From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #125 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, April 21 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 125 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Wonderful new book [Dave Blackburn ] RE: Wonderful new book NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Wonderful new book NJC [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Wonderful new book [Moni Kellermann ] Re: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit [Jeannie ] NJC: Something bout the buildings in Chelsea.. [lauriefuhr@yahoo.ca] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:02:51 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: RE: Wonderful new book The Lloyd Whitesell book is very thorough in its examination of the lyrics and music and endeavors to be more legit by not being too fan- struck, although Whitesell does own up to being a fan in the preface. But it's pretty academic music analysis, as Bob points out, and if you don't play piano or guitar and know the lingo of classical music analysis It could be a slog. The lyric analysis is great too, in a dept. of English Lit kind of way; frankly our jmdl has provided some superb in-depth lyric analyses of its own without so much overlay of academic lingo. I should be receiving my copy of Michelle Mercer's book this week. I'm looking forward to that read, especially the focus on my favorite Joni period. Dave On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Subject: RE: Wonderful new book > > has anyone read ''the music of joni mitchell'' by lloyd whitesell? > i haven't yet but it looks very interesting... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:23:55 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Wonderful new book NJC As an English lit. academic type. I resemble that remark > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave > Blackburn > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:03 AM > To: jmdl; anon anon > Subject: RE: Wonderful new book > > The Lloyd Whitesell book is very thorough in its examination of the > lyrics and music and endeavors to be more legit by not being too fan- > struck, although Whitesell does own up to being a fan in the preface. > But it's pretty academic music analysis, as Bob points out, and if > you don't play piano or guitar and know the lingo of classical music > analysis It could be a slog. The lyric analysis is great too, in a > dept. of English Lit kind of way; frankly our jmdl has provided some > superb in-depth lyric analyses of its own without so much overlay of > academic lingo. > > I should be receiving my copy of Michelle Mercer's book this week. > I'm looking forward to that read, especially the focus on my favorite > Joni period. > > > Dave > > > > > On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > > Subject: RE: Wonderful new book > > > > has anyone read ''the music of joni mitchell'' by lloyd whitesell? > > i haven't yet but it looks very interesting... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:35:40 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Wonderful new book NJC Yes Richard, you show a remarkable resemblance. I too was one (English Lit type). Got permanently derailed by circumstance however and went into music, like that other gal. On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Richard Flynn wrote: > As an English lit. academic type. I resemble that remark > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf >> Of Dave >> Blackburn >> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:03 AM >> To: jmdl; anon anon >> Subject: RE: Wonderful new book >> >> The Lloyd Whitesell book is very thorough in its examination of the >> lyrics and music and endeavors to be more legit by not being too fan- >> struck, although Whitesell does own up to being a fan in the preface. >> But it's pretty academic music analysis, as Bob points out, and if >> you don't play piano or guitar and know the lingo of classical music >> analysis It could be a slog. The lyric analysis is great too, in a >> dept. of English Lit kind of way; frankly our jmdl has provided some >> superb in-depth lyric analyses of its own without so much overlay of >> academic lingo. >> >> I should be receiving my copy of Michelle Mercer's book this week. >> I'm looking forward to that read, especially the focus on my favorite >> Joni period. >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: >> >>> Subject: RE: Wonderful new book >>> >>> has anyone read ''the music of joni mitchell'' by lloyd whitesell? >>> i haven't yet but it looks very interesting... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:04:21 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Wonderful new book http://www.wicn.org/audio/inquiry-lloyd-whitesell-joni-mitchell Lloyd Whitesell - The Music of Joni Mitchell Length: 31:42 minutes (13.73 MB) On Inquiry tonight, we welcome LLOYD WHITESELL, Associate Professor of Music History at McGill University. Professor Whitesell has written a complete and scholarly evaluation of the poems and music of Joni Mitchell and talks tonight about her evolution as a songwriter. Whitesell's book is titled THE MUSIC OF JONI MITCHELL. direct mp3 download: http://www.wicn.org/audio/download/8337/Inquiry-Lloyd+Whitesell+POD.mp3 - ----------------------------- http://books.google.com/books?id=xSmJbcWcYA0C Take a look at the contents of this book! I like the Google Maps at the bottom of the page where you can click on a placemark and it will tell you the referring part of the book (even though they get Matala totally wrong - it's in Crete (Greece) and not Thailand). Their official website has the lyrics of Carey printed on this page: http://www.visitmatala.com/aboutmatala.php?lang=en Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit Well, that big dumb blond With her wheel in the gorge And Turtle, that friend of theirs With his checks all forged And his cheeks in a chunk With his cheese in the cash They're all gonna be there At that million dollar bash Ooh, baby, ooh-ee Ooh, baby, ooh-ee It's that million dollar bash Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it roll? Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it down easy to save his charlatan soul? But now I've had enough, my box is clean Now you just keep that juice to yourself And pass that joint the other way Your odd~s and ends, odds and ends Lost time is not found again May Lady Luck of Vegas shine on you And on that holy ghost thingy your juice produces. May every seat get filled every night you play At that million dollar bash Yes, I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes (no, not the Charlie Browns) You'd know then what a DRAG it is To see you, Mr. Supernatural Shaman Jeannie PS: Will The Joint allow the joints to get lit up? Maybe Carlos Santana will have to pull a Britney Spears on the audience just in case the smell of pot goes reeking down the hall to the casino. ~Lordy, nothing but fear and loathing in Las Vegas for folks like me who like to wash dishes and windows. Even Joni washes dishes with GRACE and ELEGANCE and BEAUTY with Rowdy Yates and a lovely cat her beloved audience and it's all so natural and pure. Subject: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit To: "joni@smoe.org" Cc: "icnh@hotmail.com" Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 12:10 PM Sent from icnh@hotmail.com's mobile device from http://www.cnn.com. Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit Whenever you speak with Carlos Santana, you pretty much know what you're going to get: lots of talk about love and light. spiritual analogies, name-dropping of people like Marvin Gaye and Mother Teresa. It may take a moment to enter the humble headspace of the 61-year-old guitarist legend, but once you're there, you realize that this is a man who acts with his heart instead of his head. Somehow, he's managing to live out his 1960s ideals in 2009 -- and he wants fans to experience a piece of that with his new Las Vegas, Nevada, show, "Supernatural Santana: A Trip Through the Hits." The 72-show residency at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino launches May 27, with 36 concerts this year and 36 in 2010. As with all his events, a portion of the cost of each ticket will be donated to the Milagro Foundation, the charitable organization founded by Santana and his family to benefit children around the world. Santana talked to CNN about the Vegas show and his beliefs. The following is an edited version of that interview. CNN: Your Vegas show sounds like it's your greatest hits mixed with a little bit of Carlos Santana spirituality. Carlos Santana: They're inseparable at this point. We're very different than a lot of bands. A lot of bands concentrate on show business and entertainment. We focus on light and touching people's hearts. We really believe that by coming to Las Vegas, it gives us an opportunity to take ourselves and the people who come to listen to us into a place where people are free from thinking they're sinners or unworthy. There's something really wonderful about music when music makes men and women dance, laugh and cry at the same time, because they're receiving like a Holy Ghost thing. CNN: Ticket prices range from $79 up to $299 -- which is a lot of money for some people in this economy. Santana: I have no clue about that. I'm more with, "This finger goes onto this note and it makes juicy sounds, and I'm going to make people dance and laugh." It's not like I don't care or I'm ignorant. It's just that I'm not wired to have that insignificance on me other than what I'm going to get to give back to other people. And other than that, I trust that the people around me -- which is my sister and my brother-in-law -- will take care of all of those dimensions. We don't like to gouge people, but we do like to be realistic that you do need to pay the rent ... and stuff like that. But other than that, since I was a child, I really don't put that much focus or significance into it. CNN: You're well-loved by mainstream audiences, and the Latino audience has been really supportive, too. Do you think this is opening up the door to perhaps invite the Latino audience to Vegas? Santana: They're already there. They're washing dishes and folding sheets -- I'm