From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #335 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, December 27 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 335 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Eartha Kitt njc RIP ["Jamie Zubairi Home" ] Re: NJC Re: It Don't Snow Here - oh yes, it do! [Catherine McKay ] Re: what matters most njc ["Anita Tedder" ] Re: what matters most njc [Susan Guzzi ] Re: what matters most njc [Bob Muller ] RE: JMLD, JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho and broken TV photos [Lau] Re: Best of 2008 [PassScribe@aol.com] Jericho ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Eartha Kitt njc RIP [Jeannie ] Re: what matters most njc [Jeannie ] Re: Songs that could make me cry [Kate Johnson ] broken TV photos [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] Re: Smurf called! [Michael Paz ] Re: broken TV photos [Laura Stanley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:59:08 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Eartha Kitt njc RIP Not only did we lose a Royal Marine on Christmas day in Afghanistan but Also the nobel Lit winner Harold Pinter and the wonderful Eartha Kitt. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7799852.stm - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk 01273 323 010 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Re: It Don't Snow Here - oh yes, it do! We've had bizarre weather for at least the last week. We had three snowstorms, about 36 hours apart, then it turned warmer Christmas Eve and started raining, so everything became slushy with HUGE puddles, more like lakes, at street corners. That made crossing the street a whole new adventure, especially with some of the a-hole drivers who are oblivious to the fact there's water and slush all over and who seem to take delight in driving by FAST, so as to cover everyone on the sidewalk with slush and water. It was also warmer yesterday, Christmas Eve, and snow has been melting. We're supposed to get a high of 9 (celsius, that is) tomorrow I think (at Christmas time, I never have any idea what day it is) and people will be out there in shorts. Some really will. Canadians are weird that way. Then within a few days, it will dip down below 0 - once again, that's Celsisus, the freezing point, which is 32F. Temps-wise I think mostly in metric; lengths- and heights-wise, I think feet and inches, except for distances between cities which are in km, or speed of cars, which is in kmh. Weights-wise I think metric when buying food, but pounds when thinking of my own weight. - --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > It DOES snow here but as it happens to be, we are having a > green Christmas. > I can't remember the last time we had a white > Christmas. But don't get me > wrong. We've had snow. We've had some bad driving > days already even though > by the calendar winter just started. If the past couple of > months weren't > winter, then I don't know what is. We're at a cold > (about 50-60 degrees too > cold for me) 24 degrees today. However, we'll be at 44 > tomorrow and 60 on > Saturday. Thats Ohio for you. > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: what matters most njc - --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > I guess everybody gets a little melancholy at this time of > year. The fact that I don't celebrate Christmas because > I don't want to seem like a hypocrite, being an atheist, > doesn't stop those memories flooding back of my > childhood, sitting around the Christmas tree, opening > presents and getting ready for the big meal. I'm not > sure if I would have continued that tradition if I had my > own kids but childhood memories are the sweetest ones. > Remembering the lengths my mother would go to to keep some > surprises and staying up all night to haul out the gifts she > had hidden away from prying eyes and sneaky snoops. Knowing > now that the look on her children's faces as they > discover that there was even more in store than they thought > was what she treasured most. No need to fake the surprised > look. > Not that I want to push you into anything, but in my opinion, it's not hypocritical to celebrate Christmas if you're an atheist. I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to describe myself as an atheist. I believe in something - a higher power, the goodness that resides in all of us (OK, most of us), something like that. I was raised as a Catholic but don't believe any of that now, because it's too literal-minded. I prefer my spiritual thinking to be more symbolic so am happy to read about any spiritual beliefs to see how they fit in. I haven't been to church in years except for the odd family thing, usually (unfortunately) a funeral. It feels weird sometimes thinking about the name "Christmas" as having "Christ" in it when I don't believe in that as a religious belief and yet, we pronounce it Chris, not Christ, so go figure. But we gots to call it something. For people who want to put the Christ back in Christmas, go ahead if you want to, but please don't harangue other people about it. Christmas trees aren't Christian, no matter how much the faithful would like you to believe it. They can be if you want them to, but it's