From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2009 #6 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 7 2009 Volume 2009 : Number 006 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: another brother NJC ["gene" ] njc - Joe Henry and those Bees [Lieve Reckers ] Re: new Joni book - now about Girls Like Us [Lieve Reckers ] Re: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees [Catherine McKay ] Re: Man on Wire - NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Steely Dan [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Man on Wire - NJC ["Jerry Notaro" ] RE: Steely Dan [anon anon ] Re: Steely Dan [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Boston Area and NYC area Pals (NJC) [Michael Paz ] njc Climax Blues Band I love you [Vince ] brother update NJC [Mags ] No digests since #002 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:29:33 -0800 From: "gene" Subject: Re: another brother NJC Hang in there Mags, I'm sending you the biggest best vibes I can along with a warm hug. warmly yours, gene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:34:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees I was so pleased to see Cassy mention Joe Henry (even though it was to say that an interview with him had sadly been lost by i-Tunes, for which my sympathy, Cassy!) because while visiting my sister in Belgium over Christmas, she was playing his CD Scar, and I really liked what I heard.B I had never heard of him before but when I looked him up, it seems he's been around for ages and has produced many albums.B Would anyone like to comment a bit more on him so that I can "place" him a bit better? Thanks! Lieve in London. PS I so dislike seeing my messages on the JMDL with all those Bs in blank spaces!B Thanks to all who manage to read through them in spite of those damn things.B And if anyone knows how I can get rid of them, please please tell me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:04:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: new Joni book - now about Girls Like Us Corey, thanks for your reaction.B I'm glad you are enjoying the book.B I understand what you say about the asterisks and asides, but I must say in the book's defense that I found the author handled this very well, compared to other biographies and researched history books I have read, where the asides are often dull or obscure or irrelevant.B Without these asides, she would either have ended up with more of a ramble in the main text, or have had to drop information that I am glad I got in those asides.B I think the advantage of an aside is that you can decide to read it, or read it later, without having the main flow of the book affected.B While reading this book, I thought several times to myself: "ThisB side note isB really interesting,B I'm glad she put this here."B I hope you will continue to enjoy the rest of the read, Corey!B (I still have a small portion left to go too, but it will have to wait a few days until I have the right time.B I am sort of expecting a bit of a let-down, as the more recent unfinished business of a biography is often a rush job without the benefit of perspective.) Marion, isn't it funny how we react so differently to the same book?B IB said that I thought the book was well researched, you wrote that the book is totallyB lacking serious analysis.B I really respect your opinion and see no need to try and convince you of my viewpoint, but maybe a little friendly exchange could be useful?B Could you maybe tell me what sort of analysis you found missing?B Maybe we just had different expectations.B For instance, as I think Corey also said, the book does not go into great detail about the music, although I find it does reflect the spirit of the music quite well.B But certainly ifB one really wants to read about the music and analyse it, this is not the right book.B I know this is probably not what you were after, but I mean to say that maybe it is similar, i.e. that you simply wanted to find something that the author had not set out to do.B For me she did almost exactly what I could have wished for.B And I certainly don't wantB gory-detailed gossip or breach of privacy (which I so hate in many newspapers).B I felt that the sources, named and unnamed, stayed within the boundaries of what was either already known (but the author's achievement wasB to putB it all together in context) or what remained respectful. It's true, much remains say-so and objective opinion/observation, but I feel that is inevitable in a biography, evenB (or even more so!) if it had been with the input of the subjects themselves! Marion, just looking again at what you wrote, I understand you would like more analysis of things reported by third parties.B Would that not be, in most cases, justB more hypothesis and guess work, and would it therefore not be better to just leave us to discretely ponder by ourselves?B I'd be happy to get some examples of what you fund missing, but in any case we don't need to end up persuading each other, it's just fun to understand what the other means! Tastes vary with books as with music and that's all good, but to me this is a really great book that deserves more credit than it has got here, so I'm happy to represent that voice just for balance. All the best, Lieve in London. - ---------- Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:03:20 -0800 From: Corey Blake Subject: Hi Lieve, Thanks for your review