute - with the glasses thing. I have to admit this is the 1st time this season I watched/listened, so my impression didn't have the benefit of having heard what they did in previous shows or having a favorite. My partner said the one girl she really liked was apparently no longer on the show, so that was disappointing - I'd looked forward to seeing what Linda was raving about. That songwriting though, of the Stones. That sure was some good stuff. Hard to go wrong with some of those songs. So, we'll probably watch again. Be interesting to see what they do with material not so (apparently) remote from what these people really like to sing. Unlike the judges, I thought the reggae version of "Under my Thumb" *could* have worked, but for it to work, an edge of some sort would have to be created. Like a really DANGEROUS looking and sounding island man with bloodshot eyes and a scar and a creaky voice singing. Looking like someone who steals children and sells them into slavery. LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Rock and roll used to seem dangerous. What happened to that? Think about at the end of the movie "Devil's Advocate" - they play "Paint it Black" over the amazing credits sequence....for me at least it was thrilling. Its not as if that music, itself, is lame.... I just guess that making these kids try it seems curious and pointless and contrived. But this is old hat, isn't it? an old fart (me) lamenting that rock and roll as top 40 is gone. Em Ps: a former Am Idol guy that would have been good on last night's show would be Daughtry. Would have kicked it a little, probably. pps: vote for best hair: the guy that did "Under My Thumb" - I LOVE his hair!!! I want his hair! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:45:57 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week It's still out there, Em - check out anything with Jack White in it. Bob NP: Randy Newman, "Last Night I Had A Dream" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week oh yeah its still there, its just not in your face like in the Ed Sullivan days. Maybe that's a good thing. That the people making rock and roll are doing it for true love of it, rather than because it's the most wildly popular music. Em ps: will check out Jack White... - --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week To: "Em" Cc: "JMDL" Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:45 AM It's still out there, Em - check out anything with Jack White in it. Bob NP: Randy Newman, "Last Night I Had A Dream" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:30:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I'm not a Stones fan, so it was tought to sit through 2 hours worth. Most of it was a snore and/or predictable. (When you hear the songs back to back, they sound so boring to me... no offense.) But there was one standout performance. Siobhan's Paint It Black. She went from 0 to 60, changed keys (intentionally) twice, changed mood twice, and commanded the stage simply with her stance. Crystal is true to herself, but is starting to come off as a one trick pony. Mike was less than stellar - not bad, just a bit boring frankly. Didi and Lacey grated, as always. Tim should be practicing the farewell wave. However, I do give Paige a lot of credit. She was all but dead at the end of last week and has resurrected herself for another week, I think. So I think it's between Tim and Lacey tonight. lots of love, Anne oh and Happy St. Patrick's Day! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:07:27 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week In a message dated 3/17/2010 8:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > So I think it's between Tim and Lacey tonight. > I agree with you Anne. I missed last week's performances, but I did watch last night. Although I do really like Siobhan quite a bit, I think this year's performer's are not up to par compared to previous years. I've been watching A.I for the past five seasons, and this year's batch aren't up to speed. I hope I'm wrong, and they step it up a notch. Even though I'm sure she'll get booted off at some point, I am cheering for the local girl (Paige). It's still strange to me that after all these years, the JMDL is posting about A.I., but I love it. Jimmy, catching up at work ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:47:48 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I love the American Idol posts here because you all write so intelligently about music. Really brightens my day. I am a long time fan and agree, Jimmy. I watch American Idol Rewind, and this group is sad compared to past groups. Jerry On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 3/17/2010 8:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, > anne@sandstrom.com writes: > > > So I think it's between Tim and Lacey tonight. > > > > I agree with you Anne. I missed last week's performances, but I did watch > last night. Although I do really like Siobhan quite a bit, I think this > year's performer's are not up to par compared to previous years. I've been > watching A.I for the past five seasons, and this year's batch aren't up to > speed. > I hope I'm wrong, and they step it up a notch. > > Even though I'm sure she'll get booted off at some point, I am cheering for > the local girl (Paige). > > It's still strange to me that after all these years, the JMDL is posting > about A.I., but I love