From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #246 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 18 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 246 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Woodstock [Ms Bene Lux ] Re: Woodstock [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Woodstock [Em ] Re: Woodstock [Ms Bene Lux ] Re: Woodstock [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Petition against Codex Alimentarius [gerard mclaughlin ] NJC, This Flight Tonight [Patti Parlette ] Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven [Jeannie ] Re: Woodstock [Ms Bene Lux ] Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven [Jeannie ] Re: NJC No health insurance [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Recording audio at Woodstock, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Woodstock Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never ever heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed it a Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the song. Was it really big in the US...? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Woodstock >>>Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never ever heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed it a Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the song. Was it really big in the US...? Bene This would have been an "FM" station when they still played "album cuts" and the "hits" stations were on AM. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Woodstock HI Bene, the CSN version was really huge. And then here, locally, in Tampa Florida, the Matthews Southern Comfort version was on the a.m. radio quite a bit. I never heard Joni's til I started getting into her more in the mid 70's although I was awre she had written it. :) Em - --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Ms Bene Lux wrote: From: Ms Bene Lux Subject: Woodstock To: "Joni List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:08 AM Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never ever heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed it a Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the song. Was it really big in the US...? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:22:40 +0200 From: Ms Bene Lux Subject: Re: Woodstock Ah, Michael, this may explain it. We had radio monopoly! I think some sophisticated people listened to Radio Luxemburg, but apart form that, "rhythmic music" was on Channel three, Radio Denmark and that was it. It is possible that the song was played there though... Bene On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Michael Flaherty wrote: >>>>Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never ever >>>> heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed it a >>>> Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the song. >>>> Was it really big in the US...? Bene > > > This would have been an "FM" station when they still played "album cuts" and > the "hits" stations were on AM. > > Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:32:42 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Woodstock Now I can't comment on the popularity of other people's versions of Woodstock but in the early 1990's I was in a bar band that did rock & blues covers (The Eagles, America, Jimi Hendrix and such the like) and I loaned the guitarist LOTC. A coupla days later at a rehearsal he said 'What has she done to Woodstock? It's freaky.' to which I replied,' You can do what you like to a song when you write it, I guess.''She didn't write it - it was Matthews Southern Comfort!' Yeah, Joni didn't get very far in rural East Anglia/East Midlands. I did correct him but he was still incredulous... 2009/8/17 Ms Bene Lux > Ah, Michael, this may explain it. We had radio monopoly! I think some > sophisticated people listened to Radio Luxemburg, but apart form that, > "rhythmic music" was on Channel three, Radio Denmark and that was it. > It is possible that the song was played there though... > > Bene > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Michael Flaherty > wrote: > >>>>Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never > ever > >>>> heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed > it a > >>>> Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the > song. > >>>> Was it really big in the US...? Bene > > > > > > This would have been an "FM" station when they still played "album cuts" > and > > the "hits" stations were on AM. > > > > Michael F. > - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Painter, Photographer. Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/965489410181 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 Website: http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Randomly Related Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:38:55 +0100 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Petition against Codex Alimentarius Codex Alimentarius is a law designed to hand over natural remedies to the pharmeceutical giants..it has all been very hush hush . Today I received a request to sign a petition against it which would be sent to the Prime Minister of the UK. I was more than pleased to sign and send but delighted to see our Joni quoted in the petition. It read : Like many health and safety matters this was started with good intentions, in 1962 by the UN, to establish international free trade foods but has become a major threat to our civil liberties and freedom of choice. As the song says: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT TILL IT'S GONE. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Back To The Garden, on nytimes There's also a thread called Back To The Garden, authored by Marian Rizzo. This one is a title from a section in New York Times : http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/17/arts/music/17heroes.html?_r=1 "Back To The Garden" seems to be in vogue this week. Isn't it interesting how a woman who didn't participate in Woodstock made the best song, and the best phrases, about it? Rian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:47:36 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: NJC, This Flight Tonight Querido Joniamigos: I'm packing my suspenders, off to the airport, my name's in the JMDL and everything's first class. The lights go down and it's just JONI up here getting us to feeeel like that. Yes, I'm going to see my Circle Game son after the longest separation we've had since his birth on August 30, 1978. NPIMH: "the mother and child reu-nion is only a motion away, oh, little darling of mine." He lives outside of Chicago. Any JMDLers from the area want to meet up? We could laugh and toast to Joni. "Won't you please come to Chicago, no one else can take your place!" I have a little fantasy. Did any of you have parties when your parents went away, when we were wild in the old days? I'm imagining have a bunch of Joni people over to his house while he's at work. Then he'll get home and say: "MOM! What are all these JONI people doing in my house????" Okay, I have to get moving (but I want to stay still). It's a BSN trip to the airport. I'm stopping at the post office to mail a care package to the son of my best friend from high school. He is in Afghanistan. I just cannot imagine. It feels so unfair that I am off to have fun with "my firstborn son, that special one", and hers is in a war zone. "I'm living with war in my heart, everyday. I living with war, right now." Undoes all the joy that could be sometimes. Sending peaceful Woodstocky vibes to all, Patti P. "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven Have you read Richard Henry Stoddard, another American poet from around the time of Emily Dickinson? On his long Songs of Summer, in one stanza he writes about a ruby and melchin lace, too. I wonder if they borrowed this from one another? Jeannie - --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven To: "Rian Afriadi" , "Joni people!" Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:50 AM I love Emily Dickinson. She wrote so beautifully and poetically. When I was in Boston this past week, I wanted to go to her town of Amherst but it was just too far from Boston. Great, great writer though. - -M - --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Rian Afriadi wrote: I never read poems as many as I do these days. I also translate it, english to indonesian vice versa. I'm having problems with this poem. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven (which is also sung by Carla Bruni) I went to heaven 'Twas a small town Lit with a ruby Lathed with down -- Stiller than the fields And the full dew Beautiful a pictures No man drew, People like the moth of Melchin, frames Duties of gossamer And eider names Almost contented I could be 'Mong such unique Society I can't understand these lines : People like the moth of Melchin, frames Duties of gossamer And eider names Somebody can help? Rian Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:40:33 +0200 From: Ms Bene Lux Subject: Re: Woodstock Ah right, I didn't really pay any attention to CSN back at that time. I asked on facebook, and my german friend said he thought he might have heard the song performed by them. I find it a little hard to warm up to it so am surprised that so many people love it... Bn On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Em wrote: > HI Bene, the CSN version was really huge. And then here, locally, in Tampa > Florida, the Matthews Southern Comfort version was on the a.m. radio quite a > bit. I never heard Joni's til I started getting into her more in the mid > 70's although I was awre she had written it. > :) > Em > > --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Ms Bene Lux wrote: > > From: Ms Bene Lux > Subject: Woodstock > To: "Joni List" > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:08 AM > > Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never > ever heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody > performed it a Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else > talk about the song. > Was it really big in the US...? > Bene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:42:22 +0200 From: Ms Bene Lux Subject: Re: Woodstock Oh those people who didn't believe you when you were right! Carved into your memory :-D !!!! Off to search youtube... Bn On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Jamie Zubairi Home wrote: > Now I can't comment on the popularity of other people's versions of > Woodstock but in the early 1990's I was in a bar band that did rock & blues > covers (The Eagles, America, Jimi Hendrix and such the like) and I loaned > the guitarist LOTC. A coupla days later at a rehearsal he said 'What has she > done to Woodstock? It's freaky.' to which I replied,' You can do what you > like to a song when you write it, I guess.' > 'She didn't write it - it was Matthews Southern Comfort!' > Yeah, Joni didn't get very far in rural East Anglia/East Midlands. > I did correct him but he was still incredulous... > > 2009/8/17 Ms Bene Lux >> >> Ah, Michael, this may explain it. We had radio monopoly! I think some >> sophisticated people listened to Radio Luxemburg, but apart form that, >> "rhythmic music" was on Channel three, Radio Denmark and that was it. >> It is possible that the song was played there though... >> >> Bene >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Michael Flaherty >> wrote: >> >>>>Hmmm... forgive my ignorance when I ask the following. I have never >> >>>> ever >> >>>> heard Woodstock except from on Joni's CDs or when somebody performed >> >>>> it a >> >>>> Jonifest. Never on the radio, never heard anyone else talk about the >> >>>> song. >> >>>> Was it really big in the US...? Bene >> > >> > >> > This would have been an "FM" station when they still played "album cuts" >> > and >> > the "hits" stations were on AM. >> > >> > Michael F. > > > > -- > Jamie Zubairi > Actor, Painter, Photographer. > > Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: > http://www.justgiving.com/zooby > > Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at > http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 > > acting CV and showreel at > http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 > http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/965489410181 > > agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk > 01273 323 010 > Website: > http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk > > Randomly Related Blog: > http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:59:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven Sorry, I wrote 'melchin' instead of mechlin. A very easy spelling mistake to make. Oh, and Stoddard also mentions eider, too, on the next stanza on his 'Songs of Summer', like Em Dickinson does on 'I Went To Heaven.' They were surely in cahoots. Jeannie PS: Please send some loving vibes from where ever you may be for my son's grandmother who is on her death-bed at her home. She's lucid, full of grace and so full of love. It's breaking my heart to have to let her go. She looked beautiful when I saw her yesterday afternoon. My son's going to see her in a bit, so every prayer or good thought or meditation will help us all through this transition. Thank you. From: Jeannie dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com Have you read Richard Henry Stoddard, another American poet from around the time of Emily Dickinson? On his long Songs of Summer, in one stanza he writes about a ruby and melchin lace, too. I wonder if they borrowed this from one another? Jeannie - --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: NJC. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven To: "Rian Afriadi" , "Joni people!" Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:50 AM I love Emily Dickinson. She wrote so beautifully and poetically. When I was in Boston this past week, I wanted to go to her town of Amherst but it was just too far from Boston. Great, great writer though. - -M - --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Rian Afriadi wrote: I never read poems as many as I do these days. I also translate it, english to indonesian vice versa. I'm having problems with this poem. Emily Dickinson - I Went To Heaven (which is also sung by Carla Bruni) I went to heaven 'Twas a small town Lit with a ruby Lathed with down -- Stiller than the fields And the full dew Beautiful a pictures No man drew, People like the moth of Melchin, frames Duties of gossamer And eider names Almost contented I could be 'Mong such unique Society I can't understand these lines : People like the moth of Melchin, frames Duties of gossamer And eider names Somebody can help? Rian Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:20:40 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... > http://tinyurl.com/ol9f8g Looking at the ebay ad i noticed that Cheech & Chong are credited on "Court & Spank" (love this title). A Joni record is the last place i would expect to see this comic duo. Does anybody (Hi Bob) know the history behind this (major, hmm) contribution? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:47:05 +0000 From: "Zooby" Subject: Re: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... Yes indeed Laurent, they provide the voices in Twisted, that wouldve been spoken by Lambert and Hendricks in the Annie Ross original. Cheech and Chong also mention Joni's music in one of their later films. - ------Original Message------ From: Laurent Olszer Sender: owner-joni@smoe.org To: Joni JMDL ReplyTo: Laurent Olszer Subject: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... Sent: 17 Aug 2009 19:20 > http://tinyurl.com/ol9f8g Looking at the ebay ad i noticed that Cheech & Chong are credited on "Court & Spank" (love this title). A Joni record is the last place i would expect to see this comic duo. Does anybody (Hi Bob) know the history behind this (major, hmm) contribution? Laurent Sent using BlackBerry. from Orange ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:07:53 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... I don't know how the inclusion of C&C came to be; perhaps she talked to them at a party (they were also West Coasters) or maybe the idea evolved in the studio during the recording and they accepted the offer. However it happened, I always thought it was a brilliant idea and I recollect hearing that bit and knowing right off that it was them. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Used Cars" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Does anybody (Hi Bob) know the history behind this > (major, hmm) contribution? > > Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:16:49 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... -- Jill Haas wrote They were saying "Flip city--Ooby Shooby" (among other things, I think...)on "Twisted" if I remember correctly. I'm sure Bob has probably answered your question, but I haven't made it through my e-mail yet... Jill Thanks for all the replies. I will now feel better watching Up in Smoke after this Joni connection. In 79 i had a summer job waiting in a restaurant. One day a patron was Hendricks (the black member of the trio?) and he was floored that a young parisian waiter knew who he was and also the title of his hit record. More personal trivia: During this job i also met a Berkeley film professor at whose place Mingus had stayed for some time. He liked Joni too so we became friends up to this day. He's 89 so i will call him up now... Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:54:02 -0400 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... From http://www.superseventies.com/spmitchelljoni.html A cover of "Twisted" by the scat-jazz vocal group Lambert, Hendricks and Ross closes the album-- with stoner comics Cheech and Chong singing backup. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laurent Olszer Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:21 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: The Joni Album for when you're feeling naughty... > http://tinyurl.com/ol9f8g Looking at the ebay ad i noticed that Cheech & Chong are credited on "Court & Spank" (love this title). A Joni record is the last place i would expect to see this comic duo. Does anybody (Hi Bob) know the history behind this (major, hmm) contribution? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:28:21 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: For the Roses - Limited?? Does anyone know why some of the FTR CDs are advertised on eBay as limited?? Just curious. Cassy Actions speak for themselves - echoing into eternity ~ me ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: NJC No health insurance Well I finally (and unfortunately) got my hospital bill today. $4,000 and some change for all they did! Luckily in this case, I make so little that I qualify in not paying the bill as long as I provide income verification. I make well under their guidelines. Thanks for all the info. - -Mon - --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Cassy wrote: From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" <<< I hit my head, a couple of pricey ones including a cat scan. Now what can a person with no health insurance do besides pay the hospital back the thousands of dollars (a friend told me a cat scan at the place I went is 5,000) for the rest of my life? The National average for a CT Scan of the head without using "contrast" (dye) is around $500, Monika, give or take a few dollars. If they used contrast it's closer to $780.00 Now for the interesting part. **No Contrast... Average Outpatient Charge $428.16 Average Medicare Payment $193.47 Average Medicaid Payment $116.80 Average Insurance Payment $370.69 **With Contrast... Average Outpatient Charge $775.35 Average Medicare Payment $279.93 Average Medicaid Payment $168.99 Average Insurance Payment $603.90 I have had some experience with medical payments in the U.S. - more than I'd like - and often the provider writes off what the insurance won't cover (reasonable and customary charges are paid). The individual without insurance pays the whole outpatient charge regardless of what an insurance carrier considers reasonable and customary. Too bad they don't just let the individual pay what they would get from a carrier since it's the individuals who more than likely need the financial break. ** Information from the Spectrum Health . org website Prices vary wildly from city to city. Prices are based on overhead of the facility including salaries of the health care professionals but if you phone the hospital billing department they can give you a rough idea of what your bill will total. Be sure to ask if they offer discounts for payment in full because If you do not have insurance you may qualify for a 15% - $40% discount if the discounted balance of the procedure cost is paid in full within 60 days of the procedure. Most facilities accept cash, cashiers checks, and Visa, MasterCard, and American Express credit cards. Depending on your financial status and specific situation, a greater discount or charity may apply. In addition there may be other alternatives to working out payment and/or procedure cost reimbursement. Be sure to at least talk to someone to try to reduce the billed amount. Based on your financial situation and living expenses you may qualify retroactively for Medicaid assistance from your state. I hope this is helpful. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:55:34 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Recording audio at Woodstock, njc Marianne said in part, >I heard today on the radio of the many challenges with recording the music at this very large out door festival with the sound equipment and all of the variables. (in 1969)> That's one of the Woodstock myths. Columbia Records has sold many, many records that were recorded at the various Newport Festivals well before the Woodstock festival. The jazz world is full of amazing recordings, done live. (Either from a stage, or recorded live in a studio.) Not getting good audio was one of the many failings of the festival because the promotion team didn't have a track record with big, live shows. Jim ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #246 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------