From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #119 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 15 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 119 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Jbro and my Uke, Billy Bob Laurel Canyon A BLUES SONG njc [brianasymes@ao] Re: Laura Nyro NJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Laura Nyro NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Laura Nyro NJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... [Victor Johnson ] RE: Laura Nyro NJC [anon anon ] Re: Laura Nyro NJC ["anon anon " ] Re: Laura Nyro NJC [Gerald Notaro ] Re: Laura Nyro NJC [T Peckham ] Name of Joni musician wanted [Barry Divola ] Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books...now njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Name of Joni musician wanted ["Randy Remote" ] RE: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books...now njc [anon anon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:21:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... I would like to think that there is much, much more to life than we know. Why? Simply because there are so many unanswered questions, so how could there not be? You know what I'm saying? Anyhow, I always like to know what people read. I find it very interesting when Joni talks about books she has read. I admit I've read a couple of the ones she mentioned just for the fact that she mentioned them. Luckily for me, I tend to enjoy everything I read. I haven't read a horrible book since school, when they forced you to read some of the most boring literature you will ever see! For example, The Count of Monte Cristo must be brought down! I know this is a popular book but I found it so tedious and mind numbing. Oh, and I absolutely hated the Count. "I really don't know life at all." - -Monika NP: My Immortal-Evanescence - --- On Sat, 4/11/09, anon anon wrote: I just love the interview with Joni called "the education of Joni Mitchell", where she talks about reading 3 books: "The disorderly mind","the painted word", and I forget the other book... Joni talks about how reading is sometimes a mystical process, that she feels like she is *meant* to read a paticular passage from certain books, at a paticular time, and connect them with each other... this is what happened to Joni with these 3 books... this is so interesting... In a way, on one level, it sounds farfetched and terribly simplistic, and it probably is... yet, on another level, there have been many times in my life when I've had what seemed to me to be mysterious, mystical experiances... I always believe during these times, that it is much more then a coincidence... who knows, maybe there really is a lot more to "life" then we know... _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "icnh@hotmail.com" Subject: CNN - Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit Sent from icnh@hotmail.com's mobile device from http://www.cnn.com. Carlos Santana: Legalize pot, get back to spirit Whenever you speak with Carlos Santana, you pretty much know what you're going to get: lots of talk about love and light. spiritual analogies, name-dropping of people like Marvin Gaye and Mother Teresa. It may take a moment to enter the humble headspace of the 61-year-old guitarist legend, but once you're there, you realize that this is a man who acts with his heart instead of his head. Somehow, he's managing to live out his 1960s ideals in 2009 -- and he wants fans to experience a piece of that with his new Las Vegas, Nevada, show, "Supernatural Santana: A Trip Through the Hits." The 72-show residency at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino launches May 27, with 36 concerts this year and 36 in 2010. As with all his events, a portion of the cost of each ticket will be donated to the Milagro Foundation, the charitable organization founded by Santana and his family to benefit children around the world. Santana talked to CNN about the Vegas show and his beliefs. The following is an edited version of that interview. CNN: Your Vegas show sounds like it's your greatest hits mixed with a little bit of Carlos Santana spirituality. Carlos Santana: They're inseparable at this point. We're very different than a lot of bands. A lot of bands concentrate on show business and entertainment. We focus on light and touching people's hearts. We really believe that by coming to Las Vegas, it gives us an opportunity to take ourselves and the people who come to listen to us into a place where people are free from thinking they're sinners or unworthy. There's something really wonderful about music when music makes men and women dance, laugh and cry at the same time, because they're receiving like a Holy Ghost thing. CNN: Ticket prices range from $79 up to $299 -- which is a lot of money for some people in this economy. Santana: I have no clue about that. I'm more with, "This finger goes onto this note and it makes juicy sounds, and I'm going to make people dance and laugh." It's not like I don't care or I'm ignorant. It's just that I'm not wired to have that insignificance on me other than what I'm going to get to give back to other people. And other than that, I trust that the people around me -- which is my sister and my brother-in-law -- will take care of all of those dimensions. We don't like to gouge people, but we do like to be realistic that you do need to pay the rent ... and stuff like that. But other than that, since I was a child, I