From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #256 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, August 28 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 256 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- eBay and Joni's Art - Look What's Up For Auction This Week [est86mlm@amer] Thirty Something Show and Joni [est86mlm@ameritech.net] NJC RIP Ellie Greenwich [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Needed Funds for this site [Dave Blackburn ] Pope hope, njc [Laura Stanley ] Re: Needed Funds for this site [Kate Johnson ] Re: Needed Funds for this site [Michael Flaherty ] Re: NJC RIP Ellie Greenwich [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC--Sen. Edward Kennedy has died. [Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: eBay and Joni's Art - Look What's Up For Auction This Week Actually, the photographer Jack Robinson died many years ago. - - -----Original Message----- Is this the same Jack Robinson who took all those WAY COOL photos of Joni way back when? - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:54:21 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Thirty Something Show and Joni Hi Mia, Some interesting trivia........ Check out the Library on JM.com and click on Cultural References and then "Television". Scroll down to Thirty Something. JMDLr's have discovered three of Joni's songs in three different episodes of Thirty Something. River Circle Game All I Want (quoted lyric) Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:11:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC RIP Ellie Greenwich http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112264404 Co-writer of an amazing list of hit songs that will live forever. Bob NP: Regina Spektor, "Laughing With" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:47:07 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Needed Funds for this site You hardly know where to start with remarks like this; Spelling? Attitude? Argument? Shifting referents? On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:15:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Willie Yanock > Subject: Needed Funds for this site > > Come on people! their asking for only $1700.00!!!! Of course Ms. > Mitchell, Mr. > Feldman, and even little Larry Klein spend that much on a LUNCH. How > can a > group of conceited, opinionated, and self promoting people ever find > a site as > good as this to pat each other on each others asses. I fore one will > donate a > dime if I find one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Pope hope, njc B The New York Times July 13, 2009 Op-Ed Columnist The Audacity of the Pope By ROSS DOUTHAT Papal encyclicals are supposed to be written with one eye on two millenniums of Catholic teaching, and the other on eternity. But Americans, as a rule, have rather narrower horizons. As soon as the media have finished scanning a Vatican document for references to sex, the debate begins in earnest: Is it good for the left, or for the right? For Democrats, or for Republicans? This was true in the 1950s, when the young William F. Buckley Jr. famously feuded with liberals over how much respect he owed to papal pronouncements on economic matters. It was true in the 1990s, when conservatives eagerly cited John Paul IIbs condemnations of abortion and euthanasia, while liberals countered by noting his criticisms of the death penalty. And itbs especially true today, when a document like bCaritas in Veritateb (bCharity in Truthb), the third encyclical of Benedict XVIbs papacy b whose release, last Tuesday, was slightly overshadowed by a celebrity funeral of some sort b can be wrangled over endlessly within hours of showing up online. These arguments never seem to go anywhere. When a pope criticizes legalized abortion, liberal Catholics nod and say that yes, they agree, itbs a terrible tragedy ... but of course they canbt impose their religious values on a secular society. When a pope endorses the redistribution of wealth, conservative Catholics stroke their chins and say that yes, they agree, society needs a safety net ... but of course theybre duty-bound to oppose the tyranny of big government. And when the debate isnbt going their way, left and right both fall back on flaccid rhetoric about how the papal message btranscends politics,b and shouldnbt be turned to any partisan purpose. bCaritas in Veritateb has been no exception. Itbs a bsocialb encyclical, in the churchbs parlance, covering issues ranging from globalization and the environment to unions and the welfare state. Inevitably, liberal Catholics spent the past week touting its relevance to the Democratic Partybs policy positions. (A representative blast e-mail: bPopebs Encyclical on Global Economy Supports the Principles of the Employee Free Choice Act.b) Just as inevitably, conservative Catholics hastened to explain that the encyclical bis not a political documentb b to quote a statement co-authored by the House minority leader, John Boehner b and shouldnbt be read as ban endorsement of any political or economic agenda.b Boehner is half right. The pope is not a Democrat or a Republican, and his vision doesnbt fit the normal categories of American politics. But Benedictbs encyclical is nothing if not political. bCaritas in Veritateb promotes a vision of economic solidarity rooted in moral conservatism. It links the dignity of labor to the sanctity of marriage. It praises the redistribution of wealth while emphasizing the importance of decentralized governance. It connects the despoiling of the environment to the mass destruction of human embryos. This is not a message youbre likely to hear in Barack Obamabs next State of the Union, or in the Republican Partybs response. It represents a kind of left-right fusionism with little traction in American politics. But thatbs precisely what makes it so relevant and challenging b for Catholics and non-Catholics alike. Webre passing through the worst economic dislocation of the past 80 years. Our politics are polarized; our institutions gridlocked. The governing party is mistrusted, the minority party despised. Yet therebs remarkably