From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #334 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, December 26 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 334 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: NJC for you Librarians ["Mark Angelo" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2008 #333 [Bruce Eggleston ] Hallelujah NJC ["Mike Pritchard" ] Obama NJC ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: Hallelujah NJC [Garret ] JMLD JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Obama NJC ["Cassy" ] what matters most njc [Mags ] Re: what matters most njc [Rian Afriadi ] Re: what matters most njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: what matters most njc [Jeannie ] Re: what matters most njc [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: Obama NJC [anon anon ] NJC Re: It Don't Snow Here [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #274 [StDoherty@aol.com] Best of 2008, sjc + why i don't like rap (the genre) [Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: NJC for you Librarians Those are by and large some very elaborately detailed, ornately adorned libraries - they must have been constructed during the relatively rare (in the scope of human history) periods of peace and prosperity when abstract intellectual pursuits and individual liberties flourished. Phoenix has a very large fairly new library downtown off of Central Avenue, similar to that in Seattle described by Mark in that it is a massive construct of glass and metal, however the overall shape is quite different. The views are quite panoramic, you'd think there would be less extensive use of glass in the middle of the Sonoran desert, however, as I recall there a large amounts of metal that extend horizontally that provide some shading from the rising Eastern and setting Western sun. It's also designed so that on exactly one day of the year, that being the Summer Solstice, sunlight streams in overhead through specially positioned glass. The oddest thing that struck me about it, are the large pools of water that are located on the first floor, the moisture from which can circulate to all parts of the building, as it has such an open design. I'd have thought water would be problematical in a library, but perhaps the dryness of the desert air (not counting "Monsoon" season approximately July - mid-September) is a factor? Monument to the city which fashioned itself after the legendary Egyptian bird that arose from the ashes - or monstrosity that is a relic of an era of American culture of unprecedented greed and corruption? Time will soon tell I suppose... - - - --Mark in Florida On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mark Scott wrote: > I wondered if the Seattle library would be on this web page. While > scrolling through it and seeing all of the beautiful, old, mostly European > libraries, I thought, well, I doubt they have the Seattle library listed > since it is almost brand new and very contemporary. But there it was. It is > kind of like a big glass, oddly shaped box. It is situated just 1 block from > where I work. On days when the weather is bad and I need to get out of the > office for lunch, I go up there and walk around the library. > > Mark in Seattle > who sometimes thinks he should have been a librarian > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:15 AM > Subject: NJC for you Librarians > > > > 20 of the World's most beautiful Libraries: >> >> http://www.oddee.com/item_96527.aspx >> >> Bob >> > - -- - -Mark in Florida ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:00:16 -0700 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2008 #333 Dear Kate, We live so far in the outback that the wind needs a green card just to blow here. The school bus only stops once in the fall and comes back in the spring. The crop-duster also delivers the mail. When you come out here you must set your clock back 20 years. Irrigation boots are a fashion statement. We only have a three-digit Zip code. Some folks here are still waiting for the results of the Kennedy/ Nixon election. Dogs have sufferage and some have been elected to office. Folks serve Rocky Mountain Oysters at spring get-to-gethers. Etc. Merry Christmas to one and all, Bonneville Bruce Sunnyslope, Idaho > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:06:32 -0600 > From: Kate Johnson > Subject: Re: It Don't Snow Here > > On 24-Dec-08, at 2:35 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > > "To you in Winnipeg, Lund, Greenville, Seattle, Oslo, London, > Toronto, Sydney, Atlanta, Montreal, San Diego, Los Angeles, Glasgow, > New Jersey, Ohio, Florida, Malaysia, New Zealand, France, Spain, > Italy and in your city." > > Does anyone on this list live out in the countryside, like I do? I > mean in seriously rural country, as opposed to an acreage near a > city? Or am I the only bumpkin? That can't be. > > For the past week it's been 40-below or colder at night. During > daylight hours it's been a balmy 20-below. A nice white Christmas, > anyway. I am staying close to my cosy house, woodstove burning hard, > and feeling sorry for all those travellers stranded in airports right > now because of heavy snowfall messing up the airports. At least > they're safe and warm, if not comfortable, but still ... I'd rather > be me. > > Happy holidays to all of you, > Kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:10:58 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Hallelujah NJC http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/22/hallelujah-leonard-cohen-alexandra-burke 'Hallelujah' claims the No 1, No 2 and No 36 spots in the UK's Christmas top 40 yesterday. Alexandra Burke (no 1), Jeff Buckley (no 2) and Leonard Cohen himself sneaks