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JMDL Digest          Sunday, March 15 2009          Volume 2009 : Number 086



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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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  Re: Joni in the New Yorker / image  ["Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>]
  Re: Valde Volde mort, njc             [Mike Pritchard <mikeprit@gmail.com>]
  Re: Valde Volde mort, njc         [Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>]
  Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc  [Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Joni in the New Yorker / image                 [Em <emzdogz@yahoo.com>]
  The World in Six Songs - apparently reviewed by Joni  [Lieve Reckers <liev]
  Re: jonimitchell.com wants you   [Lieve Reckers <lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk>]
  RE: Joni in the New Yorker / image           ["hell" <hell@farmside.co.nz>]
  Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc   ["Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>]
  Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc  [Jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc  [Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>]

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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:38:04 -0700
From: "Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: Joni in the New Yorker / image

http://tinyurl.com/cagzl5

I still don't get it. Maybe the cartoonist thought Joni
wrote "So Far Away".
RR

> http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=32K4L1GUT7NT8MWAKM783M
> 0176HSAKQB&sitetype=1&affiliate=ny-cbpromo&sid=128351&did=4

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:53:47 +0100
From: Mike Pritchard <mikeprit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Valde Volde mort, njc

And the Catalan nerd in me would add that the preposition part of his name
i.e. de, here can also mean of and not only from, thus changing the
meaning significantly. Compare Ssc de Gal.les = I am from Wales and is
de cuir = it is made of leather (probably some  accent issues here,
despite the new website?).  Also used in Spanish and Catalan (and many other
Latin-based languages I would guess) in an adjectival sense. Un partit de
por, literally, means a (soccer etc) match of fear, but in English we would
say a tense match, or a worrying match, or frightening match, meaning a
match that is very important and which has serious consequences for fans if
their team loses. So, Vol de mort, in Catalan, could be a flight of death,
namely leading to someones death, not only flight from death. Pena de mort
is the death penalty; here you can see the prepositional complementation
penalty of death, very typical here, rather than the Anglo-Saxon adjective
before the noun. Sermon over, back to your breakfast.

mike en barcelona

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Catherine McKay <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Valde Volde mort, njc

That's the beauty of language. I was even going to go so far as to suggest
that the "vol" part could have an origin in the word for "want", (as in "wants
death" or "wanter (?) of death") but I'm not sure about that. ("Veult" in old
French means "want" but I don't know if you could trace it back further and
suggest that "voler" and "vouloir" - modern French for "to want" - have the
same origin. ) With just a superficial search,B  I can't find anything to
prove it.

"De" means both "of" and "from" in French too.

- --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Mike Pritchard <mikeprit@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Mike Pritchard <mikeprit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Valde Volde mort, njc
To: "list" <joni@smoe.org>, "Catherine Mckay" <anima_rising@yahoo.ca>, "Mark
Scott" <mark.travis@gte.net>
Received: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 5:53 AM


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And
the Catalan nerd in me would add that the preposition part of his name i.e.
bdeb,
here can also mean bofb and not only bfromb, thus changing the
meaning
significantly. Compare bSC3c de Gal.lesb = bI am from Walesb and
bC)s de cuirb = bit
is made of leatherb (probably someB  accent
issues here, despite the new website?). B Also
used in Spanish and Catalan (and many other Latin-based languages I would
guess) in an adjectival sense. Un partit de por, literally, means a (soccer
etc) match of fear, but in English we would say a tense match, or a worrying
match, or frightening match, meaning a match that is very important and which
has serious consequences for fans if their team loses. So, Vol de mort, in
Catalan, could be a flight of death, namely leading to someonebs death, not
only
flight from death. Pena de mort is the death penalty; here you can see the
prepositional
complementation bpenalty of deathb, very typical here, rather than the
Anglo-Saxon
adjective before the noun. Sermon over, back to your breakfast.mike en
barcelona





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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc

Has Anyone called the JMDL cops on Nobody yet?

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Em <emzdogz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Joni in the New Yorker / image

we need bumper sticklers!

- --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Randy Remote <guitarzan@hughes.net> wrote:
From: Randy Remote <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: Joni in the New Yorker / image
To: joni@smoe.org, "ann jensen" <laughasan@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 8:38 PM

http://tinyurl.com/cagzl5

I still don't get it. Maybe the cartoonist thought Joni
wrote "So Far Away".
RR

>
http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=32K4L1GUT7NT8MWAKM783M
>
0176HSAKQB&sitetype=1&affiliate=ny-cbpromo&sid=128351&did=4

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:07:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lieve Reckers <lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: The World in Six Songs - apparently reviewed by Joni

A few years ago, I readsomeone's post on this list about the book "This is
Your Brain on Music" by Daniel Levitin.  It sounded interesting and I bought
it from Amazon.  (In fact bought it for my son who I knew would love it, and
he did, and now it is still waiting for me to read it and hopefully love it
too.)

