From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #53 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, February 15 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 053 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC McGarrigles and Valentine [Oddmund Kaarevik ] NJC Another Valentine [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Re: JMDL Digest V2009 #50 [Garret ] Re: NJC McGarrigles and Valentine [Garret ] NJC, Smurf he comes for conversation, he comforts me sometimes [Laura Sta] Music that the kids like - vljc [Catherine McKay ] NJC English Folk Music [Bob Muller ] Upcoming Joni Tribute in Melbourne (Australia, not Florida) [Bob Muller <] RE: TV Alert: Graham Nash tonight [Patti Parlette ] Muzak declares bankruptcy, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: The Screaming of Summer Lawns, and then the flight to Buffalo [Gerald] NJC: SueMac, Jerry [] Valentine's Day [Willie Yanock ] RE: The Screaming of Summer Lawns, and then the flight to Buffalo NOW NJC [Patti Parlette ] two grey rooms help - njc? ["Les Irvin" ] NJC, Ballad for Cindy Sheehan: A Valentine for Smurf [Patti Parlette Subject: NJC McGarrigles and Valentine So I treated myself with Kate and Anna McGarrigle's "Love over and over" - Valentine's and everything And there I found a song - from the very year I was born So I thought I should share the lyrics with you loves St.Valentines Day 1978 Red running shoes with crumbling soles clashes with pink pearls 'round my love, wanton soul my body was attired in jute, jean and satin I waited for Valentine The day passed quickly it was soon afternoon not long to wait for a chance to swoon at my door there came a knock left a smudge for a mark he was gone but he gave me his black heart Black heart tied with a ribbon narrow now thoroughly framed hangs from the piano to the right just a bit above my middle C and might as well be inside of me Red hearts are red black heart is true inviolate, noble and new the one who must free you is frequently blue and can't find the key and has no clue If I never found these would it be so bad you'd gather dust and I'd go mad trying so hard to find the notes to make the beautiful chord and make the bastards fall with lumps in their throats Poor little muse cut from a paper fading fast as our lives taper your edges are curled you've lost your heart shape my hair's gone gray there was no escape Red hearts are red black heart is true inviolate, noble and new my body was tired so much for passion bye bye Valentine Anna McGarrigle Kinda sad but sweet and sad can be such a Valentine's feeling - i think NP: Polly Paulusma: Carry me home Love from Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:57:14 +0100 From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: NJC Another Valentine Since Patti is celebrating her fifth years anniversary on the JMDL and I celebrate four years on the very same list- I take liberty to share yet another Valentines poem. This poem has a special meaning for me. We analyzed in my english class in high-school Some years later I happened to fall in love with this very sexy but very immature boy at my school and I sent him this poem ! Well Queen Lucy; I guess you can see why my lovelife has has been such a disaster... The whole thing of course freaked him totally out And even more when he understood that the sender was another boy. I avoided him for almost two years Before I finally got the nerve to tell him he should really take it as a compliment. Well, he should, shouldn't he.. I'm sure he's gay, but probably still in denial. Now this poem is perhaps not very suited to show your love for anything else than great poetry. But it's worth a read And you're welcome to laugh out loud,too please do Best and love from Oddmund Valentine by Carol Ann Duffy Not a red rose or a satin heart. I give you an onion. It is a moon wrapped in brown paper. It promises light like the careful undressing of love. Here. It will blind you with tears like a lover. It will make your reflection a wobbling photo of grief. I am trying to be truthful. Not a cute card or a kissogram. I give you an onion. Its fierce kiss will stay on your lips, possessive and faithful as we are, for as long as we are. Take it. Its platinum loops shrink to a wedding-ring, if you like. Lethal. Its scent will cling to your fingers, cling to your knife. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:14:53 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2009 #50 That's quite a mix there Dev. I guess the same is true of many people on JMDL. What about yourself? Joni and what else? Is that Deathcab for Cutie your daughter is listening to? I don't really know how to define emo, but deathcab for cutie are certainly not emo in my opinion, at least, they don't seem to come with the trappings of the image, more indie rock i'd say (maybe this is a silly distinction, i don't know) and they rock. They are excellent creators of sound. Skilled in the lyrics department too. Prolific and varied when you consider side projects, such as the Postal Service. Maybe it's not the same band. Deathcab for Cutie are a band i'd recommend to others very easily. I saw Regina Spektor a few years back, not long before she released Begin to Hope. It was a great gig. the venue suited her style, she engaged with the audience, and her voice, my my, her live singing was so much more interesting than her recorded music (which i like). GARRET NP - Bob Dylan, things have changed On 2/14/09, Dev Swanson wrote: > > RE: What kids are listening to... > I've got a 22 yr old college senior who listens to 60's & 70's--Stones, > Zep, > Hendrix, Pink Floyd, as well as Irish bands like Flogging Molly, anime > tracks like Seatbelts, jazz of Coltrane and Davis, singer/writers like Ben > Folds, and current groups such as Gorillaz and Reel Big Fish. He also > collects vinyl. Lots of vinyl. > > My 17 yr old daughter likes mostly emo crap like Deathcab, but also digs > JONI! We went to a smashing Regina Spektor concert on mom's day a couple > years back, so I have hope her taste will improve. > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, JMDL Digest >wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:21:13 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: NJC McGarrigles and Valentine Hiya Oddmund, I can't believe you're on the list four years. I got my hands on Kate and Anna's first album, loving it. I'll keep you posted. I'm still waiting for Love over and over. I see you're listening to Polly Paulusma. I like her. I saw a really odd gig she did a few years ago. I think she should be more widely known. GARRET On 2/14/09, Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > > So I treated myself with Kate and Anna McGarrigle's "Love over and over" - > Valentine's and everything > > And there I found a song - from the very year I was born > So I thought I should share the lyrics with you loves > > St.Valentines Day 1978 > > Red running shoes with crumbling soles > clashes with pink pearls 'round my love, wanton soul > my body was attired in jute, jean and satin > I waited for Valentine > > The day passed quickly > it was soon afternoon > not long to wait for a chance to swoon > at my door there came a knock > left a smudge for a mark > he was gone but he gave me his black heart > > Black heart tied with a ribbon narrow > now thoroughly framed hangs from the piano > to the right just a bit above my middle C > and might as well be inside of me > > Red hearts are red > black heart is true > inviolate, noble and new > the one who must free you is frequently blue > and can't find the key and has no clue > > If I never found these > would it be so bad > you'd gather dust and I'd go mad > trying so hard to find the notes > to make the beautiful chord > and make the bastards fall > with lumps in their throats > > Poor little muse cut from a paper > fading fast as our lives taper > your edges are curled > you've lost your heart shape > my hair's gone gray > > there was no escape > > Red hearts are red > black heart is true > inviolate, noble and new > my body was tired so much for passion > bye bye Valentine > > Anna McGarrigle > > Kinda sad > but sweet and sad can be such a Valentine's feeling - i think > > NP: Polly Paulusma: Carry me home > > Love from > Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:46:45 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: NJC, Smurf he comes for conversation, he comforts me sometimes Bob wrote: Like all of us that knew him, I have been thinking about Bob all week. Among all the things that has been said about him, I haven't heard anyone mentioned his photography. He loved taking pictures and loading them onto his ipod, and sometimes he would take a series of photos and then using the scan feature on the ipod make a little movie with them. It was a very original and fascinating art form that I had not seen before or since. I recall specifically a series he took of his Mom... Hi Bob, One of my most favorite memories with Bob is when we were sitting at a table in the dining room of the Full Moon and he showed me photos on his camera that he took of his mom. They were very heart warming. I remember him telling me she had Alzheimer's disease. I loved the way he dressed her up and the angles of the photographs he took. He had a fun loving spirit even in the midst of tragedy. I thought the world of him at that moment. I also remember him telling me about borrowing the dress he wore during his skit at the fest. The zebra dress. I'm laughing now as I remember him telling me about his coworker's response and helpfulness. He said that was the first time he performed in drag like that, but I thought he looked so comfortable in the role that he must have had lots of practice. But he said it was his premiere act. I found it hard to believe. I think it is neat you and he drove to the fest together from Boston. That was such a good idea for you to fly there, to go the extra mile so to speak, and make the connection with him rather than just meet at the fest. I remember your email when you were making plans asking about meeting somewhere and driving with another JMDLer. I thought it was such a good idea and was glad you posted it. That fest I flew to near where Marianne and her sister Annette live and visited them for a short time before Catherine drove down from Toronto and met me at Annette's and we rode together to Oliverea. These kinds of connections are priceless. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:57:00 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Music that the kids like - vljc Wow - I think your son and mine might get along. They like mostly the same stuff. I like "Deathcab for Cutie," and my son sort of does, but my daughter can't stand them. Neither of them is into Joni. Yet. - --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Dev Swanson wrote: RE: What kids are listening to... I've got a 22 yr old college senior who listens to 60's & 70's--Stones, Zep, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, as well as Irish bands like Flogging Molly, anime tracks like Seatbelts, jazz of Coltrane and Davis, singer/writers like Ben Folds, and current groups such as Gorillaz and Reel Big Fish. He also collects vinyl. Lots of vinyl. My 17 yr old daughter likes mostly emo crap like Deathcab, but also digs JONI! We went to a smashing Regina Spektor concert on mom's day a couple years back, so I have hope her taste will improve. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:13:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC English Folk Music Just stumbled on this site and thought that those of you who are into this sort of thing would enjoy if you weren't already aware of it: http://www.english-music.co.uk/ Bob NP: Del Castillo, "Mexican Lounge Lizard" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:17:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Upcoming Joni Tribute in Melbourne (Australia, not Florida) http://tinyurl.com/ck25en Bob NP: Del Castillo, "El Camino Menos Transitado" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:38:57 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: TV Alert: Graham Nash tonight Terra is shining as she reels me in with this one: Maybe we should start a poll: Who would you most like to see having a wide-ranging conversation with Joni? Not having spent much time thinking about this, I'll just say Dick Cavett off the top of my head. Anyone? **** Well, because it is Saturday morning (TIC! Morgantown, buy your dreams a dollar down...), I have time on my hands, no childs to raise, and no one calling me up for favors, no one's future to decide, so I'll chime in. At first I thought seriously, then I got silly. Sunny day, looking for laughter and finding it there: How about JONI interviewing Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly? (Two of the WORST PERSONS IN THE W O R L D! LOL...) Man, she'd aim the hoses on 'em and slap 'em upside a da head a few times. (And you know two heads are better than one.) It would be a hoot. Bon weekend! Oh, yeah, and out-of-the-fire-like-Catholic St. Valentin's Day, too. (Help me! I'm posting and I can't shut up!) You like roses and kisses and pretty men? Or a pretty girl in your bathroom? Whatever you wish, my dears. (Hey! Now where in the world is Emiliano? Sometimes this list seems like only a river of changing faces, looking for an ocean. Hola, dear, and abrazos, wherever you are!) xo, pp, who had a pleasant dreamland the other night, sleeping on the pillows of her Willylust "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_02200 9 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:13:58 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Muzak declares bankruptcy, njc Muzak has declared bankruptcy. Create your own punchline. http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2009/02/10/its-time-to-face-the-muzak/ Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:19:19 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: The Screaming of Summer Lawns, and then the flight to Buffalo I'm so glad you wrote, Mark! I've been worried about you all down under. (I worry sometimes.) I've been sending up prayers and even, fwiw, joined a FB cause (there's a wide world of noble causes). 2009 Vic Bushfires or something like that. Thank you for the both sides now account. Shadows and light. Good on Obama for being the first to call! Makes my heart sing. I'll continue to send up my prayers. There's another tragedy we can't just drive by. The plane crash in Buffalo. Can we shuffle off to Buffalo? I was really hoping that today's digest would hold a message from Jerry, assuring us that none of his friends or kin were harmed. (I seem to recall, with all the Tim Russert talk in June, that Jerry went to school w/ him in or around Buffalo.) Jerry, I hope you didn't know any of these people. One of the women killed in the crash was an 9/11 truth activist. Her husband was killed in the World Trade Center. She has just met Obama. She was from Stamford, CT. My old hometown. With love and good vibrations, Patti P. My feeling is that there is nothing in life but refraining from hurting others, and comforting those that are sad. Olive Schreiner "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:12:26 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Muzak declares bankruptcy, njc OK, I'll play. ... You mean in the financial sense? Wondering if I'll be accused of being narrow-minded for dissing Muzak... - --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: From: Jim L'Hommedieu Subject: Muzak declares bankruptcy, njc To: ndakota@wyso.org, joni@smoe.org Received: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 12:13 PM Muzak has declared bankruptcy. Create your own punchline. http://blogs.wsj.com/bankruptcy/2009/02/10/its-time-to-face-the-muzak/ Jim L. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:04:04 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: more slogan than substance Thanks Marion. I've no problem with somebody not finding 'Shine''s lyrics to be the most profound, but to imply that Yeats's and Kipling's politics invalidate appreciation of some of their poems is sheer stupidity. The dismissal of the 'Frankenstein technologies' lyric is shallow, too: I'm not sure those technologies are being condemned, the message seems to be that we'll need a hell of a lot of wisdom to steer our way through them. Hi to all. Mich. _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:31:15 -0500 From: Gerald Notaro Subject: Re: The Screaming of Summer Lawns, and then the flight to Buffalo All my kin are safe, but my sister's best friend of 40 years lost her husband in a car crash the very same day. She flew there today from here in Florida to be with her. Very tragic. He was only 55. On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > I'm so glad you wrote, Mark! I've been worried about you all down under. > (I > worry sometimes.) > > I've been sending up prayers and even, fwiw, joined a FB cause (there's a > wide > world of noble causes). 2009 Vic Bushfires or something like that. > Thank you for the both sides now account. Shadows and light. Good on > Obama > for being the first to call! Makes my heart sing. I'll continue to send > up > my prayers. > > There's another tragedy we can't just drive by. The plane crash in > Buffalo. > Can we shuffle off to Buffalo? I was really hoping that today's digest > would hold a message from Jerry, assuring us that none of his friends or > kin > were harmed. (I seem to recall, with all the Tim Russert talk in June, > that Jerry went to school w/ him in or around Buffalo.) Jerry, I hope you > didn't know any of these people. > One of the women killed in the crash was an 9/11 truth activist. Her > husband > was killed in the World Trade Center. > She has just met Obama. She was from Stamford, CT. My old hometown. > > With love and good vibrations, > > Patti P. > > My feeling is that there is nothing in life but refraining from hurting > others, and comforting those that are sad. Olive Schreiner > > "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd > be > peace." > -- John Lennon > > http://www.imaginepeace.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 > - -- Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:26:38 -0600 From: Subject: NJC: SueMac, Jerry SueMac: happy, happy birthday, if another lister's memory is correct! Drop me a line if you have a moment: it's been too long. And Jerry, I've thought of you since I first learned of the plane crash in Buffalo early Friday morning. I'm hoping that no one you knew was on the flight. On the other hand, all the victims were known, and loved, by someone, and I'm "sending up my prayer" for those survivors today. Take care, all, Mary P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:39:48 -0800 (PST) From: Willie Yanock Subject: Valentine's Day I just want to profess my love for Joni. I know there has been many lover boys in her life and they all have given her gold and diamonds but I'm dirt poor all I have are my words. When she took my hand I felt as if I could ascend into heaven and when I kissed her my heart was sealed forever. Now that I'm old and dying every minute of my life I just think of that night lost in Time. Those that read this remember love is never forgotten and I know someday I'll be able to tell her again how much I love her. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:35:47 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: The Screaming of Summer Lawns, and then the flight to Buffalo NOW NJC Jerry wrote: All my kin are safe, but my sister's best friend of 40 years lost her husband in a car crash the very same day. She flew there today from here in Florida to be with her. Very tragic. He was only 55. **** Good opening (phew!), and then "Oh, no!" You just never know, do you? What a shock. I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm sending up lots of prayers to Buffalo where there is so much sorrow in one little area, and of course, over to Australia, too. xo, pp, heading off for my weekly visit with 101 year-old Edna. Go figure. She's nearly TWICE the age of your sister's friend, and a few (or many!) of us here. NPIMH: Shower the People "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_02200 9 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Music that the kids like - vljc Catherine wrote : Neither of them is into Joni. Yet. >>> I love Joni. Adopt me! Rian PS. Mama? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:30:26 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: two grey rooms help - njc? Can anyone help Kathy? - -----Original Message----- I would LOVE to get the sheet music for "Two Gray Rooms," my favorite Joni song and my latest obsession. I can't find it anywhere. Please help. Name: Kathy Nevils email: knevils@austin.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:33:15 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: NJC, Ballad for Cindy Sheehan: A Valentine for Smurf WARNING: emotional content (political, too, and rather long): Bon St. Valentin's, Joniami(e)s! I just discovered this song yesterday on Cindy's FB profile. I guess it's been out a whole year and I can't believe I haven't seen it before. It's just another New York band, with Irish affections (Hi Garret!). It's very moving, so all you peaceniks out there grab some tissues. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQiRJFlEhDA Doesn't it break your heart, and inspire you at the same time? Her face has grief etched on it, twice. That was my impression the first time I met her. She is very, very serious. And now, here is the Smurf connection: a rich exchange (seems to me) we had in December 2005 (and I'm sorry if the format comes out all ooby shooby again...it looks fine on my screen...Moni can you help me with that?): > She went to Crawford Texas in August, all by > herself, camped out on the land > trying to set her soul free, slept in a ditch with > fire ants and chiggers > and who knows what else, just to get a chance to ask > George W. Bush what > "noble cause" her precious son Casey died for. With the war and the wacky weather and broken bones and all that's wrong with life lately, I've been feeling a little bit hopeless about the future of the human race, Patti. But the rare people like you and Cindy Sheehan give me hope that sanity and love may prevail, and that the children of our planet will someday inherit a world worth living in. Favor? If you get a chance to have your photograph taken with Cindy, please do so and send me a copy. I know it would give my heart a lift -- and hope -- every time I looked at it. I think it was only a matter of time before you and Cindy met, Patti, because as you know -- two heads are better than one! - --Smurf ******************************* I *did* get the picture for him (and *thanks* to him, because I never would have thought of it), and then another one in early January this year. (Two picture are better than one.) I considered it his "New Year's Cookie." "What?", you ask? What the hell is she talking about NOW? Okay, I'll 'splain the idiomatic logic. "In the cookie I read...." My best Christmas present came on Dec. 26th. My cellphone was ringing in my purse. I was in the middle of something, and usually in that case I just ignore it. But not this time, for some reason. When I saw the name "SMURF" on the screen my heart flipped. I only know it did! I answered as bright as a neon light: "BOBBY!!!! I LOVE YOU!" and he, quick-witted as ever (but with a very weak and strained voice), said: "Have you been drinking?" Laughing it all away, I said: "NO! I'm eating a Christmas cookie and drinking skimmed milk!" That's when he said he wanted a "New Year's Cookie." Jody/BG, thanks so much for telling me that the photo was on his iPhone. He always sent a valentine in the mail (still no letter's been delivered, still the winter days unfold), so I miss him especially today. And I know I'm not alone in that. Our funny valentine Sweet comic valentine You make us smile With our hearts. Smurf love & he-pins-me-in-a-corner-and-he-won't-take-no hugs to you all, Patti P. P.S. Oh! One more thing, for Jody Girl/BG. I was in the grocery store today and a woman tapped me on the shoulder and asked where I got my pin. It's the same one I was wearing that rainbow connection day with you and Smurf. (It's a peace sign that says: Pro-soldier, Pro-peace.) Remember the lady with the little girl who stopped us leaving the People's Park (on our way to the pizza place, where you and Bobby put a quarter in the jukebox to play Beatles' "Revolution" while I was in the cold-water restroom...although you accused ME of doing it?) who asked where she could get a pin like this? I remember Bob just standing there, grinning. Like a proud Papa Smurf. I told him: "See what happens from just wearing a little pin? You can wage peace!" He just laughed and said: "You're a real peace of work, PP." Shirley YU are the real peace of work, Robert G. Murphy. Be at peace, and know we love you. "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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