From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #354 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 1 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 354 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: NJC Wow for 2009 [Lieve Reckers ] Re: NJC Wow for 2009 ["Cassy" ] Re: NJC Wow for 2009 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: NJC Wow for 2009 [Rose M Joy ] Re: NJC Wow for 2009 [Mags ] Re: NJC Wow for 2009 [Catherine McKay ] seen and not heard [Mike Pritchard ] Willy it was really nothing [William Waddell ] Re: Precious - NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Ooops - Willy it was really nothing [Garret ] RE: I just can't choose [William Waddell ] For the Brit JMDLers [William Waddell ] Heads up John Kelly Fans in NYC (NJC) [Michael Paz Subject: re: NJC Wow for 2009 Dear Monika, you have indeed been missed. The list has been rather quiet recently, and I was thinking of some of the people who had contributed so much in the past and were now rather silent. A normal phenomenon, for sure, and to prove the point I have been quiet for years too. But anyway, at some point yesterday I was particularly thinking of you, how sorry I was not to see more postings from you. In part, it's because of your age. It's so good to see young people coming to this list and sticking around. (Hi Rian, hi Odmund, hi Rachel!) But it's also, even more, your own character, your own personality, that is such a strong contribution to this list. So thank you for letting us know why we haven't heard more from you, it means you are still very much part of this group of friends. Sorry to do this message back to front. I started with my first reaction, when I saw a long post from you. But then, much more important, is that I want to send you a message of support for all the stress and upset you are going through. I hope that you know that we care and are here (on the list or privately) to listen and talk when you need it. It seems so unfair that you have to deal with all these things at this stage of your life, when so many others at that age are just carefree, going out and enjoying life. Maybe I can say a few words of support on that, from my own experience. My own twenties, for very different reasons, were also far from happy and full of stressful responsibilities. I could only drag myself through it by saying: "I am learning from this. This is making me stronger." And it is true, even though I would never say that I am glad I had such a protracted miserable time. But the thing is, there WILL be better times ahead, even if they don't seem to come as soon as you feel you deserve them. So please, don't give up, feel proud of yourself for being able to cope, know that you will emerge a stronger person, and that you WILL be happy one day! With a big hug, Lieve in London - ------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:12:45 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz I'm sorry for the lack of posting on this list lately. 2009 has been not the greatest year and unfortunately on it goes. I received a phonecall from Police today. My Uncle passed away and was found in his apartment. An autopsy is being done. I know nothing more. Since my Mom passed earlier this year, and my Aunt passed 2 years ago, my sister, brother, and I are his only blood relatives here in America. With my sister not living in the state and my brother being immature (sorry), that leaves all the details of dealing police, the coroner, getting all his stuff in order to me. I just can't believe this has happened. That is 3 significant family member deaths within 2 years. I have to make yet another call to our family in Poland to let them know. Sad thing is we can't afford to give him a proper funeral with all the services.... This life is too much sometimes. - - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:44:37 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 In sorting his things you may discover he had some sort of life insurance, Monika. Also, if he served in the US Military there may be some veteran assistance for you. As a last resort, you can simply tell the funeral home that he died destitute and you haven't the means to bury him, they can't refuse to offer the least expensive package they have and for a pauper cremation it runs about $400-500. Of course they may try to guilt you into spending money just hold your ground and be strong. If he was employed, try phoning the HR dept at his work, they may have had some term insurance for employees that will help defray expenses. You might also call a social worker to ask for advice, they usually know all the ins and outs of taking advantage of the system to help in these situations. He is also eligible for a small stipend from Social Security to help with burial, I believe. Be sure to try to find his banking info and go to them in person to discuss what they need to release any funds to you as his closest living relative, you may find he was a secret saver and has thousands of dollars in the bank. That's all I can offer for now I hope this was a little bit helpful. My sympathies for your loss, may 2010 be a much better year for you darlin'. Warmly, Cassy Actions speak for themselves - echoing into eternity ~ me ~ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" To: "Joni people!" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: NJC Wow for 2009 > I'm sorry for the lack of posting on this list lately. 2009 has been not > the greatest year and unfortunately on it goes. I received a phonecall > from > Police today. My Uncle passed away and was found in his apartment. An > autopsy is being done. I know nothing more. > Since my Mom passed earlier this year, and my Aunt passed 2 years ago, my > sister, brother, and I are his only blood relatives here in America. With > my > sister not living in the state and my brother being immature (sorry), that > leaves all the details of dealing police, the coroner, getting all his > stuff > in order to me. I just can't believe this has happened. That is 3 > significant family member deaths within 2 years. I have to make yet > another > call to our family in Poland to let them know. Sad thing is we can't > afford > to give him a proper funeral with all the services.... This life is too > much > sometimes. > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:48:24 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 Hi Mon, I will echo Lieve's thoughts and say that you have been missed, and also that I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle as well as the rest of what has been a very tough year for you. Cassy has already given you a lot of great advice, so I'll just say that you have lots of friends and support here. You'll make it through this and be a better person for it - that won't make things any easier for now, but hang in there and stay in touch. Bob NP: Fleet Foxes, "Innocent Son" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:36:51 -0500 From: Rose M Joy Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 Monica , I am so sorry for your loss, I too have suffered the loss of two sibblings and both parents. Cassey offers good advise. When my brother Richard died, he dud not have a will. We had to probate a will. Depending on the state, there are different laws I'm sure. Do this right away. My brother knew he was dying and thank goodness he kept up with his life insurance policy with the millitary and had me named his benificiary so I was instructed to take care of his funeral arrangements. To access his bank accts, you must be executor of his will. Hope that helps, Hang in there and if you need anymore help , please don't hesitate to contact me off list . Hugs Rose ooxx Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:44 AM, "Cassy" wrote: > In sorting his things you may discover he had some sort of life > insurance, Monika. Also, if he served in the US Military there may > be some veteran assistance for you. As a last resort, you can > simply tell the funeral home that he died destitute and you haven't > the means to bury him, they can't refuse to offer the least > expensive package they have and for a pauper cremation it runs about > $400-500. Of course they may try to guilt you into spending money > just hold your ground and be strong. > > If he was employed, try phoning the HR dept at his work, they may > have had some term insurance for employees that will help defray > expenses. You might also call a social worker to ask for advice, > they usually know all the ins and outs of taking advantage of the > system to help in these situations. He is also eligible for a small > stipend from Social Security to help with burial, I believe. > > Be sure to try to find his banking info and go to them in person to > discuss what they need to release any funds to you as his closest > living relative, you may find he was a secret saver and has > thousands of dollars in the bank. > > That's all I can offer for now I hope this was a little bit > helpful. My sympathies for your loss, may 2010 be a much better > year for you darlin'. > > Warmly, > Cassy > > > Actions speak for themselves - echoing into eternity > ~ me ~ > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" > > To: "Joni people!" > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:12 PM > Subject: NJC Wow for 2009 > > >> I'm sorry for the lack of posting on this list lately. 