a stretch for me. Putting lights and decorations on a tree seems anything but Christian to me. It's a lot of fun for a few weeks. To me, living in a northern country, it's a reminder that the light is coming back. I could go on, but I'm boring myself by this point. I think it's good to be alone and even a little melancholy sometimes and there's no need to feel pathetic about it. I always liked the mystery and surprise element of Christmas. My rotten kids (especially my daughter) always snooped to find out what I had bought them for Christmas. tTe girl, aged 21, still does. I get so pissed off. If she did it and didn't tell me, I could live with it, but she has a big mouth. Next year - no presents except for joke ones! I'll give them money and they can get whatever they want. I'll put small bills and coins in joke presents and freak them out. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:42:24 -0000 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: Re: what matters most njc Mark wrote: "It takes almost no effort at all to offer what little I have to someone who may be in need of just that. To make someone feel welcome and give a feeling of security in an unfamiliar place or to make a simple phone call. When they can make such a difference to someone's life and cost you so little, why would you even hesitate?" People do hesitate Mark. That's why it's so wonderful when others (like you, in this case) undertake the 'random acts of kindness' Captain Janeway talks about. Seems like Mags is thoroughly touched, along with Cat,Jeannie,Rian and probably loads of others, including little old me. Soak up the love, Marky! However, I have a favour to ask. As you seem most able to bring people together, any chance you can hook me up with Seven of Nine? Yours pervily, Anita _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1137 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: what matters most njc Well I am a day late here, as far as Christmas goes. But I wanted to say to Mags and Mark, how much you both created the often missing spirit of the holiday. Thank you for your beautiful gentle reminders. Secondly Mark, I too am an atheist - who has never stopped celebrating Christmas. I know for me and what I know of you ... that being an atheist does not mean you can't be a romantic or a dreamer or loving or happy or altruistic and on and on. It only means I don't believe in Jesus and or God. Neither I nor you are a hypocrite if we choose to partake. I am not insulted by nativity scenes or religious display. I love it all. I love being immersed in the joy of all people thinking and reading from the same page for a day or two. Spreading love and good will ... breaking bread and holding hands .... reconnecting ... giving ... sharing ... celebrating life and using the guise of the season to do so. These are not foreign rituals to us as atheists. We are not haters - we are human. So celebrate Mark. A good human being is far greater than one who believes only as an insurance policy! Believe me, being raised Catholic I have met a few of those types. Happy Boxing Day and Merry rest of the Christmas Season to all ... and now I must get back to work! Peace, Susan (from Connecticut now - Chicago originally) - --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: what matters most njc To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca Cc: "Mags" , "Rian Afriadi" , "jonipeople" , "dally mclaughlin" Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 6:24 PM Hello my dear friends. It's Boxing Day here in Australia but I guess it's still Christmas Day in Canada and other parts of the world. I am so overwhelmed with your outpouring of love to me. I never expected that. I feel a little pathetic, having mentioned my loneliness. That was not the purpose of my original message. I just wanted to wish you all love and happiness and single you out by mentioning where you all are. I tried to imagine myself in your hometown, thinking about the weather, location, atmosphere. I did not mean to focus on my own situation. I am trying to find the positives here - the gorgeous weather we are having, the sound of a crow, black and ragged, flying tree to tree, calling to its mates. The essence of Summer and imagining the various atmospheres being experienced by you all. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:36:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: what matters most njc Of course this is true. Christmas is simply a merging of the pagan solstice holiday and a blending of the ancient gods Mithra and Osiris whose traits were appropriated to create the legend of Jesus to enable Christianity to gain political power. Even though I was raised as a Christian, and our family Christmases always started off with us singing "Happy Birthday" to Jesus (which I always thought was kind of goofy even when I believed in him), what MATTERED to me about the holiday was spending time with family and friends, and a simple gift exchange, holiday traditions like Mom's date nut bars and advent calendars, a Whitman's sampler in the stocking, watching Emmett Otter's Jugband Christmas (and crying our eyes out) and the like. None of which has anything to do with religion as far as I am concerned. We had