Anyway, because of that purchase I now got a message from Amazon about
the author's follow-up book: "The World in Six Songs".  It includes 2 reviews,
one from Sting and one apparently from Joni.
Joni's comment reads:  "This is
the worst idea for a book I've ever heard - it makes me want to vomit. The
idea encapsulates the very worst part of Western thought."  "I take it back -
I'm sorry! This is great!"
I first had my doubt that Joni would really write
such a comment, but it clearly states "Joni Mitchell" after the quote, so I
guess Amazon must know what they advertise.

For anybody further interested,
Sting's comment reads: "Music seems to have an almost wilful, evasive quality,
defying simple explanation, so that the more we find out, the more there is to
know, leaving its power and mystery intact, however much we may dig and delve.
Daniel's book is an eloquent and poetic exploration of this paradox."

And
here is some more info about the book itself from the Amazon site: 
In his
enthralling and revelatory "This is Your Brain on Music", Daniel Levitin
unpicked the pathways of the brain to reveal how human beings have been
hard-wired for music.
Now, in an astonishing blend of art and science, he
unveils his revolutionary theory of 'Six Songs', and describes how music
played a pivotal role in the creation of human culture and society.Dividing
the sum total of human musical achievement, from Beethoven to The Beatles,
Busta Rhymes to Bach, into just six fundamental forms, Levitin illuminates,
through songs of friendship, joy, comfort, knowledge, religion and love, how
music has been instrumental in the evolution of language, thought and culture.
And how, far from being a bit of a song and dance, music is at the core of
what it means to be human.A one-time record producer, now a leading
neuroscientist, Levitin has composed a catchy and startlingly ambitious
narrative that weaves together Darwin and Dionne Warwick, memoir and biology,
anthropology and a jukebox of anecdote to create nothing less than the
'soundtrack of civilisation'."The World in Six Songs" will change the way you
listen to music
 forever.

About the Author: Daniel Levitin is the James McGill Professor of
Psychology and Neuroscience at McGill University. Before entering academia he
worked as a session musician, sound engineer and record producer. He lives in
Montreal, Canada. 

All the best,
Lieve in London

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:40:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: Lieve Reckers <lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: jonimitchell.com wants you

Les, sorry I am late in my reply.  I think the new site is great, I am really
in awe of all the work that you and Raffaelle have put into it.  Also thanks
for the work of all the others (the tabs, wall paper, covers etc etc).  I will
try to do my bit with some typing.  (As you know, I offered help before but
never knew how to get hold of the texts to be typed out.)

Can I just make one
constructive (I hope!) suggestion?  At the moment, people who discover this
site, presumably people like us who are interested in Joni Mitchell's
music, may never discover from that site that this discussion list exists. 
There is only the word "JMDL" (pretty meaningless to an outsider) at the
bottom of the home page.  So I would suggest that it is spelled out more
clearly that there is this discussion list, and that people can join up
through such-and-such link.

Also, the info on the JMDL site is quite out of
date.  For instance, it still lists the 2008 Jonifest as "to come".  It also
mentions the "Joni in fiction" section but that seems to have disappeared. 
Could it not be preserved somewhere as a tribute to Bob Murphy, even if it is
no longer maintained and updated?

I hope this is useful.
All the best,
Lieve

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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:32:36 +1300
From: "hell" <hell@farmside.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Joni in the New Yorker / image

Randy wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/cagzl5
>
> I still don't get it. Maybe the cartoonist thought Joni
> wrote "So Far Away".

They appear to be sitting in a Starbucks - maybe it's a satirical view of
how the financial crisis is affecting companies.  Many Starbuck franchises
have had to close, but Joni Mitchell is still being played in the remaining
ones?

I know it's a bit far-fetched, but I looked at some of Victoria Roberts'
other cartoons, and she seems to be one of "those" kinds of cartoonists (my
least favourite, to be honest - trying to be smarter than her audience).


Hell - in a dark NZ (well, it is 6am on a Sunday...)

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:35:08 -0700
From: "Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc

Nobody's not here.

From: "Laura Stanley" <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>

> Has Anyone called the JMDL cops on Nobody yet?

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:12:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc

- --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc
> To: joni@smoe.org
> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 9:17 AM
> Has Anyone called the JMDL cops on Nobody yet?

Somebunny's on the Car 54 beat already, Laura, after having to borrow Ray's Dad's Cadillac, in search of a stalker named Jack who also suffers with bean fetishes and persistent flatulence, thus he'll be easily detectable to Officer Bugs Bunny.


I like silly seabird questions but limited to only one way to answer them.

It's all good anywise.

Cheers and Smiles, Laura!

Now I must get back to this moment of the world and myself, orbiting around the sun and it feels so real when I dance and spin round and round like a dervish, as I listen to my Joni music, fully focused and mighty serious in sweet harmony with the Universal rhythm.

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laura Stanley <sillyseabird@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nobody's Stalking Anyone, njc

- --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Now I must get back to this moment of the world and myself,
> orbiting around the sun and it feels so real when I dance
> and spin round and round like a dervish, as I listen to my
> Joni music, fully focused and mighty serious in sweet
> harmony with the Universal rhythm.


Sweet bird you are Jeannie.

Love,
Dr. Laura

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