From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #343 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, November 19 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 343 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Amchitka CD [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Kay Ashley's CD now on CDBaby NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Amelia film [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Amelia film NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Amelia film, movies, and NJC [Gerald Notaro ] RE: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC [Anita G ] Re: Travel and Leisure magazine [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Travel and Leisure magazine now Twelve Thirty njc ["Mark Scott" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:59:17 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Amchitka CD Got mine yesterday, quicker than I thought I would. It's a very nice package; most if not all of the text and photos are there on the website so there's nothing NEW here but the sound is really tremendous. For those of us who are accustomed to a certain amount of hiss and static with our live old Joni recordings, this is amazing stuff, really feels like you are in the room with the performers. Looking forward to the Ohs/Taylor CD as well. Sure would be great if Maple Music could start up a whole series of these, of course that will be determined on its profitability so if you can, pick up a copy. Bob NP: Joni, "For Free" 10/16/70 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Still kicking myself for missing out on hot tub time with Kay... Bob NP: Joni, "The Gallery" 10/16/70 (the best version of this one I've ever heard) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:53:32 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Amelia film We just saw the Amelia film and I have to report that it was not that well done. Hilary Swank is her usual excellent self but the screenplay and particularly the editing were weak. The music was totally forgettable, although by the usually good Gabriel Yared. If they had used Joni's Amelia in the closing credits that would have been nice but I guess they wanted to keep everything "period". One critic wrote, "this movie doesn't just not get off the ground, it doesn't even get out of the hangar". However, I did learn quite a bit about Amelia's story from it, so that was worth it. Dave On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:10 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:54:57 +0000 (GMT) > From: Lieve Reckers > Subject: joni covers at jazz festival and new Amelia film > > I attended the Teignmouth Jazz Festival in Devon (England) this past > weekend. > I friend lives there and had invited me. The timing was a bit > ironic, as I > discovered on my way out from London, reading the paper on the > train, that the > London Jazz Festival had also started and that Melody Gardot was > playing at > the Royal Festical Hall. Damn damn damn! Oh well, I told myself > that that > show would have been sold out anyway... > > But the reason I'm writing is that at > the Teignmouth festival, I twice got a special "Joni buzz" that I > felt I > should tell you about. > At two of the concerts, after the intermission, the > musician in question announced that he/she had just received a > special request > and was now going to do a song by Joni Mitchell. Each time, there > was a > noticeable "ahh" coming from the audience when her name was > mentioned. It was > so unexpected, in this very "serious" jazz festival, that it made > the surprise > even more thrilling. It made me wonder if there was another JMDLer > secretly > in attendance. If so, please stand up and wave! In any case, it > must have > been a very determined Joni fan (or two) who had done his or her > research in > advance, because the song requests were for actual covers that had > been > recorded by those artists. > They are: Both Sides Now, a very beautiful > instrumental version by the fantastic pianist David Newton, and > River by the > singer Liane Carroll, another great talent I was very happy to have > discovered. > > Bob Muller, if you haven't got them yet (and I really hope I have > beaten you to it!) then let me know, and I will give you more > details and try > to get them for you. > > And then quickly something else which is kind-of Joni > related. Apparently there is a new film out, called Amelia, about - > yes - Ms > Earhart. I wonder if Joni's song will be used in the credits? The > film is > made by Mira Nair and features Hillary Swank and Richard Gere. For > anybody in > the UK, you can hear a Front Row interview with Mira Nair on the BBC > Radio 4 > website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qsq5 - just go to the > programme > for 13 November. From what I heard in this interview, I got the > impression > that Joni really managed to not just use Amelia as a vehicle for her > own > emotions, but that she really captured the spirit of Amelia Earhart > herself. > For instance, Amelia kept diaries and wrote: "The lure of flying is > the lure > of beauty". > If anybody knows any more about this film and whether Joni's song > is used, please let us know! > > Lieve in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:08:23 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Amelia film NJC I remember when I was a kid our family had Amelia Earhart luggage...what was up with that? Bob NP: Last night's "Colbert Report" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Hilary Swank is her usual excellent self but the screenplay and > particularly the editing were weak. The music was totally forgettable, > although by the usually good Gabriel Yared. If they had used Joni's Amelia > in the closing credits that would have been nice but I guess they wanted to > keep everything "period". > > One critic wrote, "this movie doesn't just not get off the ground, it > doesn't even get out of the hangar". However, I did learn quite a bit about > Amelia's story from