2009 has >> been not >> the greatest year and unfortunately on it goes. I received a >> phonecall from >> Police today. My Uncle passed away and was found in his >> apartment. An >> autopsy is being done. I know nothing more. >> Since my Mom passed earlier this year, and my Aunt passed 2 years >> ago, my >> sister, brother, and I are his only blood relatives here in >> America. With my >> sister not living in the state and my brother being immature >> (sorry), that >> leaves all the details of dealing police, the coroner, getting all >> his stuff >> in order to me. I just can't believe this has happened. That is 3 >> significant family member deaths within 2 years. I have to make >> yet another >> call to our family in Poland to let them know. Sad thing is we >> can't afford >> to give him a proper funeral with all the services.... This life >> is too much >> sometimes. >> -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 dear Monika, Im so sorry to hear about your losses too. Im glad though, that you have reached out to us for support and care. There are wonderful, kind people here who are more than willing to surround you with love and care. A good place for you to talk to us, and please do keep talking. much love, Mags - --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: NJC Wow for 2009 To: "Joni people!" Received: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:12 PM I'm sorry for the lack of posting on this list lately. 2009 has been not the greatest year and unfortunately on it goes. I received a phonecall from Police today. My Uncle passed away and was found in his apartment. An autopsy is being done. I know nothing more. Since my Mom passed earlier this year, and my Aunt passed 2 years ago, my sister, brother, and I are his only blood relatives here in America. With my sister not living in the state and my brother being immature (sorry), that leaves all the details of dealing police, the coroner, getting all his stuff in order to me. I just can't believe this has happened. That is 3 significant family member deaths within 2 years. I have to make yet another call to our family in Poland to let them know. Sad thing is we can't afford to give him a proper funeral with all the services.... This life is too much sometimes. - -Monika __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:03:43 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 Dear Monika, I just want to add my support for you during this very difficult time. You have had a very tough year. I think you're getting some excellent advice from fellow jmdlers. As we've seen so many times in the past, there is always someone on this list who can give good advice about just about anything. And the rest of us are here to support you, so hang in there. ________________________________ From: Rose M Joy To: Cassy Cc: Monika Bogdanowicz ; Joni people! Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 9:36:51 AM Subject: Re: NJC Wow for 2009 Monica , I am so sorry for your loss, I too have suffered the loss of two sibblings and both parents. Cassey offers good advise. When my brother Richard died, he dud not have a will. We had to probate a will. Depending on the state, there are different laws I'm sure. Do this right away. My brother knew he was dying and thank goodness he kept up with his life insurance policy with the millitary and had me named his benificiary so I was instructed to take care of his funeral arrangements. To access his bank accts, you must be executor of his will. Hope that helps, Hang in there and if you need anymore help , please don't hesitate to contact me off list . Hugs Rose ooxx __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:45:18 +0100 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: seen and not heard No Joni mention on Morriseys Desert Island Discs, but in a weird compensatory kind of way I did spot a joni mention in Steven Pinkers The Stuff of Thought, in the bit where he is discussing the difference between content-locative constructions and container-locative constructions; you know, the astute childs ability to form the rule If a verb can appear in a prepositional dative, then it can appear in a double dative object, and vice versa. Thats one hell of an astute child, I reckon. The quote, wouldnt you know, is They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum, and charged all the people a dollar and a half just to see em. TPinker, Steven. The Stuff of Thought , Penguin, 2007, p.63 mike in bcn np Camera Obscura  Lloyd, Im ready to be heartbroken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:25:41 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: Willy it was really nothing Ever on the look-out for Joni lovers, I see Sharon Corr picks Joni's River as one of the tracks of her years on Ken Bruce this week (BBC Radio 2 Thursday). I like to hear what they say. Should do a Desert Island Disc thread - 'sbeen a while since we had a list thing. I'd be tempted to choose two Jonis each day Monday to Friday. Don't Interrupt the SorrowThat Song About the MidwayRefuge of the RoadsCold Blue Steel and Sweet FireCactus TreeHarlem in HavanaHejiraDown to YouDon Juan's Reckless DaughterPaprika Plains (that would take 'em well past the news at the top of the hour) On Sunday, I was half expecting Morrissey to choose a Joni on Desert Island Discs, him having once done an interview with her an' all. Dunno why I thought there'd be some closer muse betwixt them. Heaven knows it was really nothing, but William's miserable nowx _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:31:51 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: Ooops - Willy it was really nothing Ooops, last email got a bit mixed