really don't put that much focus or significance into it. CNN: You're well-loved by mainstream audiences, and the Latino audience has been really supportive, too. Do you think this is opening up the door to perhaps invite the Latino audience to Vegas? Santana: They're already there. They're washing dishes and folding sheets -- I'm serious. The Latin community is there. It's just that we don't see them. ... I don't belong to just Latinos just because I speak Spanish. We go to Ireland, and if we go to Pakistan, or Istanbul or Malaysia, we're part of the family. We just did a tour in South America, and I have never seen so many children come to our concerts in my life -- and I've been doing this since '67. CNN: You were born in Mexico, and President Obama will be heading there to talk about the war on drugs. [Secretary of State] Hillary Clinton recently made some remarks that United States drug consumption is partially to blame for this problem. Do you agree with that? Santana: Totally. I think that the solution to all of this stuff would be to legalize it, decriminalize it, reinvest all that money into teachers in schools. ... If we would teach in schools the incredible sensation of climax that it feels to be of service to other people -- like Mother Teresa, or Desmond Tutu or the Dalai Lama -- smoking pot, and drinking tequila, and watching porno or whatever people do, it pales in comparison when you actually wake up to be of service to people. To go back to the question -- I think we should legalize marijuana. I think Barack Obama should bring the brothers and sisters home -- the soldiers. If I was to see him, I would go, "Listen to Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' and John Coltrane, and bring the boys home from the war now, like we did with Vietnam." They're not going to come here. People in Vietnam did not come here to attack us after we left them alone. So let's get rid of that fear, that fantasy, that stuff. Let's get rid of the bogeyman, because the bogeyman is us looking in the mirror of each other. CNN: What about when people don't get it, Carlos? What if they're listening to you and thinking, "He sounds like one of those New Age Californians, and I really don't get what they're doing out there." Santana: Well, they don't get it because they're stuck in something that is not working. Like, for example, a lot of people are stuck with certain parts of the Bible, believing that God is vengeful and jealous. That's Godzilla! I'm not stuck with a God like that. I'm stuck with a God that's all love, all compassion, all light, and he only sees you with purity and innocence, like the brand-new eyes of a child that's just been born. ... A lot about Las Vegas is illusion. It's entertainment and show business. We don't know none of that. We only know to go into your heart and help you remember that it's there. I know a lot of rich millionaires who are not happy, and you're only happy when you're doing something. CNN: Are you happy? Santana: I'm very, very happy because I'm grateful. My priorities finally have been crystallized. I started washing dishes, and now I do this. And this is a lot of fun. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... NJC now well, m'deara, you are in good company, as you know, there are loads of readers in your midst. i love hearing what others are reading. i have made a few false attempts of late and need a good recommendation. that said, until this sinus thing settles down, i'm lucky if i can go beyond five minutes reading ;-) but i do want to quote something that i found in the intro of a book of short stories entitled: Truth or Dare Justine Picardie writes: "I have heard other people's stories: in letters and emails from strangers; in the middle of parties or at the edges of a crowded room. It's as if in telling my tale - an ordinary one, that speaks of the grief and loss that is part of being human - I have also become a listener to those others who want to share their spirits with me. And I always listen carefully, for these are the stories that cannot be ignored, and every narrative is different, and yet also the same, as well". reminds me of all the stories told on this list. Mags, listening carefully~ - --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... To: "anon anon" , "Joni people!" Received: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 12:21 PM I would like to think that there is much, much more to life than we know. Why? Simply because there are so many unanswered questions, so how could there not be? You know what I'm saying? Anyhow, I always like to know what people read. I find it very interesting when Joni talks about books she has read. I admit I've read a couple of the ones she mentioned just for the fact that she mentioned them. Luckily for me, I tend to enjoy everything I read. I haven't read a horrible book since school, when they forced you to read some of the most boring literature you will ever see! For example, The Count of Monte Cristo must be brought down! I know this is a popular book but I found it so tedious and mind numbing. Oh, and I absolutely hated the Count. "I really don't know life at all." - -Monika NP: My Immortal-Evanescence - --- On Sat, 4/11/09, anon anon wrote: I just love the interview with Joni called "the education of Joni Mitchell", where she talks about reading 3 books: "The disorderly mind","the painted word", and I forget the other book... Joni talks about how reading is sometimes a mystical process, that