into the top 40 at number 36. Weird, or what? How come no version by Cliff Richard? mike in bcn np tangled up in blue - Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:19:10 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Obama NJC Happy as I am that Obama will be the next President of the USA, and much as I would like him to be great president, I fear the backlash is already beginning and that he'll ultimately turn out to disappoint (as almost all politicians that I ever believed in). I hope I'm wrong, but in the words of two great pop songs: 'Don't follow leaders' and 'I get on my knees and pray, that we won't get fooled again'. You KNOW there are more. Be very careful out there. Best wishes to everyone out there in joniland, mike in Barcelona np Dylan  You're a big girl now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:04:16 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: Hallelujah NJC Don't give him ideas Mike! I love the song, and i think that Alexandra has a great voice, but her version really loses the emotional impact captured by Buckley (it's really a cover of that version), Cohen, Rufus, KD Lang and so many others. Hopefully this will help to fill Cohen's coffers once more. Happy christmas, Garret On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/22/hallelujah-leonard-cohen-alexandra-burke > > 'Hallelujah' claims the No 1, No 2 and No 36 spots in the UK's Christmas > top > 40 yesterday. Alexandra Burke (no 1), Jeff Buckley (no 2) and Leonard Cohen > himself sneaks into the top 40 at number 36. > > Weird, or what? How come no version by Cliff Richard? > > mike in bcn > > np tangled up in blue - Dylan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:07:52 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: JMLD JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho First of all, Merry Christimas for you who celebrate it. For those who don't, happy holiday. OK. Jericho. I know this song is about the willingness of someone to love, but, what is the relation of these lines with the topic : The wild and the gentle dogs Kenneled in me Rian NP. Joni - Banquet - Live At Red Rocks (1983) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:42:21 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: JMLD JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho I always thought of the dogs as a symbol of her passions. The wild and gentle passions residing in her. Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays everyone! Jack **************Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that will have people talking. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000021) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:16:37 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2008 #333 Sounds just like home! Here, all this time, I've thought you lived in Bonneville, Alberta. Kate Stubblejumpers Cafe http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com or the cook's diary... Who Does She Think She Is, Anaos Nin? at http://xoetc.antville.org On 25-Dec-08, at 5:00 AM, Bruce Eggleston wrote: Dear Kate, We live so far in the outback that the wind needs a green card just to blow here. The school bus only stops once in the fall and comes back in the spring. The crop-duster also delivers the mail. When you come out here you must set your clock back 20 years. Irrigation boots are a fashion statement. We only have a three-digit Zip code. Some folks here are still waiting for the results of the Kennedy/ Nixon election. Dogs have sufferage and some have been elected to office. Folks serve Rocky Mountain Oysters at spring get-to-gethers. Etc. Merry Christmas to one and all, Bonneville Bruce Sunnyslope, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:24:14 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Obama NJC Keep in mind all of the fabricated emails prior to Obama's election. I don't think the propaganda train stops after November... it keeps on spinning it's bullshit. While many of the things being reported are fact, I do keep a somewhat open mind as the media reports come in because of the spin-doctors and the republicans who can't wait to say "we told you so." Merry Christmas, Cassy NP: Joan Baez - Ave Maria If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Pritchard" To: "list" Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 4:19 AM Subject: Obama NJC > Happy as I am that Obama will be the next President of the USA, and much > as > I would like him to be great president, I fear the backlash is already > beginning and that he'll ultimately turn out to disappoint (as almost all > politicians that I ever believed in). I hope I'm wrong, but in the words > of > two great pop songs: 'Don't follow leaders' and 'I get on my knees and > pray, > that we won't get fooled again'. You KNOW there are more. Be very careful > out there. > > Best wishes to everyone out there in joniland, > > mike in Barcelona > > np Dylan  You're a big girl now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:33:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: what matters most njc it's christmas morning here in winnipeg, a well hidden treasure of a place, often referred to as a jewel on the prairie. . it is here that i have learned what matters most. there's not a lot of financial wealth in our faire city (although some does exist). for the most part, this is a place ridden with poverty, like a silent scream. and yet, i work as a volunteer in the underground tunnels of this community and therein lies the most joyful noise. nary a dime to rub between fingers, but you'll be greeted with kindness, smiles, laughter. of course i've known this for my entire life, however it is a profound most lesson i share today, based on connections with