a GREAT Christmas yesterday - Me and Mrs. SCJoniguy and SCJuniorguy went to my Mother-in-law's home and also brought along our friend Pam who is gay & single and whose family is spread out and far away. My Dad and his wife also came over, and even my wife's 92-year-old Grandmother was there so we had a 4-generation Christmas. A superb meal, some libations, exchanging of gifts, and a rousing game of Dominos (won by that rascal SCJuniorguy). Ironically, the only religious part of the day was when they asked ME to offer the blessing before the meal. Even though I knew my prayer was only being sent up to heaven full of Astronauts, it was very satisfying to sit around the table, hold hands, and offer thanks for the health and blessings we've enjoyed this year. (Oh, and by the way God...since we're thanking you and you didn't pay for any of this food or prepare any of it - could you at least help with the dishes?) Among those blessings, for me, is all of you - those that I have met, laughed with, cried with, argued with, sung and made music with, and those of you that I have not. Or in your case, Mark - have not met YET. I think that ridding myself of religious beliefs has helped me focus more on things that are REAL and has made me a better person. It certainly hasn't diminished my celebration of Christmas any. Bob NP: Jeff Buckley, "Mojo Pin" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:17:54 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: JMLD, JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho and broken TV photos Rian wrote: OK. Jericho. I know this song is about the willingness of someone to love, but, what is the relation of these lines with the topic : The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me You and your dogs Rian. How many other places are dogs mentioned in Joni's songs? Also, are Joni's photography masterpieces online anywhere? Like the broken TV ones? Love, Laura PS. My mother's sister died yesterday at 4pm. She had cancer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:43:31 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of 2008 > From: "Cassy" > Subject: Best of 2008 - Cassy's List > > I look forward to reading other people's choices and nodding in agreement or > shaking my head or thinking "duh!" why wasn't that on MY list. > > Hi, Cassy, I wasn't impressed enough this year to even find ten albums that I could recommend (based upon what I'd heard of them) but I DO think several are worthwhile, among your choices, like > > Brian Eno & David Byrne, Everything That Happens Will Happen Today > (Sounds good but I'll have to hear the whole thing before I commit to buy it) > > Joe Jackson - Rain > (One of only TWO albums I bought this year that I consider a GREAT album, from beginning to end) > > Martha Wainwright - I Know You're Married But I've Got Feelings Too > (Again, from what I've heard, it sounds good) I also bought Randy Newman's "Harps & Angels"; I think it's good, but not one of his best. And my OTHER great album choice, from start to finish? Tony Bennett's "A Swingin' Christmas" with the Count Basie Big Band. The legend continues to impress me. Kenny B ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:37:57 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Jericho >OK. Jericho... What is the relation of these lines with the topic : JM said, >>The wild and the gentle dogs >>Kenneled in me Here's what it means to me: One of her feelings is being bound up, like a dog in a kennel. 'Release' is one of Joni's major themes, eh? Like in "All I Want" where she's >>Looking for the key to set me free Or in "Let the Wind Carry Me" >>Papa knows somehow he set me free All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Eartha Kitt njc RIP Good-bye Eartha Kitt, sweet songbird flying home along with a Royal Marine and Harold Pinter...maybe in Heaven we can all innocently kiss each other on Main Street once again. Adios Preciosa Angelita Negra, Jeannie Dedicated to Joni and Everyone on the JMDL: C'est Si Bon {It's So Good} ~~sung by Eartha Kitt~~ C'est si bon So I say to you Like the French people do Because it's, oh, so good Every word, every sigh, Every {spiritual hug and}kiss, dearests Lends to only one thought And it's this, dear ones Nothing else can replace Just your slightest embraces And if you would only be my own For the rest of my days I will whisper this phrase, "My Darling ones, c'est si bon {here on the JMDL."} - --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Jamie Zubairi Home wrote: > From: Jamie Zubairi Home > Subject: Eartha Kitt njc RIP > To: "Joni JMDL" > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 3:59 AM > Not only did we lose a Royal Marine on Christmas day in > Afghanistan but Also > the nobel Lit winner Harold Pinter and the wonderful Eartha > Kitt. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7799852.stm > > > -- > Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to > charity? go to: > http://www.justgiving.com/zooby > > Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at > > http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 > > acting CV and showreel at > http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 > > agent: http://www.pelhamassociates.co.uk > 01273 323 010 > http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk > href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Jamie_Zubairi/507811540">Facebook > me! > > Everest Blog: > http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: what matters most njc When my son was 15 years old I enrolled him in a high school seminary which was the finest in academics and really expensive to attend. He was learning so many things that no other local school could really compete academically---UNTIL the disaster of an ex-police turned priest molested several of the boys there and my son lost all his Catholic faith and everything got topsy-turvy. He refuses to enter a church and considered himself an "Atheist" up until about three years ago and he's now 31 years old and says he is just "agnostic" now because he feels the power of something higher and has experienced a few things since then no less than "miraculous" but he cannot forget what he witnessed at that "Gucci Seminary" which had to be shut down once after the scandal broke loose years later and that pedophile/policeman/priest is now in prison after they gave him so, so, so many chances to rehabilitate himself in rural parishes or re-treat centers, but the FBI caught him like two or three times more downloading kiddie-porn while he was hidden away somewhere. So, I'm not a blind Catholic myself. I know what goes on and how and that's why I'm very selective to the Catholic places and the spiritual gardens and grottos and old churches I love to go to and my spirit flies in ecstasy like Teresa of Avila's spirit from Spain did too in the 1500's thinking of Jesus Christ when I'm all alone in my secret space. Sincerely, Jeannie PS: I have met a few priests and nuns that had to have been angels walking on earth and that is totally the truth and because of them I can never fully walk away from my Catholic faith even if I don't socialize any longer through the mass or other celebrations. It's for me the way Van Morrison put it: ~~Just you and I and Nature in the garden and the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit--all misty wet with rain {and the purest of love all around)~~ PSII: I think the Catholics Church's only hope for a solid survival shall be to let the Women in at every level, once and for all. - --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Susan Guzzi wrote: > From: Susan Guzzi > Subject: Re: what matters most njc > To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca, "Mark-Leon Thorne" > Cc: "Mags" , "Rian Afriadi" , "jonipeople" , "dally mclaughlin" > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 8:46 AM > Well I am a day late here, as far as Christmas goes. But I > wanted to say to > Mags and Mark, how much you both created the often missing > spirit of the > holiday. Thank you for your beautiful gentle reminders. > > Secondly Mark, I too am an atheist - who has never stopped > celebrating > Christmas. I know for me and what I know of you ... that > being an atheist > does not mean you can't be a romantic or a dreamer or > loving or happy or > altruistic and on and on. It only means I don't > believe in Jesus and or > God. Neither I nor you are a hypocrite if we choose to > partake. > > I am not insulted by nativity scenes or religious display. > I love it all. > I love being immersed in the joy of all people thinking > and reading from the > same page for a day or two. Spreading love and good will > ... breaking bread > and holding hands .... reconnecting ... giving ... sharing > ... celebrating > life and using the guise of the season to do so. These are > not foreign > rituals to us as atheists. We are not haters - we are > human. So celebrate > Mark. A good human being is far greater than one who > believes only as an > insurance policy! Believe me, being raised Catholic I have > met a few of those > types. > > Happy Boxing Day and Merry rest of the Christmas Season to > all ... and now I > must get back to work! > > Peace, > Susan > (from Connecticut now - Chicago originally) > > --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Mark-Leon Thorne > wrote: > > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: Re: what matters most njc > To: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > Cc: "Mags" , > "Rian Afriadi" , > "jonipeople" , "dally > mclaughlin" > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 6:24 PM > > Hello my dear friends. It's Boxing Day here in > Australia but I guess > it's still Christmas Day in Canada and other parts of > the world. I am so > overwhelmed with your outpouring of love to me. I never > expected that. I feel > a > little pathetic, having mentioned my loneliness. That was > not the purpose of > my > original message. I just wanted to wish you all love and > happiness and single > you out by mentioning where you all are. I tried to imagine > myself in your > hometown, thinking about the weather, location, atmosphere. > I did not mean to > focus on my own situation. I am trying to find the > positives here - the > gorgeous > weather we are having, the sound of a crow, black and > ragged, flying tree to > tree, calling to its mates. The essence of Summer and > imagining the various > atmospheres being experienced by you all. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:02:08 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Songs that could make me cry On 22-Dec-08, at 10:11 PM, PassScribe@aol.com wrote: "I'm generally quite sensitive and can easily cry during certain scenes or passages in films or books, but not as likely with songs." I'm just the opposite, I can read the most heart-rending things without shedding a tear, even the lyrics to songs don't move me ... until they are set to music, which draws out my emotion in a powerful and immediate way. Tears onscreen will do the same thing, but rarely words alone. Joni's "Little Green" is another song that evokes profound sadness in me. When, at the end, she draws out the last word "Sometimes there'll be soooooooorrow...." I know that she is talking about her own grief at losing that child, and that she knows her own sorrow will be recurring. Kate, starting Boxing Day with Bailey's in coffee (after breakfast, of course; I'm not *completely* foolish) Stubblejumpers Cafe http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com or the cook's diary... Who Does She Think She Is, Anaos Nin? at http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:10:23 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: broken TV photos Low-ra Stanley wrote: Also, are Joni's photography masterpieces online anywhere? Like the broken TV ones? >> Waddaya mean with broken TV, Lowra? The ones on Shadows and Light album? Or *your* TV set? Rian PS. Quoting Patti quoting Lennon : If Lowra Stanley demanded peace instead of another tv set, then there'd be peace. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:49:25 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Smurf called! :-( I tried to call him today and he could not hear me. He sounded grogy and tired and a little grumpy which I know how that is when you are hurting. Thanks to everyone for the reports though. I am hoping to have a chat with him this week. Did you call him on his cell or on the room phone. Luv Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Dec 26, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: Dear Smurfers: YES!!! "All I want for Christmas is Yu-ooh-ooh, BABY!" My cellphone rang, buried in my purse. I was busy w/ something...again and again the same situation that I just let voicemail pick up, but this time something compelled me to get it right away. When I saw "SMURF" on the screen, I DO know why my heart flipped. I only know it did. I could not believe my eyes. I have not spoken with him in a long time. I left him a vm yesterday, but never expected to hear back from him. Unable to contain my joy, I flip open the phone to say, right out loud: "BOBBY! I LOVE YOU!" In a tired, slurry/furry voice, I hear: "Have you been drinking?" (LOL...that Smurf. He still doesn't miss a beat.) ("He tried hard to help me, you know, he put me at ease.") Me (laughing it all away): No! I'm eating a Christmas cookie and drinking skim milk. Smurf said something about a New Year's cookie. I think he said he wants a New Year's cookie. (TIC! "In the cookie I read...") (I'm trying to remember the whole conversation, but it's hard. I was so so surprised by his call, and then I got a little nervous. Unprepared. What do you say? So, comme d'habitude, I just started babbling -- cellphone babbling -- and paused for his replies. It was hard for him to talk, I know, so I tried to fill in the spaces). Me: So....how *are* Yu? I hear you saw Maggie today. Smurf: Yes. She asked about the "Shirley Yu" thing. I tried to explain. I don't know if she understood. She's a "borderline fan". (This was said with affection and respect, Maggie. Some kind of a joke.) Me: So she's out on some borderline? Smurf: Yes. I said something about Kitty Welles, and he said "She didn't get that either." Me: So, how are you feeling? Smurf: Tired. Sleepy. Me: Are you comfortable there? Is it a nice place? Smurf: Yes. I'm sleeping a lot. The visits are overwhelming. (He said this in a both sides now kind of way....the love is good, but he is tired at the same time.) Me: You must feel like you're dreaming. "I feel like I'm sleeping, can you wake me?" Pause. Me: That's a Joni line. Smurf: I know, Shirl. I know. That's how it feels. Me: I'm so glad you got the Wally book. I guess you haven't been able to read, though. Smurf: I couldn't read a paragraph. But that one page...that he wrote to me. Me: I know. I'm so glad about that. That is all you needed to read, that one page. (For those who don't know: Smurf always wanted me to ask Wally Lamb if he knew that Joni was not at Woodstock. Wally wrote on the title page of his new novel: "To Bob Murphy: Joni was NOT at Woodstock -- I know THIS much is true -- but maybe she was there in spirit? Wally Lamb") Me: Have you seen Jody today? (Jody told me she and Scott were setting out at 8:30 a.m. today to see him, when Smurf called to tell them not to come because he was throwing up. Breaks your heart to hear him suffering. Jody has said they were going to try again later.) Smurf: She is on her way. (It was 5:11 p.m when he called.) Me: Oh, that's good! Give her a hug for me. Smurf: I will. I don't know what else we said in those 3 min and 40 seconds of Conversation. Comfort. Consultation. I definitely got the