she feels like she is *meant* to read a paticular passage from certain books, at a paticular time, and connect them with each other... this is what happened to Joni with these 3 books... this is so interesting... In a way, on one level, it sounds farfetched and terribly simplistic, and it probably is... yet, on another level, there have been many times in my life when I've had what seemed to me to be mysterious, mystical experiances... I always believe during these times, that it is much more then a coincidence... who knows, maybe there really is a lot more to "life" then we know... _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger..yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:51:20 -0600 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC Just to say I'm a long-time fan of late great Laura Nyro. She is woefully under-rated and unappreciated, even by some of my friends who seem to know a lot about music. She is sadly missed, but left us a room full of inspiration. Bonneville Bruce NP: Maria Tipo "Bach Partitas 3-5-6" > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:40:43 +0100 > From: Azeem Ali Khan > Subject: Laura Nyro NJC > > As I read this morning's digest, I was in the process of transferring some > Laura into my itunes; "feeding my iPhone" is a funny notion isn't it? I > felt I had to have the magic trilogy of Eli, NYT and Xmas & the Beads of > Sweat. Anyway, I saw her perform once, in what was her first appearance in > the UK for god knows how long - and it was less than a year before her > death. When she sang To A Child, there was nary a dry eye in the house, and > this was BEFORE I became a parent! > > Laura Nyro was touched with genius, no question. > > Azeem in London > NP: Tim Buckley - Pleasant Street/You Keep Me Hanging On [it was meant to be > Laura singing Brown Earth, but it finished before I finished typing - the > tyranny of Shuffle waits for no one!] > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:09:56 -0400 From: brianasymes@aol.com Subject: Jbro and my Uke, Billy Bob Laurel Canyon A BLUES SONG njc I love Jbro to she signed my National Uke and I started playing a Blues tuneB I wrote and she sang along my new uke is up at www.sprucehouseukulele.com down in the custom section To defend BB I think there was a remark about being 6 in the morning if thats that case I can understand his displeasure. I finally rented "Laurel Canyon " the Nuetra house was througkly hidden behind years of stuff. in the DVD featurette the director/writer talked about getting turned on to LOTC and used as a seed for the movie. which was kind of interesting but had a disapointing ending. I GOT THE BLUES TODAY B A7 I GOT THE BLUES TODAY A7 LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY D7 I GOT THE BLUES TODAY A7 MY BABY WENT AWAY E7 A COLD WIND BLEW DOWN MY STREET D7 IT SENT HER IN RETREAT E7 NO LONGER HOLDING MY HAND D7 SHE FLEW ALL THE WAY TO DISNEY LAND BACK AND FORTH A7 A A7 A AM D7 AMB D7 AM A7 B A7 I GOT THE BLUES TODAY D7 LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY A7 SHE WILL STAY AWAY D7 UNTILL SHE HEARbS ME SAY E7 LETS MARRY IN MAUI TODAY. D7B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B D OUR LOVE WILL ONLY GROW E7B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B WITH SAND BETWEEN OUR TOES D7 WE CANFORGET ABOUT THE SNOW=0 A A7 NO LONGER GOT THE BLUES TODAYB B 3 TIMES FADE OUT! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:35:26 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC Maybe unappreciated by the masses, but greatly loved by many. I went to see Karla Bonoff this weekend. I used to listen to a lot of her stuff around the time I was first getting into Laura. She can't hold Laura's candle. Laura was pure genius, up there in my book with Joni, especially as a musical and lyrical innovator. Jerry On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Bruce Eggleston wrote: > Just to say I'm a long-time fan of late great Laura Nyro. She is > woefully under-rated and unappreciated, even by some of my friends > who seem to know a lot about music. She is sadly missed, but left us a > room full of inspiration. > > Bonneville Bruce > NP: Maria Tipo "Bach Partitas 3-5-6" > > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:40:43 +0100 > > From: Azeem Ali Khan > > Subject: Laura Nyro NJC > > > > As I read this morning's digest, I was in the process of transferring > some > > Laura into my itunes; "feeding my iPhone" is a funny notion isn't it? I > > felt I had to have the magic trilogy of Eli, NYT and Xmas & the Beads of > > Sweat. Anyway, I saw her perform once, in what was her first appearance > in > > the UK for god knows how long - and it was less than a year before her > > death. When she sang To A Child, there was nary a dry eye in the house, > and > > this was BEFORE I became a parent! > > > > Laura Nyro was touched with genius, no question. > > > > Azeem in London > > NP: Tim Buckley - Pleasant Street/You Keep Me Hanging On [it was meant to > be > > Laura singing Brown Earth, but it finished before I finished typing - the > > tyranny of Shuffle waits for no one!] > > > > ------------------------------ > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:59:50 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC It's tough putting ANYONE in Laura's league as a songwriter & performer. Karla Bonoff was a great songwriter but her own performances of her songs were pretty lightweight compared to versions by Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, and many more. Doesn't take anything away from her as a writer though as her songs are top-notch. Hard to achieve that Joni Mitchell/Laura Nyro plateau where both composition and performance are stratospherically good. Bob NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Flint (For the Unemployed & Underpaid)" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:42:34 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC I'll have to respectfully disagree with you about Karla's songs, Bob. Most of them don't hold up well. In fact, our local reviewer referred to them as "examples of 70s SoCal mellow mopery." To read the whole review (and my subsequent comments) see: http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/tampacalling/2009/04/12/concert-review-karla - -bonoffs-embarrassing-display/ Jerry On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > > It's tough putting ANYONE in Laura's league as a songwriter & performer. > Karla Bonoff was a great songwriter but her own performances of her songs > were pretty lightweight compared to versions by Bonnie Raitt, Linda > Ronstadt, and many more. Doesn't take anything away from her as a writer > though as her songs are top-notch. Hard to achieve that Joni Mitchell/Laura > Nyro plateau where both composition and performance are stratospherically > good. > > Bob > > NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Flint (For the Unemployed & Underpaid)" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:51:41 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... One of the best books I ever read. I love all the intrigue and the mystery. On Apr 14, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > For example, The Count of Monte Cristo must be brought down! > I know this is a popular book but I found it so tedious and mind > numbing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:56:14 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC That's just an opinion though...I would cite songs like "Home", "Lose Again", "Someone To Lay Down Beside Me"...all of these still sound as lovely and/or powerful as the first time I heard them. Never cared for Karla's own versions of them, however. Besides, the arc of her career was only a couple of years. She was pretty successful in terms of the exposure her songs received, they must have had more merit than you think. And you could say the same things about some of the songs on Clouds & LOTC, (or most of Carly Simon's work for that matter)but that wouldn't make it so. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Swordfishtrombone" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:09:30 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, wrote: > > of them don't hold up well.> > > That's just an opinion though... Well that would be true of everyone's evaluation, now wouldn't it? Putting "just" in front of it doesn't make it any less valid. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:04:53 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: RE: Laura Nyro NJC One person who is quite talented as a singer/songwriter is Janis Ian... She is also quite warm and freindly and open with her fans, as can be demonstrated by visiting her website... I would imagine that it's fairly unusual to be so welcoming of fans... However, I get the strong impression from some of Janis's statements in her interviews that she has some degree of jealousy towards Joni... that is understandable... I would guess that lots of perfomers are jealous of how talented and successful Joni is... > To: notaro@mail.usf.edu > CC: joni@smoe.org; the.bonneville@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:59:50 -0400 > > > > It's tough putting ANYONE in Laura's league as a songwriter & performer. > Karla Bonoff was a great songwriter but her own performances of her songs > were pretty lightweight compared to versions by Bonnie Raitt, Linda > Ronstadt, and many more. Doesn't take anything away from her as a writer > though as her songs are top-notch. Hard to achieve that Joni > Mitchell/Laura Nyro plateau where both composition and performance are > stratospherically good. > > Bob > > NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Flint (For the Unemployed & Underpaid)" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:11:37 +0000 From: "anon anon " Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC do you know who is a very talented singer/songwriter? janis ian. she is also very warm and open and kind to her fans. i get the strong feeling from statements she has made that she is jealous of joni. probobly lots of performers are jealous of joni... - -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:06:59 pm To: notaro@mail.usf.edu Cc: joni@smoe.org;the.bonneville@gmail.com From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC It's tough putting ANYONE in Laura's league as a songwriter & performer. Karla Bonoff was a great songwriter but her own performances of her songs were pretty lightweight compared to versions by Bonnie Raitt, Linda Ronstadt, and many more. Doesn't take anything away from her as a writer though as her songs are top-notch. Hard to achieve that Joni Mitchell/Laura Nyro plateau where both composition and performance are stratospherically good. Bob NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Flint (For the Unemployed & Underpaid)" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you r ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:06:10 -0400 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC Funny you should mention her. She is next in the singer/songwriter series I am going to see, She is always great live. Gives her audience 110%. Jery On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, anon anon wrote: > One person who is quite talented as a singer/songwriter is Janis > Ian... She is also quite warm and freindly and open with her fans, as can be > demonstrated by visiting her website... I would imagine that it's fairly > unusual to be so welcoming of fans... However, I get the strong impression > from some of Janis's statements in her interviews that she has some degree > of jealousy towards Joni... that is understandable... I would guess that > lots of perfomers are jealous of how talented and successful Joni is... > > > To: notaro@mail.usf.edu > > CC: joni@smoe.org; the.bonneville@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC > > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:59:50 -0400 > > > > > > > > It's tough putting ANYONE in Laura's league as a songwriter & performer. > > Karla Bonoff was a great songwriter but her own performances of her songs > > > were pretty lightweight compared to versions by Bonnie Raitt, Linda > > Ronstadt, and many more. Doesn't take anything away from her as a writer > > though as her songs are top-notch. Hard to achieve that Joni > > Mitchell/Laura Nyro plateau where both composition and performance are > > stratospherically good. > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Flint (For the Unemployed & Underpaid)" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check > it out. > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:20:42 -0500 From: T Peckham Subject: Re: Laura Nyro NJC Has anyone read Janis's autobio? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Gerald Notaro wrote: > Funny you should mention her. She is next in the singer/songwriter series I > am going to see, She is always great live. Gives her audience 110%. > > Jery > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, anon anon wrote: > > > One person who is quite talented as a singer/songwriter is Janis > > Ian... She is also quite warm and freindly and open with her fans, as can > be > > demonstrated by visiting her website... I would imagine that it's fairly > > unusual to be so welcoming of fans... However, I get the strong > impression > > from some of Janis's statements in her interviews that she has some > degree > > of jealousy towards Joni... that is understandable... I would guess that > > lots of perfomers are jealous of how talented and successful Joni is... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:01:04 +1000 From: Barry Divola Subject: Name of Joni musician wanted Hello, I'm searching for the name of a fairly unknown bass player, first name Steve or Steven, who played with Joni either on record or in a live band, some time in the 60s and 70s. Sorry, I know that sounds vague, but that's all the info I have to go on. Hoping somewhere out there may be able to help. Barry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:35:37 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books...now njc When I was in school, even into my college years, I had a perverse stubbornness about reading any literature that was 'assigned'. I don't know how many books I faked my way through tests, papers and discussions about. If I was told I had to read it, I just wouldn't read it as a rule. I remember one of the books we were supposed to read in 8th grade was 'Great Expectations'. I don't remember reading 1 word of it although I think I must have started it. For many years the only Dickens I had read was 'A Christmas Carol' and some of his other Christmas stories. But what I'm finding in recent years is that I missed out on a lot of great books (and some not so great) by being so silly or lazy or whatever it was. I have been making up for my deficiency in Dickens and read 'Great Expectations' about a year ago maybe and loved it. Right now I am reading 'David Copperfield' for the first time. I don't like it as well as 'GE' or 'A Tale of Two Cities'. My absolute favorite Dickens so far, however, is one that was not that well known until Gillian Anderson starred in a BBC adaptation of it. 'Bleak House' is highly entertaining. A page-turner in many ways. A mystery story, a social commentary, a murder mystery, sometimes on the melodramatic side, but full of memorable characters and a wonderfully complex plot. 'Little Dorrit' is not as much fun but does leave a lasting impression, I'm finding. Dickens became much more blatant and satirical in his social criticism in his later work. 'Middlemarch' was a challenge. It took me a long time to get through and I can't say it was a thrilling read. But I must say, that it has stuck with me and I admire George Eliot's (Mary Ann Evans, I believe was her real name - like the Bronte sisters she felt compelled to publish under a man's name) accomplishment in writing it. Very sharp observations about middle-class life in a small English village in the 19th century, many of which are still relevant today, I think. I have always loved reading but part of my problem, I think, was that I could never read fast. I still don't to this day. But if I feel what I'm reading is worth the effort, it sticks with me as a rule. And I have read 'War and Peace'. Twice in my lifetime actually, and I may read it again some day. A wonderful story and an amazing literary accomplishment. Worth the time and effort. On a side note, Monika, Constance Garnett was a famous translator of Russian literature (including 'War and Peace' and 'Anna Karenina'). She was David 'Bunny' Garnett's mother. Bunny was an adult when Virginia Woolf's niece, Angelica Bell was born and he said she was so beautiful, he wanted to marry her. He eventually did when Angelica was in her early 20s. There was more than 25 years difference in their ages. He had also been Angelica's father's lover at one point of his life. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" To: "anon anon" ; "Joni people!" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:21 AM Subject: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... > I would like to think that there is much, much more to life than > we know. > Why? Simply because there are so many unanswered questions, so how > could > there not be? You know what I'm saying? > Anyhow, I always like to know what people read. I find it very > interesting > when Joni talks about books she has read. I admit I've read a > couple of the > ones she mentioned just for the fact that she mentioned them. > Luckily for me, > I tend to enjoy everything I read. I haven't read a horrible book > since > school, when they forced you to read some of the most boring > literature you > will ever see! For example, The Count of Monte Cristo must be > brought down! > I know this is a popular book but I found it so tedious and mind > numbing. > Oh, and I absolutely hated the Count. > "I really don't know life at all." > -Monika > NP: My Immortal-Evanescence > > > > --- On Sat, 4/11/09, anon anon wrote: > > I just love the interview with Joni called "the education of Joni > Mitchell", where she talks about reading 3 books: "The disorderly > mind","the > painted word", and I forget the other book... Joni talks about how > reading is > sometimes a mystical process, that she feels like she is *meant* to > read a > paticular passage from certain books, at a paticular time, and > connect them > with each other... this is what happened to Joni with these 3 > books... this > is > so interesting... In a way, on one level, it sounds farfetched and > terribly > simplistic, and it probably is... yet, on another level, there have > been many > times in my life when I've had what seemed to me to be mysterious, > mystical > experiances... I always believe during these times, that it is much > more then > a coincidence... who knows, maybe there really is a lot more to > "life" then > we > know... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda > tes1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:48:27 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: The Reader njc Somewhat a propos of my last post, I saw the movie 'The Reader' this weekend. I'm glad Kate Winslet won the Oscar. Both she and David Kross gave extraordinary performances in this thought-provoking film. Same director and screenwriter as 'The Hours'. Not quite what I expected and I'm glad I didn't read too much about this movie before I saw it. Second-run movie houses are great. There's one near here called The Crest that I have been going to for as long as I've lived in Seattle. It cost $3.00 to see this movie at The Crest. Mark in Seattle. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:38:40 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Name of Joni musician wanted > I'm searching for the name of a fairly unknown bass player, first > name Steve or Steven, who played with Joni either on record or in a > live band, some time in the 60s and 70s. > Barry Stephen Stills? Bass player for Joni's first album, also played on "Carey" (Blue) and "Blonde In The Bleachers" (For The Roses). Not exactly unknown but not usually thought of as a bassist. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:14:03 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: RE: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books...now njc interesting... I had a very similiar experiance in high school... In my class we were all supposed to read "Mrs dalloway", "Pride and prejudice" and "Wuthering Heights". I, in my infinite adolescent wisdom, didn't read any of those books at the time. So, now I am slowly reading 2 of those books, and hopefully will read the other book as well... > From: mark.travis@gte.net > To: motitan75@yahoo.com; icnh@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books...now njc > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:35:37 -0700 > > When I was in school, even into my college years, I had a perverse > stubbornness about reading any literature that was 'assigned'. I > don't know how many books I faked my way through tests, papers and > discussions about. If I was told I had to read it, I just wouldn't > read it as a rule. > > I remember one of the books we were supposed to read in 8th grade was > 'Great Expectations'. I don't remember reading 1 word of it although > I think I must have started it. For many years the only Dickens I had > read was 'A Christmas Carol' and some of his other Christmas stories. > > But what I'm finding in recent years is that I missed out on a lot of > great books (and some not so great) by being so silly or lazy or > whatever it was. I have been making up for my deficiency in Dickens > and read 'Great Expectations' about a year ago maybe and loved it. > Right now I am reading 'David Copperfield' for the first time. I > don't like it as well as 'GE' or 'A Tale of Two Cities'. My absolute > favorite Dickens so far, however, is one that was not that well known > until Gillian Anderson starred in a BBC adaptation of it. 