From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #222 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, July 25 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 222 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: How much would you pay to see Joni? [PassScribe@aol.com] Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Van Morrison [Bryan ] Judy Collins - njc [Gerald Notaro ] Paste: The 50 albums that changed music [scam1@freeway.net] Re: Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Van Morrison [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Judy Collins - njc [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Judy Collins - njc ["Richard Flynn" ] all abba njc [Robert Procyk ] Re: How much would you pay to see Joni? [Lori Fye ] a question for my canadian brethren and sistren (njc) [David Eoll ] New Book w/ JONI Chapter (The Rock Cries Out) [simon@icu.com] Re: JoniFest [Michael Paz ] Re: njc, Doctor My Ears, Abba-free list [Catherine McKay ] Re: njc, Doctor My Ears, Abba-free list [Lori Fye ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:30:21 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: How much would you pay to see Joni? > On Thu, 7/23/09, Patti Parlette wrote: > > > How much would you pay to see Joni? > I just paid $93. to see Winwood & Clapton at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and $80 to see Todd in Stamford, Ct. (upcoming-in Sept.) I try not to pay more than $100 to see ANYBODY. Unless the show has more than one major act, my limit would be $125... period! Even for Joni. Kenny B ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377105x1201454426/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:15:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Subject: Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Van Morrison Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Van Morrison RF wrote: > Who does he think he is? > Even for the generally overpriced has-been circuit, that's too much to pay. Dylan was just here with Mellencamp and Willie Nelson -- tickets started at around $65 I think (in a medium size venue where all the seats are pretty close to the stage). Definitely recession pricing. I rememember paying more than that for mid-price seats 11 years ago to see Dylan-Mitchell-Morrison. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:35:35 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Judy Collins - njc Will be on Letterman tonight. - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: scam1@freeway.net Subject: Paste: The 50 albums that changed music 14 Joni Mitchell Blue (1971) Though Carole King's Tapestry was the biggest-selling album of the era, it is Joni Mitchell's Blue that remains the most influential of all the early Seventies outings by confessional singer-songwriters. Joni laid bare her heart in a series of intimate songs about love, betrayal and emotional insecurity. It could have been hell (think James Taylor) but for the penetrating brilliance of the songwriting. Raw, spare and sophisticated, it remains the template for a certain kind of baroque female angst. Without this ... no Tori Amos or Fiona Apple - and Elvis Costello and Prince have cited her as a prime influence. Suze n.p. Wilco, 'Bull Black Nova' (The Album) p.s., interesting information on the MOA album cover. Thanks to all who posted! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:44:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Van Morrison That same tour hits our area Wednesday night. I won't be able to make it but I would much rather see Mellencamp when he has the billing all to himself as I'm sure he has to truncate his show given the other two costars. Bob NP: Clarence Carter, "Slip Away" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I've always found it odd that there is no middle ground with ABBA for most people. You either love them and belong to some ABBA underworld, or you despise them and love to rant about how awful they are. Me, well, I have a couple compilations, and I can't say I ever really play them, but I have some sentimental memories of ABBA, because my parents owned two "current" 8-track tapes, and whenever we'd go on vacation and drive 12 or 13 hours a day, our musical choices were ABBA's Voulez Vous or the Eagle's Greatest Hits Volume One, or something really horrible like Engelbert Humperdink or Zamphir or whatever. So whenever I hear ABBA, it brings back memories. I don't love them, but I don't hate them. I lump them into the same category with, say, I don't know... America, or another band where I'll buy a Best of, but wouldn't ever try and get the whole back catalogue. And I would never make fun of the ABBA people, because lord knows I've had my own odd musical obsessions at different times of my life that I am sure are stranger than Abba (anyone remember the 80s band Berlin, fronted by Terri Nunn? Well, as a young teenager, I thought their albums Pleasure Victim and Love Life were the White Album and Exile on Main Street, so who am I to say anything about ABBA). TGIF, Rob p.s. and give Jimmy Stewart a couple drinks, and ALL you hear about are his new towels - it's sort of like "Harry's House", Florida style.... sad, really "Ed, I said 'GET DOWN OFF OF THERE!' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:42:40 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: How much would you pay to see Joni? > How much would you pay to see Joni? Depends on the venue, I think -- and does the price include travel costs? 