it. > > Jimmy, catching up at work ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week If Tim is the guy who did "Under my thumb," I think he should go, but Lacey shouldn't be far behind. I think that song could be done reggae-style, but not by that kid. IMO, it's a pretty icky song to begin with - misogynistic and dysfunctional. The kid is too white-bread, Osmond-wholesome to even get near something like that. I only caught the end bit of that because I was channel-surfing during the at-least-five-minutes-worth of commercials between songs (AI lasts two hours, but that's because there's got to be an hour of commercials - yeesh!), so when I flipped back to it, I just thought, WTF is that supposed to be? Yuk! Blech! Patooey! I'm not a big Stones fan either. They always kind of creeped me out. I do like some of their stuff, but a lot of it sounds like macho posturing, which is blech!!! to begin with. Sung by ugly old farts just makes it creepier. All IMO of course. Others may differ. I think Siobhain's probably the one, but I agree that they're pretty mediocre this time. The little 16-year-old guy is interesting - seems to know himself and his style well for one so young. I think Paige has the prettiest eyes - very interesting colour. And speaking of eyes, Lacey has got to get rid of all the mascara and eyeliner. You can't see any eye colour or pupils through all that, so she looks eyeless, which is also creepy. I don't get Didi at all. ________________________________ From: "FMYFL@aol.com" To: anne@sandstrom.com; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: emzdogz@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:07:27 AM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week In a message dated 3/17/2010 8:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > So I think it's between Tim and Lacey tonight. > I agree with you Anne. I missed last week's performances, but I did watch last night. Although I do really like Siobhan quite a bit, I think this year's performer's are not up to par compared to previous years. I've been watching A.I for the past five seasons, and this year's batch aren't up to speed. I hope I'm wrong, and they step it up a notch. Even though I'm sure she'll get booted off at some point, I am cheering for the local girl (Paige). It's still strange to me that after all these years, the JMDL is posting about A.I., but I love it. Jimmy, catching up at work __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:17:31 -0600 From: Walt Breen Subject: The Fest (njc) Mike Paz said: <> Mike, that sounds perfect if you can swing it. Wish I could help. If you can think of some ways people can help "remotely", count me in. Ciao, cher, Walt "Little" Breen Let the walls come tumbling down Let them fall right on the ground Let all the dogs go running free The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me (Joni Mitchell, Jericho, 1974) Visit my websites: www.learninginsights.info and www.booksbywalt.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:28:20 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I don't mind saying that I'm a MAJOR Stones fan - anytime I make a party mix I always kick it off with "Start Me Up", "B*tch", "Brown Sugar", or a host of others. Sure, they have their creepiness about them (Bill Wyman marrying his great-granddaughter or whatever) but they've lived (and died) like quintessential rock stars, almost forging the definition of the phrase. Several of their albums are classics in the rock pantheon, imitated but never equalled. Keef's guitar prowess may not hold a candle to some (and the poor lad can't sing for squat), but his attitude and his unique sound makes up for it. I remember hearing his licks on Tom Waits' "Rain Dogs" and KNEW right off that it was Richards playing guitar. Something to be said for that, as well as keeping a band together for almost 50 years. And Charlie Watts has long been considered one of the most consistent and dependable rock and roll drummers. On top of that, it's no secret that I dig covers, especially creative ones, and I have to admit that I haven't been familiar with some of the songs I've heard the past couple of weeks (I wouldn't know a Michael Buble/Ray LaMontagne/______________(insert country singer here) song if it bit me in the ankle), so it'll be nice knowing ALL of the songs that are being performed. Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight with my very cool neighbors and even cooler son, and will have a report in the AM. Bob NP: Joni, "Sex Kills" (Travelogue) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week Catherine and Anne, meh... Im not a fan of the Stones either...creeepy, icky, misogynistic all of the above. I was not impressed at all with the show last night. The half hour where Siobhan performed was nixed for a family thing..but anyway...again, I agree that there are too many damned commercials. Ho hum. Truth be told, Im only paying attention because y'all are writing about it on here. okay, IF they did choose a Joni Mitchell week, what songs do you think "they" would sing. Not necessarily *this* group but anyone. We know very well that Joni's songs are very difficult to schwing. And if not Joni, who else would you like to see make the week's focus? Anyhoozles, a bit brain bleary here, busy assignment going on for a bit, so that's all I have, for now . Mags If Tim is the guy who did "Under my thumb," I think