From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2010 #56 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, February 23 2010 Volume 2010 : Number 056 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Olympics njc [Anita G ] Fwd: Joni... [Gerald Notaro ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle [Laura Stanley ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle [Scott Price ] Lyric dilemma!!! [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Rolling Stone [Gerald Notaro ] Re: MDS (now jc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Re: Olympics njc [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Rolling Stone [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle ["Cassy" ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle [Catherine McKay ] Guitar raffle - njc ["Les Irvin" ] RE: Lyric dilemma!!! [Susan Tierney McNamara ] No Joni in Seattle ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Lyric dilemma!!! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Happy Birthday and snowboarders now njc [Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Olympics njc On 21 February 2010 12:22, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > > Now, where's my medal for Most Sleep Deprived LOL > > lots of love, > Anne > Fight cha for it! Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 07:55:17 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Fwd: Joni... Phil is a New Zealander here at USF: Jerry - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Van Beynen, Philip Date: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Joni... To: "Notaro, Gerald" Hi Gerry, Thank you for your thoughtful gift of the Joni Mitchell CD mix. I was struck how beautiful her song was portrayed at the Winter Olympics with a dancer flying over the Canadian Prairies. As you know, Kaya is also a Joni fan. All the best, Phil. Philip van Beynen, Ph.D. Associate Professor Graduate Director Department of Geography, Environmental Science and Policy Program University of South Florida 4202 East Fowler Ave, NES 107 Office NES 313 Tampa, FL 33620-5200 Ph: (813) 974-3026 Fax: (813) 974-2184 email: vanbeyne@cas.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle I'm so glad that Joni is finally going to meet Cassy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:59:37 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Re: Olympics njc LOL! You win! Anita x On 22 February 2010 15:52, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > I would, but I'm just too tired :-) > > > On Feb 22, 2010, *Anita G* wrote: > > On 21 February 2010 12:22, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > > > > > > Now, where's my medal for Most Sleep Deprived LOL > > > > lots of love, > > Anne > > > > Fight cha for it! > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:24:52 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle An article in today's Seattle Times makes it sound unlikely Joni will make an appearance. Also sounds as if she was issued an invitation to the Vancouver Olympic Games but declined due to illness. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:04:57 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:38:16 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Rolling Stone From the review of Amchitka: But the night belonged to a giggly, incandescent Joni Mitchell, previewing songs from her future classic Blue. Choice moment: "Big Yellow Taxi" segueing in the Fifties hit "Bony Moronie," for no good reason save rock and roll pleasure. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:42:09 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: MDS (now jc) sounds like whiny Joan to me Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Walt Breen wrote: Hi Laura and Mike and all, I'm pretty sure that MSD is Mitchell Doldrums Syndrome, the main symptom of which is a reaction of sadness or annoyance when the sufferer hears that *maybe* Joni will put her boxed set, and maybe Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:52:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: Olympics njc I would, but I'm just too tired :-) On Feb 22, 2010, Anita G wrote: On 21 February 2010 12:22, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > > Now, where's my medal for Most Sleep Deprived LOL > > lots of love, > Anne > Fight cha for it! Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:55:41 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Rolling Stone I saw that over the weekend - was glad to see that they finally got a round to it. Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Dream Brother" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I do hope they go through with more of these! ________________________________ From: Scott Price To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 3:24:52 PM Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Seattle An article in today's Seattle Times makes it sound unlikely Joni will make an appearance. Also sounds as if she was issued an invitation to the Vancouver Olympic Games but declined due to illness. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:48:51 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Guitar raffle - njc From Paul Ingles (producer of "The Emergence of Joni Mitchell") - --------- I'm writing all my friends and acquaintances to ask them for a little help on a raffle of a cool multiple-autographed guitar (by Bonnie Raitt, Lyle Lovett, Taj Mahal and more) that I'm in charge of delivering on. VIEW, then share the video about the guitar: http://vimeo.com/channels/32109 VIEW, then share all the raffle details: http://www.goodradioshows.org/raffle.htm In short, the non-profit organization I set up in 2003 to produce the radio series PEACE TALKS RADIO is, like a lot of non-profits, struggling a bit in the post-recession climate. As a result of the economic uncertainties, one of our major grants wasn't renewed, another is in jeopardy. So we've had to get creative on fund-raising ideas and the raffle for this celebrity musician-signed guitar is our latest hope. But for it to be successful, I'm asking all my friends and colleagues to consider buying at least one ticket AND to take a few minutes and go through their own email list and forward this note around with the goal of helping us sell another few tickets. If you're on Facebook, My Space or Twitter, consider forwarding it there. Besides yourself, I'll bet you know of a few people who'd actually be pretty interested in buying a chance on this autographed guitar. Even if the guitar is not something you'd think you'd keep if you won, consider gifting it to a musician friend OR putting it on eBay where I'm guessing it could sell for $1000 or perhaps much more. Anyway, $20 isn't much to help continue a radio program and website devoted to non-partisan talk about peace and maybe win this or one of the other cool prizes. I hope you'll follow the links and get a ticket or two or three today. It's easy with the Paypal links. And then forward this email around with your endorsement. Thanks! Stay well, Paul Paul Ingles Independent Producer / Reporter www.peacetalksradio.com www.paulingles.com 505-255-1219 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:12:06 -0500 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Lyric dilemma!!! Thanks for that Catherine, There are even more mistakes in the first verse too - right words between **, wrong words in brackets: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of *evening* [midnight] Shadows *fade sulking away* [stayed sulking in the way] Sunshine for dreaming Blackest magic to believe in Spectrums *bend rainbows and rays* [and rainbows and days] ... Discussion? Les, I will forward you with corrections once the group conscience has agreed! :) ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:30:20 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: No Joni in Seattle Alberta Ballet has been informed by Ms. Mitchell's business manager that she will be unable to attend the performance of Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle and The Drum on February 23, 2010 in Seattle due to poor health. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:37:17 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I've listened to it a bunch of times and am having trouble hearing the words in the second part of the first verse. I tried to do this without paying attention to your words, so I wouldn't be influenced. ;-) Here's what I hear, with alternate possibilities. I'm completely with you on the first three lines of the first verse. I've written what I heard for the next three lines, even after listening a few times, but they don't make a lot of sense. I listened a few times more, after reading your words, and the only line I still can't really hear is the last line of the first verse, but what I hear doesn't make sense and I don't think Joni would write something like that. Here are the complete lyrics as I hear them. I'd love to hear what others think: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of evening Shadows fade sulking away Some shine for dreaming (this doesn't make sense, so I think "Sunshine for dreaming" is probably it - on a 5th listen, that is what I hear) Like with magic to believe in (once again, this doesn't make much sense, and it's sloppy writing, so it's probably wrong! After another few listens, I hear what you hear) Spectrums and rainbows ending (or and days) (why would spectrums and rainbows end if the sun is shining? and otherwise, why would you have a list of "spectrums and rainbows and days" - it's sloppy.)(Even after listening a bunch of times, I can't hear this properly, but I'd bet you're right.) I never saw sky so free Never so blue Morning with mystic pageantry Unveils a time for sharing love with you Come to the sunshine Sharing the quiet of knowing No need for telling you sometimes When all the answers are so plainly showing Teach me to tell you All the feelings I've been learning Tell me to teach you my heart New words are crazy Old love words keep returning All words seem wrong from the start So I will tell you with my eyes Say with a kiss Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Come to the sunshine Sharing the quiet of knowing No need for telling you sometimes When all the answers are so plainly showing ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Catherine McKay ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 6:12:06 PM Subject: RE: Lyric dilemma!!! Thanks for that Catherine, There are even more mistakes in the first verse too - right words between **, wrong words in brackets: Now comes the morning Wet with the kiss of *evening* [midnight] Shadows *fade sulking away* [stayed sulking in the way] Sunshine for dreaming Blackest magic to believe in Spectrums *bend rainbows and rays* [and rainbows and days] ... Discussion? Les, I will forward you with corrections once the group conscience has agreed! :) ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:41 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Lyric dilemma!!! I just listened to it (Couriers Folk Club appearance) and I hear what you hear, Sue. For anyone that doesn't have this and would like to give it a listen, here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/RmNBYlJSSU9veE0wTVE9PQ ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:57 PM Subject: Lyric dilemma!!! I'd like to challenge a lyric from an old song. On JM.com the lyrics to Come to the Sunshine read like this in the second verse, last two lines: Silence that asks and looks so wise And needs no answer on a day like this I say, that makes no sense, and what she is really singing is: Silence that asks no ifs or whys And needs no answer on a day like this Thanks to HappyTheMan for jogging my brain on this one!!! :) Take care, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue Tierney || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:08:28 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Happy Birthday and snowboarders now njc I need to read your book, Anita. This is fascinating to me. Australia is apparently the only country in the world to have attended every single Summer Olympics since their inception in 1896. An amazing fact given your story regarding our isolation. To spend 6 weeks on a ship just to attend a relatively short sports meet is dedication. They would have probably had to pay their own way too. I think it's such a shame that there is so much dependent on money. The Olympic Games should have remained amateur and there should be grants to countries less well off to allow them to send athletes. That is the original spirit of the Games. Australia was so isolated in the past. We often hear people say that we are so far away but, it doesn't make any sense to us now. I mean, if you're going to spend several hours on a plane across the Atlantic, what's a few more to cross the Pacific or Asia? Besides, it's a matter of perspective. To us, it is normal to spend 16 hours to go to California or 30 hours to go to Europe. It's not something you do every day. I am just imagining how it was for people back in the 1920s, to spend six months to get to Europe. Now that's a long time. Maybe it's not that we are isolated from Europe and North America but, they are isolated from us and Asia. We are not isolated from New Zealand or Fiji or Thailand or Papua New Guinea. Life is always a matter of perspective. Mark in bustling, cosmopolitan Sydney NP Attitude - John Butler Trio On 21/02/2010, at 3:58 AM, Anita G wrote: > On 20 February 2010 03:33, Catherine McKay > wrote: > The great hockey players in the NHL used to be mostly Canadian, > (this was ages ago) and they would play for teams in the US > (although it's not quite the same as being an Olympic athlete, > because they're supposed to be representing their country, whereas a > professional athlete - and I use that term loosely because, once > upon a time, Olympic athletes were supposed to be "amateurs" - is a > different story. > Steph and I interviewed the first woman Australian track and field > Olympian, Edith Robinson who competed in the Amsterdam Olympics of > 1928 - when sports were truly amateur. Edith was the only Aussie > woman track and field athlete to make the trip in 1928 and, of > course, the Aussie team went by boat and the journey took 6 weeks. > Edith was a sprinter who had never been out of Australia and was SO > happy to be going and SO loved the new food on the ship that she > just had to try everything! She told us that she put on close to two > stone on the trip over and said 'I got to Amsterdam and could hardly > run a step!' > > Happy Days! Can you imagine reaching the Olympic Games as sole > representative of your country carrying an extra stone or two? > Wouldn't happen today, > Anita ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2010 #56 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------