From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #124 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, April 20 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 124 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Thanks [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Karla Bonoff. NJC [gerard mclaughlin ] Wonderful new book [robmsteen@aol.com] Re: Thanks NJC [Mike Pritchard ] Re: Rush song Subdivisions performed by Jacob Moon NJC [Catherine McKay <] RE: Wonderful new book ["anon anon " ] Re: Wonderful new book [Bob Muller ] Re: Rush song Subdivisions performed by Jacob Moon NJC [Mags ] Re: Fwd: pelicanwatch for joni list [Mags ] Re: Retro Covers Volume 37 - some additional notes [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:29:41 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Thanks That's amazing, Dave. I hope your talents are recognised by the right people. Mark in Sydney PS They ought to hear Robin sing too. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:33:32 +0100 From: gerard mclaughlin Subject: Karla Bonoff. NJC I had never heard of Karla Bonoff until today reading the list so I decided to check her out on you tube and I must say it was exactly like listening to Jennifer Warnes- except maybe in the early daysJennifer's voice was a wee bit higher? Everything about it reminded me of JW down to accent, timing even emotional delivery. I started to think you tube had got it wrong and it was Jennifer Warnes that I was listening to! I liked what I heard though and will indeed investigate further.. Does anyone else see the similarity? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:11:52 -0400 From: robmsteen@aol.com Subject: Wonderful new book Apologies if I've missed any previous references, but I've just returned from NYC with a wonderful new book, name of Will You Take Me As I Am, by Michelle Mercer. Underpinned by first-hand interviews with Her Joni-ness, this is a searching, eloquent and revealing study of her "Blue" period - Blue to Hejira - - that far surpasses anything else I've ever read on the subject. Or Joni period. The lack of a question mark in the title strikes the only false note. I won't spoil it for anyone by providing more than a couple of titbits, but to read of Leonard Cohen's early catalytic influence and to learn more about Joni's companions on the road trip that sired Hejira were both eye-openers to me.B Don't expect an analysis of Joni's shift from acoustic troubador to guitar goddess. It's the lyrics and personal context that come under Michelle's microscope. But do read this book. At least twice. Love RobB - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 8:00 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #107 onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 19 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 107 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JoniFest Setlists? [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: Joni ["anon anon " ] RE: Joni (p lus her changing voice -- again) [Rian Afriadi ] karla bonoff, susan boyle, joni,sara mcquaid. sjc ["gene" Subject: Re: JoniFest Setlists? The following one will be in Australia in March, 2010. Details are still being arranged but you can register your interest here http:// launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/OzFest2010/ Mark in Sydney OzFest 2010 - Get The Urge For Going - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:24:58 +0000 From: "anon anon " Subject: RE: Joni well joni certainly *did* have a gorgous voice, years ago... but it's currently not at all what it once was... - - -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:07:29 am To: joni@smoe.org From: pat post Subject: Joni Hi All Joni Lovers, I also was moved by the Susan Boyle performance. I think it is wonderful she has received so much positive attention. On the other hand our beloved Joni, whom I have been a massive fan of since I first heard her sing her original arrangement of Woodstock on a 'Best of the 70's' 8 track tape in 1972, still in my mind has one of the best and most beautiful singing voices of our time, Her range and tone are singular and perfect. Of course I would not b other to compare apples to oranges they are both delightful. Miles of Aisles is an excellent example of her huge talent. Joni is is a select group of artists who are able to express their talents in a multitude of mediums, as we all know. I gave 'The Fiddle and the Drum' video to my sister for a birthday gift, I can't wait to see it. My sis a great Joni fan also. Another fantastic female vocalist, what about K.D.Lang? She is amazing. Have a fantastic weekend everyone, finally hitting the 70 degree mark here in Michigan. Pat "L - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: RE: Joni (plus her changing voice -- again) anon anon wrote : well joni certainly *did* have a gorgous voice, years ago... but it's currently not at all what it once was... >>> Quoting Joni. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone... Well. We often talk about her voice changing. But, is there any quote from Joni herself about her changing voice? I mean, is she unhappy or is she just OK with that and realized that it's an effect of her chain-smoking and polio (that also caused muscular de------ i can;t remember the word!) Rian - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:24:51 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Thanks Thanks Cassy for answering Kate's question about JoniFest. I thought I had bored everyone to tears with my plugging it but perhaps some folks skim their JMDL sometimes. Once again...JONIFEST will be in Southern California in the mountain town of Idyllwild Sept 24-27. We are making 30 people the cut off number and we have 22 paid reservations so far with 5 or 6 more hopefuls yet to commit so there is still a little space. As Cassy helpfully wrote, the Yahoo page created for this event can be found here: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCalJoniFest09/. On that page you can pay deposits, see the venue, and see who is coming (if you can figure out their names from their email handles!) Dave of the Southwest. p.s I just got an extraordinary phone call yesterday. A man