From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #275 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 16 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 275 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Jim Carroll has died, died (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Clouds credits [Susan McNamara ] Re: Jonifest 2009 performances njc [Anita G ] Re: Clouds credits [Corey Blake ] Re: Jim Carroll has died, died (njc) [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: In France They Can't Kiss on Main Street???? [Dan Olson Yeah, that would definitely be their style - to add the verse for Jim. The DBT's really embody the rock and roll spirit for me, their live shows can turn into barnburners that go on for 3 hours plus, and they have a couple of songwriters and vocalists so their albums retain a healthy diversity (as opposed to say, Son Volt). It's been an amazing year for DBT fans; Jason Isbell (former Trucker) released his 2nd solo album, as did Patterson Hood (still an integral part of the band). They back up Booker T on his outstanding 2009 record "Potato Hole". The band released a live at Austin City Limits CD/DVD, and just released a collection of misc tracks that were left off previous albums called "The Fine Print". Thematically they write about the darker side of the south and Americana in general; very gritty and honest songwriting. If you're interested in a starting off point, I started with "The Dirty South" and would recommend it for anyone who wants to dip their toes into the murky DBT waters. Bob NP: Apples In Stereo, "7 Stars" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:34:04 -0400 From: Susan McNamara Subject: RE: Clouds credits Hi, Paul reminded me that Joni produced her early albums except for Song for a Seagull (David Crosby) with Henry Lewy, and I want to say, although my memory is sketchy, that she said she experimented with processing (ala the Beatles). Could this be a Stephen Stills lick processed to sound spookily eastern? Since Stephen is the only guitarist credited on the album, this would be my guess. I did a search on Michael Vossi and his name came up as a PR guy for the Beach Boys, so I'm not sure if he was a musician. Just throwing that out there, Sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:52 +0100 From: Paul Castle Subject: Re: Roses Blue instrument I think Dave's right - it sounds like a hammered dulcimer to me - [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammered_dulcimer ] although it does sound like it's been processed in some way. Love the sound - my absolute favourite example is in Rory Block's version of "The Golden Vanity" - listen @ http://www.last.fm/music/Rory+Blcok/_/The+Golden+Vanity?autostart very best to all PaulC (who featured a hammered dulcimer - played by Mat Fox - on my TV theme song for 'Old Bear Stories' - http://sn.im/old_bear_stories ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:50:20 +0200 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Jonifest 2009 performances njc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:02:05 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Clouds credits Hi Sue, While it's certainly possible that is Steven Stills playing, I'm not completely convinced since the CD liner notes make no mention of him. Only Allmusic.com & Wikipedia.com have him listed there and both have been known to be wrong. They also have Joni credited as playing keyboards on the album when there are no keyboards on the album. I assume the vinyl album liner notes are the same as the CD version but I can't verify that. But you are right that Joni did produce Clouds (with the exception of "Tin Angel", which was produced by Paul Rothchild), and the mystery instrument on "Roses Blue" definitely sounds processed in some way to me. - -Corey On Sep 15, 2009, at 6:34 AM, Susan McNamara wrote: > Hi, > > Paul reminded me that Joni produced her early albums except for Song > for a Seagull (David Crosby) with Henry Lewy, and I want to say, > although my memory is sketchy, that she said she experimented with > processing (ala the Beatles). Could this be a Stephen Stills lick > processed to sound spookily eastern? Since Stephen is the only > guitarist credited on the album, this would be my guess. I did a > search on Michael Vossi and his name came up as a PR guy for the > Beach Boys, so I'm not sure if he was a musician. > > Just throwing that out there, Sue > > > ___________________ > /___________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:14:52 +0100 > From: Paul Castle > Subject: Re: Roses Blue instrument > > I think Dave's right - it sounds like a hammered dulcimer to me - > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammered_dulcimer ] although > it does sound like it's been processed in some way. > > Love the sound - my absolute favourite example is in > Rory Block's version of "The Golden Vanity" - listen @ > http://www.last.fm/music/Rory+Blcok/_/The+Golden+Vanity?autostart > > very best to all > PaulC > (who featured a hammered dulcimer - > played by Mat Fox - on my TV theme > song for 'Old Bear Stories' - > http://sn.im/old_bear_stories ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:32 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Jim Carroll has died, died (njc) Jim's obit in the NYT was very good, I thought. I got friendly with him in the last five years, quite by accident. I eat breakfast regularly at a diner on 23rd and 8th and about once a week there would be a group in a nearby booth: several young men and an older guy with red hair and a hoarse voice who did most of the talking. I heard him mention "The Basketball Diaries" quite a few times and guessed it was a book he'd written that had been made into a film. The diner his sort of literary salon, the younger guys (rarely a woman) were just getting started in writing and film, I gathered, and the redheaded,older fellow was sharing experience from much further down the road. Then one day I was clambering around on a ladder in the Strand Bookstore and found a copy of the book, bought it, read it. Jim Carroll (in the