family and friends, friends who become family, family who become friends. since my lovely new found friend mark in sydney has mentioned that he is lonely, feeling alone, despite his feelings, he still reaches out to this wonderful joni community of ours with his incredible artistic talents. his generosity of spirit is something that i draw attention to today. he has given me a gift that grew out of a conversation one night..... mark has given an incredible gift to two people on this planet. once upon a time, aforementioned two people who grew up at opposite ends of the same home town. synchronicity played her hand, two lives became imprinted, one to another. you know how it is when you meet someone and you feel you've known them forever. well, such was the case for he and she. they worked together as volunteers in a social services community. one evening, his shift followed hers. it was in that moment that a connection that was to span a life time began. one of their common threads was a love for joni mitchell. that was the foundation of many conversations to come. one fateful summer, he went away. and she never saw him again. she held onto a photograph of him petting a kangaroo, in the realm of his new country he chose to call home. sydney, australia. many years later, on a night filled with magic, she is talking to someone on the list who just so happens to live in the samesaid city where her friend moved 30 years ago . she told him that she used to know someone from long ago that moved to sydney. one thing led to another, the spark of a idea grew into mark calling someone with that name, the first call made was her friend! i thank you , mark, from my heart for bringing a dear friend back to me. a 30 year connection, after a few emails whipping back and forth across the thousands of miles that separated us, then and now. old friends sharing the light and love of life. because of mark. yes, mark you have given me the gift of all time, the chance to reconnect with my lovely friend. you have made a difference to all of us on this list, with the gift of your time, talent and genuine caring for others. may you feel a little bit less alone in this moment, knowing that i wish we could all be together, sharing a meal, toasting to the blessings of synchronicity. much love and gratitude from your friend on the canadian prairie, Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: what matters most njc Mags wrote : i thank you , mark, from my heart for bringing a dear friend back to me. a 30 year connection, after a few emails whipping back and forth across the thousands of miles that separated us, then and now. old friends sharing the light and love of life. because of mark. yes, mark you have given me the gift of all time, the chance to reconnect with my lovely friend. >>> Then i have to mentioned this : He connected me to my long-time-no-see uncle who lives in Tasmania, Australia. Rian NP. Carla Bruni - La Possibilite D'une Ille ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:24:50 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: what matters most njc Mark also offered to be tour-guide for my niece and her friend who were travelling in Australia a few years ago, and to put them up in his home if they needed it. They were travelling around, working when they could, and touring Australia for a few months. The fact that they didn't end up taking advantage of his offer is attributed to sporadic email availability and their not being in the right place at the right time, but I know that Mark's offer came from the heart. He's one of the very, very kind and gentle souls that I've had the pleasure to have met (some in person, most virtually) during my years on the jmdl. Mark, I read your email last night but was busy rushing around and couldn't respond in any coherent way (and no, I was not drunk) and I wanted to pick up the phone and call you but had no idea what the hell time it was in Australia or what your phone number was. This will come off as sounding very lame but, you know you are never truly alone with all the Joni friends around the world. Sometimes the Christmas season, whether or not you celebrate it, amplifies the feeling of loneliness because people tend to bugger off and get caught up in parties and family things (willingly or not). Probably a good time to listen to some Joni music and to enjoy some good food and think about what's past and what is yet to come and hope that what is yet to come is good times. Joni people have been there for me in the past when I've been feeling way down and out and for that and all the kindness I am truly grateful. - --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Rian Afriadi wrote: > From: Rian Afriadi > Subject: Re: what matters most njc > To: "Mags" > Cc: "jonipeople" > Received: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 2:07 PM > Mags wrote : > > i thank you , mark, from my heart for bringing a dear > friend back to me. a 30 > year connection, after a few emails whipping back and forth > across the > thousands of miles that separated us, then and now. old > friends sharing the > light and love of life. because of mark. yes, mark you have > given me the gift > of all time, the chance to reconnect with my lovely friend. > > > >>> > > Then i have to mentioned this : > He connected me to my long-time-no-see uncle who lives in > Tasmania, > Australia. > > > > Rian > NP. Carla Bruni - La Possibilite D'une Ille ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: what matters most njc Mags, that was sooo kind and touching. I am blessed with your words, too, just at this moment of the world. Truly, Jeannie In the church they light the candles (of Christmas) And the wax rolls down like tears There is the hope and the hopelessness (You've) I've witnessed 30 years ~~And we go round and round and round in this Circle Game~~ - --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Mags wrote: > From: Mags > Subject: what matters most njc > To: mark-leon@iinet.net.au, joni@smoe.org > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 12:33 PM > it's christmas morning here in winnipeg, a well hidden > treasure of a place, > often referred to as a jewel on the prairie. . it is here > that i have learned > what matters most. there's not a lot of financial > wealth in our faire city > (although some does exist). for the most part, this is a > place ridden with > poverty, like a silent scream. and yet, i work as a > volunteer in the > underground tunnels of this community and therein lies the > most joyful noise. > nary a dime to rub between fingers, but you'll be > greeted with kindness, > smiles, laughter. of course i've known this for my > entire life, however it is > a profound most lesson i share today, based on connections > with family and > friends, friends who become family, family who become > friends. > > since my lovely new found friend mark in sydney has > mentioned that he is > lonely, feeling alone, despite his feelings, he still > reaches out to this > wonderful joni community of ours with his incredible > artistic talents. his > generosity of spirit is something that i draw attention to > today. he has given > me a gift that grew out of a conversation one night..... > > mark has given an incredible gift to two people on this > planet. once upon a > time, aforementioned two people who grew up at opposite > ends of the same home > town. synchronicity played her hand, two lives became > imprinted, one to > another. you know how it is when you meet someone and you > feel you've known > them forever. well, such was the case for he and she. > > they worked together as volunteers in a social services > community. one > evening, his shift followed hers. it was in that moment > that a connection that > was to span a life time began. one of their common threads > was a love for joni > mitchell. that was the foundation of many conversations to > come. > > one fateful summer, he went away. and she never saw him > again. she held onto a > photograph of him petting a kangaroo, in the realm of his > new country he chose > to call home. sydney, australia. > > many years later, on a night filled with magic, she is > talking to someone on > the list who just so happens to live in the samesaid city > where her friend > moved 30 years ago . she told him that she used to know > someone from long ago > that moved to sydney. one thing led to another, the spark > of a idea grew into > mark calling someone with that name, the first call made > was her friend! > > i thank you , mark, from my heart for bringing a dear > friend back to me. a 30 > year connection, after a few emails whipping back and forth > across the > thousands of miles that separated us, then and now. old > friends sharing the > light and love of life. because of mark. yes, mark you have > given me the gift > of all time, the chance to reconnect with my lovely friend. > > you have made a difference to all of us on this list, with > the gift of your > time, talent and genuine caring for others. may you feel a > little bit less > alone in this moment, knowing that i wish we could all be > together, sharing a > meal, toasting to the blessings of synchronicity. > > much love and gratitude from your friend on the canadian > prairie, > > Mags > > > i exist as i am, that is enough > ~walt whitman~ > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and > bookmark your favourite > sites. Download it now at > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:24:33 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: what matters most njc Hello my dear friends. It's Boxing Day here in Australia but I guess it's still Christmas Day in Canada and other parts of the world. I am so overwhelmed with your outpouring of love to me. I never expected that. I feel a little pathetic, having mentioned my loneliness. That was not the purpose of my original message. I just wanted to wish you all love and happiness and single you out by mentioning where you all are. I tried to imagine myself in your hometown, thinking about the weather, location, atmosphere. I did not mean to focus on my own situation. I am trying to find the positives here - the gorgeous weather we are having, the sound of a crow, black and ragged, flying tree to tree, calling to its mates. The essence of Summer and imagining the various atmospheres being experienced by you all. I was so bored, I watched the Queen's Christmas Message, the Pope's Christmas Message and even Barack Obama's Christmas Message on TV. Oh yes, and even Kevin Rudd gave a little speech about the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. He announced an injection of funds to deal with homelessness. We're finally on the right track. I don't need to be Catholic to know that performing unselfish acts on a regular basis makes your life worthwhile no matter how bad things get. This was the focus of the Pope's message. To know that a little effort can go a long way to making someone feel good makes all the difference to my own sense of worth. It takes almost no effort at all to offer what little I have to someone who may be in need of just that. To make someone feel welcome and give a feeling of security in an unfamiliar place or to make a simple phone call. When they can make such a difference to someone's life and cost you so little, why would you even hesitate? Cassy knows this all too well. She is being mother to all who drop by today. She took time out to chat with me and check that I was alright. I will never forget that kindness