he should go, but Lacey shouldn't be far behind. I think that song could be done reggae-style, but not by that kid. IMO, it's a pretty icky song to begin with - misogynistic and dysfunctional. I'm not a big Stones fan either. They always kind of creeped me out. I do like some of their stuff, but a lot of it sounds like macho posturing, which is blech!!! to begin with. Sung by ugly old farts just makes it creepier. All IMO of course. Others may differ. I think Siobhain's probably the one, but I agree that they're pretty mediocre this time. The little 16-year-old guy is interesting - seems to know himself and his style well for one so young. I think Paige has the prettiest eyes - very interesting colour. And speaking of eyes, Lacey has got to get rid of all the mascara and eyeliner. You can't see any eye colour or pupils through all that, so she looks eyeless, which is also creepy. I don't get Didi at all. ________________________________ From: "FMYFL@aol.com" To: anne@sandstrom.com; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: emzdogz@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:07:27 AM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week In a message dated 3/17/2010 8:11:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, anne@sandstrom.com writes: > So I think it's between Tim and Lacey tonight. > I agree with you Anne. I missed last week's performances, but I did watch last night. Although I do really like Siobhan quite a bit, I think this year's performer's are not up to par compared to previous years. I've been watching A.I for the past five seasons, and this year's batch aren't up to speed. I hope I'm wrong, and they step it up a notch. Even though I'm sure she'll get booted off at some point, I am cheering for the local girl (Paige). It's still strange to me that after all these years, the JMDL is posting about A.I., but I love it. Jimmy, catching up at work __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week How cool is that? I love Edward Gorey's stuff - didn't realize Siobhan's tattoo was one of his. Also didn't realize Gorey lived on the cape, but the sensibility of his art is very New England, isn't it? Go for the stamp, Anne! I know I would! ________________________________ From: Anne Sandstrom To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: anima_rising@yahoo.ca; emzdogz@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:43:36 PM Subject: Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week Just have to interject with a bit of AM silliness here. (I'l allowed, arent' I?) So, Siobhan went to school/graduated with my cousin's daughter. No, I don't know how friendly they are/were. But, even cooler is the story of Siobhan's tattoo. You can see more here: http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=MEDIA0306 And I know Duncan (they guy being interviewed) really well!!!! Am I prejuidiced. Maybe a little. Thinking of getting the stamp when I'm there this weekend... lots of love, Anne __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:52:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week You are so right. Those songs are classics. Even if I don't call myself a Stones fan, those songs are amazing. My kid loves the Stones, which I think is odd, considering there's probably a 50-year age difference. OK, maybe not quite - 45! I think it's amazing that they're still alive (most of them, that is) and I wonder what the heck drugs Jagger is taking that he can still strut and jump around the way he does. Holy crap! He's going to be 67 this year! I knew he was old, man, but didn't think he was THAT old. Keef looks like he died ages ago and has been embalmed. I've never seen anyone with so many wrinkles. It's fascinating in a weird way. I don't recognize most of the songs the AI kids have been doing either. One of the weird things (for me) is how popular country music seems to be. Whenever there are Grammy awards, I almost never recognize any of the nominees. ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Catherine McKay Cc: anne@sandstrom.com; emzdogz@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 1:28:20 PM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I don't mind saying that I'm a MAJOR Stones fan - anytime I make a party mix I always kick it off with "Start Me Up", "B*tch", "Brown Sugar", or a host of others. Sure, they have their creepiness about them (Bill Wyman marrying his great-granddaughter or whatever) but they've lived (and died) like quintessential rock stars, almost forging the definition of the phrase. Several of their albums are classics in the rock pantheon, imitated but never equalled. Keef's guitar prowess may not hold a candle to some (and the poor lad can't sing for squat), but his attitude and his unique sound makes up for it. I remember hearing his licks on Tom Waits' "Rain Dogs" and KNEW right off that it was Richards playing guitar. Something to be said for that, as well as keeping a band together for almost 50 years. And Charlie Watts has long been considered one of the most consistent and dependable rock and roll drummers. On top of that, it's no secret that I dig covers, especially creative ones, and I have to admit that I haven't been familiar with some of the songs I've heard the past couple of weeks (I wouldn't know a Michael Buble/Ray LaMontagne/______________(insert country singer here) song if it bit me in the ankle), so it'll be nice knowing ALL of the songs that are being performed. Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight with my very cool neighbors and even cooler son, and will have a report in the AM. Bob NP: Joni, "Sex Kills" (Travelogue) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer. 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:01:20 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni - Leonard Cohen Tribute concert March 21 Musik Meister Mulller wrote: Hi Patti and others in the Stamford, CT area - next Sunday the 21st you can check out a FREE concert featuring the music of Joni & Leonard Cohen: http://tinyurl.com/y8uumcc ****** Thanks for the notification! Unfortunately I can't make it, but she sure sounds interesting: "While reading the book Girls Like Us, Suzanne discovered that Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell were briefly involved in a love affair in the early 70s. Musically, at least, Suzanne has reunited them. According to Ms. Sheridan, she is a singer, songwriter and guitarist who loves connecting with people through music. She has won honors in the John Lennon Songwriting Contest..." This concert is being held on the road to Baljenie in Wilton, near my old hometown/birthplace Stamford. Speaking of Stamford, I learned while reading Girls Like Us that Carly's family lived there, in the ritzy Shippan Point area. I hope Patrick and Garret and everJonibody is having a happy St. Paddy's Day! My CG son's name is Christopher Patrick and my grandmother was from Ireland, so I'm going out to celebrate. Moon's up, night's up, drinking up the bands' green beers... Love & Peace, Patti P. NPIMH: In France They Kiss On Main Street when it's your name/saint's day... "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:22:58 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week Agree with all your points, Em. Sometimes I thought I was stuck in some parrellel Vegas hell. I continue to like Katie's voice, and think with another year of practice she could have been the next AI. Lee is my fave of the guys. If only he could carry a tune! Alas. Siobahn is good, although, unlike the judges and Mrs. Remote, I didn't think she sang very well last night, except for the last few notes. RR From: "Em" > I kept waiting for someone, SOMEONE to kindly break a sweat ! Not asking > anyone to strut around like Mick Jagger or Otis Redding, but at least give > it some GAS. C'mon, lets have some internal combustion here! > Unlike the judges, I thought the reggae version of "Under my Thumb" > *could* have worked, but for it to work, an edge of some sort would have > to be created. Like a really DANGEROUS looking and sounding island man ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:30:46 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week Mags asked: > okay, IF they did choose a Joni Mitchell week, what songs do you think "they" > would sing. Not necessarily *this* group but anyone. We know very well that > Joni's songs are very difficult to schwing. It might be easier to pick the songs they could NEVER pull off. ; ) That said, here are my suggestions for songs they might pick: Circle Game (hey, no problem with "pitchy" vocals there -- the more out of tune voices, the better!) Big Yellow Taxi You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio Both Sides Now Blue Case Of You Help Me Free Man In Paris Woodstock Raised On Robbery Okay, that's ten Joni songs with which AI contestants *might* be familiar. Now ... how about some songs that would require some real chops and consideration? Any suggestions? Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:31:39 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week Correction. That should've been "A Case Of You". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:39:00 -0500 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week ok, I have been hesitant to chime in here as i'm even older the Jimmy and can hardly stay up to watch til the end of American Idol. don't know all the names you're taking about, but recognise a few. I think there are a few good ones! To Catharine's comment below..... i have a bit of insider info. I have a friend, a photographer, that somehow is a personal friend of Mick's- don't think i have ever asked him how this came about...... same guy also is good friends with the former personal assistant to john lennon- met that guy, too, but that's another story. a couple of years ago I met Mick backstage and @ the after party for the opening toronto concert on the last tour- the Stones have holed up in toronto for a number of their tours and have vigorously rehearsed @ some local schools in the summer prior to the concert kick-off. Mick has twice rented the home of someone I have met a few times who lives on the "bridal path" in toronto- Catharine will know it. Tres chic and one the most expensive areas in our city. Prince used to live there until a couple of years ago when he was married to a toronto gal. ( I have been in the home that Jagger rented, and trust me, it is remarkable!!!) Mick looked fantastic, and as we all know, not an ounce of flab on his body. He is clean, sober, no drugs, and runs 10 -20 km a day and eats very healthy. amazing what older age can do! Richards is still a maniac, a huge drinker and doper- what a surprise! and supposedly he and Ron Wood had quite the falling out when Ron became sober and Keith no longer had a "companion" in indulgence.... and, how was it that Keith actually fell out of that tree in Australia??? best to all Stephen in Toronto HUGO BOSS AG Dieselstra_e 12 D-72555 Metzingen Telefon 07123/94-0 Fax 07123/94-2014 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Hellmut Albrecht Vorstand: Claus-Dietrich Lahrs, Vorsitzender Christoph Auhagen, Mark Langer, Dr. Andreas Stockert Firmensitz: Metzingen Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart Nr. HRB 360610 This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week hey Lori, of those on your list the only one that seems a tad out of place is "Blue". Thinking that songs flies under the radar a bit more, but my hat's off to whoever takes it on, OTOH, not sure I could stomach hearing it. I think singing "Blue" would be really hard, and truly nailing it next to impossible. The rest of your list is about what I'd come up with, I think. Em - --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Lori Fye wrote: From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) If American Idol had a "Joni" week To: joni@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:30 PM Mags asked: > okay, IF they did choose a Joni Mitchell week, what songs do you think "they" > would sing. Not necessarily *this* group but anyone. We know very well that > Joni's songs are very difficult to schwing. It might be easier to pick the songs they could NEVER pull off. ; ) That said, here are my suggestions for songs they might pick: Circle Game (hey, no problem with "pitchy" vocals there -- the more out of tune voices, the better!) Big Yellow Taxi You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio Both Sides Now Blue Case Of You Help Me Free Man In Paris Woodstock Raised On Robbery Okay, that's ten Joni songs with which AI contestants *might* be familiar. Now ... how about some songs that would require some real chops and consideration? Any suggestions? Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week I either heard that about Mick, or figured it out on my own - there is no way he could be in such good shape, especially at his age, if he was drinking and doing drugs. I'm sure he eats very well, probably all organic on top of all that. And I'm sure he also has his own personal physiotherapist, massage therapist, etc - in other words, probably doesn't need to take anything for his aches and pains. (Oh, maybe the occasional ibuprofen!) And yeah, Keith looks like someone who drinks and smokes A LOT! What was he doing up the tree to begin with? ________________________________ From: "Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com" To: Catherine McKay Cc: anne@sandstrom.com; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; emzdogz@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; joni@smoe.org; owner-joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:39:00 PM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week ok, I have been hesitant to chime in here as i'm even older the Jimmy and can hardly stay up to watch til the end of American Idol. don't know all the names you're taking about, but recognise a few. I think there are a few good ones! To Catharine's comment below..... i have a bit of insider info. I have a friend, a photographer, that somehow is a personal friend of Mick's- don't think i have ever asked him how this came about...... same guy also is good friends with the former personal assistant to john lennon- met that guy, too, but that's another story. a couple of years ago I met Mick backstage and @ the after party for the opening toronto concert on the last tour- the Stones have holed up in toronto for a number of their tours and have vigorously rehearsed @ some local schools in the summer prior to the concert kick-off. Mick has twice rented the home of someone I have met a few times who lives on the "bridal path" in toronto- Catharine will know it. Tres chic and one the most expensive areas in our city. Prince used to live there until a couple of years ago when he was married to a toronto gal. ( I have been in the home that Jagger rented, and trust me, it is remarkable!!!) Mick looked fantastic, and as we all know, not an ounce of flab on his body. He is clean, sober, no drugs, and runs 10 -20 km a day and eats very healthy. amazing what older age can do! Richards is still a maniac, a huge drinker and doper- what a surprise! and supposedly he and Ron Wood had quite the falling out when Ron became sober and Keith no longer had a "companion" in indulgence.... and, how was it that Keith actually fell out of that tree in Australia??? best to all Stephen in Toronto __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:21:33 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week - -------------------------------------------------- From: "Catherine McKay" ! > > I'm not a big Stones fan either. > They always kind of creeped me out. I do like some of their stuff, but a > lot > of it sounds like macho posturing, which is blech!!! to begin with. Sung > by > ugly old farts just makes it creepier. All IMO of course. Others may > differ. I'm with you all the way as far the Stones are concerned, Catherine. I never did get them. Although I admit, Mick Jagger was kind of sexy when he was young, I have never liked the sound of his voice. And there was just too much aren't-I-so-hot-don't-you-all-want-to-f**k-me macho swagger about him. That was 99% of his appeal, imo. I'm