From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #29 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 27 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 029 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- American Idol Connection - NJC ["Cassy" ] Re: American Idol Connection - NJC ["Cassy" ] Little Green [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - Sadly NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - Sadly NJC [Jamie Zub] Re: Little Green [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC [Rian Afriadi] SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC ["Marion Leff] Re: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC [Rian Afr] Re: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC [Michael ] which 3 tracks from HOSL [Robert Procyk ] SV: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC ["Marion ] Re: Which 3 tracks from THOSL? [Bryan ] Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet ["Laurie Fuhr" ] RE: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet ["Laurie Fuhr" Subject: American Idol Connection - NJC So I had my nails done today, it's the one thing I do for myself regularly because having nice hands feels good to me. The man who does my nails had a guitar sitting behind him and I asked him if he played. He told me he's learning and I asked him if he sings too, he sadly shook his head no. The woman sitting in the chair next to me got interested in our conversation and told me her daughter just made it to the Hollywood phase of American Idol; her name is Aubrey Logan. I asked if she made it to the finals and she told me she had to sign a confidentiality agreement and couldn't say but that her daughter had done "very well." I will be watching to see if Aubrey does, in fact, make it to the finals. Interestingly she's a jazz singer, age 20 and I found a little clip of her on youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZSrHY7Qwho There are a couple of rough spots in the video but overall I was happy to see such a young woman taking an interest in jazz. Mrs. Logan, her mother, is a schoolteacher here in my neighborhood and we do run into each other fairly regularly at the nail salon, I'm excited for her. Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:26:19 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: American Idol Connection - NJC One more interesting video of Aubrey Logan singing at a jazz festival when she was in high school, I think she's very talented. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitqgZvmSls&feature=related Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:42:52 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Little Green When someone asks me what my favorite Joni songs are, or when we do our various favorite top lists or whatever, Little Green never makes it for me - - BUT everytime I hear the song, whether by Joni or a cover, it tears my heart out and I am reminded just what a beautiful song it is. Not just because of the lyrical content, but even just the melody. It is truly beautiful, and could easily serve as "exhibit A" if you were trying to convince someone of Joni's songwriting prowess and her legacy. It might be because I was a latecomer to Blue in general (the late 80's) that I don't think of LG as one of Joni's best songs, but it is. I will remember this the next time I'm asked what my favorite Joni songs are. By the way, the version I was listening to this AM was a wonderful newly-released cover by Alicia Wiley. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)" (listening to all Bruce today to celebrate his new release) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Bob Dylan by Bob Dylan 9. Kill 'Em All by Metallica 10. Funeral by Arcade Fire 11. Reasonable Doubt by Jay-Z 12. The Smiths by The Smiths 13. Grace by Jeff Buckley 14. My Aim Is True by Elvis Costello 15. Horses by Patti Smith 16. Here Come The Warm Jets by Brian Eno 17. Elvis Presley by Elvis Presley 18. Appetite For Destruction [Explicit] by Guns N' Roses 19. The Who Sings My Generation by The Who 20. Movement [Collector's Edition] by New Order 21. Slanted & Enchanted by Pavement 22. Catch A Fire by Bob Marley 23. The College Dropout [Explicit] by Kanye West 24. Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J. by Bruce Springsteen 25. England's Newest Hitmakers by The Rolling Stones 26. Pablo Honey [Explicit] by Radiohead 27. Murmur by R.E.M. 28. Talking Heads 77 by Talking Heads 29. Coltrane by John Coltrane 30. Ten by Pearl Jam 31. Paid In Full by Eric B. & Rakim 32. The Doors [40th Anniversary Mixes] by The Doors 33. Are You Experienced by Jimi Hendrix 34. Ready To Die The Remaster [Expli by The Notorious B.I.G. 35. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill by Lauryn Hill 36. Van Halen by Van Halen 37. The Chirping Crickets by Buddy Holly 38. The Clash (UK Version) by The Clash 39. Enter The Wu-Tang by Wu-Tang Clan 40. Licensed To Ill by Beastie Boys 41. Nevermind The Bollocks, Here's T by Sex Pistols 42. Madonna (Bonus Tracks) by Madonna 43. The Chronic [Explicit] by Dr. Dre 44. Doggystyle [Explicit] by Snoop Doggy Dogg 45. A Pesar De Todo by Vicente Fernandez 46. Peoples' Instinctive Travels & t by A Tribe Called Quest 47. Illmatic [Explicit] by Nas 48. Marquee Moon by Television 49. Pink Flag by Wire 50. Exile In Guyville by Liz Phair 51. The Modern Lovers by The Modern Lovers 52. Five Leaves Left by Nick Drake 53. Parachutes by Coldplay 54. Entertainment! by Gang Of Four 55. Come Away With Me by Norah Jones 56. Dummy by Portishead 57. Gish by The Smashing Pumpkins 58. Music From Big Pink by The Band 59. The Stooges [Deluxe Edition] by The Stooges 60. Pretenders [Reissue] by The Pretenders 61. Santana by Santana 62. Creedence Clearwater Revival by Creedence Clearwater Revival 63. Dreamboat Annie by Heart 64. New York Dolls by The New York Dolls 65. Outlandos D'Amour by Police 66. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers by Tom Petty & The Heart Breakers 67. Rage Against The Machine [Explicit] by Rage Against The Machine 68. Brown Sugar [Explicit] by D'Angelo 69. Funkadelic by Funkadelic 70. RUN-DMC by RUN-DMC 71. Fleet Foxes by Fleet Foxes 72. Give Up by The Postal Service 73. Incognegro [Explicit] by Ludacris 74. Calle 13 (Explicit Version) by Calle 13 75. Alejandro Fernandez by Alejandro Fernandez 76. Get Rich Or Die Tryin by 50 Cent 77. Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc., Etc. by Dwight Yoakam 78. Superfuzz Bigmuff: Deluxe Edition by Mudhoney 79. Falta amor by Mana 80. Lee Ann Womack by Lee Ann Womack 81. Takin' Off (Rudy Van Gelder Edit by Herbie Hancock 82. Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers by Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers 83. Is This It by The Strokes 84. Weezer by Weezer 85. Little Earthquakes by Tori Amos 86. Violent Femmes: Deluxe Edition by Violent Femmes 87. Blue Lines by Massive Attack 88. The B-52's by The B-52's 89. Monster Movie by Can 90. Confusion Is Sex by Sonic Youth 91. Debut by Bjork 92. Storms Of Life by Randy Travis 93. Viva Hate by Morrissey 94. (Pronounced 'Leh-'Nird 'Skin-'Nird) by Lynyrd Skynyrd 95. Oh, Inverted World by The Shins 96. Roxy Music by Roxy Music 97. Homework by Daft Punk 98. Diamond Life by Sade 99. CooleyHighHarmony by Boyz II Men 100. #1 Record/Radio City by Big Star ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:03:37 +0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - Sadly NJC 2009/1/27 Jerry Notaro > Let the discussion begin... > > 1. Boy by U2 > 2. Birth Of The Cool (Rudy Van Geld > by Miles Davis > 3. The Velvet Underground & Nico by The Velvet Underground > 4. Led Zeppelin by Led Ze.... They should do a 'Difficult Third Album' category. I think it's where Joni really hits her stride before sweeping away the competition with the 'This Artist Should've Been Put On The Heap By Now But Has Come Up With An Amazing Album' category. - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:51:13 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Little Green Little Green is one of the very first songs that made me turn to Joni. The first was A Case of You (of course, like everybody else). At first, I didn't get the meaning of the song. English is not my first language, so just like most people whose first language is not english, we tend to "view" a song from the melody first, and if we like it, then the lyric. I got the meaning of what Little Green was after I joined JMDL (and browsed jmdl.com a lot). Anyway, is there any other song in this world about the feeling of a mother who gave up her baby that is a good as Joni's Little Green? No? Rian NP. Trine-Lise Vaering (recommended by Bene), and I'd like to recommended her to you all too. She reminds me of Trina on LoTC :-). But she mostly sings in danish. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:09:02 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC I'm gonna make this Joni Content because I'll talk about STAS. Well, I'm not very surprised that STAS wasn't included on the list. Joni's first breakthrough was not made by her first album. Surely STAS is good. But not that great. Clouds? Nope. The album has Both Sides Now and Chelsea Morning, but that album was not a breakthrough. Ladies of The Canyon was her first breakthrough. All songs on that album are great, there's no weak track, and they are bonded by a theme "songs made by a lady from a canyon in california". If Joni's first album was LOTC, then she'll be on the list. Regret to say, but STAS was not strong enough. Rian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:27:47 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC Well, it depends on what you mean by breakthrough, or rather what critera have to be met for a record to be considered a breakthrough. I can think of lots of albums that have been commercial successes for the artist(s) in question even though I did not think them that great. As for Ladies of the Canyon, to me that is the weakest album of the three you mentioned, so here we are with different opinions already!:-) I don't think any of Joni's albums - with the one exception of CAS - could be considered a breakthrough in any commercial sense. But there has always been a large crowd who appreciated her albums. Not large enough to put her on Amazon's list, obviously, but who really cares? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Rian Afriadi Skickat: den 27 januari 2009 15:09 Till: jonipeople Dmne: Re: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC I'm gonna make this Joni Content because I'll talk about STAS. Well, I'm not very surprised that STAS wasn't included on the list. Joni's first breakthrough was not made by her first album. Surely STAS is good. But not that great. Clouds? Nope. The album has Both Sides Now and Chelsea Morning, but that album was not a breakthrough. Ladies of The Canyon was her first breakthrough. All songs on that album are great, there's no weak track, and they are bonded by a theme "songs made by a lady from a canyon in california". If Joni's first album was LOTC, then she'll be on the list. Regret to say, but STAS was not strong enough. Rian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC So, me and Marion may be disagree on the status of LOTC, but I guess I agree with her latest sentence : "Who really cares?" What I meant with breakthrough was not commercially, but rather "accepted by critics". Clouds won a Grammy, but I guess most people here can sense something missing on that album. Cohesion maybe? Rian A Proud Supporter of Ladies of The Canyon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:03:00 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC Does a breakthrough have to be a debut? It seems to me that Blue, C&S, and HOSL were all breakthroughs at a time when Joni was growing by leaps and bounds. If we're talking popularity, then it's probably true that Joni didn't "breakthrough". It was more of a gradual thing. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:00 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: which 3 tracks from HOSL I would pick: "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" - you can't NOT pick it.... "Sweet Bird" - quickly becoming my favorite track on the album, although I have no idea what it means. Every winter I seem to listen to it on repeat a lot - I am not sure why, but it's one of those songs I just connect with at a certain time of year, if that makes any sense. I remember the Sweet Bird thread 10 or so years ago. I started to feel like the hillbilly who went to Harvard or something, as I had no idea what the hell anyone was talking about, but I love the song nevertheless. As much as I'd rather choose "The Boho Dance", I'd say "Harry's House" should be there because it's basically the centre of the album - it's what defines the Cheever-esque theme of the whole thing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:23:38 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC Oh come now, Rian, you obviously care:-) I dont miss anything on Clouds and find it at least as cohesive as LOTC. Are we in a feisty mood today?:-) Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Rian Afriadi Skickat: den 27 januari 2009 15:40 Till: jonipeople Dmne: Re: SV: Amazon's 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time - now JC So, me and Marion may be disagree on the status of LOTC, but I guess I agree with her latest sentence : "Who really cares?" What I meant with breakthrough was not commercially, but rather "accepted by critics". Clouds won a Grammy, but I guess most people here can sense something missing on that album. Cohesion maybe? Rian A Proud Supporter of Ladies of The Canyon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:02:20 -0800 (PST) From: Bryan Subject: Re: Which 3 tracks from THOSL? Well, being a WYSO listener myself (here in snowy, funky Dayton, OH) I may have an advantage in helping here. Anyway, I would go with Edith (one of the best songs by anybody, ever); Sorrow; and THOSL. To me, those represent the album well and are good fits for WYSO.Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:23:04 -0700 From: "Laurie Fuhr" Subject: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Hi JMDListers, Just signed up for the list so I would like to introduce myself! My name is Laurie. I'm a songwriter, poet, I play upright bass in a rockabilly band, and I am managing editor for a lit arts magazine (www.fillingstation.ca ). I am also the receptionist at Alberta Ballet. Joni's on my mind a lot lately - I hear the music through the floor as our dancers practice and practice for The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet. I am excited to discover this listserv and talk to some other fans. I don't want to come off like a big commercial, because I'll be talking about the ballet and the CD and stuff, so I need to tell you right off that I was a huge Joni fan before I ever started working here!! Joni's writing has informed my own writing a lot, and I didn't realize Alberta Ballet had a Joni Mitchell ballet until I came on board. So it's been a thrill to play even a small part in such an amazing work of art and to meet Joni. I hope it's cool to share that experience with you because remembering it has been a source of pleasure for the past few months. At the Banff Centre for the Arts showcase of Fiddle in the fall, I thought I wasn't going to get to meet Joni. I saw her hanging out with the dancers at the post-reception, but I had no real reason to bother her, and couldn't think of anything special to say, so I didn't. I did shake her hand at one point when she was standing with Jean, our Artistic Director, outside the dining building, but that was all.. that was pretty exciting anyway! But I think I was shy partly because I've met my heroes before sometimes without good feelings after - I used to think Adam Duritz from Counting Crows was among the best songwriters ever, and at 17 I thought I was in love with him, silly girl that I was. I spent lots of time on the Counting Crows listserv talking about his songs and dreaming about meeting him. I learned to play guitar listening to August & Everything After. And I used to think someone who could create wise, heartfelt music absolutely had to be wise and heartfelt, but it isn't always the case; 2 out of 3 times I met Adam, he was generally unkind and sarcastic to the crowd around him behind a venue after a show, having no real wish to be there. I can't blame him entirely, fans act like weirdos at times.. but then again, I don't think he knew how to handle it compared with someone like Joni. Joni has no fear, she has poise and control.. plus fewer crazed females asking her to sign