up. Should've read to be coherent: Ever on the look-out for Joni lovers, I see Sharon Corr picks Joni's River as one of the tracks of her years on Ken Bruce this week (BBC Radio 2 Thursday). I like to hear what they say. On Sunday, I was half expecting Morrissey to choose a Joni on Desert Island Discs, him having once done an interview with her an' all. Dunno why I thought there'd be some closer muse betwixt them. Should do a Desert Island Disc thread - 'sbeen a while since we had a list thing. I'd be tempted to choose two Jonis each day Monday to Friday. Don't Interrupt the SorrowThat Song About the MidwayRefuge of the RoadsCold Blue Steel and Sweet FireCactus TreeHarlem in HavanaHejiraDown to YouDon Juan's Reckless DaughterPaprika Plains (that would take 'em well past the news at the top of the hour) Heaven knows it was really nothing, but William's miserable nowWtSx _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:06:59 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Precious - NJC I've not seen this movie mentioned yet on the list, so let me give it my highest recommendation. Probably the best movie of the year. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:20:00 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Precious - NJC Thanks for that, Jerry - I've been debating whether to see it now or wait for the DVD - you helped me make up my mind. Hasn't been a real stellar year for cinema imo. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Georgie Lee" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:16:33 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: Ooops - Willy it was really nothing mmm, two joni songs a day for five days. i'll try: day 1: Both Sides Now & River day 2: Judgement of the Moon and Stars & Just Like This Train day 3: In France... & Hejira day 4: Dreamland & Dry Cleaner day 5: Night Ride Home & Turbulent Indigo i need a day 4.5 and I'd go with Be Cool and Dog Eat Dog. Actually, scrap the whole thing. I just can't choose:-) GARRET NP - Journey, Don't Stop Believing On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:31 PM, William Waddell wrote: > Ooops, last email got a bit mixed up. Should've read to be coherent: > Ever on the look-out for Joni lovers, I see Sharon Corr picks Joni's River as > one of the tracks of her years on Ken Bruce this week (BBC Radio 2 Thursday). > I like to hear what they say. > On Sunday, I was half expecting Morrissey to choose a Joni on Desert Island > Discs, him having once done an interview with her an' all. Dunno why I > thought there'd be some closer muse betwixt them. > Should do a Desert Island Disc thread - 'sbeen a while since we had a list > thing. I'd be tempted to choose two Jonis each day Monday to Friday. > Don't Interrupt the SorrowThat Song About the MidwayRefuge of the RoadsCold > Blue Steel and Sweet FireCactus TreeHarlem in HavanaHejiraDown to YouDon > Juan's Reckless DaughterPaprika Plains (that would take 'em well past the news > at the top of the hour) > Heaven knows it was really nothing, but William's miserable nowWtSx > _________________________________________________________________ > Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:14:16 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: RE: I just can't choose Garret, >>> I just can't chooseKnow what you mean. Imagine a Sofie's choice moment though!!! For me... Don't Interrupt... Then on Tuesday, Sofie's would be...I so-o-o-o adore Joni's 'middle' period over any, and frankly, anything would suffice. Just to hear Joni on the radio once in a while more often would be great. Maybe it's the stations I listen to. Actually, I listen mostly to Radio 4 these days. Didn't Joni say a while back that she listened only to talk radio? I get it. WtSx _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:22:55 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: For the Brit JMDLers I concur with Sting's sentiments re the X Factor, and it goes without saying Joni would have more than something untoward to say too. They've had a Take That, George Michael, and an Elton John week when the wannabes 'interpret'. I wonder what Simon Cowell et al's thoughts would be on Joe, Stacey, Olly, and Danyl doing a Joni week.I'd like to hear:Joe - Slouching Toward BethlehemStacey - The Magdalene LaundriesOlly - WillyDanyl - The Circle Game Ha ha! Bless 'em, but I'm laughing my arse off at the thought of them doing those songs. I can't stand the X Factor. Susan Boyle lives just up the road from me. Proud. Slouching should win WtSx _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:57:11 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Heads up John Kelly Fans in NYC (NJC) John invited you to "Orpheus X" on Wednesday, December 2 at 8:00pm. Event: Orpheus X What: Performance Start Time: Wednesday, December 2 at 8:00pm End Time: Sunday, December 20 at 3:00pm Where: The Duke on 42nd Street, A New 42nd Street Project Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #354 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------