it, so that was worth it. > > Dave > > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:10 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:54:57 +0000 (GMT) >> From: Lieve Reckers >> Subject: joni covers at jazz festival and new Amelia film >> >> I attended the Teignmouth Jazz Festival in Devon (England) this past >> weekend. >> I friend lives there and had invited me. The timing was a bit ironic, as >> I >> discovered on my way out from London, reading the paper on the train, that >> the >> London Jazz Festival had also started and that Melody Gardot was playing >> at >> the Royal Festical Hall. Damn damn damn! Oh well, I told myself that >> that >> show would have been sold out anyway... >> >> But the reason I'm writing is that at >> the Teignmouth festival, I twice got a special "Joni buzz" that I felt I >> should tell you about. >> At two of the concerts, after the intermission, the >> musician in question announced that he/she had just received a special >> request >> and was now going to do a song by Joni Mitchell. Each time, there was a >> noticeable "ahh" coming from the audience when her name was mentioned. It >> was >> so unexpected, in this very "serious" jazz festival, that it made the >> surprise >> even more thrilling. It made me wonder if there was another JMDLer >> secretly >> in attendance. If so, please stand up and wave! In any case, it must >> have >> been a very determined Joni fan (or two) who had done his or her research >> in >> advance, because the song requests were for actual covers that had been >> recorded by those artists. >> They are: Both Sides Now, a very beautiful >> instrumental version by the fantastic pianist David Newton, and River by >> the >> singer Liane Carroll, another great talent I was very happy to have >> discovered. >> >> Bob Muller, if you haven't got them yet (and I really hope I have >> beaten you to it!) then let me know, and I will give you more details and >> try >> to get them for you. >> >> And then quickly something else which is kind-of Joni >> related. Apparently there is a new film out, called Amelia, about - yes - >> Ms >> Earhart. I wonder if Joni's song will be used in the credits? The film >> is >> made by Mira Nair and features Hillary Swank and Richard Gere. For >> anybody in >> the UK, you can hear a Front Row interview with Mira Nair on the BBC Radio >> 4 >> website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qsq5 - just go to the >> programme >> for 13 November. From what I heard in this interview, I got the >> impression >> that Joni really managed to not just use Amelia as a vehicle for her own >> emotions, but that she really captured the spirit of Amelia Earhart >> herself. >> For instance, Amelia kept diaries and wrote: "The lure of flying is the >> lure >> of beauty". >> If anybody knows any more about this film and whether Joni's song >> is used, please let us know! >> >> Lieve in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:41:09 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: RE: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC Just took my first listen to Carey/Tambourine Man and laughed and laughed and LOL'd at Joni's 'Sing along, everyone, you all know this!' Nah, Joan. Give up on the singalongs (unless you wrote it, of course). It's your usual own twist on a classic. Passingly reminisent, but uniquely you. No one else could sing or arrange it like that. Brilliant. Takes me back! Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:16:10 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cell phones #s go public this month (I hope this is legit), njc, USA only >REMINDER..... all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing >companies and you will start to receive sales calls. >.... YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS It's not ligit. Snopes says, "Despite dire warnings about the imminent release of cell phone number to telemarketers that continue to be circulated via email year after year, cell phone users do not have to register their cell phone numbers with the national Do Not Call registery..." Read the whole thing here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp The easiest way to check to see if info is legit is to dump something into Google and see if it has a link to snopes.com. It's a site that debunks stuff like this. In this case, I Googled the phone number. To be clear, the phone number really is the FTC but there's no need to fear that telemarketers are about to swamp your cell phone. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:10:39 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Cell phones #s go public this month (I hope this is legit), njc, USA only I haven't tried that but it's a good idea - typically what I do is just go to snopes and use their search engine, it's a good one. I've had several co-workers who forward hoax/spam/false emails and I send them the snopes links with a little note telling them that maybe they should do some simple fact-checking BEFORE they "bear false witness" (throw some of that bible talk in there and it typically gets their attention). It's funny, because they seldom thank me for clearing up their misinformation; they usually drop me from their email list (which is OK if all they send is cr_p) or get mad at me for calling them out. I did have one co-worker who actually used me for her fact-checker, she'd send me emails and ask if they were true or not...people are funny. Bob, perpetual seeker of truth and beauty NP: The Bad Plus, "1972 Bronze Medalist" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:55:19 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC Funny you should say that, Anita. I felt the same way. I also thought it was funny that she would sing "Boney Maroney" (sp?) The feeling I got from the concert is that it was very last-minute, thrown-together and Joni was kind of making it all up as she went along. and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. She seems in very good spirits. Seems? Hmm, that was almost 40 years ago! No wonder