certain body parts probably helps! But I did get to meet Joni, and was completely stunned at how genuine she was. How calmly and easily she communicates with those around her. How she treats everyone like a normal human being, and elicits the same behavior in others towards her. And how many stories she tells, about musical friendships in the 60's, her insight into how it really was, and about her own music, religion and spirituality, everything she's been thinking of hard.. it just flows from her lips, and is always interesting and engaging. I finally met her later in the evening at Banff Centre. Joni came into the little campus pub and was looking to play pool, so I asked her to be my partner. What an amazing pool player Joni is!! Good thing I was on her team, not playing against her! When she sets up that LA rack, you're either on her side or you're in trouble. Thank you Joni for humouring me with a game, even though I seem to have lost all my Northern Alberta, smalltown, nothing-else-to-do-all-night pool skills! Joni tells a lot of stories when she's playing pool, so that was definitely worth the embarrassment of poor performance. (We won 4 out of 5 games anyway thanks to Joni!). Outside in the cold, having a cigarette, she mentioned too was that she's not completely happy with the music industry's treatment of its artists. I told her she should go independent like Radiohead, they did really well that way - but she told me that instead she was planning to sell her ballet soundtrack exclusively through Alberta Ballet. That blew my mind. Not sure if her people are going to allow this to happen, but if it does, she'll be lucky she's got a big fan working here, because I'll work extra hours if needed to get her music out to people who will love it! ('Shine' sold something like 60,000 copies though so I wonder what they'll do when a landslide of requests comes in!! I don't think I can handle mailing out 60,000 :-) ). So I wanted to tell my fellow fans, because I have a bit of an inside track here sometimes, that Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Soundtrack CDs have arrived here at the Alberta Ballet office, and they look and sound wonderful!! Lots of great stills from the ballet with Joni's visual art incorporated, and our beautiful dancers looking lit from within. The CDs will be sold at our upcoming Alberta performance dates in Calgary (February 26-28 09) and in Edmonton (February 20-21 09). If there are any left, it looks like I will be able to fill orders here at the office, but only if there are any left once the performances have taken place. Please don't write me for a copy yet - I'll be sure to let you know when I have the go ahead to fill mail orders. It is amazing to think I am one of the only people (aside from manufacturers) who has seen these CDs! We should be getting DVDs pretty soon too. If you haven't seen The Fiddle & The Drum yet, you will be absolutely amazed that ballet can be so gripping and thrilling. It was the first ballet I had ever seen, and now I'm hooked. What a great surprise to find out that the art I'm working for isn't sleepy at all. Again, the ballet is taking place in Alberta, here in Canada. It is touring to a few places in the States too, but I'm not sure where and when - I think it's still in the works. When I know that I'll pass it along too. Tickets can be found through Ticketmaster. Regardless of whether or not you get to see the ballet, I hope you will take the core messages of The Fiddle & The Drum ballet to heart - choose peace over war, respect and protect the earth, and slow down to experience the joy of life! Laurie Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:42:24 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Hi Laurie! Wow! is all I can say right now. And a warm welcome to the list. I hope you will be posting a lot. I will probably never get to see the ballet in real life performance, or do you think they might go on a world tour and visit Scandinavia? I have seen it on dvd, though, and absolutely love it. I am a ballet fan, anyway, love both classical and modern ballet. Your meeting with Joni and playing pool with her - how lucky you are, and how well you describe the mixed feelings at the prospect of talking to her. I'm sure that if I ever got the chance to speak to Joni I would let it go by, not knowing what to say to her. I would probably be fumbling deaf, dumb and blind, not at all the spirit that's inside of me. Again - welcome and keep posting! Marion in Sweden - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Laurie Fuhr Skickat: den 27 januari 2009 20:23 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Hi JMDListers, Just signed up for the list so I would like to introduce myself! My name is Laurie. I'm a songwriter, poet, I play upright bass in a rockabilly band, and I am managing editor for a lit arts magazine (www.fillingstation.ca ). I am also the receptionist at Alberta Ballet. Joni's on my mind a lot lately - I hear the music through the floor as our dancers practice and practice for The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet. I am excited to discover this listserv and talk to some other fans. I don't want to come off like a big commercial, because I'll be talking about the ballet and the CD and stuff, so I need to tell you right off that I was a huge Joni fan before I ever started working here!! Joni's writing has informed my own writing a lot, and I didn't realize Alberta Ballet had a Joni Mitchell ballet until I came on board. So it's been a thrill to play even a small part in such