'Bleak > House' is highly entertaining. A page-turner in many ways. A mystery > story, a social commentary, a murder mystery, sometimes on the > melodramatic side, but full of memorable characters and a wonderfully > complex plot. 'Little Dorrit' is not as much fun but does leave a > lasting impression, I'm finding. Dickens became much more blatant and > satirical in his social criticism in his later work. > > 'Middlemarch' was a challenge. It took me a long time to get through > and I can't say it was a thrilling read. But I must say, that it has > stuck with me and I admire George Eliot's (Mary Ann Evans, I believe > was her real name - like the Bronte sisters she felt compelled to > publish under a man's name) accomplishment in writing it. Very sharp > observations about middle-class life in a small English village in the > 19th century, many of which are still relevant today, I think. > > I have always loved reading but part of my problem, I think, was that > I could never read fast. I still don't to this day. But if I feel > what I'm reading is worth the effort, it sticks with me as a rule. > > And I have read 'War and Peace'. Twice in my lifetime actually, and I > may read it again some day. A wonderful story and an amazing literary > accomplishment. Worth the time and effort. > > On a side note, Monika, Constance Garnett was a famous translator of > Russian literature (including 'War and Peace' and 'Anna Karenina'). > She was David 'Bunny' Garnett's mother. Bunny was an adult when > Virginia Woolf's niece, Angelica Bell was born and he said she was so > beautiful, he wanted to marry her. He eventually did when Angelica > was in her early 20s. There was more than 25 years difference in > their ages. He had also been Angelica's father's lover at one point > of his life. > > Mark in Seattle > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" > To: "anon anon" ; "Joni people!" > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:21 AM > Subject: SJC Re: Joni Mitchell's 3 mystical books... > > > > I would like to think that there is much, much more to life than > > we know. > > Why? Simply because there are so many unanswered questions, so how > > could > > there not be? You know what I'm saying? > > Anyhow, I always like to know what people read. I find it very > > interesting > > when Joni talks about books she has read. I admit I've read a > > couple of the > > ones she mentioned just for the fact that she mentioned them. > > Luckily for me, > > I tend to enjoy everything I read. I haven't read a horrible book > > since > > school, when they forced you to read some of the most boring > > literature you > > will ever see! For example, The Count of Monte Cristo must be > > brought down! > > I know this is a popular book but I found it so tedious and mind > > numbing. > > Oh, and I absolutely hated the Count. > > "I really don't know life at all." > > -Monika > > NP: My Immortal-Evanescence > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/11/09, anon anon wrote: > > > > I just love the interview with Joni called "the education of Joni > > Mitchell", where she talks about reading 3 books: "The disorderly > > mind","the > > painted word", and I forget the other book... Joni talks about how > > reading is > > sometimes a mystical process, that she feels like she is *meant* to > > read a > > paticular passage from certain books, at a paticular time, and > > connect them > > with each other... this is what happened to Joni with these 3 > > books... this > > is > > so interesting... In a way, on one level, it sounds farfetched and > > terribly > > simplistic, and it probably is... yet, on another level, there have > > been many > > times in my life when I've had what seemed to me to be mysterious, > > mystical > > experiances... I always believe during these times, that it is much > > more then > > a coincidence... who knows, maybe there really is a lot more to > > "life" then > > we > > know... > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. > > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda > > tes1_042009 > _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:40:44 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Name of Joni musician wanted - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Divola" <<< I'm searching for the name of a fairly unknown bass player, first name Steve or Steven, who played with Joni either on record or in a live band, some time in the 60s and 70s. Sorry, I know that sounds vague, but that's all the info I have to go on. Hoping somewhere out there may be able to help. >>> Bass players that I'm aware of (and I'm far from an expert) that have played with Joni are: Steven Stills Max Bennett Wilton Felder *Jim Hughart * Probably the least known of the group Jaco Pastorius Larry Klein (her husband) Herbie Hancock played electric bass on a couple of songs Eddie Gomez Stanley Clarke At least these are the artists who have been given credits. There are a couple of bass players from orchestras in later releases but not "known" bassists - to me. Steve Lukather played guitar with Joni but that was in the 80s and he's not an unknown. Sorry I can't think of any other bassists. Cassy NP: Eurythmics - Missionary Man If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #119 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------