From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #21 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 20 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 021 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: the hissing of summer cicadas [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST [Em ] Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST ["Randy Remote" ] Seeger on Sunday ["Barbara Stewart" ] Fw: A Song for Obama [ann jensen ] Re: Mary Grace and the JMDL (njc) [Jeannie ] NJC : PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS [Mary Morris ] Judy and James honored - NJC ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS - NJC ["Cassy" Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas Jamie, as you know, Joni did get into sampling and synths and loops with the likes of your countryman, Thomas Dolby and everybody put Miss Mitchell in a box of weirdos and hoped it would be quickly forgotten (everybody except me). The album was, of course, Dog Eat Dog. It is still today her most maligned album of all but, her use of synth lines and overdubbing, to my ears, was brilliant. It is up there as one of her strongest albums, lyrically but because it uses synth styles that were at the heart of '80s synth-pop (no wonder, Dolby was king in those days), it is thrown on the '80s trash heap and not fully appreciated. Joni has incorporated some of the lessons she learned from the synth master in her following albums, just to a more subtle degree. Dog Eat Dog was ahead of it's time really and just as layered as any album of Joni's. Mark in Sydney NP Ethiopia - Joni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:59:32 +0000 From: "Zooby" Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas Lol! Mark, I'd hoped you of all people to not take my posts *that* seriously. ;) The Jungle Line as we know was looped and sampled and possibly a first foray into World Music and technically its House Music. LOL she is of course a genius - ------Original Message------ From: Mark-Leon Thorne To: Jamie Zubairi Cc: Joni JMDL Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas Sent: 19 Jan 2009 10:52 Jamie, as you know, Joni did get into sampling and synths and loops with the likes of your countryman, Thomas Dolby and everybody put Miss Mitchell in a box of weirdos and hoped it would be quickly forgotten (everybody except me). The album was, of course, Dog Eat Dog. It is still today her most maligned album of all but, her use of synth lines and overdubbing, to my ears, was brilliant. It is up there as one of her strongest albums, lyrically but because it uses synth styles that were at the heart of '80s synth-pop (no wonder, Dolby was king in those days), it is thrown on the '80s trash heap and not fully appreciated. Joni has incorporated some of the lessons she learned from the synth master in her following albums, just to a more subtle degree. Dog Eat Dog was ahead of it's time really and just as layered as any album of Joni's. Mark in Sydney NP Ethiopia - Joni Sent using BlackBerry. from Orange ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:40:48 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST yeah it was a rush. A true rush. I loved it. Was so strange though, switching back and forth between that concert and football playoffs. Way different kinds of rushes. I've never heard "The Star Spangled Banner" so many times in one day! :) Em - --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Mark Scott wrote: > From: Mark Scott > Subject: Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST > To: "Sherelle Smith" , "Patti Parlette" , joni@smoe.org, "Marianne Rizzo (JMDL)" , ubehpy2003@yahoo.com > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 11:53 PM > I'm tivoing the concert but I did see some of the first > part. Bettye Lavette and Jon Bon Jovi did a duet of 'A > Change is Gonna Come' that was amazing. Mary J. Blige > was also riveting singing 'Lean on Me'. And > Springstein's performance of 'The Rising' backed > by an enormous choir was downright inspiring. Hope is alive > in the world. That in itself is encouraging. The last 8 > years have felt so hopeless. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:20:26 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: the hissing of summer cicadas From: "Mark Scott" > I assume sprinklers > are much more prominent in the residential parts of LA where there is > less rainfall than where I grew up. Pretty much none in the summer. >Anyway, I think it was the > sprinklers that Joni referred to as the hissing of summer lawns. I think so, too. LA is an unnatural place for a city; the water comes all the way from the Colorado River, without it, the area would be dry as a bone. In years of low rainfall, there has been water rationing. I think, in typical Joni fashion, the reference is multi-layered. The wealthy water their lawns and fill their pools, oblivious to any but their own world. Hence the hiss has a sinister undertone, as the sprinklers automatically come on every morning. And if you listen to her vocal, there is a hiss at the end of her line..."and the hissing of summer lawnsssssss". RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:53:59 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST I read that HBO is letting any station that wants to, to "cop a feed" so to speak, so check other channels. I saw it live this morning, it was excellent. I didn't even barf when Josh Groban sang! RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:42:59 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re:Hissing The "hissing" of the summer lawns, which I had always assumed to be sprinklers, and probably insects too has surely a metaphorical resonance too. What could be more joyful than a summer lawn? And yet even there, there lurks a menace, a venom, a snake-like threat. The serpent in the garden and all that mythology. Now go over the lyric to the THOSL song in your head; " darkness, with a joyful mask", "tube's gone darkness, darkness, darkness, no color no contrast", "he put up a barbed wire fence to keep out the unknown and on every metal thorn just a little blood of his own". This fear, this ennui, this drabness among the affluent middle classes, set against the lushness of grass, beautiful homes and happy masks of the owners is, I'm starting to realize, the dichotomy that lies behind many of the songs on THOSL: Harry's House, Shadows and Light, The Jungle Line, Shades of Scarlet Conquering, and more. An album title ideally captures in a single stroke the mood or vision of the songs contained in the album as a whole (as Hejira does) and The Hissing of Summer Lawns may be one of Joni's most compact and powerful titles; visual, aural, mythical. Thanks to Mark for sparking this debate, Dave (a mere 8 months to SoCal JoniFest to go...