From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #188 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, June 23 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 188 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: paved paradise redux - set list + john kelly's visual art [Michael Pa] NJC - YouTube ["Cassy" ] NJC, a rare appearance by Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam in LA [Patti Parlette <] Joni, but no Phony [Gerald Notaro ] totally NJC - Ohio [Vince ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Gerald Notaro ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Michael Paz ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Lori Fye ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Catherine McKay ] kodachrome bye-bye - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Lori Fye ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Lori Fye ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Gerald Notaro ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [FMYFL@aol.com] your momma [Willie Yanock ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Lori Fye ] Re: your momma (NJC) [Lori Fye ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Lori Fye ] Re: your momma (NJC) [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Vince ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Michael Paz ] Re: totally NJC - Ohio [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:08:46 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: paved paradise redux - set list + john kelly's visual art Thanks Patrick. I was wondering how many of my programs he was using on the VG-8. I did a ton of them for him for the last show. I had to send him some info and now he is editing his own programs which I know he did for Sex Kills. Cool. Thanks for the info. Paz On Jun 21, 2009, at 7:55 PM, patrick leader wrote: you know, after i'd filed the review i realized i hadn't talked about the instruments at all. i think john played four guitars, one electric. i know he played electric on 'sex kills', very aggressively. it was cool. his acoustic playing seemed very good to me as well. he also played dulcimer for 'a case of you'. the bassist played bass guitar as well as standing bass, both plucked and bowed. zecca played his keyboard and a grand piano (though not enough) as well as percussion (shakers) on a couple of songs. one nice moment was in "conversation. all the musicians were together for the first verse, then john was alone on guitar (with, i think, a different strumming pattern) for the two discarded verses. then the other two musicians came back in when john returned to the published lyrics. patrick np - george michael and elton john, don't let the sun go down on me - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Michael Paz Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:44 PM To: patrick leader Cc: joni Subject: Re: paved paradise redux - set list + john kelly's visual art How much did he use the VG-8? Did he play acoustic at all? Paz On Jun 21, 2009, at 3:24 PM, patrick leader wrote: hey folks - i saw john kelly's new show on friday; i've sent my review to les and i'm Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:36:11 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: NJC - YouTube The JMDL has been a bit quiet lately so I've been cruising around YouTube for a little entertainment. I don't do it often but every now and then something gets me started and I can't stop. One day at peak rush-hour a group from T-Mobile filmed an "impromptu" dance for a commercial at Liverpool Street Station. 400 people breaking out in dance and it was very successful; more successful than even they'd expected. T-Mobile Dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ3d3KigPQM&feature=related The Making of T-Mobile Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVFNM8f9WnI&feature=channel So from there I found a group called Improv Everywhere who do prank-type vignettes in real world settings. Here is one from New York City, the no-pants subway ride: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9La40WwO-lU&NR=1 What ever did we do for entertainment before the internet? Warmly, Cassy NP: Fleet Foxes - Quiet Houses Just in Case you're not tired of YouTube links, here's another: Did you know?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9Wu2kWwSY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:55:57 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: NJC, a rare appearance by Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam in LA Dear Joniamigos: Here is an announcement that might interest some of you living in or near the City of the Fallen Angels (Hi Kakki! Hi Lesli! Hi Joni!) who are Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam, Cameron Crowe, and/or "Harold and Maude" fans. ("Harold and Maude"???!!! Man, it's been many dim years since I saw those cinematic lovers sway!) Voila: "On the evening of June 25th Yusuf will be attending a special night being held in tribute to Hal Ashby. Said Yusuf: "The impact of my musical legacy was due in part to the fact that Hal Ashby embraced my albums and used them as a soundtrack for his amazing film 'Harold & Maude'. People are as tied to that film as they are to my music and this event is an opportunity for me to honour the memory of the man." Hal was the director behind Harold and Maude, the 1971 romantic comedy featuring a soundtrack of Cat Stevens songs. The night takes place at the Samuel Goldwyn Theater and will be hosted by writer and director Cameron Crowe." I should get on this flight tonight! xo, pp, wearing a green armband "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage_062009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:37:35 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Joni, but no Phony [image: New York Post] JONI, BUT NOT PHONY By ELISABETH VINCENTELLI *June 22, 2009* -- FOR the past decade or so, Joni Mitchell tunes have graced Feinstein's