such a bad boy and isn't it soooo sexy. Watch me strut around and flaunt myself. Why he (and the Rolling Stones, for that matter) has lasted so long is beyond me. He certainly hasn't aged well. All of that hedonistic excess has caught up with his face and Keith Richards looks like a withered up, half-rotten corpse. > I think Siobhain's probably the one, but I agree that they're pretty > mediocre > this time. As I've said, I pretty much only over-hear the singers on AI. I only caught the end of Siobhan's rendition of 'Paint It Black' so I can't really comment on it. I do sort of remember some stand out performances this season. But last night I seemed to be hearing a lot of mediocre voices. But then I don't care for The Rolling Stones, in case you couldn't tell. Frankly, I think they were a poor choice. Not good material to make a bunch of diverse type of singers perform. I used to be pretty much averse to AI or just about any of the contest-type reality shows. Now I have to admit I do find AI somewhat entertaining. And Survivor sometimes has a mild fascination in a guilty pleasure, stopping to gape at a car wreck or burning building kind of horrifying way. Life can be interesting living with a person who likes to have the TV on all the time....the TV in the kitchen (when he's cooking, all of which he does so I can't complain)...the TV in the computer room...the TV in the living room....ok, that's all the TVs we have. That work, anyway. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week now Elvis Costello The next round of Elvis Costello's show is starting this Saturday evening...we were watching the adverts for it the other day and Jesse Winchester et al will be on ... what I didnt realize until the third or fourth round of seeing the same advert was omfg..Elvis was on stage with the gang.He has lost a huge amount of weight...what's the story on that. First worry was that he is ill, next...well a self imposed weight loss...how on earth did he do it? Yeesh. anyway, i love that show and look forward to it. okay FINE (haha) it's cool that Mick still runs at his age..and has taken good care..that KR guy, perhaps that's the creep factor that came to mind...and you know how much I loathe creepy icky men . off to do some work. Mags - --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week To: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Cc: anne@sandstrom.com, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com, emzdogz@yahoo.com, FMYFL@aol.com, joni@smoe.org, owner-joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:22 PM I either heard that about Mick, or figured it out on my own - there is no way he could be in such good shape, especially at his age, if he was drinking and doing drugs. I'm sure he eats very well, probably all organic on top of all that. And I'm sure he also has his own personal physiotherapist, massage therapist, etc - in other words, probably doesn't need to take anything for his aches and pains. (Oh, maybe the occasional ibuprofen!) And yeah, Keith looks like someone who drinks and smokes A LOT! What was he doing up the tree to begin with? ________________________________ From: "Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com" To: Catherine McKay Cc: anne@sandstrom.com; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; emzdogz@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; joni@smoe.org; owner-joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:39:00 PM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week ok, I have been hesitant to chime in here as i'm even older the Jimmy and can hardly stay up to watch til the end of American Idol. don't know all the names you're taking about, but recognise a few. I think there are a few good ones! To Catharine's comment below..... i have a bit of insider info. I have a friend, a photographer, that somehow is a personal friend of Mick's- don't think i have ever asked him how this came about...... same guy also is good friends with the former personal assistant to john lennon- met that guy, too, but that's another story. a couple of years ago I met Mick backstage and @ the after party for the opening toronto concert on the last tour- the Stones have holed up in toronto for a number of their tours and have vigorously rehearsed @ some local schools in the summer prior to the concert kick-off. Mick has twice rented the home of someone I have met a few times who lives on the "bridal path" in toronto- Catharine will know it. Tres chic and one the most expensive areas in our city. Prince used to live there until a couple of years ago when he was married to a toronto gal. ( I have been in the home that Jagger rented, and trust me, it is remarkable!!!) Mick looked fantastic, and as we all know, not an ounce of flab on his body. He is clean, sober, no drugs, and runs 10 -20 km a day and eats very healthy. amazing what older age can do! Richards is still a maniac, a huge drinker and doper- what a surprise! and supposedly he and Ron Wood had quite the falling out when Ron became sober and Keith no longer had a "companion" in indulgence.... and, how was it that Keith actually fell out of that tree in Australia??? best to all Stephen in Toronto __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:43:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week Just have to interject with a bit of AM silliness here. (I'l allowed, arent' I?) So, Siobhan went to