of the book. I'm reading it now. I'm maybeB about a third of the way through. There's a lot of information I neverB knew, so it's a really fascinating read for me. However, her sentenceB structure has a tendency to get a bit unwieldy. She also really lovesB her asides and asterisks. And while she does have a lot of unnamedB sources, she also has a lot of really good first hand sources (shy ofB Joni and Carole themselves of course) like Larry Klien and otherB musicians and friends. (cut) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:46:48 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: New Joni book I agree with you Bob, but in my opinion investigating the darker side would also demand some sort of serious analysis on the author's part, which I find nearly totally lacking in Sheila Weller's book. Without it, the info she gives - often referring to anonymous sources - is just gossip. There is only one section in the book that does do some analysing, the part where she reflects on Joni's decision to give up Kelly for adoption and presents an interesting interpretation. My opinion, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:25:42 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Steely Dan - Aja , NJC I haven't heard this album but I've heard about this album from several places and I just noticed that this album popped again in the JMDL and now I wonder what is "Aja" and I'll be so happy if someone explain it and I'll be so thrilled if someone say that this sentence is the longest sentence in JMDL history. Rian NPIMH - Bjork - Boho Dance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees - --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Lieve Reckers wrote: > I was so pleased to see Cassy mention Joe Henry [...] I had never > heard of him before but when I looked him up, it seems > he's been around for > ages and has produced many albums. I don't have anything of value to add, but it won't stop me. It's thanks to Cassy that I heard of Joe Henry and gave him a listen and I really like his stuff. I suppose he's a bit in the vein of John Hiatt, Bruce Springsteen, John Mellenkamp (although I've never thought that Springsteen and Mellenkamp sound remotely the same). More than that I don't know. As far as the Bs go, are you using some kind of rich-text email program? If so, it could be adding these Bs wherever there's a line-break. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:04:26 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees Hi Lieve - so happy to hear that you've stumbled upon Joe Henry, one of my favorites. Most folks would concur that he's had two distinct careers - his early alt-country beginnings, and where he is now which is a much more airy, jazzy sound (like Hejira is jazzy, that kind of sound). The turning point for him is Fuse, and the three albums that followed it have continued along a similar path; Scar, Tiny Voices, and Civilians. I recommend these 4 albums without hesitation. If you go for his earlier work, just be prepared for an entirely different sound, one that I have found not quite as accessible and enjoyable. An interesting footnote: he also happens to be Madonna's brother-in-law, and her inclusion of a couple of his songs has pretty much made him comfortably wealthy and able to musically do whatever he likes. On another note - I owe you some feedback on the Carly Simon album "No Secrets", I'll try and take care of that this week. Bob NP: Red House Painters, "Shadows" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Lieve. ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Cassy ; jonipeople LIST ; Lieve Reckers Sent: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009 12:46:03 Subject: Re: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees - --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Lieve Reckers wrote: > I was so pleased to see Cassy mention Joe Henry [...] I had never > heard of him before but when I looked him up, it seems > he's been around for > ages and has produced many albums. I don't have anything of value to add, but it won't stop me. It's thanks to Cassy that I heard of Joe Henry and gave him a listen and I really like his stuff. I suppose he's a bit in the vein of John Hiatt, Bruce Springsteen, John Mellenkamp (although I've never thought that Springsteen and Mellenkamp sound remotely the same). More than that I don't know. As far as the Bs go, are you using some kind of rich-text email program? If so, it could be adding these Bs wherever there's a line-break. B B B __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:10:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: njc - Joe Henry and those Bees Thanks Bob!B Just the info I needed, I will definitely stick to his later period, that's the one I fell for! ________________________________ From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" To: Lieve Reckers Cc: jonipeople LIST ; Cassy Sent: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009 13:04:26 Subject: Re: njc - - Joe Henry and those Bees Hi Lieve - so happy to hear that you've stumbled upon Joe Henry, one of my favorites. Most folks would concur that he's had two distinct careers - his early alt-country beginnings, and where he is now which is a much more airy, jazzy sound (like Hejira is jazzy, that kind of sound). The turning point for him is Fuse, and the three albums that followed it have continued along a similar path; Scar, Tiny