from ASCAP called me to invite me to Washington D.C, all expenses paid, to a gala event at the Library of Congress, in which songwriters and their craft are celebrated for the purpose of impressing upon Congressional leaders the value of the profession and how songwriter's rights must be honored in copyright laws, which are always under threat from the business lobbies. Apparently they need actual flesh and blood constituents from the districts of certain congressmen to be there to maybe meet with them or at least wear a name tag showing they are from their district. I assumed it was a crank call, but no, I have the plane ticket in my hand. Never been to D.C before! - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:23:14=2 0-0700 From: "gene" Subject: karla bonoff, susan boyle, joni,sara mcquaid. sjc hi kate, You're not disagreeing with me---there's a reason why i have most of her cd's/albums. Is she on the same level as joni's? Of course not--- her music isn't even close---but her writings about relationships and events in her life are pretty darn good. i can definitely relate. Saw her a year or so ago touring with Nina Gerber and Kenny Edwards. It was sweeeet. Susan Boyle. Now that was a surprise, probably because,like alot of other folks, my expectations were pretty low. Boy, did she bring tears to my eyes. It just show everyone how much singing talent is out there, away from the commercial radio/music business. I catch a house concert every month and most of the people I see I never heard of before and there hasn't been one that has disappointed me. There are some very good talented singer/songwriters out there. And I encourage all of you joni listers to go and support house concerts. Its a great venue---close and intimate. You will not be disappointed and at the same time support indie music. Joni's voice is not spectacular. The biggest complaint that I here from people I try to turn on to Joni's music is her "high pitch shrieky" vocie. Her timbre is sometimes annoying to people. But her voice, like her music, is the colors to paint her words. The only other songwriter on par with Joni is Dylan a nd we all know about his voice. Sara NcQuaid. Someone just turn me on to her and she can sing and write. Maybe some British listers can add more info about her. Give her a try. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfOQpnBx1M0 And tie everything together---in the past few years I have discovered so much music by listening to public community radio. If you have one near you, please support them and if you don't check out KVMR Community Radio via the web. Great surprise. http://www.kvmr.org/webcast.html Sorry for the long post, but you know I love my music. take care, gene - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2009 #107 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:23:59 +0200 From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: Thanks NJC ≫A man from ASCAP called me to invite me to Washington D.C, all expenses paid, to a gala event at the Library of Congress, in which songwriters and their craft are celebrated for the purpose of impressing upon Congressional leaders the value of the profession and how songwriter's rights must be honored in copyright laws, which are always under threat from the business lobbies.≪ Hi Dave I have no problem with songwriters etc getting their due reward, but I also think that it is not quite cut and dried to suggest that copyrights are under threat from business lobbies. It’s my understanding, see Lessig’s ‘Free Culture’, that creativity is being stifled by business lobbies who are constantly applying for extensions of copyright periods. I don’t see how that goes against the right of songwriters, authors etc. Quite the opposite, I would say. Am I missing something here? mike in barcelona np - Sun Kil Moon - Heron Blue ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:18:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rush song Subdivisions performed by Jacob Moon NJC I run way behind the times, especially when it comes to Youtube or Facebook. I can't access these from work ;-) I've just now looked at this and all I can say is, WOW! I can't get over how coordinated some people are. It's hard enough playing one instrument, but he's playing two guitars, messing around with pedals and loops and who knows what else and keeping it all together. Thanks for sharing that, Mags! - --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Mags wrote: > A wonderful cover of Subdivisions by > one of my favourite musicians, Jacob > Moon. Ive talked about Jacob on the list before, he's one > of those musicians > whose work just gets to me. (this is my brain on Jacob's > music ;-) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4vd9OVLO7Q > > > here's a point of reference, from 1982 : > > http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=90791520184&h=Hxxyw&u=sGdbO ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:25:26 +0000 From: "anon anon " Subject: RE: Wonderful new book has anyone read ''the music of joni mitchell'' by lloyd whitesell? i haven't yet but it looks very interesting... - -----Original Message----- Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:21:38 am To: joni@smoe.org From: robmsteen@aol.com Subject: Wonderful new book Apologies if I've missed any previous references, but I've just returned from NYC with a wonderful new book, name of Will You Take Me As I Am, by Michelle Mercer. Underpinned by first-hand interviews with Her Joni-ness, this is a searching, eloquent and revealing study of her "Blue" period - Blue to Hejira - - that far surpasses anything else I've ever read on the subject. Or Joni period. The lack of a question mark in the title strikes the only false note. I won't spoil it for anyone by providing more than a couple of titbits, but to read of Leonard Cohen's early catalytic influence and to learn more about Joni's companions on the road trip that sired Hejira were both eye-openers to me.B Don't expect an analysis of Joni's shift from acoustic troubador to guitar goddess. It's the lyrics and personal context that come under Michelle's microscope. But do read this book. At least twice. Love RobB - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-diges ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Wonderful new book It was tough going for me - he mostly writes about what is going on with Joni's songs hermonically & musically and since I am not a master of music theory, much of it was over my head. When he's discussing lyrics or themes within albums I was able to absorb much more. Bob NP: Afromotive, "Scare Tactics" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Rush song Subdivisions performed by Jacob Moon NJC Catherine, thank you so much for your review. Jacob does a fabulous job of this song. fyi, He's standing on top of the Staircase Theatre in Hammertown. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4vd9OVLO7Q Jacob also has a beautiful cover of I Know You By Heart which some of you may recognize as covered by Eva Cassidy. Jacob also recorded a cover of Under African Skies (Paul Simon) and Travis (Bela Fleck). I cannot say enough how much this guy's music moves me. . A gracious man who deserves all the goodness coming his way. Mags - --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rush song Subdivisions performed by Jacob Moon NJC To: joni@smoe.org, "Mags" Received: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 9:18 AM I run way behind the times, especially when it comes to Youtube or Facebook. I can't access these from work ;-) I've just now looked at this and all I can say is, WOW! I can't get over how coordinated some people are. It's hard enough playing one instrument, but he's playing two guitars, messing around with pedals and loops and who knows what else and keeping it all together. Thanks for sharing that, Mags! __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? 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Thanks for including them in the volume, Bob! - By the way, Bob, how many Swedish language covers are there, any idea? Marion, enjoying springtime in the Northern hemisphere - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Retro Covers Volume 37 - some additional notes > Bud Shank, whose BSN graces this volume, also plays on HOSL (flute & sax > on a number of tracks). He passed away about 2 weeks ago. > > 1. White Rose - Michael - this is actually "Michael From Mountains" as you > probably surmised. > > 17. Family Four - Runt, Runt, Runt I Ett Ekorrhjul - this is a > Swedish-language version of "The Circle Game" > 18. Family Four - Tidig Sommarmorgon - this is a Swedish-language version > of "Chelsea Morning". > > There are quite a few hard-to-come-by tracks on this one, I remember > aquiring some of these and challenges I had in doing so. > > Bob > > NP: Jenny Goodspeed, "More Than Friends" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Received: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 12:36 PM This Saskatoon website quotes Joni and I thought I'd pass it along; environmentalists are trying to prevent a dam from ruining the weir that is pelican habitat, and there are some great photos: http://pelicanwatchsaskatoon.blogspot.com/ Kate *** What's cookin' in the wild west? http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer. 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:03:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Retro Covers Volume 37 - some additional notes Thanks for that, Marion - I'm not sure exactly how many Swedish-language covers there are, I'd guess around 10 or so, just a guess though. I do love the other-than-English versions of these songs! Bob NP: Booker T, "Hey Ya" (a fabulous cover of the Outkast track from Booker T's new record, backed up by the DBT's - oh yeah!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:05:37 +0200 From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: NJC issa in NYC I would love to be there Patrick , I think this will be fantastic, go if you can Best ans love Oddmund A/ NEW YORK SHOW THURSDAY APRIL 23rd please come if you can. we have been rehearsing and I know it will lots of fun. Amy Ziff (from BETTY), Peter Joback (from Sweden) and yours truly. Peter Kiesewalter, is the musical director. (We are doing 'Calling All Angels' and a few other Siberry favourites.) Read more about the show online. $15 to $25 per person. Show is at 9pm. you can book seating positions when you book online. http://www.citywinery.com/issa-ziff-joback*** *** MORE ABOUT THE NYC SHOW 'Three amazing performers and friends team up to present a melodic and magical evening...to sing and muse about everyday extraordinary themes. Peter Jvback is one of the most prolific and respected Swedish singers  an extraordinary performer with an amazing voice: a multi-platinum recording artist combined with extensive performances on stage and TV in Scandinavia as well as Londons West End. Peter has successfully combined musical theater, including collaboration with Bjvrn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson, with pop recordings and tours to create his own unique musical platform. Amy Ziff In addition to being a pop icon and touring the world with the band BETTY, Amy has appeared in movies and tv, including Showtimes The L-Word, and originating the roles of "Mom and "Ida" on the ABC series Edith Ann. Amy also wrote and performed 2 one-woman shows, Superlatives and Accident which were invited to appear in several festivals and theaters across the U.S. and Canada. Amys solo work has been described by the New York Times as, lighthearted but layered with meanings, it typifies her method of filtering sexual politics through a pop cultural eye that is often fastened on junk culture. Issa (formerly Jane Siberry) is a pure, prolific, Canadian vocalist and composer. Her catalogue of work, which begins in 1981, includes eleven recordings that range from ethereal pop to spiritual, joyous hymns and childrens lullabies to eccentric jazz, all presented through the signature sound that is uniquely hers. Issas unending desire to find and describe the essence of human experience has led her through numerous musical inventions in a multitude of forms; the unique outlook of scientist and musician shines through them all, earning her the passionate loyalty of music-lovers world-wide ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #124 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------