and the Oak Room. When uptown cabaret canaries stray from the Great American Songbook, they often turn to the loon from Saskatoon: She's a little folk, a little soft-rock, a little jazz -- classy! Even better, she's wordy and a tad weird. But while other singers do the songs, John Kelly does the whole package. Sprung out of the 1980s East Village alt-scene, Kelly has been paying tribute to Mitchell, off and on, for 25 years now. Typically, he first tried out his characterization at a now-defunct drag-a-thon -- which gets a sly tip of the hat when Kelly sings "By the time we got to Wigstock" in "Woodstock." Yet while Kelly wears a blond wig and a pair of Mitchellesque floor-length dresses, this reprise of his 1996 show "Paved Paradise" isn't a camp trip but rather a subtle, performance-art take on Joni Mitchell as icon. In a hall-of-mirrors way, Kelly, who accompanies himself on guitar and dulcimer, is backed by two of the singer's own idols, Vincent van Gogh (Paul Ossola) on bass and Georgia O'Keeffe (Zecca Esquibel) on keyboards. The set list hops through Mitchell's career in rough chronological order, reaching wide from "The Fishbowl," a poem the songwriter wrote in 10th grade, up to the title track from Mitchell's 2007 album, "Shine." Kelly emulates his model's vocal swoops in their original key, but he doesn't try to disguise his decidedly masculine lower register. This ambiguity permeates the entire show and is driven even further by a stunning costume change during "Down to You." It ranks as one of the most honest, tender and inherently theatrical moments of the year. This distance is both enhanced and undermined by Kelly's stylized emulation of Mitchell's expressions -- part coquettish, part bashful. Even when tuning a recalcitrant guitar, he remained in character and yet somehow *other*. "Paved Paradise" is a little magical John-Joni island, outside of the here and now. Sure, there are times when Kelly feels a little tentative. But his emotional connection to the material never falters. It's something that Mitchell -- who once said she'd "sacrifice the perfect time and the perfect pitch to color the words" -- would certainly embrace. *elisabeth.vincentelli @nypost.com* *PAVED PARADISE REDUX: THE ART OF JONI MITCHELL * *Abrons Arts Center, 466 Grand St.; 212-598-0400. Through Sunday.* Home - ------------------------------ NEW YORK POST is a registered trademark of NYP Holdings, Inc. NYPOST.COM, NYPOSTONLINE.COM, and NEWYORKPOST.COM are trademarks of NYP Holdings, Inc. Copyright 2009 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved. - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:57:48 -0400 From: Vince Subject: totally NJC - Ohio in strange never-expected news, I am now serving a congregation (ok, that's what I do, that's expected) in: the state of Ohio. Very tough for a Michigander like me to live in the buckeye state. But I really like the people of this congregation and I am adjusting to life somewhere outside of Lima, a town called Spencerville, kind of rural-suburban totally non diverse. Weather wise, so far Ohio has been a very hot state. Jodi once sent me a Joni print, I long ago had it framed and it hung in my living room in Michigan; it is now going in the family room I think. Or perhaps one of the guest bedrooms. Since I have two guest bedrooms, you are all invited if you are ever out near Lima. Do we have any other JMDL-ers who live in Ohio? Vince now working in Ohio but still loving Michigan my Michigan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:42:19 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio Vince. I have close relatives who live in Sheffield Lake. I believe that is near Lima. Jerry On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Vince wrote: > in strange never-expected news, I am now serving a congregation (ok, that's > what I do, that's expected) in: the state of Ohio. > > Very tough for a Michigander like me to live in the buckeye state. > > But I really like the people of this congregation and I am adjusting to > life > somewhere outside of Lima, a town called Spencerville, kind of > rural-suburban totally non diverse. > > Weather wise, so far Ohio has been a very hot state. Jodi once sent me a > Joni print, I long ago had it framed and it hung in my living room in > Michigan; it is now going in the family room I think. Or perhaps one of > the > guest bedrooms. > > Since I have two guest bedrooms, you are all invited if you are ever out > near Lima. > > Do we have any other JMDL-ers who live in Ohio? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:57:27 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio WoW Vince. Hope you are having fun. My mom was from Roundhead which is pretty close to Lima. I spent alot of time there and always had fun summers at Russells Point. They had the scariest wooden coaster in life. Have fun Paz On Jun 22, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Vince wrote: in strange never-expected news, I am now serving a congregation (ok, that's what I do, that's expected) in: the state of Ohio. Very tough for a Michigander like me to live in the buckeye state. But I really like the people of this congregation and I am adjusting to life somewhere outside of Lima, a town called Spencerville, kind of rural-suburban totally non diverse. Weather wise, so far Ohio has been a very hot state. Jodi once sent me a Joni print, I long ago had it framed and it hung in my living room in Michigan; it is now going in the family room I think. Or perhaps one of the guest bedrooms. Since I have two guest bedrooms, you are all invited if you are ever out near Lima. Do we have any other JMDL-ers who live in Ohio? Vince now working in Ohio but still loving Michigan my Michigan Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:15:28 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio > But I really like the people of this congregation and I am adjusting to life > somewhere outside of Lima I'm very sorry to hear this, Vince. Of