Joan sounds so young! How often do we get the opportunity to hear Joan covering someone else's stuff? These recordings might be 39 years old, but some of the material is new to us. Makes me wonder what else might be out there. ________________________________ From: Anita G To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 11:41:09 AM Subject: RE: Amchitka, a live show from 1970 on CD, 100% JC Just took my first listen to Carey/Tambourine Man and laughed and laughed and LOL'd at Joni's 'Sing along, everyone, you all know this!' Nah, Joan. Give up on the singalongs (unless you wrote it, of course). It's your usual own twist on a classic. Passingly reminisent, but uniquely you. No one else could sing or arrange it like that. Brilliant. Takes me back! Anita x __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: E-mails I hate to get - njc (changed the subject because I'm veering off now) One of my pet peeves is the forwarded email that pretends to give information that, if it were true, would be available through legitimate news outlets, instead of from a select coterie of people from some kind of inner circle (heh heh). I have a cousin that I love to bits, but she's constantly forwarding that kind of stuff. Both my older sister and I have often responded saying she's fallen victim to a hoax and suggested Snopes or other debunking sites, but, after a while, I feel like a cranky old lady for doing that, so I've started to simply ignore and delete that kind of email without commenting. Let some other crank do it! (like my sister, for example.) What I particularly hate is those emails that tell you to forward to ten friends, or as many people as you can, and good luck will come to you. Yeah, right. The ones I really hate are the ones that have the lame-ass little pictures of big-eyed dogs or other critters wiggling around. Or variations on the happy face. That is SO 1990s! Oh yeah and the ones that claim they're quotes from George Carlin or Robin Williams or someone like that, that often include some weird racist thing in the middle of other quotes you've already heard many times before (but attributed to someone else.) ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Jim L'Hommedieu Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 2:10:39 PM Subject: Re: Cell phones #s go public this month (I hope this is legit), njc, USA only I haven't tried that but it's a good idea - typically what I do is just go to snopes and use their search engine, it's a good one. I've had several co-workers who forward hoax/spam/false emails and I send them the snopes links with a little note telling them that maybe they should do some simple fact-checking BEFORE they "bear false witness" (throw some of that bible talk in there and it typically gets their attention). It's funny, because they seldom thank me for clearing up their misinformation; they usually drop me from their email list (which is OK if all they send is cr_p) or get mad at me for calling them out. I did have one co-worker who actually used me for her fact-checker, she'd send me emails and ask if they were true or not...people are funny. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:15:14 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: E-mails I hate to get - njc (changed the subject because I'm veering off now) < if it were true, would be available through legitimate news outlets,> See, there you go...are there any legitimate news outlets out there? Just kidding...I know what you're talking about, they usually start off with "here's something you won't see in the LIBERAL news media..." Oh brother. That's why I like music - it doesn't lie. Bob NP: Steve Miller Band, "Baby's House" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Bob NP: Seal, "Waiting For You" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:07:50 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Travel and Leisure magazine I hope this helps, Les. Travel + Leisure's November issue has a nice piece on driving the canyons of L.A., focusing on fabled Laurel Canyon but also on Coldwater Canyon and Beverly Glen Blvd., all of which run north of Sunset Blvd. up to famous Mulholland Dr. Laurel is where our very own Joni Mitchell used to hang out, and it's worth the price of the magazine ($4.50) just to see the sunny shot of Mitchell on page 52. Many a famous singer has called the area home, including Mama Cass of the Mamas and the Papas ("California Dreaming" was their song, of course). I believe Cass was singing about Laurel when she warbled "young girls are coming to the canyon" in the song Twelve Thirty, one of their lesser known treasures. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:31:55 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Travel and Leisure magazine Am 18.11.2009 22:07, Wie Cassy so vortrefflich formulierte: > Travel + Leisure's November issue has a nice piece on driving the > canyons of L.A., focusing on fabled Laurel Canyon but also on Coldwater > Canyon and Beverly Glen Blvd., all of which run north of Sunset Blvd. up > to famous Mulholland Dr. http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/driving-through-los-angeles-canyons/1 No Jonipics, though. moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:29:43 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Travel and Leisure magazine now Twelve Thirty njc I believe Cass was singing about Laurel when she warbled "young > girls are coming to the canyon" in the song Twelve Thirty, one of > their lesser known treasures. You know Cassy, I don't remember ever hearing this song until I bought The Mamas and the Papas Greatest Hits cd a year or so ago. That line about 'young girls are coming to the canyon' I assumed referred to Laurel Canyon. But there was something vaguely lecherous about to me. I just assumed it was my mind wandering into the gutter as it sometimes does. But in view of recent revelations from MacKenzie Phillips, I'm beginning to wonder if it was more than my smutty side showing itself. 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