school/graduated with my cousin's daughter. No, I don't know how friendly they are/were. But, even cooler is the story of Siobhan's tattoo. You can see more here: http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=MEDIA0306 And I know Duncan (they guy being interviewed) really well!!!! Am I prejuidiced. Maybe a little. Thinking of getting the stamp when I'm there this weekend... lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:55:16 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New video in Library: Night Ride Home A new video has been added to the Library at JoniMitchell.com: Night Ride Home - The Ghost of Faffner Hall Newcastle, England 1989 View it here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=192 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:42:12 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week Paz reporting from Minnesota where we will be till Sunday. Holler if you near St. Cloud or Minneapolis. Here is my Stones story. When they were on the Voodoo Lounge Tour I was asked to guitar tech for Keith and Ronnie for their tour party help at what is now the NEW Howlin' Wolf (use to be the Music Hall and the Praline Connection). The Stones hired the Funky Meters, Marva Wright, and Rockin' Doopsie to play for their party and Ronnie and Keith sat in with everybody. It was my job to tune their gitars etc. I ended up spending the evening hanging out with Keith and having many cocktails (he out drank me 3-1 and at the time he was drinking Long Island Ice Teas). When the Meters were on we were squat in front the stage and Keef (oh now I am slurring) was slapping himself silly freaking out over Art Neville's son Ian who made his world debut that night playing guitar alongside Brian Stoltz and his daddy. It was great fun. Charlie was very cool and sat a table holding court. When Mick arrived and stood next to me I could not believe how short he was. Of course being 6'4" almost everybody is short, but I had always envisioned him as such a huge person it was a real mind blower. Anyway I have the tour laminate signed by everyone as proof of the party. BTW I loved Idol this week and thought that there alot of great performances. I always have love the Stones (not as much as the Beatles or Joni but love alot of their more obscure stuff. Love 12 x 5 and Beggars Banquet and Exile. Can't wait for the new tracks from Exile) I thought big MIke did a great job and I loved Lady Jane and Play With Fire. There were only a few that were dreadful. Don't tell me who got knocked off as I wanna be surprised Sunday night when I get home. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Mar 17, 2010, at 7:22 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: I either heard that about Mick, or figured it out on my own - there is no way he could be in such good shape, especially at his age, if he was drinking and doing drugs. I'm sure he eats very well, probably all organic on top of all that. And I'm sure he also has his own personal physiotherapist, massage therapist, etc - in other words, probably doesn't need to take anything for his aches and pains. (Oh, maybe the occasional ibuprofen!) And yeah, Keith looks like someone who drinks and smokes A LOT! What was he doing up the tree to begin with? ________________________________ From: "Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com" To: Catherine McKay Cc: anne@sandstrom.com; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; emzdogz@yahoo.com; FMYFL@aol.com; joni@smoe.org; owner-joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 7:39:00 PM Subject: Re: NJC--American Idol Stones Week ok, I have been hesitant to chime in here as i'm even older the Jimmy and can hardly stay up to watch til the end of American Idol. don't know all the names you're taking about, but recognise a few. I think there are a few good ones! To Catharine's comment below..... i have a bit of insider info. I have a friend, a photographer, that somehow is a personal friend of Mick's- don't think i have ever asked him how this came about...... same guy also is good friends with the former personal assistant to john lennon- met that guy, too, but that's another story. a couple of years ago I met Mick backstage and @ the after party for the opening toronto concert on the last tour- the Stones have holed up in toronto for a number of their tours and have vigorously rehearsed @ some local schools in the summer prior to the concert kick-off. Mick has twice rented the home of someone I have met a few times who lives on the "bridal path" in toronto- Catharine will know it. Tres chic and one the most expensive areas in our city. Prince used to live there until a couple of years ago when he was married to a toronto gal. ( I have been in the home that Jagger rented, and trust me, it is remarkable!!!) Mick looked fantastic, and as we all know, not an ounce of flab on his body. He is clean, sober, no drugs, and runs 10 -20 km a day and eats very healthy. amazing what older age can do! Richards is still a maniac, a huge drinker and doper- what a surprise! and supposedly he and Ron Wood had quite the falling out when Ron became sober and Keith no longer had a "companion" in indulgence.... and, how was it that Keith actually fell out of that tree in Australia??? best to all Stephen in Toronto __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #79 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------