From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #344 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 20 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 344 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC [Anita G ] Miles [Gerald Notaro ] Re: E-mails I hate to get - njc [Catherine McKay ] review of Amchitka CD, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Amchitka CD trivia ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] (NJC) Armed robbery on the paprika plains -- and more (shameless promotion on behalf of a friend) [Lo] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:04:16 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC "Funny you should say that, Anita. I felt the same way. I also thought it was funny that she would sing "Boney Maroney" (sp?)" I remember Joni singng it at the Royal Festival Hall as an encore that same year, the very first time I saw her! I had quite forgotten it. I guess it reminds me how important it was for Joni to dance in the 50s and reminded me of her cover of 'Why do fools fall in love.' Probably she boogied on down to Bony Maroney (sp, too?), alongside 'Why Do Foola.' I should imagine, BYT, with it's rock 'n' roll backbeat, emerged from that part of her psyche, too. As you say, Bob, what a gem. Her voice is just incredible. Love Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:38:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: re: E-mails I hate to get - njc Catherine wrote: [...] One of my pet peeves is the forwarded email that pretends to give information that, if it were true, would be available through legitimate news outlets, instead of from a select coterie of people from some kind of inner circle (heh heh). I have a cousin that I love to bits, but she's constantly forwarding that kind of stuff. Both my older sister and I have often responded saying she's fallen victim to a hoax and suggested Snopes or other debunking sites, but, after a while, I feel like a cranky old lady for doing that, so I've started to simply ignore and delete that kind of email without commenting. Let some other crank do it! (like my sister, for example.) What I particularly hate is those emails that tell you to forward to ten friends, or as many people as you can, and good luck will come to you. Yeah, right. [...] ____ and Bob wrote: [...] I've had several co-workers who forward hoax/spam/false emails and I send them the snopes links with a little note telling them that maybe they should do some simple fact-checking BEFORE they "bear false witness" [...] It's funny, because they seldom thank me for clearing up their misinformation; they usually drop me from their email list (which is OK if all they send is cr_p) or get mad at me for calling them out. [...] _____ Me now: Bob and Catherine, first of all a very big: Yes, Me Too!!! All those soppy messages from friends, saying you're "a great mum," or "a sister with attitude" or "a true friend", if only you would just pass that message on to another 6 or so great mums, sisters or true friends - I need to take a bit of a deep breath each time before I pluck up the courage to delete. Even more difficult are some other chain emails, where you are put under moral pressure to distribute the message further. A few examples: - - I was asked to distribute very upsetting, explicit pictures of concentration camp victims, and another time of victims of Tamil Tiger killings, both with the stated purpose of "making sure that nobody could deny that these things had happened". Yes, I know they have happened, but I am not going to turn myself into a distribution centre for almost obscene images of cruelty, nor do I want to conduct political campaigns in that way. (If I ever meet a holocaust denier, I am willing to point him/her to such evidence, but I am not sending this out at random.) - - I was also getting constant messages from a certain friend about children with rare and fatal diseases, or tearjerking stories about children in orphanages, who would somehow miraculously benefit from these messages being distributed. The thought of any sick child is a big heart tugger, but I could not avoid the impression that there are some very manipulative (bored/sick-in-the-mind) people out there who like nothing better than to get another email chain going. I wonder if there is any way in which those people can make money out of it - for themselves, I mean - or whether it is really just the kick of being able to "get people going". I mean this for the fake tearjerkers, more than the political campaigners, of course. But like Bob and Catherine, I never found anybody who appreciated me saying the emperor had no clothes on. I've tried many diplomatic or polite ways to tell certain friends that those messages are not all genuine, and I was simply dumped from their distribution list, but I'm quite sure the lists go on. And in this context, just one other thing. One of my brothers in Belgium (a lovely, down-to-earth chap) is convinced that it is worth collecting plastic screw tops of lemonade or other bottles, because somehow they will be turned