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:00:14 -0500 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Seeger on Sunday The foto featured in Variety (online at any rate) for the inaugural concert review? PETE SEEGER!!!!!!! Folk legend Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen perform at We Are One. http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117939371.html?categoryid=32&cs=1 (wasn't Tao's voice impressive? - and up against Springsteen, AND in that cold !!!!!) B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King Get ready to FEEL THE POWER of The Electric Company--an All New Series on PBS! Catch a Sneak Peek Monday, January 19th! Check us out online! pbskidsgo.org/electriccompany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: ann jensen Subject: Fw: A Song for Obama from a friend here in milwaukee... From: David HB Drake Subject: A Song for Obama To: "!Organic Arts-Gmail" Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:26 PM Just wrote this... I'll sing it at the Martin Luther KingB Justice Rally/March Monday January 19 at St Francis of Assisi Church B Feel free to use itB anywhere you see fit. B DHBD B Black Man in the White House David HB Drake - January 18, 2009 B B B B B B B B B B B CB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B EmB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B FB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B C In our nation of all colors there is dawning a new day B B B B B B B B B B CB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B EmB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B DmB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B G Many Sisters, many Brothers have been shown a better way B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B CB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B EmB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B DmB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B C Therebs a bright light from Miss Liberty now shining on the wavesb& B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B FB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B GB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Am (Therebs a)B Black Man in the White House built by slaves b B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B FB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B GB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B C B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Black Man in the White House built by slaves B Itbs forty years since Martin lead his march across the land Now the people see the waking of the dream that he began And Old Abe in silence watches as our history turns a pageb& (Therebs a)B Black Man in the White House built by slaves b B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Black Man in the White House built by slaves. B How many years webve waited for a chance to cast a vote For all souls created equal as the Founding Fathers wrote Now we finally can have a hope to live the promise that they gaveb& (Therebs a)B Black Man in the White House built by slaves b B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Black Man in the White House built by slaves. B I see Sister Oprah smiling as she wipes a tear away And Brother Jesse never thought hebd live to see this day But a million Ku Klux Klansmen must be spinning in their gravesb& (Therebs a)B Black Man in the White House built by slaves b B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Black Man in the White House built by slaves. B David HB Drake, Organic Arts Ltd. For calendar, programs, and information on David visit: www.davidhbdrake.com For more fine grassroots musicians and storytellers visit: www.organicarts.info "One can be both entertained and educated and not know the difference" - -Mark Twain- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Mary Grace and the JMDL (njc) Yes, thank you, Les, for dedicating the space telling us about Mary Grace. I got very emotional reading about Mary Grace and seeing some of her pictures last night and I'm still teary eyed and taking in emotionally filled breaths. That was right before my time when I was making the transition to come on over to the discussion list after Warren Zevon died and I knew it was the right time to join the JMDL after a couple of previous unsuccessful attempts since 1998 because it just wasn't the proper timing. I see someone posted one of Warren Zevon's final songs, 'Keep Me In Your Heart For Awhile,' to Mary Grace and so we must have all been on the same sad note for awhile. So many bittersweet memories. Anyway, my donation to the JMDL is in and I appreciate this place very much and I shall continue here and there to make whatever donations I can. Thank you! Jeannie PS: Special, special thanks to Kate du Nord and to Issa. - --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Brian Gross wrote: > From: Brian Gross > Subject: Mary Grace (njc) > To: "Joni@smoe.org" > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 11:16 PM > Today, January 19th, would have been Mary Grace's 50th > birthday. > > Thank you, Les, for hosting these pages > http://jmdl.com/remember.cfm?id=8 > > Brian > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. > And usually for the same reasons. > ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:15:03 -0800 From: Mary Morris Subject: NJC : PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS Dear JMDL'RS Quincy Jones has started a petition to ask President-Elect Obama to appoint a Secretary of the Arts. While many other countries have had Ministers of Art or Culture for centuries, The United States has never created such a position. We in the arts need this and the country needs the arts--now more than ever. Please take a moment to sign this important petition and then pass it on to your friends and colleagues.www.petitiononline.com/esnyc/petition.html Mary MM _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:47:07 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Seeger on Sunday NJC It was great to see Pete Seeger, blacklisted for so many years, perform at this event and for him to sing "This Land Is Your Land" with all the subversive verses left in. I was also very happy that the song that Woody hated so much that he wrote "This Land," "God Bless America," was left off of the We Are One list. I got way overplayed during the early years of the W. administration, as I recall. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Stewart Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:00 PM To: Brown, Ginger; joni@smoe.org; steve@stevejsherman.com Subject: Seeger on Sunday The foto featured in Variety (online at any rate) for the inaugural concert review? PETE SEEGER!!!!!!! Folk legend Pete Seeger and Bruce Springsteen perform at We Are One. http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117939371.html?categoryid=32&cs=1 (wasn't Tao's voice impressive? - and up against Springsteen, AND in that cold !!!!!) B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King Get ready to FEEL THE POWER of The Electric Company--an All New Series on PBS! Catch a Sneak Peek Monday, January 19th! Check us out online! pbskidsgo.org/electriccompany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:02:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Judy and James honored - NJC January 19, 2009 *James Taylor and Judy Collins will be presented with Lifetime Achievement Awards and perform at this year's BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards on February 2.* James Taylor virtually invented the singer-songwriter genre with a string of hits in the Seventies including Sweet Baby James, Fire And Rain and Carolina In My Mind. Over the course of his prestigious career Taylor has been the recipient of numerous awards for his timeless catalogue of songs. Judy Collins' distinctive voice and interpretations of folk songs and standards have brought acclaim during a distinguished career now entering its fifth decade. As well as hits Send in the Clowns and Both Sides Now she brought Leonard Cohen's songs to a wider audience. Musicians citing her as an influence include Joan Baez, Dolly Parton, and Chrissie Hynde. The Awards show also features performances by the current Folk Singer of the Year Julie Fowlis and by five times nominated singer-songwriter Chris Wood. Jim Moray, nominated for Best Album and Best Original Song, performs his cover of Andy Partridge's All You Pretty Girls, while Best Live Act nominee Seth Lakeman opens the show. The 10th annual Radio 2 Folk Awards take place at The Brewery in London and are hosted by Radio 2's weekly folk show presenter, Mike Harding. Mark Radcliffe and Stuart Maconie present their Radio 2 show live from backstage at the Awards between 8-10pm. Extended highlights of the Awards are broadcast on Radio 2 on February 4 from 7pm. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:22:14 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS - NJC I disagree that we need a secretary of the arts. I already have the government involved in far too many areas of my life and refuse to give up one more personal ideal to them. Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Morris" To: "JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: NJC : PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS > Dear JMDL'RS > Quincy Jones has started a petition to ask President-Elect Obama to > appoint a > Secretary of the Arts. While many other countries have had Ministers of > Art > or Culture for centuries, The United States has never created such a > position. > We in the arts need this and the country needs the arts--now more than > ever. > Please take a moment to sign this important petition and then pass it on > to > your friends and colleagues.www.petitiononline.com/esnyc/petition.html > Mary MM > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 > 9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:46:55 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS - NJC I can understand your wariness, Cassy. But as someone who has benefitted by receiving grant monies from both National Endowments (Humanities and Arts), I appreciate and support federal involvement in the arts. It seems to me that if we had a cabinet-level position, such programs might become more secure. The dangers, of course, lie in the possibility of government censorship for political reasons. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Cassy Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:22 PM To: Mary Morris; JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST Subject: Re: PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS - NJC I disagree that we need a secretary of the arts. I already have the government involved in far too many areas of my life and refuse to give up one more personal ideal to them. Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Morris" To: "JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: NJC : PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS > Dear JMDL'RS > Quincy Jones has started a petition to ask President-Elect Obama to > appoint a > Secretary of the Arts. While many other countries have had Ministers of > Art > or Culture for centuries, The United States has never created such a > position. > We in the arts need this and the country needs the arts--now more than > ever. > Please take a moment to sign this important petition and then pass it on > to > your friends and colleagues.www.petitiononline.com/esnyc/petition.html > Mary MM > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_0120 0 > 9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:48:16 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: PETITION FOR SECRETARY OF THE ARTS - NJC From: "Richard Flynn" <<< I can understand your wariness, Cassy. But as someone who has benefitted by receiving grant monies from both National Endowments (Humanities and Arts), I appreciate and support federal involvement in the arts. It seems to me that if we had a cabinet-level position, such programs might become more secure. The dangers, of course, lie in the possibility of government censorship for political reasons. >>> While the idea of government grants to artists is attractive and I know of others who have been the beneficiaries of generous grants, I worry about cencorship on many levels. I know that money for the arts has all but dried up but who decides who's worthy of grant money and what is it based on? An acquaintance of mine, Barbara Nitke, is a wonderful photographer. Her website was shut down by the powers that be ostensably because they called it pornography. Barbara's work has some nudity but it is presented artistically in many people's opinions; the fact that her art contains such images as bondage and fire-play makes her susceptible to deeper scrutiny much as Robert Mapplethorpe's work made his work controversial. She has published books and profited from her art. In Nitke v. Ashcroft, later changed to Nitke v. Gonzales Barbara challenged the constitutionality of The Communications Decency Act and ultimately lost after taking her case all the way to the Supreme Court. This case was based primarily on internet standards but I can see Government involvement catering to the most conservative of patrons and eventually diluting "art" to conform to some standard I don't subscribe to. Dorothea Lange's work was not only censored but also confiscated when she photographed images of japanese American internment and are held now at the U.S. National Archives. The reproduction of Picasso's famous antiwar mural, Guernica, hanging at the entrance to the UN Security Council, was censored in January, 2003. This is such a double-edged sword. The financial support would be welcome by many artists but at what cost? Cassy NP: Ravel - Bolero ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:56:11 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST Yes it is Mark!!! I can't believe I forgot about Betty Lavette and Jon Bon Jovi doing that wonderful duet!!! It blew my mind!!!! Many (including me) who went to the Joni Tribute Concert at Carnegie Hall a few years ago got to stand right next Betty Lavette and say hello! What a songstress!!! I agree with you that it was an inspiring concert!!! Sherelle> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:53:44 -0800> From: mark.travis@gte.net> Subject: Re: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" concert at 7 p.m. EST> To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com; loveuconn@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org; treegreen1@hotmail.com; ubehpy2003@yahoo.com> > I'm tivoing the concert but I did see some of the first part. Bettye > Lavette and Jon Bon Jovi did a duet of 'A Change is Gonna Come' that > was amazing. Mary J. Blige was also riveting singing 'Lean on Me'. > And Springstein's performance of 'The Rising' backed by an enormous > choir was downright inspiring. Hope is alive in the world. That in > itself is encouraging. The last 8 years have felt so hopeless.> > Mark in Seattle> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherelle Smith" > To: "Patti Parlette" ; ; > "Marianne Rizzo (JMDL)" ; > > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:54 PM> Subject: RE: njc, Quincy Jones writes about Obama; "We Are One" > concert at 7 p.m. EST> > > > Dear Patti,> >> > Thank you so much for including me on this post! I have been away > > from> > Joniland and do miss it terribly!!! I saw "We Are One" live on HBO > > at 2:30 pm> > EST today and was so touched by it!!! All of the artists did a > > wonderful job> > in my opinion! I was moved beyond words and found myself standing in > > front of> > the TV dancing and singing along to almost all of it! I did not > > attempt to go> > because the weather was a little too cold for me to be out in for a > > prolonged> > period but that didn't stop me from being in the moment! I am not > > having a> > party Tuesday bugt I think I am going to decorate my windows with > > some red,> > white and blue in celebration anyway!!! I'm also hoping it will be > > shown> > somewhere else so that you can see it! I can't remember all the > > artists but> > here's a list of who I can remember:> >> > Josh Groban/Heather Headley-duet> > James Taylor, John Legend, Female half of group, Sugarland, Arnold> > McMullen-Shower the People> > Mary J Blige-Lean on Me> > Beyonce-ended the concert magnificently!> > Bruce Springsteen> > Stevie Wonder/Usher/> > Sheryl Crow/Herbie Hancock/Will I Am-One Love> > John Mellencamp-Little Pink Houses> > U2> > That's all I can remember off the top of my head! Sorry!> >> > Sherelle> _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:58:11 -0500 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: In praise of Pete Seeger (UK Guardian article) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/20/obama-inauguration-pete-s eeger B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King Get ready to FEEL THE POWER of The Electric Company--an All New Series on PBS! Catch a Sneak Peek Monday, January 19th! 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