an amazing work of art and to meet Joni. I hope it's cool to share that experience with you because remembering it has been a source of pleasure for the past few months. At the Banff Centre for the Arts showcase of Fiddle in the fall, I thought I wasn't going to get to meet Joni. I saw her hanging out with the dancers at the post-reception, but I had no real reason to bother her, and couldn't think of anything special to say, so I didn't. I did shake her hand at one point when she was standing with Jean, our Artistic Director, outside the dining building, but that was all.. that was pretty exciting anyway! But I think I was shy partly because I've met my heroes before sometimes without good feelings after - I used to think Adam Duritz from Counting Crows was among the best songwriters ever, and at 17 I thought I was in love with him, silly girl that I was. I spent lots of time on the Counting Crows listserv talking about his songs and dreaming about meeting him. I learned to play guitar listening to August & Everything After. And I used to think someone who could create wise, heartfelt music absolutely had to be wise and heartfelt, but it isn't always the case; 2 out of 3 times I met Adam, he was generally unkind and sarcastic to the crowd around him behind a venue after a show, having no real wish to be there. I can't blame him entirely, fans act like weirdos at times.. but then again, I don't think he knew how to handle it compared with someone like Joni. Joni has no fear, she has poise and control.. plus fewer crazed females asking her to sign certain body parts probably helps! But I did get to meet Joni, and was completely stunned at how genuine she was. How calmly and easily she communicates with those around her. How she treats everyone like a normal human being, and elicits the same behavior in others towards her. And how many stories she tells, about musical friendships in the 60's, her insight into how it really was, and about her own music, religion and spirituality, everything she's been thinking of hard.. it just flows from her lips, and is always interesting and engaging. I finally met her later in the evening at Banff Centre. Joni came into the little campus pub and was looking to play pool, so I asked her to be my partner. What an amazing pool player Joni is!! Good thing I was on her team, not playing against her! When she sets up that LA rack, you're either on her side or you're in trouble. Thank you Joni for humouring me with a game, even though I seem to have lost all my Northern Alberta, smalltown, nothing-else-to-do-all-night pool skills! Joni tells a lot of stories when she's playing pool, so that was definitely worth the embarrassment of poor performance. (We won 4 out of 5 games anyway thanks to Joni!). Outside in the cold, having a cigarette, she mentioned too was that she's not completely happy with the music industry's treatment of its artists. I told her she should go independent like Radiohead, they did really well that way - but she told me that instead she was planning to sell her ballet soundtrack exclusively through Alberta Ballet. That blew my mind. Not sure if her people are going to allow this to happen, but if it does, she'll be lucky she's got a big fan working here, because I'll work extra hours if needed to get her music out to people who will love it! ('Shine' sold something like 60,000 copies though so I wonder what they'll do when a landslide of requests comes in!! I don't think I can handle mailing out 60,000 :-) ). So I wanted to tell my fellow fans, because I have a bit of an inside track here sometimes, that Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Soundtrack CDs have arrived here at the Alberta Ballet office, and they look and sound wonderful!! Lots of great stills from the ballet with Joni's visual art incorporated, and our beautiful dancers looking lit from within. The CDs will be sold at our upcoming Alberta performance dates in Calgary (February 26-28 09) and in Edmonton (February 20-21 09). If there are any left, it looks like I will be able to fill orders here at the office, but only if there are any left once the performances have taken place. Please don't write me for a copy yet - I'll be sure to let you know when I have the go ahead to fill mail orders. It is amazing to think I am one of the only people (aside from manufacturers) who has seen these CDs! We should be getting DVDs pretty soon too. If you haven't seen The Fiddle & The Drum yet, you will be absolutely amazed that ballet can be so gripping and thrilling. It was the first ballet I had ever seen, and now I'm hooked. What a great surprise to find out that the art I'm working for isn't sleepy at all. Again, the ballet is taking place in Alberta, here in Canada. It is touring to a few places in the States too, but I'm not sure where and when - I think it's still in the works. When I know that I'll pass it along too. Tickets can be found through Ticketmaster. Regardless of whether or not you get to see the ballet, I hope you will take the core messages of The Fiddle & The Drum ballet to heart - choose peace over war, respect and protect the earth, and slow down to experience the joy of life! Laurie Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:54:34 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Man oh man, Laurie - what an introduction! I don't know how many "OMG's" went through my mind while I was reading it, but suffice to say that your experiences are pretty incredible, and of course as a Joni fan I'm SO happy for you. I too have had the distinct pleasure of meeting her and talking to her so I can relate to what you say about her being accessible and of course Miss Blabby. And I LOVED that you got to shoot pool with her! I think that's a first for anyone on the list. I have seen a bootleg of the Bravo broadcast of the ballet but have yet to see it in person - hope to some day. Question - the CD's that you have...that's the studio recordings that the dancers are dancing to, right? Or am I missing something? Anyway, a big big welcome to you and I'll be waiting to hear about your next encounters with Joni as well as any thoughts you have along the way. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Johnny 99" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I'm a songwriter, poet, I play upright bass in a rockabilly band, and I am managing editor for a lit arts magazine (www.fillingstation.ca ). I am also the receptionist at Alberta Ballet. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: THOSL I want to share a very special evening I had many years ago. When THOSL was one day from release, it was announced on a radio station I listened to a lot (can you believe I don't remember the name of that station?) that without interruption, the new Joni Mitchell album would be aired..of course it was THOSL. That year I was living in a 25 story apartment house in center city Philly...I was on the 18TH floor. From the time I heard this announcement until the night the new album was aired I was a bundle of joy, happiness and anticipation. I didn't want to share this experience with anyone. I wanted to be alone. I sat on the floor with my little radio. Finally the top of the hour arrived...a few moments of silence and I listened eagerly to the first track, "In France They Kiss On Main Street". As with each of Joni's albums I was instantly mesmerized. When I listen to most new albums, I usually have to hear it a few times before I know whether I like it or not. This has never been the case with Joni. As the final track ended, I was in such awe. Joni had made a departure from her other magnificent works. I can't remember what adjectives I used to describe THOSL way back when and I had few friends to share my reactions and thoughts. My three favorites? Edith In France They Kiss On Main Street Shades of Scarlett Conquering I sure wish I could remember what my three favorite songs were after I first heard this magnificent album. Bo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:20:22 -0700 From: "Laurie Fuhr" Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Thanks Michael. We should plan a Canadian Jonifest too, if there's enough of us! Any listers in Western Canada? Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com ________________________________ From: Michael Paz [mailto:michael@thepazgroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:42 PM To: Laurie Fuhr Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Hi Laurie Welcome to the list! What a great story! Thanks for sharing it with us. I love the fact that you got to play pool with her. Better you than me cause I really suck at pool. I hope you enjoy your time with us. We need more musicians on this list. Hopefully you will get to enjoy a Jonifest gathering with us. Two are in the planning. One in So. California and one down under. You can see some of the past antics on the JMDL website. Best Paz in New Orleans Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jan 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Laurie Fuhr wrote: Hi JMDListers, Just signed up for the list so I would like to introduce myself! My name is Laurie. I'm a songwriter, poet, I play upright bass in a rockabilly band, and I am managing editor for a lit arts magazine (www.fillingstation.ca ). I am also the receptionist at Alberta Ballet. Joni's on my mind a lot lately - I hear the music through the floor as our dancers practice and practice for The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet. I am excited to discover this listserv and talk to some other fans. I don't want to come off like a big commercial, because I'll be talking about the ballet and the CD and stuff, so I need to tell you right off that I was a huge Joni fan before I ever started working here!! Joni's writing has informed my own writing a lot, and I didn't realize Alberta Ballet had a Joni Mitchell ballet until I came on board. So it's been a thrill to play even a small part in such an amazing work of art and to meet Joni. I hope it's cool to share that experience with you because remembering it has been a source of pleasure for the past few months. At the Banff Centre for the Arts showcase of Fiddle in the fall, I thought I wasn't going to get to meet Joni. I saw her hanging out with the dancers at the post-reception, but I had no real reason to bother her, and couldn't think of anything special to say, so I didn't. I did shake her hand at one point when she was standing with Jean, our Artistic Director, outside the dining building, but that was all.. that was pretty exciting anyway! But I think I was shy partly because I've met my heroes before sometimes without good feelings after - I used to think Adam Duritz from Counting Crows was among the best songwriters ever, and at 17 I thought I was in love with him, silly girl that I was. I spent lots of time on the Counting Crows listserv talking about his songs and dreaming about meeting him. I learned to play guitar listening to August & Everything After. And I used to think someone who could create wise, heartfelt music absolutely had to be wise and heartfelt, but it isn't always the case; 2 