all the places in Ohio I would NOT want to visit (again), for many reasons Lima is at the top of that list. The citizens there don't even pronounce Lima correctly ... it ought to be "LEE-ma" (like Peru), but instead they call it "LIE-ma" (like ... what? Lime with an "a" at the end? Lima beans, which also should be "LEE-ma" beans?). Of course they don't pronounce Medina properly, either ... and there's a whole list of other names about which they're clueless too. Of course this is a place where they also call Italians "EYE-talians"... sheesh. Glad you like the congregation. Enjoy the lack of diversity, if you can. Lori, just having a little fun bashing the state in which I was raised (and left as soon as possible) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio Hey there Vince. I'm unfortunately in Ohio though I am trying to change that. I have never liked it here. I live in Strongsville which is about 20 miles or so south of Cleveland. I would recommend for you to check out the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame though. There is some interesting memorabilia there if you have the time to check it out on a weekend. As for the weather, the summers can get hot. We have actually been cooler than normal for a summer here. I think that is changing a little bit as we speak. Winters are hard as hell though here. Well, they can be. Cold and snowy. Sometimes mild. Ohio weather is very moody. You can have a week filled with 4 different seasons and that would be considered normal here. Good luck in Ohio. - -Mon - --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Vince wrote: in strange never-expected news, I am now serving a congregation (ok, that's what I do, that's expected) in: the state of Ohio. Very tough for a Michigander like me to live in the buckeye state. But I really like the people of this congregation and I am adjusting to life somewhere outside of Lima, a town called Spencerville, kind of rural-suburban totally non diverse. Weather wise, so far Ohio has been a very hot state. Jodi once sent me a Joni print, I long ago had it framed and it hung in my living room in Michigan; it is now going in the family room I think. Or perhaps one of the guest bedrooms. Since I have two guest bedrooms, you are all invited if you are ever out near Lima. Do we have any other JMDL-ers who live in Ohio? Vince now working in Ohio but still loving Michigan my Michigan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio Shouldn't it be O-HEE-oh? There's a place in Ontario called Delhi, and they pronounce it "DELL-high." I think of LEEma, Peru, but LIEmuh beans. If it's a place, I'd call it LEEma. So, is MeDEEnuh, MeDINah, or what? Vince, don't listen to Lori. ;-) Enjoy your new place. Maybe it has changed since Lori was there - otherwise, maybe you'll be the one to change it. Maybe that's why you were sent there. - --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Lori Fye wrote: I'm very sorry to hear this, Vince. Of all the places in Ohio I would NOT want to visit (again), for many reasons Lima is at the top of that list. The citizens there don't even pronounce Lima correctly ... it ought to be "LEE-ma" (like Peru), but instead they call it "LIE-ma" (like ... what? Lime with an "a" at the end? Lima beans, which also should be "LEE-ma" beans?). Of course they don't pronounce Medina properly, either ... and there's a whole list of other names about which they're clueless too. Of course this is a place where they also call Italians "EYE-talians"... sheesh. Glad you like the congregation. Enjoy the lack of diversity, if you can. Lori, just having a little fun bashing the state in which I was raised (and left as soon as possible) __________________________________________________________________ Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address now! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:15:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: kodachrome bye-bye - njc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhdf9_IO4w http://www.thestar.com/business/article/654612 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:22:53 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio > Shouldn't it be O-HEE-oh? Probably, although most Ohioans call it oh-HIGH-ah (similar to what they call Missouri and Cincinnati: Missourah and Cincinnatah). > So, is MeDEEnuh, MeDINah, or what? It should be mah-DEE-nuh ("When the moon goes down on Medina Lake (TX), I'll be goin' down on you"), but in Ohio it's called mah-DIE-nah. > Vince, don't listen to Lori. ;-) You're right, Catherine: Vince should not listen to me. I'm crabby today. > Maybe it has changed since Lori was there Not likely. I go back every now and again (family still lives there, happy as clams in their all-white towns), and nothing much ever changes. Frequent usage of the "n"-word there, too. Lori Santa Rosa, CA (thank god) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:27:05 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio > I'm unfortunately in Ohio though I am trying to change that. See?? I have a friend from high school who now lives in San Francisco. Her Facebook profile info says: "recovering Ohioan". (Me too.) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:40:01 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio I have always found Columbus, OH to be a cool town. Jerry On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Lori Fye wrote: > > I'm unfortunately in Ohio though I am trying to change that. > > See?? > > I have a friend from high school who now lives in San Francisco. Her > Facebook profile info says: "recovering Ohioan". > > (Me too.) > > Lori > Santa Rosa, CA > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:46:45 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio LOL Lori, I've only visited Ohio once, and as the *men on film* said on "Living Color"......."HATED IT". sad day when even the NJC talks about Ohio. guess that's why we're all on Facebook. Jimmy In a message dated 6/22/2009 6:30:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lori.fye@gmail.com writes: > See?? > > I have a friend from high school who now lives in San Francisco. Her > Facebook profile info says: "recovering Ohioan". > > (Me too.) > ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823273x1201398689/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Yanock Subject: your momma Sarcasm, Distortion, Anger, Pain, where is Forgiveness, Joy, or even Love? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:07:48 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio > I have always found Columbus, OH to be a cool town. That's due to the presence of Ohio State University. Otherwise, the only other cool town in Ohio MIGHT be Kent (home of Kent State University). Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:08:40 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: your momma (NJC) > Sarcasm, Distortion, Anger, Pain, where is Forgiveness, Joy, or even Love? Where are the meds? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:29:57 -0700 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio > I also like Lakewood, OH which borders Cleveland. The mentality > in that town is very different though than Ohio in general. It is more > open and dare I say it, more artsy (also Tremont, OH for that matter) > It is a good city for when you want to have a fun, exciting time. It is > the city that never sleeps (another one anyhow). If you want a quiet > time, stay clear of Lakewood though. Seems to me I spent some time in Lakewood with my brother Billy back in '93 or so. Enjoyed it. So I'm with you on Lakewood! : ) Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:29:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: your momma (NJC) Haha, tis a joke! All in good fun, really. - -Mon - --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Lori Fye wrote: From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: your momma (NJC) To: "Joni List" Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:08 PM > Sarcasm, Distortion, Anger, Pain, where is Forgiveness, Joy, or even Love? Where are the meds? Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio I also like Lakewood, OH which borders Cleveland. The mentality in that town is very different though than Ohio in general. It is more open and dare I say it, more artsy (also Tremont, OH for that matter) It is a good city for when you want to have a fun, exciting time. It is the city that never sleeps (another one anyhow). If you want a quiet time, stay clear of Lakewood though. - -Mon - --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Lori Fye wrote: > I have always found Columbus, OH to be a cool town. That's due to the presence of Ohio State University. Otherwise, the only other cool town in Ohio MIGHT be Kent (home of Kent State University). Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:02:28 -0400 From: Vince Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio Cassie, next time you are in Spencerville, I live right near the school! And I already know Conant road! And I know where Elida is (not that I have tried getting there on my own yet... but I can get from Spencerville to Lima and back without a map now! I am very blessed that Lima has a Meijers - old timers here remember that I lived a while (many years) in Greenville Michigan which is home to store #1 of the Meijers chain - Fred Meijer spoke out in favor of the nuclear freeze back in the day - I love shopping at Meijers so it feels like home a bit. Meijers also carries all my soy based food so I am ecstatic I can stay on my rather rigid diet. I am in the upscale area of Spencerville. It is a town of 2,400 but still has its different neighborhoods. I am in the wealthy suburban section. Wow... the pressure is on me to maintain the area life style! I suppose I cannot play my Eminem too loudly... Paz, we keep having these near-miss things, back to you being from Detroit where I lived for a while. Interesting! Monika, I understand that Cleveland has its ups and downs. I was kind of hoping that if I was to be in Ohio, it might be there. But that was not to be. By the way, I thought that the JMDL archives were not find-able by google or any search engines -- yet when I google my name a few archives come up. I thought our decision was to keep them all outside of the reach of google because especially in the early years (and maybe up to 2005) we all assumed that we were not searchable and people (including myself) shared some quite intimate stuff in the jmdl that was for this community of friends, not for the world. We all know better now... but... is it still the case that the jmdl is not searchable by google, etc? I sure hope so. Getting this pastor gig had some interesting moments because of some stuff on the internet. Lot of explaining on things that were out there. Oh well. I still feel this is such a unique community. The jmdl is very special. I am glad to have journeyed through the last decade plus with you all, and those we have lost, and those who dropped away through the years. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:48:48 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio And I love Chicago! Hope you do well there and it's not too scary. Some of the posts on this have had me in hysterics. Paz On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Vince wrote: . Paz, we keep having these near-miss things, back to you being from Detroit where I lived for a while. Interesting! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:10:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: totally NJC - Ohio Had some good friends that moved to Akron when Michelin bought out B.F. Goodrich. We went to visit. Akron/Canton/Clevelend was nasty. I'm sure there are some good parts in Ohio, I just haven't seen them yet. Bob NP: Ani, "Trickle Down" ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #188 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------