book), was a poor kid from Inwood, on a scholarship (or the equivalent) to an unnamed private school in Manhattan. His ticket was his basketball ability and one of their opponents was Riverdale, my alma mater. But I am 8 years older and no athlete. One day in the diner, I asked him what school he'd been to, explaining my Riverdale connections. When he said "Trinity," I told him I thought that one of my teachers (an unlikeable fellow) later reigned as headmaster at Trinity. Carroll was indignant: "I hated that prick!" etc. So a bond was formed. Over the next few years, we talked sports, a little music. I read his later book, "Forced Entries," and told him I thought it was a palpable step forward in writing and he agreed. In the last year I saw him only three times, perhaps.He said he'd moved to Brooklyn and I could see plainly that his health and finances were going downhill. His ex-wife, now a lawyer, was giving some help. The sad news of his death is not a surprise; he was long past his creative prime but a sweet-tempered, interesting breakfast companion. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:48:01 -0500 From: Dan Olson Subject: Re: In France They Can't Kiss on Main Street???? Patti: I was so caught up in the thread about "Roses Blue" (sorry nothing new on that from) that I just now went back to your post, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry ("you know its the same release"). I loved it. ~Dan On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > Bon weekend, Joniami(e)s! > > No REAL (newsbreaking) Joni Content here...just putting some Joni flowers > round the room and throwing the lightness on these things, so don't day I > didn't warn ya! ; ) > > A few days ago I received a Joni challenge from an anonymous and kind > JMDLER. > > Voila: > > > Patti, this story is perfect for you, I'd love to hear your take for the > JMDL. > > Due to fear of spreading the H1N1 virus, French officials are > urging citizens not to kiss during public greetings, known as 'la > bise'. > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/swine-flu-fears-force-fra_n_278789.h > tml > > *********** > > So now, it being Saturday and having a bit of time on my hands, I shall do > my > best. > > Let's start out with the tiny url, for Herr Muller (nobody's harder on me > than > him...LOL!): > > http://tinyurl.com/nu9r68 > > "Swine Flu Fears Force France to Say 'Au Revoir" to Kissing Custom > > Sitting in park in Paris. France, reading the news and it sure looks bad, > they > won't give bises a chance! (Bises is pronounced "beeze"...rhymes with > peace.) > > You just have to laugh, cuz it's all so crazy. The French will NEVER give > up > their bises! Jamais! Believe me. I brought this up at a French Peoples > Party > the other night and everyone just pooh-poohed it. The French kiss, and > that's > that. They like roses, and kisses, and pretty men. They'd even kiss a > sunset > pig. And they have got a thing that's unique and new. To prove, I'll have > the last laugh on you, cuz instead of ONE kiss, they give TWO. > > Does the Health Ministry really think that the swine flu will slaughter > half > of France? > > Kisses like bright flags, hung on holidays. Amour, mama, not swine flu > danger! (You have to pronounce "danger" as "donjay"...."don" as in "Don > Juan's Reckless Daugher, vous savez.) > > And now, quelle synchronicite, I am racing away to -- oui, oui! -- another > French Peoples Party. A reunion of the 1969-1970 (bonne annees!) Study > Abroad in France group from UConn. They are gathering to reminisce, and > also > to celebrate the 90th birthday of their professor/director, M. Barberet. > Ninety years old, just like Pete Seeger! He was my favorite professor when > I > was a student there. He taught me the deeeEEEeeeper meaning of Proust, and > Rousseau walking on trumpet paths. I won't know these alumni (my group was > 1974-1975, circa MOA), just a few profs. I'm really just going to > represent > my department and honor M. B. I guess I'll have to put a rose in my teeth > and wear a lampshade crown to get some attention. Or maybe I'll just sit > in a > corner like poor Eddie, thinking I'm nobody. All the people at this party > will > have a lot of style, I'm sure. They've got stamps of many countries, and > many > are quite accomplished. One was Pres. of the Julliard School of Music, I > think, and there are some attorneys and superintendents and even a state > supreme court justice from across the state borderline. Oh babies, I don't > know it if I can make it with them, socially. But I, in my leather and > lace, > I can never become that kind... > > I'll bet that everyone, though, will be laughing and crying at all of the > hope > and the hopelessness we've witnessed forty years. If we had our way we'd > just > walk through doors and wander, down the Champs Elysee, going cafe to > cabaret.... > > STOP! How do you STOP? I don't hurry up and shower off the dust, it will > be > very late when I walk in as they are all sitting in the lounge of the > Nathan > Hale hotel, drinking for diversion. A little money riding on the UConn > Huskeeees (big game today against Muller's Tarheels...they've got beach tar > on > their feet, I guess)...along comes a lady in lacy sleeves! I just hope I > don't go up to some coyote and say: "You better sit down, you know > drinking > alone's is a shame." > Gotta keep my Joni mouth shut! > > M.B. confided to me that's he worried (he worries sometimes) that he won't > recognize these 60 year-old faces. Darn right. They probably look haggard > in > the bathroom lights. They won't match their passports smiles from the old > days, birth of rock and roll days. So this I told him: > > But in France they say > Every day puts on a new face > Every day puts on a new face > Love has many faces > Many, many faces. > > Amour et bises, > > Patti-Boo (that's what some French people call me) > > > > > > > > "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd > be > peace." > -- John Lennon > > http://www.imaginepeace.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. 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