out of 3 times I met Adam, he was generally unkind and sarcastic to the crowd around him behind a venue after a show, having no real wish to be there. I can't blame him entirely, fans act like weirdos at times.. but then again, I don't think he knew how to handle it compared with someone like Joni. Joni has no fear, she has poise and control.. plus fewer crazed females asking her to sign certain body parts probably helps! But I did get to meet Joni, and was completely stunned at how genuine she was. How calmly and easily she communicates with those around her. How she treats everyone like a normal human being, and elicits the same behavior in others towards her. And how many stories she tells, about musical friendships in the 60's, her insight into how it really was, and about her own music, religion and spirituality, everything she's been thinking of hard.. it just flows from her lips, and is always interesting and engaging. I finally met her later in the evening at Banff Centre. Joni came into the little campus pub and was looking to play pool, so I asked her to be my partner. What an amazing pool player Joni is!! Good thing I was on her team, not playing against her! When she sets up that LA rack, you're either on her side or you're in trouble. Thank you Joni for humouring me with a game, even though I seem to have lost all my Northern Alberta, smalltown, nothing-else-to-do-all-night pool skills! Joni tells a lot of stories when she's playing pool, so that was definitely worth the embarrassment of poor performance. (We won 4 out of 5 games anyway thanks to Joni!). Outside in the cold, having a cigarette, she mentioned too was that she's not completely happy with the music industry's treatment of its artists. I told her she should go independent like Radiohead, they did really well that way - but she told me that instead she was planning to sell her ballet soundtrack exclusively through Alberta Ballet. That blew my mind. Not sure if her people are going to allow this to happen, but if it does, she'll be lucky she's got a big fan working here, because I'll work extra hours if needed to get her music out to people who will love it! ('Shine' sold something like 60,000 copies though so I wonder what they'll do when a landslide of requests comes in!! I don't think I can handle mailing out 60,000 :-) ). So I wanted to tell my fellow fans, because I have a bit of an inside track here sometimes, that Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Soundtrack CDs have arrived here at the Alberta Ballet office, and they look and sound wonderful!! Lots of great stills from the ballet with Joni's visual art incorporated, and our beautiful dancers looking lit from within. The CDs will be sold at our upcoming Alberta performance dates in Calgary (February 26-28 09) and in Edmonton (February 20-21 09). If there are any left, it looks like I will be able to fill orders here at the office, but only if there are any left once the performances have taken place. Please don't write me for a copy yet - I'll be sure to let you know when I have the go ahead to fill mail orders. It is amazing to think I am one of the only people (aside from manufacturers) who has seen these CDs! We should be getting DVDs pretty soon too. If you haven't seen The Fiddle & The Drum yet, you will be absolutely amazed that ballet can be so gripping and thrilling. It was the first ballet I had ever seen, and now I'm hooked. What a great surprise to find out that the art I'm working for isn't sleepy at all. Again, the ballet is taking place in Alberta, here in Canada. It is touring to a few places in the States too, but I'm not sure where and when - I think it's still in the works. When I know that I'll pass it along too. Tickets can be found through Ticketmaster. Regardless of whether or not you get to see the ballet, I hope you will take the core messages of The Fiddle & The Drum ballet to heart - choose peace over war, respect and protect the earth, and slow down to experience the joy of life! Laurie Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release Date: 01/27/09 07:26:00 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:42:14 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Hi Laurie Welcome to the list! What a great story! Thanks for sharing it with us. I love the fact that you got to play pool with her. Better you than me cause I really suck at pool. I hope you enjoy your time with us. We need more musicians on this list. Hopefully you will get to enjoy a Jonifest gathering with us. Two are in the planning. One in So. California and one down under. You can see some of the past antics on the JMDL website. Best Paz in New Orleans Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jan 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Laurie Fuhr wrote: Hi JMDListers, Just signed up for the list so I would like to introduce myself! My name is Laurie. I'm a songwriter, poet, I play upright bass in a rockabilly band, and I am managing editor for a lit arts magazine (www.fillingstation.ca ). I am also the receptionist at Alberta Ballet. Joni's on my mind a lot lately - I hear the music through the floor as our dancers practice and practice for The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet. I am excited to discover this listserv and talk to some other fans. I don't want to come off like a big commercial, because I'll be talking about the ballet and the CD and stuff, so I need to tell you right off that I was a huge Joni fan before I ever started working here!! Joni's writing has informed my own writing a lot, and I