Voices, and Civilians. I recommend these 4 albums without hesitation. If you go for his earlier work, just be prepared for an entirely different sound, one that I have found not quite as accessible and enjoyable. (cut) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:37:19 -0800 (PST) From: Maggie McNally Subject: Re: Boston Area and NYC area Pals (NJC) Hey Paz, lovely to hear from you! I already have tickets to the Boston show, so the idea for me is to know the plan outside of the performance venue. Can't wait to see you and SO appreciate the advance notice. If anyone want to buy tickets to the Symphony Hall show, I can add them to my order and get you a slightly better price ('cause it's presented by my old organization). Chances are, we wouldn't be sitting together, but between artist's holds and other holds we could work to get the best possible seats as close together as possible. Just let me know. Hope to see a bunch of you locals around the Hall. Happy New Year to one and all. Even though times are tough, this is the time for hope and great expectations. xox, Maggie ________________________________ From: Michael Paz To: Ashara Stansfield ; Chuck Eisenhardt ; Maggie McNally ; johnsonjs100@comcast.net; Anne Sandstrom ; Jenny Goodspeed ; Kay Ashley ; Barbara Little ; patrick leader ; RoseMJoy@aol.com; Dflahm@aol.com Cc: Joni List Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 5:57:30 PM Subject: Boston Area and NYC area Pals (NJC) Heads up Kids I know it is 3 months off but I thought I would plan ahead for a change and not just drop in on ya. Below is our tour schedule and I will be in the Boston area for a few days as well as in NYC on my B-Day with the night off so I am looking to throw down. It would be great to have some get togethers along the way. In Boston area we are there with the Blind Boys of Alabama and we have a long run at the Blue Note. Lets make some plans to have minifest. Hope to hear from you guys. Love Paz March 26, 2009 - 7:30pm Lebanon Opera House Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Lebanon, NH March 27, 2009 - 8:00pm Symphony Hall Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Boston, MA March 28, 2009 - 8:00pm State Theater Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Ithaca, NY March 29, 2009 Ridgefield Playhouse Ridgefield, CT March 31, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 1, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 2, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 3, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 4, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 5, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:02:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Man on Wire - NJC I concur with Bob and all of you who found 'Man on Wire' fascinating and captivating. This film easily makes my top ten list of excellent films done in 2008 (sounds like a long time ago, doesn't it?). The exhilaration of doing something one feels intensely about never fails to interest me. James Marsh's documentary weaves old photos, vintage interviews and present-day commentaries from people involved in the project including the effervescent and ageless Petit himself. There were lots of hair-raising moments in the film. Recommended. On a related note, if you get a chance to see 'Encounters at the end of the world' by the great Werner Herzog, go see it. Or even just fragments of it. All stories are good. It is now available on DVD too. Talk about passion to know the unknowable. Vince, I also didn't like 'Doubt' that much. I don't know if it is the direction of the playwright himself that is keeping the action from being organic, or if -- horrors of horror -- the screenplay itself is flawed (which is based on a play and brilliantly acted by Cherry Jones on stage). I do have to respectfully disagree with you on Meryl Streep though. Not a huge fan of her brand of acting, but that's just me and I am sure many will disagree. Sure, I thought her rarely seen 'Defending Your Life' (made in 1990 I think) is the least idiomatic of all her performances but that was the one film I truly enjoyed watching her in. In 'Doubt', this wonderful actress Viola Davis stole the thunder from everyone, or at least I think so. The one recent film I thought was gripping is 'Frost/Nixon'.B Frank Langella in some angles resemble the iconic poses I have seen of Nixon in pictures. And he is very believable. He was also excellent in last year's sadly overlooked 'Starting out in the evening'. This year's performance as Nixon may augur for very good materials for him to chomp on. I also am happy to see Michael Sheen on top of his game -- I thought he was underrated in 'The Queen' as Prime Minister Blair. I am eager to see 'The Wrestler' and watch Mickey Rourke who most critics claim, is flat out astounding. More importantly, the film itself did not fall into cliches but we'll see if the hype is really true. Have a fun Tuesday to all. Getting warm in a rainy place, Joseph np:B Johann Johannsson - Fordlandia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:18:00 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Man on Wire - NJC That one will be delivering to my mailbox this very day, Joseph - along with "The Wackness". Looking forward to seeing it. Bob NP: Ani, "Animal" (live 10.09.03) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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We had