into wheelchairs for the disabled. He gives them to a woman at work who passes them on to someone else etc, and somehow it is supposed to end up with this person who turns all that plastic into some tool (a paint tray for the building trade, I think) and in return he buys these wheelchairs for every so-many screw tops. "Well," I said to my brother, "if this were true, the government or local authority would be involved and do it for us. They would set up collection points, and the newspapers would run articles about it." But no, my brother knows a woman "who knows someone" who has benefited, and the thing goes on. I've told him that if he can ever give me proof, I will collect plastic tops for the rest of my life for him. But no luck, so far. It reminds me of the apostle Thomas. "Disbelieving Thomas", or "Doubting Thomas". At school we were taught he was an example of what we shouldn't be: too critical when it comes to matters of belief. "If I can put my hand in the wound, I will believe that He has arisen", Thomas said. So disrespectful, our teacher said. So unnecessarily down-to-earth. Hmm, what about the scientific methods we were also taught in the same school? Oh right, that was not applicable to religion, of course. Well, it may be a long way off from plastic screw tops, but I still hold to the same principle. And it is no pure coincidence that I called my first son Thomas. When catholic family members ask me if Thomas a Becket is his patron saint, I happily reply: "Oh no, his patron is Disbelieving Thomas"! Lieve in London ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:35:41 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Miles New York magazine has a long review of the new Miles Davis box set. The headline reads: Miles of Miles. Cool. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:41:48 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: E-mails I hate to get - njc I've seen those things too. Bring us your beer bottle caps, or pop bottle caps, or whatever, and we'll buy a well for Africa. I don't get it either. Well, I need proof too, so just call me Thomasina! ________________________________ From: Lieve Reckers lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk One of my brothers in Belgium (a lovely, down-to-earth chap) is convinced that it is worth collecting plastic screw tops of lemonade or other bottles, because somehow they will be turned into wheelchairs for the disabled. He gives them to a woman at work who passes them on to someone else etc, and somehow it is supposed to end up with this person who turns all that plastic into some tool (a paint tray for the building trade, I think) and in return he buys these wheelchairs for every so-many screw tops. "Well," I said to my brother, "if this were true, the government or local authority would be involved and do it for us. They would set up collection points, and the newspapers would run articles about it." But no, my brother knows a woman "who knows someone" who has benefited, and the thing goes on. I've told him that if he can ever give me proof, I will collect plastic tops for the rest of my life for him. But no luck, so far. It reminds me of the apostle Thomas. "Disbelieving Thomas", or "Doubting Thomas". At school we were taught he was an example of what we shouldn't be: too critical when it comes to matters of belief. "If I can put my hand in the wound, I will believe that He has arisen", Thomas said. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:46:34 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: review of Amchitka CD, njc Les et al, Here's a review http://www.sonicboomers.com/albumreviews/joni-mitchell-james-taylor-phil-ochs Excerpt... >...It’s Mitchell’s show. Her third album, Ladies of the Canyon, was just six months old, having established her firmly as an artist of original vision. And Blue (still to many her high water mark) was just seven months away. The latter gets an early showcase with three songs that fully elevate this to special-performance status. Mitchell starts on guitar for a few songs, switches to piano for several including a terrific reading of “For Free” and earnest yet not innocent “Woodstock,” then to Appalachian dulcimer (which she identifies as a “new instrument,” presumably meaning new to her or the audience and not to the generations of Appalachian players)...> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:59:19 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Amchitka CD trivia I read that the Amchitka CD was mastered by Peter J Moore. That's the engineer who recorded the Cowboy Junkies' "The Trinity Session" using a Calrec, single point stereo mic in Toronto, long ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_J._Moore Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:08:02 -0800 From: Lori Fye Subject: (NJC) Armed robbery on the paprika plains -- and more (shameless promotion on behalf of a friend) http://www.cecilewehrman.com/ Lori Santa Rosa, CA ~ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #344 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------