little radical thinking taking place. The Republican Party is retrenching, falling back on Reagan-era verities. His promises of post-partisan change notwithstanding, Barack Obamabs agenda looks like the same old Democratic laundry list, rewritten in a sleeker, Internet-era font. This doesnbt mean that America needs a third party with bCaritas in Veritateb as its platform. The church is not a think tank, and therebs room for wide disagreement about how to put its social teaching into practice. But Catholics are obliged to take seriously the underlying provocation of the papal message b namely, that our present political alignments are not the only ones imaginable, and that truth may not be served by perfect ideological conformity. So should all people of good will. For liberals and conservatives alike, bCaritas in Veritateb is an invitation to think anew about their alliances and litmus tests. Why should being pro-environment preclude being pro-life? Why canbt Republicans worry about economic inequality, and Democrats consider devolving more power to localities and states? Does opposing the Iraq war mean that you have to endorse an anything-goes approach to bioethics? Does supporting free trade require supporting the death penalty? These questions, and many others like them, are the kind that a healthy political system would allow voters and politicians to explore. But for now, at least, youbre more likely to find them being raised in Benedict XVIbs Vatican than in Barack Obamabs Washington. B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:03:00 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Needed Funds for this site It's easy to assume that Joni is involved with the site and that she could easily fund it, and should, and to wonder why she doesn't. Many people who visit the site surely think that's the case, not knowing that it is fan-supported. That's in the small print! Kate ~http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Life at Golden Grain Farm~ On 27-Aug-09, at 7:47 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: You hardly know where to start with remarks like this; Spelling? Attitude? Argument? Shifting referents? On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:15:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Willie Yanock > Subject: Needed Funds for this site > > Come on people! their asking for only $1700.00!!!! Of course Ms. > Mitchell, Mr. > Feldman, and even little Larry Klein spend that much on a LUNCH. > How can a > group of conceited, opinionated, and self promoting people ever > find a site as > good as this to pat each other on each others asses. I fore one > will donate a > dime if I find one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Needed Funds for this site Also, the money is for the web page, which is a great source for, and open to anyone interested in Joni, not for this email group (which I assume costs nothing but time). Michael F. ________________________________ From: Kate Johnson To: Dave Blackburn Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:03:00 AM Subject: Re: Needed Funds for this site It's easy to assume that Joni is involved with the site and that she could easily fund it, and should, and to wonder why she doesn't. Many people who visit the site surely think that's the case, not knowing that it is fan-supported. That's in the small print! Kate ~http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Life at Golden Grain Farm~ On 27-Aug-09, at 7:47 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: You hardly know where to start with remarks like this; Spelling? Attitude? Argument? Shifting referents? On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:15:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Willie Yanock > Subject: Needed Funds for this site > > Come on people! their asking for only $1700.00!!!! Of course Ms. > Mitchell, Mr. > Feldman, and even little Larry Klein spend that much on a LUNCH. > How can a > group of conceited, opinionated, and self promoting people ever > find a site as > good as this to pat each other on each others asses. I fore one > will donate a > dime if I find one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC RIP Ellie Greenwich - --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112264404 > > Co-writer of an amazing list of hit songs that will live > forever. > Another one gone. Too bad. She wrote some fine tunes that I always associate with summer. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:24:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: NJC--Sen. Edward Kennedy has died. It's a sad day indeed. I'm from Massachusetts. I remember working on Ted Kennedy's first campaign - even though I was way too young to vote. (When the invite came for the volunteer thank you party, my sister got to go with my mother. I was bummed, but there were only 2 tickets...) And I know it's sad he didn't get to be here for nationwide health care reform, but he did see it come to pass in his state. And that's something. Senator Kennedy did a lot for individuals, his state, and his country. He could have led a life of leisure, sailing the waters off Cape Cod. Instead, he chose to serve his country - despite personal heartache and (quite possibly) a certain level of danger, given his brothers' fates. As a fellow sailor, I wish him smooth sailing to his next horizon. lots of love, Anne On Aug 26, 2009, T Peckham wrote: I can't believe I'm sitting here crying . . . I just posted--along with hundreds of people in just a few minutes (and continuing)--at DailyKos.com: We knew it was coming but . . . . . . so sad that he didn't live to see any meaningful health care reform pass. On a selfish note--this has been a terrible year for baby boomers, with so many of our icons passing on. Facing one's own mortality and all that; but for me, at least, I'm wondering where all the wise grown-ups have gone. "You've never seen everything. . ." Bruce Cockburn -- Some things in life it just gets too late to learn . . . --Bob Dylan ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #256 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------