a Joni/Steely Dan thread going a few months back and I, among others, pointed out some strong similarities in their chordal harmony and word painting. Dave On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:31:54 -0600 > From: "Dan Olson" > Subject: Re: Steely Dan > > I wonder if Joni's insider knowledge of the recording of > "Aja" (with Larry > Carlton and Wayne Shorter, among others) influenced her decision to > get > Wayne Shorter to play on DJRD (recorded at roughly the same time in > 1977)? > Of course, Wayne continued collaborating with Joni continuously for > the next > 3 DECADES (but strangely, not on Shine). > > ~Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:41:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Man on Wire - NJC Entertainment Weekly put Man On a Wire in their Top Ten. Their number one is also my number one for the year: Wall-E Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > the > world' by the great Werner Herzog, go see it. > > > That one will be delivering to my mailbox this very day, Joseph - along > with "The Wackness". Looking forward to seeing it. > > Bob > > NP: Ani, "Animal" (live 10.09.03) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:19:52 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: RE: Steely Dan > From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: Steely Dan > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:33:24 -0800 > To: joni@smoe.org; dgolson999@gmail.com > > Remember Joni was a fan of Miles Davis, probably years before Aja was > recorded, so she would have heard Wayne in 1967 on Nefertiti. Just as > likely, having met Jaco in 1976 who had just joined Weather Report, > Joni was introduced to Wayne directly. > > We had a Joni/Steely Dan thread going a few months back and I, among > others, pointed out some strong similarities in their chordal harmony > and word painting. > > Dave > the one advantage, perhaps, that Joni has over SD, is that Joni's music is often very emotional... SD's lyrics, while very clever and interesting, seems much more detached, generally speaking... _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:24:01 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Steely Dan I agree that Joni's music was more emotional at certain times in her career but often she was describing characters or scenes vividly with an emotional detachment, something Fagen and Becker did great too (I'm thinking of the beautiful ennui of Deacon Blues or Babylon Sisters and how they compare to, say, Harry's House.) Dave On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:19 AM, anon anon wrote: > > > > From: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: Re: Steely Dan > > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:33:24 -0800 > > To: joni@smoe.org; dgolson999@gmail.com > > > > Remember Joni was a fan of Miles Davis, probably years before Aja > was > > recorded, so she would have heard Wayne in 1967 on Nefertiti. > Just as > > likely, having met Jaco in 1976 who had just joined Weather Report, > > Joni was introduced to Wayne directly. > > > > We had a Joni/Steely Dan thread going a few months back and I, among > > others, pointed out some strong similarities in their chordal > harmony > > and word painting. > > > > Dave > > > > the one advantage, perhaps, that Joni has over SD, is that > Joni's music is often very emotional... SD's lyrics, while very > clever and interesting, > seems much more detached, generally speaking... > > Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. Get > your account now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:28:36 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Boston Area and NYC area Pals (NJC) I should be able to come up with a few freebies depending on the bands needs. I can't wait to see you guys. Luv Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Maggie McNally wrote: Hey Paz, lovely to hear from you! I already have tickets to the Boston show, so the idea for me is to know the plan outside of the performance venue. Can't wait to see you and SO appreciate the advance notice. If anyone want to buy tickets to the Symphony Hall show, I can add them to my order and get you a slightly better price ('cause it's presented by my old organization). Chances are, we wouldn't be sitting together, but between artist's holds and other holds we could work to get the best possible seats as close together as possible. Just let me know. Hope to see a bunch of you locals around the Hall. Happy New Year to one and all. Even though times are tough, this is the time for hope and great expectations. xox, Maggie From: Michael Paz To: Ashara Stansfield ; Chuck Eisenhardt ; Maggie McNally ; johnsonjs100@comcast.net; Anne Sandstrom ; Jenny Goodspeed ; Kay Ashley ; Barbara Little ; patrick leader ; RoseMJoy@aol.com; Dflahm@aol.com Cc: Joni List Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 5:57:30 PM Subject: Boston Area and NYC area Pals (NJC) Heads up Kids I know it is 3 months off but I thought I would plan ahead for a change and not just drop in on ya. Below is our tour schedule and I will be in the Boston area for a few days as well as in NYC on my B- Day with the night off so I am looking to throw down. It would be great to have some get togethers along the way. In Boston area we are there with the Blind Boys of Alabama and we have a long run at the Blue Note. Lets make some plans to have minifest. Hope to hear