serious. The Latin community is there. It's just that we don't see them. ... I don't belong to just Latinos just because I speak Spanish. We go to Ireland, and if we go to Pakistan, or Istanbul or Malaysia, we're part of the family. We just did a tour in South America, and I have never seen so many children come to our concerts in my life -- and I've been doing this since '67. CNN: You were born in Mexico, and President Obama will be heading there to talk about the war on drugs. [Secretary of State] Hillary Clinton recently made some remarks that United States drug consumption is partially to blame for this problem. Do you agree with that? Santana: Totally. I think that the solution to all of this stuff would be to legalize it, decriminalize it, reinvest all that money into teachers in schools. ... If we would teach in schools the incredible sensation of climax that it feels to be of service to other people -- like Mother Teresa, or Desmond Tutu or the Dalai Lama -- smoking pot, and drinking tequila, and watching porno or whatever people do, it pales in comparison when you actually wake up to be of service to people. To go back to the question -- I think we should legalize marijuana. I think Barack Obama should bring the brothers and sisters home -- the soldiers. If I was to see him, I would go, "Listen to Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' and John Coltrane, and bring the boys home from the war now, like we did with Vietnam." They're not going to come here. People in Vietnam did not come here to attack us after we left them alone. So let's get rid of that fear, that fantasy, that stuff. Let's get rid of the bogeyman, because the bogeyman is us looking in the mirror of each other. CNN: What about when people don't get it, Carlos? What if they're listening to you and thinking, "He sounds like one of those New Age Californians, and I really don't get what they're doing out there." Santana: Well, they don't get it because they're stuck in something that is not working. Like, for example, a lot of people are stuck with certain parts of the Bible, believing that God is vengeful and jealous. That's Godzilla! I'm not stuck with a God like that. I'm stuck with a God that's all love, all compassion, all light, and he only sees you with purity and innocence, like the brand-new eyes of a child that's just been born. ... A lot about Las Vegas is illusion. It's entertainment and show business. We don't know none of that. We only know to go into your heart and help you remember that it's there. I know a lot of rich millionaires who are not happy, and you're only happy when you're doing something. CNN: Are you happy? Santana: I'm very, very happy because I'm grateful. My priorities finally have been crystallized. I started washing dishes, and now I do this. And this is a lot of fun. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:38:35 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: author of new "Blue" book on Q, Tues morning Hi all, I haven't been able to dial up this morning to see if anyone's already announced this to the list, since my beau has been busy on the phone since before I got out of bed. So I apologize if, by the time this gets sent, it's old news onlist. On the CBC radio program Q, which is on from 10 to 11:30 a.m. on weekdays, they are interviewing the author of this new book on Joni's "Blue" period, tomorrow. Interested parties may listen to it online by going to cbc.ca and following links to get to the radio listings and then the program Q, etc. Over and out, Kate *** What's cookin' in the wild west? http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:35:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: NJC/CNN - Carlos Santana/a quick note to prior post Sorry, I forgot the NJC tag and to also add that I have been into Bob Dylan these past few days, getting off to his prose and poetry, thus most of my post is all Bob Dylan!! Jeannie - --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Jeannie wrote: From: Jeannie Subject: Re: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit To: joni@smoe.org Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 12:07 PM Well, that big dumb blond With her wheel in the gorge And Turtle, that friend of theirs With his checks all forged And his cheeks in a chunk With his cheese in the cash They're all gonna be there At that million dollar bash Ooh, baby, ooh-ee Ooh, baby, ooh-ee It's that million dollar bash Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it roll? Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it down easy to save his charlatan soul? But now I've had enough, my box is clean Now you just keep that juice to yourself And pass that joint the other way Your odd~s and ends, odds and ends Lost time is not found again May Lady Luck of Vegas shine on you And on that holy ghost thingy your juice produces. May every seat get filled every night you play At that million dollar bash Yes, I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes (no, not the Charlie Browns) You'd know then what a DRAG it is To see you, Mr. Supernatural Shaman Jeannie PS: Will The Joint allow the joints to get lit up? Maybe Carlos Santana will have to pull a Britney Spears on the audience just in case the smell of pot goes reeking down the hall to the casino. ~Lordy, nothing but fear and loathing in Las Vegas for folks like me who like to wash dishes and windows. Even Joni washes dishes with GRACE and ELEGANCE and BEAUTY with Rowdy Yates and a lovely cat her beloved audience and it's all so natural and pure. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:47:35 +0000 From: "anon anon " Subject: Re: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit are you saying that santana is a ''charlatan''? - -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:16:42 pm To: joni@smoe.org From: Jeannie Subject: Re: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit Well, that big dumb blond With her wheel in the gorge And Turtle, that friend of theirs With his checks all forged And his cheeks in a chunk With his cheese in the cash They're all gonna be there At that million dollar bash Ooh, baby, ooh-ee Ooh, baby, ooh-ee It's that million dollar bash Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it roll? Who's gonna throw that minstrel boy a coin? Who's gonna let it down easy to save his charlatan soul? But now I've had enough, my box is clean Now you just keep that juice to yourself And pass that joint the other way Your odd~s and ends, odds and ends Lost time is not found again May Lady Luck of Vegas shine on you And on that holy ghost thingy your juice produces. May every seat get filled every night you play At that million dollar bash Yes, I wish that for just one time You could stand inside my shoes (no, not the Charlie Browns) You'd know then what a DRAG it is To see you, Mr. Supernatural Shaman Jeannie PS: Will The Joint allow the joints to ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: author of new "Blue" book on Q, Tues morning as far as i know, kate, no one else has posted this. i look forward to hearing the interview between ghomeshi and michelle mercer. i am most interested in reading this book, anxious to see what her focus is, beyond the stated 'blue period'. if you cannot tune in to hear it live, you'll be able to catch it on a podcast, after the fact. 8 libraries in winnipeg have ordered in the book, and it is listed as "in processing" ... can't wait. mags - --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Kate Johnson wrote: From: Kate Johnson Subject: author of new "Blue" book on Q, Tues morning To: "JMDL people!" Received: Monday, April 20, 2009, 12:38 PM Hi all, I haven't been able to dial up this morning to see if anyone's already announced this to the list, since my beau has been busy on the phone since before I got out of bed. So I apologize if, by the time this gets sent, it's old news onlist. On the CBC radio program Q, which is on from 10 to 11:30 a.m. on weekdays, they are interviewing the author of this new book on Joni's "Blue" period, tomorrow. Interested parties may listen to it online by going to cbc.ca and following links to get to the radio listings and then the program Q, etc. Over and out, Kate *** What's cookin' in the wild west? http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:53:00 -0500 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Re: author of new "Blue" book on Q, Tues morning Which time zone at 10am? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Yanock Subject: Mohammed Hafiz Beloved, Last Time, When you walked through the city So beautiful and so naked, You left a thousand women crazy And impossible to live with. You left a thousand married men Confused about their gender. Children ran from their classrooms, And teachers were glad you came. And the sun tried to break out Of its royal cage in the sky And at last, and at last, Lay its Ancient Love at Your feet. Shams-ud-din Mohammed Hafiz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:26:27 +0000 From: lauriefuhr@yahoo.ca Subject: NJC: Something bout the buildings in Chelsea.. Visiting New York for the first time this week, a little break from the Ballet.. Things were crazy as I left cause the National Ballet out of Toronto announced they were cancelling the tour of Sleeping Beauty for financial reasons and it was going to be our first offering of the 09 10 season. Too late to change the brochures so another mess to sort out. Hoping this doesn't affect the Joni tour cause instead of taking a much needed holiday, our dancers have to learn another new dance. Anyway, who are our New York Joni List crew? Dylan and I are visiting his sister who will be working while we're looking in our Lonely Planet guide trying to figure out some fun times. Might be neat to meet! Would love to find some nightlife involving the original music community instead of cover bands... I have a feeling Joni ppl might point the right direction! Finally wrote some new on the plane. Turbulance authenticated my writ overmuch, but classical seatback radio kept playing on in my ears while the ship went down, in case it went down to hard.. Felt like This Flight Tonight! Crazy bird. Laurie Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #125 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------