feeling that he was calling to comfort me rather than the other way around. I knew it was a real effort for him to speak -- his voice was very weak -- and that it was time to hang up. I can't remember exactly how we said goodbye, the words, but it was (holding back from crying now)....difficult. But very very loving. He definitely is surrounded by love and he knows it. Thank you so much for your reports, Chuck and Anne and Maggie, from the past two days. This call from him tonight was my best Christmas gift, for sure. "The gift goes on...." Big pin-me-in-the-corner-and-he-won't-take-no Smurf hug, with love, to all, Patti P. > To: c.eisenhardt@earthlink.net; anne@sandstrom.com > CC: stephen_epstein@hugoboss.com; ashara@aol.com; alisone4@yahoo.com; anima_rising@yahoo.ca;aurabright@supanet.com; fmyfl@aol.com ; johnsonjs100@comcast.net; jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com; kay@kayashley.com;lesirvin@gmail.com ; lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk; michael@thepazgroup.com; nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net ; pleader@nyc.rr.com;pm_holden@yahoo.com; scjoniguy@yahoo.com; treegreen1@hotmail.com ; loveuconn@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: A Blue Christmas - Christmas with Smurph > From: maggie_mcnally@yahoo.com > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:37:26 +0000 > > Hello everyone - I have just left Bob and he sends greetings to all. While I was there one of his old bosses called & he told him not to come out because it takes too much of his energy. I tried to reassure him that we didn't care.. He did show a bit of his old self, but his energy is lagging behind his will to amuse. I brought him yet another Joni portrait - one with her huge smile - in hopes what her sunny smile will resonate. I got to see the photo card...wow, Jody, that was shear brilliance. > OK, not much more to report. He is in a good facility. I am grateful for that. > Be well. Maggie > ------Original Message------ > From: Chuck Eisenhardt > To: Anne Sandstrome > Cc: stephen_epstein@hugoboss.com > Cc: Ashara Stansfield > Cc: alisone4@yahoo.com > Cc: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > Cc: aurabright@supanet.com > Cc: fmyfl@aol.com > Cc: johnsonjs100@comcast.net > Cc: jrgoodspeed@yahoo.com > Cc: kay@kayashley.com > Cc: lesirvin@gmail.com > Cc: lievereckers@yahoo.co.uk > Cc: maggie_mcnally@yahoo.com > Cc: michael@thepazgroup.com > Cc: nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net > Cc: pleader@nyc.rr.com > Cc: pm_holden@yahoo.com > Cc: scjoniguy@yahoo.com > Cc: treegreen1@hotmail.com > Cc: loveuconn@hotmail.com > Sent: Dec 25, 2008 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: A Blue Christmas - Christmas with Smurph > > Thanks for this, Anne. I spoke with him around 8 PM. He's happy > there, I think. > I'm glad we all saw this day. ...C. > > > On Dec 25, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: > > > Hello everyone and Merry Christmas! > > > > I just got back from a visit with Bob. The hospice is only about 10 > > miles away, so not a long drive. > > > > Bob is in a lovely place. The hospice is quite nice. It was a > > residence previously. His room is bright and sunny and has a > > fireplace. The mantel and shelves are filled with cards and a print > > of Joni. > > > > I only visited for about a half hour. His sister and brother-in-law > > were there. I mentioned about everyone washing their kitchen floors > > in his honor, but he looked a bit puzzled at that. I'm thinking > > maybe he didn't quite hear me. But then I mentioned "It's a > > Wonderful Life," and he explained to his sister that he always had > > said that people don't show up at your doorstep with buckets of > > money, but then that last year that really did happen for him. (I > > know I have him a bunch of gift cards from Whole Foods and I > > imagine lots of others did something similar.) > > > > To be honest, he looks gaunt and tired. I think the spirit of Bob > > is flickering a bit. But I'm glad I got to see him today of all > > days. I told him I loved him and said "I'll see you again" as I was > > leaving, but to be honest, I'm not sure that's true. We'll see. Oh, > > and I did bring him a couple of candy canes. (Not to eat, but just > > to look at - I don't think anyone eats them anyway.) > > > > Well, that's all. I'm so grateful to know Bob and all of you - and > > to be in the place I am. That's the best gift of all. > > > > lots of love, > > Anne > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista.. See how ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:05:49 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: broken TV photos Rian wrote: > > Low-ra Stanley wrote: > > Also, are Joni's photography masterpieces online > anywhere? Like the broken TV ones? > > >> > Waddaya mean with broken TV, Lowra? The ones on Shadows and > Light album? Or *your* TV set? > > > Rian > PS. Quoting Patti quoting Lennon : If Lowra Stanley > demanded peace instead of another tv set, then there'd > be peace. Hiya Ree, Pictures Joni took of the broken TV. It is Lore-ah. Piece man. Love, Laura ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #335 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------