didn't realize Alberta Ballet had a Joni Mitchell ballet until I came on board. So it's been a thrill to play even a small part in such an amazing work of art and to meet Joni. I hope it's cool to share that experience with you because remembering it has been a source of pleasure for the past few months. At the Banff Centre for the Arts showcase of Fiddle in the fall, I thought I wasn't going to get to meet Joni. I saw her hanging out with the dancers at the post-reception, but I had no real reason to bother her, and couldn't think of anything special to say, so I didn't. I did shake her hand at one point when she was standing with Jean, our Artistic Director, outside the dining building, but that was all.. that was pretty exciting anyway! But I think I was shy partly because I've met my heroes before sometimes without good feelings after - I used to think Adam Duritz from Counting Crows was among the best songwriters ever, and at 17 I thought I was in love with him, silly girl that I was. I spent lots of time on the Counting Crows listserv talking about his songs and dreaming about meeting him. I learned to play guitar listening to August & Everything After. And I used to think someone who could create wise, heartfelt music absolutely had to be wise and heartfelt, but it isn't always the case; 2 out of 3 times I met Adam, he was generally unkind and sarcastic to the crowd around him behind a venue after a show, having no real wish to be there. I can't blame him entirely, fans act like weirdos at times.. but then again, I don't think he knew how to handle it compared with someone like Joni. Joni has no fear, she has poise and control.. plus fewer crazed females asking her to sign certain body parts probably helps! But I did get to meet Joni, and was completely stunned at how genuine she was. How calmly and easily she communicates with those around her. How she treats everyone like a normal human being, and elicits the same behavior in others towards her. And how many stories she tells, about musical friendships in the 60's, her insight into how it really was, and about her own music, religion and spirituality, everything she's been thinking of hard.. it just flows from her lips, and is always interesting and engaging. I finally met her later in the evening at Banff Centre. Joni came into the little campus pub and was looking to play pool, so I asked her to be my partner. What an amazing pool player Joni is!! Good thing I was on her team, not playing against her! When she sets up that LA rack, you're either on her side or you're in trouble. Thank you Joni for humouring me with a game, even though I seem to have lost all my Northern Alberta, smalltown, nothing-else-to-do-all-night pool skills! Joni tells a lot of stories when she's playing pool, so that was definitely worth the embarrassment of poor performance. (We won 4 out of 5 games anyway thanks to Joni!). Outside in the cold, having a cigarette, she mentioned too was that she's not completely happy with the music industry's treatment of its artists. I told her she should go independent like Radiohead, they did really well that way - but she told me that instead she was planning to sell her ballet soundtrack exclusively through Alberta Ballet. That blew my mind. Not sure if her people are going to allow this to happen, but if it does, she'll be lucky she's got a big fan working here, because I'll work extra hours if needed to get her music out to people who will love it! ('Shine' sold something like 60,000 copies though so I wonder what they'll do when a landslide of requests comes in!! I don't think I can handle mailing out 60,000 :-) ). So I wanted to tell my fellow fans, because I have a bit of an inside track here sometimes, that Joni Mitchell's The Fiddle & The Drum Ballet Soundtrack CDs have arrived here at the Alberta Ballet office, and they look and sound wonderful!! Lots of great stills from the ballet with Joni's visual art incorporated, and our beautiful dancers looking lit from within. The CDs will be sold at our upcoming Alberta performance dates in Calgary (February 26-28 09) and in Edmonton (February 20-21 09). If there are any left, it looks like I will be able to fill orders here at the office, but only if there are any left once the performances have taken place. Please don't write me for a copy yet - I'll be sure to let you know when I have the go ahead to fill mail orders. It is amazing to think I am one of the only people (aside from manufacturers) who has seen these CDs! We should be getting DVDs pretty soon too. If you haven't seen The Fiddle & The Drum yet, you will be absolutely amazed that ballet can be so gripping and thrilling. It was the first ballet I had ever seen, and now I'm hooked. What a great surprise to find out that the art I'm working for isn't sleepy at all. Again, the ballet is taking place in Alberta, here in Canada. It is touring to a few places in the States too, but I'm not sure where and when - I think it's still in the works. When I know that I'll pass it along too. Tickets can be found through Ticketmaster. Regardless of whether or not you get to see the ballet, I hope you will take the core messages of The Fiddle & The Drum ballet to heart - choose peace over war, respect and protect the earth, and slow down to experience the joy of life! Laurie Laurie Fuhr | Administrative Assistant | ALBERTA BALLET | p: 403.245.4222 ext 521 | f: 403.245.6573 | laurief@albertaballet.com | www.albertaballet.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #29 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------