from you guys. Love Paz March 26, 2009 - 7:30pm Lebanon Opera House Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Lebanon, NH March 27, 2009 - 8:00pm Symphony Hall Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Boston, MA March 28, 2009 - 8:00pm State Theater Down By The Riverside Tour w/The Blind Boys of Alabama Ithaca, NY March 29, 2009 Ridgefield Playhouse Ridgefield, CT March 31, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 1, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 2, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 3, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 4, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY April 5, 2009 - 8:00 and 10:30pm Blue Note New York, NY Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:46:42 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: new Joni book - now about Girls Like Us Lieve, Thanks for taking the time to write all of that. I have read some of the book (Girls like Us) and from what I have read, I agree with what you said. I find it to be sociologically contextual and analytical. Perhaps, and maybe this could be a criticism, perhaps it over analyzes. . . and maybe some of the interpretations are st r etches. something like that. I like the book, from what I have read so far. I feel the author is a very good writer and sociologist type. (I guess the true test is what Joni and Carlie and Carole King thinks). Marianne ------------------------------ From: Lieve Reckers Subject: re: new Joni book - now about Girls Like Us _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:38:18 -0500 From: Vince Subject: Re: another brother NJC prayers are with you Mags Vince On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Mags wrote: > i have been grappling with whether or not to send this out here, but have > been > encouraged because this is a welcoming place for such things. without going > into sordid details, my brother is in ICU and has been in a coma for two > days > now. Some decisions may need to be made soon, and this has no doubt become > an > incredibly painful time for my family. > > as a very dear friend said to me recently, in regards to this situation, no > matter what, your family is your family. i've been confused as hell. i > guess, > mostly, i am writing for support and prayers for the healing of this > family, > for the outcome to be what it is meant to be. > > to lose another brother is devasting, beyond what i imagined. deja vu dave > all > over again. my poor mum is losing another son, and it's just so messed up. > > i ask for your prayers, thoughts, or whatever it is that you do in times > like > this. > > i'm more than happy to share details off list, i think. > > it's a tough way to be right now, and i'm lost. > > mags. > > that is what you love a friend for: the ability to change your angle of > vision, bring back your best self when you feel worst, remind you of your > strengths when you feel weak. > ~erica jong~ > __________________________________________________________________ > Connect > with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new > Yahoo! > Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at > http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:40:25 -0500 From: Vince Subject: njc Climax Blues Band I love you anyone have that song on mp3 or itunes that they can send me - Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:11:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: brother update NJC heart felt thanks to the lovely ones who replied to me, off list. it has been a wonderful reminder of the love and care some of us share here in our little land of joni. i have no good news to share, as he remains in a coma. that's about all i have in this moment. **** i want to say something else, to someone in particular, and i will try to do so with a view to respecting this list): i know it will sound odd to those of you who doint know me, or perhaps dont understand why i'm about to say what i'm about to say. so here's a big fat strong message to "you" .... you know who you are and you know that i have asked/begged / pleaded with you to not contact me, period. i repeat, i do not want to hear from you, so please do not write to me off list. to dare to step into the realm of my struggles here with my family is hurtful. maybe that's what you want. whatever, i no longer care about your intentions or whatever. . i certainly don't need any more provocation. but hear this: if you contact me again, i have no choice but to make your harrassment public. enough. go away. leave me alone. Mags ***** that is what you love a friend for: the ability to change your angle of vision, bring back your best self when you feel worst, remind you of your strengths when you feel weak. ~erica jong~ ***** __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:32:01 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: No digests since #002 Strangely, this fails http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2009.n002 but the next ones work: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2010.n002 http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2010.n003 http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2010.n004 http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2010.n005 fails too. Jim L ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2009 #6 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------