From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #281 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 22 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 281 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- 2 folk songs ? [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Re: 2 folk songs ? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: 2 folk songs ? ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: Joni, James & Phil..... ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: 2 folk songs ? [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Girls Like Us (the concert event) [c Karma ] Re: Girls Like Us (the concert event) [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Roses Blue instrument [Corey Blake ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:35:07 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: 2 folk songs ? I am curious as to which 2 songs is she referring to? Does anyone know? There also are [unreleased songs with] pretty melodies and 'tunesmithy' lyrics. I've always been called a folk singer, from the time I made my first record. I've only recorded two folk songs in my whole career, but I used to sing folk songs before I began to write, and there are [tapes] of those - and that's kind of interesting. It's a piece of the evolution that's missing from [my] records." - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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"The Silky Veils Of Ardor" and "A Bird That Whistles" are both adapted from traditional folk songs. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:16 AM > To: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: 2 folk songs ? > > know?> > > Can't say that I KNOW, but I'd guess she's referring to The Circle Game > & > Urge For Going. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Much of these notes seem to be from Steve Matteo's 1991 article about NRH: http://jonimitchell.com/library/pdf.cfm?id=63 I do hope this stuff is on the box set, but I wonder. . . > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Mark Scott > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:26 PM > To: Peter Holmstedt; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Joni, James & Phil..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Holmstedt" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:29 AM > Subject: Joni, James & Phil..... > > > > http://www.hemifran.com/news.html (18.09.09) > > > > If you scroll further down this page, there is information about other > interesting upcoming releases, including the Joni Mitchell box set. > There are comments from Joni about it. She does mention the famed > Mingus alternate takes and some of her unreleased early material: > > 15.08.2009 > > Joni Mitchell Box..... > > In November 2009, Rhino Entertainment will be releasing a Joni > Mitchell box set. The 4CD/1DVD-package will have over 85 songs, from > the mid-sixties up to Joni's last album "Shine". Several unreleased > songs and alternate versions will be included, plus very rare and > previously unissued video performances spanning Joni's incomparable > career. Joni will be contributing notes to the package and overseeing > the photo edit and design. > > Instead of traditional liner notes, Joni would like to invite the > online Joni Mitchell-community to send in a statement of why they > enjoy the music. It can be one sentence or a short paragraph and the > best will be chosen for the liner notes for the project. It can be a > personal experience with the music or why in general you like it. > > Here are some notes from Joni herself on working the box set : > > > "The tapes from my first record have been in David Crosby's possession > all these years - it's like a miracle that they didn't go up in smoke > or something. And there are a lot of [unreleased] songs from back then > that would be impossible for me to sing now - they're really ingenue > works. There also are some bits of banter between Crosby and me on the > first record. And there is in existence the fledgling flight of 'Both > Sides Now' at the Second Fret in Philadelphia. > > There are tracks from the Mingus album, which was cut with four of > five different bands; with some of them I do better vocal > performances. I wanted to come into jazz and take it somewhere. There > are some tracks where I don't take it anywhere, that are just straight > meat-and-potatoes jazz where I'm actually singing better than I did > [on the commercially released tracks]. The album I put out is a little > more out there. > > There's a lot of other stuff back there as well. For instance, the > first album was a conceptual album. I had so much material that the > first side is called 'I Came To The City'' and the second side is > called 'Out Of The City & Down To The Seaside'. It's that same > recurring theme: What are cities doing to nature? There are > [unreleased] songs from that era, one of them called 'Jeremy', which > is a nice song about a kid thrown into prison for pot. > > There also are [unreleased songs with] pretty melodies and > 'tunesmithy' lyrics. I've always been called a folk singer, from the > time I made my first record. I've only recorded two folk songs in my > whole career, but I used to sing folk songs before I began to write, > and there are [tapes] of those - and that's kind of interesting. It's > a piece of the evolution that's missing from [my] records." > > > Thank you for sending the link, Peter. This sounds like it might be > what we've been waiting for. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:56:21 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Re: 2 folk songs ? Thanks... While I wouldn't disagree - I also considered Woodstock and Both Sides Now as well. She (Joni) claims in a 1995 interview that she was only writing folk up to 1965 and then she refers to her music after this period as playlets or soliloquies. I also remember that Patty Larkin did not like being referred to as a folk artist and preferred to think of herself as an "acoustic-based singer-songwriter". Maybe I just don't understand the dictinction between folk music and other genres. ======================================================================================================= Can't say that I KNOW, but I'd guess she's referring to The Circle Game & Urge For Going. Bob - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:02:09 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: Girls Like Us (the concert event) I know that book has been widely discussed on the list, and though I'm not sure if Joni is down with the basic premise of inclusion I still will enjoy attending this concert on October 5. Since I have to miss the Jonifest 2009 in SoCal, I will take the opportunity to see quality performers work Joni's material locally. Tickets are going fast so if you're in the NYC area in early October, get yours now! http://kaufman-center.org/merkin-concert-hall/event/girls-like-us CC _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:13:56 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Girls Like Us (the concert event) All favorite singers of mine. Damn you New Yorkers are lucky. Jerry On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM, c Karma wrote: > I know that book has been widely discussed on the list, and though I'm not > sure if Joni is down with the basic premise of inclusion I still will enjoy > attending this concert on October 5. Since I have to miss the Jonifest > 2009 > in SoCal, I will take the opportunity to see quality performers work Joni's > material locally. Tickets are going fast so if you're in the NYC area in > early October, get yours now! > http://kaufman-center.org/merkin-concert-hall/event/girls-like-us > CC > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie > times and more without leaving Hotmail.. > > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_QuickAdd_062009 > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:47:36 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: re: Roses Blue instrument Hi all, I was away for a bit for my 'baby' (he's 40) brother's wedding so I missed the development of this thread. The wedding was beautiful, btw. It was on a beach on Lake Michigan. Weather could not have been better. Now that the hammered dulcimer has been brought up, I think I could buy that. I haven't heard any in a long while, but I do have some cassette tapes (remember those?) of a solo hammered dulcimer player. I could dig those out and give them a listen and compare. Good job, folks! Peace, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:02:15 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Roses Blue instrument Thanks for bringing this back up, David. You reminded me there that I thought I remembered someone mentioning that Joni didn't discover the dulcimer until the following year. Is that true or am I misremembering what was said? Would that eliminate the hammered dulcimer as being this mysterious instrument? And any word from Joel Bernstein? - -Corey On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:47 PM, David Eoll wrote: > Hi all, > > I was away for a bit for my 'baby' (he's 40) brother's wedding so I > missed the development of this thread. The wedding was beautiful, > btw. It was on a beach on Lake Michigan. Weather could not have > been better. > > Now that the hammered dulcimer has been brought up, I think I could > buy that. I haven't heard any in a long while, but I do have some > cassette tapes (remember those?) of a solo hammered dulcimer > player. I could dig those out and give them a listen and compare. > Good job, folks! > > Peace, > David ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #281 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------