'Cause I've flown from San Antonio to New Orleans to see her, and from San Antonio to NYC and then rented a car to drive to Yasgur's Farm to see her ... does the cost of "getting there" count? : ) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:15:52 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: a question for my canadian brethren and sistren (njc) A conservative cousin of mine (most of my extended family are Republicans) recently quipped, "if you are unsure about how poor a choice universal healthcare is ask a Canadian". Okay. So... I'm asking. I'm asking here specifically because I know a lot of folks on this list are north of the border. Although my mind is already pretty much made up on the issue, I am NOT asking rhetorically. Canadian healthcare vs US healthcare, compare and contrast. Honest opinions are what I'm looking for. Bonus points if you've had experience with both systems. If you have experience with any non-Canadian universal health care systems (and that includes Medicare and the VA), feel free to offer opinions on those. I'm sure my cousin was just picking on Canada because of the proximity. (she's from Michigan) Peace, David PS Sorry if this has been covered here in the past. I did search my saved digests and didn't see any discussions specifically comparing Canadian vs US healthcare. But, maybe I just missed them. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:13:22 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: JoniFest Unfortunately our esteemed Les Irvin has had to withdraw from SoCal JoniFest, thus leaving one vacancy. He was to have been sharing a double room with Bob Muller. If there is someone who would like to take that spot please email me offlist. The Creekstone Inn, Idyllwild, CA Sept 24-27 4 nights $450 including food and drinks. thanks, Dave Blackburn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:37:39 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: New Book w/ JONI Chapter (The Rock Cries Out) i recently came across an interesting book. author Steve Stockman offers 'Spiritual Insights' on the music of Radiohead, Joni Mitchell, Lauren Hill, Bruce Springsteen and more. perhaps some of the folk will find it worth their time. The Rock Cries Out: Discovering Eternal Truth In Unlikely Music by Steve Stockman here's a description from amazon.com PRODUCT DESCRIPTION Steve Stockman essays the music of 13 artists who have never made any Christian profession but whose work is undergirded with issues, questions and solutions that seem to be very much biblical. From The Beatles to Springsteen, Marley to Radiohead, there is biting spiritual insight and challenge between the lines. Could God be speaking in these unlikely places? Are we listening? you can download the Joni chapter "We've Got To Get Ourselves Back To The Garden" via YouSendIt at the following URL: andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simon http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm "When humans take the strength of their belief and ease it across the thin line to absolute knowledge, then arrogance can lead to all kinds of things being done in the name of God." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:45:09 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JoniFest :( On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: Unfortunately our esteemed Les Irvin has had to withdraw from SoCal JoniFest, thus leaving one vacancy. He was to have been sharing a double room with Bob Muller. If there is someone who would like to take that spot please email me offlist. The Creekstone Inn, Idyllwild, CA Sept 24-27 4 nights $450 including food and drinks. thanks, Dave Blackburn Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Doctor My Ears, Abba-free list - --- On Thu, 7/23/09, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Chatty Cathy wrote: > > > Very conservative. Too hooked on what colour towels to > get for their > > bathrooms or wanting to talk about their weekend at > Casino Fillintheblanks. > > Stuff I just don't get and likely never will. My > conclusion is: never trust an > > ABBA fan (except for Hell, of course, and maybe Jimmy > Stewart, but I'm not > > so sure about him.) > > > > I *had* to respond to this. ME? CONSERVATIVE? You > know that Hell and I > are anything but! You know Catherine, that Hell and I > are quite a bit younger > than you, so while you were still singing along with Helen > Reddy, we were > dancing to the tunes of ABBA. LOL, and the towels hanging > in my bathroom are > ......whatever's clean :) > > Jimmy > Naaaa, Jimmy dearest. I wasn't implying that you and Hell are conservative! I was just saying you're the exception as ABBA fans to the usual ones I've met. I know HELL is quite a bit younger than me, but you're only a teensy bit younger, so don't push it, baby! Give me credit for having better taste than Helen Reddy. This is the Joni-freakin'-Mitchell list, after all. I was stuck in a car once (relax! - I wasn't driving) with my boss and her favourite minion. Their topics of discussion were: 1.) their love of ABBA 2.) their commitment to conservative government 3.) how much fun it is to go to the Casino on the weekend and spend money! 4.) colour-coordinated bathroom items by a designer I had never heard of (I checked out his stuff later and it seems like everything he does is in some shade of beige - gag me!) I felt so trapped. I'm sure you can empathize. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:08:51 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: New Book w/ JONI Chapter (The Rock Cries Out) Thanks Simon. Best Paz On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:37 PM, simon@icu.com wrote: i recently came across an interesting book. author Steve Stockman offers 'Spiritual Insights' on the music of Radiohead, Joni Mitchell, Lauren Hill, Bruce Springsteen and more. perhaps some of the folk will find it worth their time. The Rock Cries Out: Discovering Eternal Truth In Unlikely Music by Steve Stockman here's a description from amazon.com PRODUCT DESCRIPTION Steve Stockman essays the music of 13 artists who have never made any Christian profession but whose work is undergirded with issues, questions and solutions that seem to be very much biblical. From The Beatles to Springsteen, Marley to Radiohead, there is biting spiritual insight and challenge between the lines. Could God be speaking in these unlikely places? Are we listening? you can download the Joni chapter "We've Got To Get Ourselves Back To The Garden" via YouSendIt at the following URL: andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simon http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm "When humans take the strength of their belief and ease it across the thin line to absolute knowledge, then arrogance can lead to all kinds of things being done in the name of God." Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:39:16 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: ANother New Book w/ JONI Chapter (Whispering Pines) there's ANother new book with an interesting chapter devoted to Joni Mitchell Whispering Pines: The Northern Roots Of American Music . . . From Hank Snow To The Band by Jason Schneider here's a description from amazon.com PRODUCT DESCRIPTION Providing the first comprehensive history of Canadas songwriting legacy, this guide traces a distinctly Canadian musical identity from the 1930s to the end of the 1970s. The discussion shows how Canadian musicians have always struggled to create work that reflects their own environment while simultaneously connecting with mass audiences in other countries, particularly the United States. While nearly all songwriters who successfully crossed this divide did so by immersing themselves in the American and British forms of blues, folk, country, and rock 'n' roll, this guide reveals that Canadian sensibilities were never far beneath the surface. Canadian innovators featured include The Band, Ian & Sylvia, Hank Snow, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen, and superstars Neil Young and JONI MITCHELL. Lively anecdotes and interviews round out the history, but the emphasis is always on the essential musichow and where it originated and its impact on the artists' subsequent work and the wider musical world. you can download the Joni chapter "Urge For Going" via YouSendIt at the following URL: andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simon http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/miscrecordings.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/songsaboutjoni.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_songs.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/music/inspiredbyjoni_albums.cfm "When humans take the strength of their belief and ease it across the thin line to absolute knowledge, then arrogance can lead to all kinds of things being done in the name of God." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:04:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Re: njc I've lost it OMG! I was subscribed to the Joni Mitchell list, but something happened and now I'm on the ABBA list LOL! I will never watch that movie, on principle alone. btw, does anyone remember John McCain defending ABBA, saying "it's good music, really!" lots of love, Anne On Jul 22, 2009, anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Mark Scott > Like Vince, I was never an ABBA fan and I thought this > movie would be > ultra stupid. But it's fun. I really did enjoy > it. And Meryl really > nails 'The Winner Takes It All' as a torcher. > For the same reasons you've said, I was never interested in going to the stage play. But when I saw the trailers for the movie, I had to go. There is just something about Greece, I think. It's one of my dreams to go there one day and cruise to various islands where it seems that the sun always shines and the sky and water are always blue. The plot is thin - extremely thin! - and most of the actors can't sing, but I loved Meryl Streep and Christine Baranski. I suppose it's complicated trying to take a bunch of songs that aren't particularly related and then weave a story around them. We saw it at the cinema and actually ended up buying the DVD when it came out - that's how much we liked it (my daughter and I, that is. Matthew doesn't get it.) So, I guess you CAN teach an old dog new tricks and never say never and other expressions of that kind. I like when that happens. Despite all, I still don't care for ABBA. Go figure. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:55:53 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: njc, Doctor My Ears, Abba-free list > Casino Fillintheblanks Bwa-ha-ha-ha!! Very, very funny, particularly to this grrl who is working for an Indian tribe who is trying to build a casino ... it doesn't have a name yet ... perhaps I'll suggest that one, Catherine! : D Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #222 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------