and will keep your Christmas card for the rest of my life as a reminder that someone cared. I guess everybody gets a little melancholy at this time of year. The fact that I don't celebrate Christmas because I don't want to seem like a hypocrite, being an atheist, doesn't stop those memories flooding back of my childhood, sitting around the Christmas tree, opening presents and getting ready for the big meal. I'm not sure if I would have continued that tradition if I had my own kids but childhood memories are the sweetest ones. Remembering the lengths my mother would go to to keep some surprises and staying up all night to haul out the gifts she had hidden away from prying eyes and sneaky snoops. Knowing now that the look on her children's faces as they discover that there was even more in store than they thought was what she treasured most. No need to fake the surprised look. I know what it's all about now. It is the most wonderful feeling in the world. It is the most worthwhile work you can do. I have no children but I must achieve that feeling somehow. It is what makes life worthwhile. We have the power to make people happy. I can not waste that power. We all deserve that happiness. It doesn't need to stop once we are no longer a child. For the Star Trek fans, I always remember the line Captain Janeway said to Seven of Nine (a Borg), "Random acts of kindness. It's what makes us human". The small efforts can make a huge difference to someone else. Thank you all for your kindness. Mark. On 26/12/2008, at 6:24 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Mark also offered to be tour-guide for my niece and her friend who > were travelling in Australia a few years ago, and to put them up in > his home if they needed it. They were travelling around, working > when they could, and touring Australia for a few months. The fact > that they didn't end up taking advantage of his offer is attributed > to sporadic email availability and their not being in the right > place at the right time, but I know that Mark's offer came from the > heart. > > He's one of the very, very kind and gentle souls that I've had the > pleasure to have met (some in person, most virtually) during my > years on the jmdl. > > Mark, I read your email last night but was busy rushing around and > couldn't respond in any coherent way (and no, I was not drunk) and > I wanted to pick up the phone and call you but had no idea what the > hell time it was in Australia or what your phone number was. > > This will come off as sounding very lame but, you know you are > never truly alone with all the Joni friends around the world. > Sometimes the Christmas season, whether or not you celebrate it, > amplifies the feeling of loneliness because people tend to bugger > off and get caught up in parties and family things (willingly or > not). Probably a good time to listen to some Joni music and to > enjoy some good food and think about what's past and what is yet to > come and hope that what is yet to come is good times. Joni people > have been there for me in the past when I've been feeling way down > and out and for that and all the kindness I am truly grateful. > > > --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Rian Afriadi wrote: > >> From: Rian Afriadi >> Subject: Re: what matters most njc >> To: "Mags" >> Cc: "jonipeople" >> Received: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 2:07 PM >> Mags wrote : >> >> i thank you , mark, from my heart for bringing a dear >> friend back to me. a 30 >> year connection, after a few emails whipping back and forth >> across the >> thousands of miles that separated us, then and now. old >> friends sharing the >> light and love of life. because of mark. yes, mark you have >> given me the gift >> of all time, the chance to reconnect with my lovely friend. >> >> >>>>> >> >> Then i have to mentioned this : >> He connected me to my long-time-no-see uncle who lives in >> Tasmania, >> Australia. >> >> >> >> Rian >> NP. Carla Bruni - La Possibilite D'une Ille > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. > Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http:// > ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:17:24 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: RE: Obama NJC > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:19:10 +0100> From: mikeprit@gmail.com> To: joni@smoe.org> Subject: Obama NJC> > Happy as I am that Obama will be the next President of the USA, and much as> I would like him to be great president, I fear the backlash is already> beginning and that he'll ultimately turn out to disappoint (as almost all> politicians that I ever believed in). I hope I'm wrong, but in the words of> two great pop songs: 'Don't follow leaders' and 'I get on my knees and pray,> that we won't get fooled again'. You KNOW there are more. Be very careful> out there.> > Best wishes to everyone out there in joniland,> > mike in Barcelona> > np Dylan  You're a big girl now. I agree with you, but regardless, Obama will certainly be a lot better then Bush.(of course, a worm would be better as president then Bush... well, actually bush is a worm, but that's a different story)and thank God that John Mcinsane didn't win! _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: NJC Re: It Don't Snow Here It DOES snow here but as it happens to be, we are having a green Christmas. I can't remember the last time we had a white Christmas. But don't get me wrong. We've had snow. We've had some bad driving days already even though by the calendar winter just started. If the past couple of months weren't winter, then I don't know what is. We're at a cold (about 50-60 degrees too cold for me) 24 degrees today. However, we'll be at 44 tomorrow and 60 on Saturday. Thats Ohio for you. - -Monika - --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Jerry Notaro wrote: Sunny 80 degrees here in Tampa, Florida. Wish you were all here! Jerry Kate Johnson wrote: > On 24-Dec-08, at 2:35 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > For the past week it's been 40-below or colder at night. During > daylight hours it's been a balmy 20-below. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:50:32 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #274 In a message dated 12/25/2008 3:02:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Does anyone on this list live out in the countryside, like I do? I mean in seriously rural country, as opposed to an acreage near a city? Or am I the only bumpkin? I live amongst the dairy farmers .... but still within a half hour of the Capital city, **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Best of 2008, sjc + why i don't like rap (the genre) This is my list, but like my last year's list, i don't put Joni on the list because if I put Joni, there'll be no place for another artists (there are several Joni albums that I just discovered this year). And, my 2008 best is not only for albums released in 2008, but albums that I discovered this year. In no particular order : 1. Coldplay - Viva La Vida or Life and All His Friends plus Prospekt's March EP 2. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue 3. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme 4. Herbie Hancock - River The Joni Letter 5. Carly Simon - No Secret 6. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man 7. Patti Smith - Horses 8. PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love 9. Stevie Nicks - Bella Dona 10. T.Rex - Electric Warrior Only 1 2008 released album made it. There are so many great albums I discovered this year, but no hiphop/rap/R&B. I noticed that several listers praised Lil Wayne's Da Carter III. I haven't given the album a try. So I don't know. My last rap album that I love was Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. After that, i was chickened out with all those bling bling, N words, words that rhymes with F words, and most of the genre's music videos where they put women on its lowest point of view : only as a sexual object (i don't want my sister to be treated like that). Rian NP. Coldplay - Now My Feet Won't Touch The Ground ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:47:36 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: It Don't Snow Here/ Rufus Wainright NJC But I am here! Just got back from my sister's house in Brandon. Definitely on the warmer side. Going to see the Lightning play on Saturday so we'll get a little bit of winter chill. One of these days I'll make it over to St. Pete again...the time always seems to go by so quickly. I did have a question for you though. We listened to Rufus Wainright doing the Judy Garland concert on the way down from Atlanta and noticed near the end, on one of the pieces he tells the band, "Stop, stop...[I want to do this a little faster, pick it up, etc...] Did Judy Garland also do the same thing or was that just his own thing as I know he was trying to recreate the same show. Victor - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jerry Notaro" > Sunny 80 degrees here in Tampa, Florida. Wish you were all here! > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:46:32 -0500 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: JMLD JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : Jericho The first thing that came to mind when I just thought about those particular lyrics was Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love". From Song Facts: "This (song) is about the fear that rules all of us in one way or another, in particular the fear of love. The hounds of love that are hunting you is imagery for love itself as something to be feared, to run away from lest it catch you and rip you up." And scanning Kate's lyrics reminds me so very much of Joni's "Help Me" (I think I'm falling in love again). So perhaps Joni feels the confidence to let the walls come tumbling down (remove barriers - eliminate defense mechanisms) - as well as to let those "hounds of love" or those kenneled dogs within her to be set free, that is to say that primal sense of fear we can have to letting ourselves be open to experiencing love (because of past hurt and pain). - -- - -Mark in Florida On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:42 AM, wrote: > I always thought of the dogs as a symbol of her passions. The wild and > gentle passions residing in her. > > Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays everyone! > > Jack > > **************Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news > that > will have people talking. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000021) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: It Don't Snow Here/ Rufus Wainright NJC I believe he did this on his own, but I could be wrong. Richard??? waytoblue@comcast.net wrote: > But I am here! Just got back from my sister's house in Brandon. > Definitely on the warmer side. Going to see the Lightning play on > Saturday so we'll get a little bit of winter chill. > > One of these days I'll make it over to St. Pete again...the time always > seems to go by so quickly. > > I did have a question for you though. We listened to Rufus Wainright > doing the Judy Garland concert on the way down from Atlanta and noticed > near the end, on one of the pieces he tells the band, "Stop, stop...[I > want to do this a little faster, pick it up, etc...] Did Judy Garland > also do the same thing or was that just his own thing as I know he was > trying to recreate the same show. > > Victor > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Jerry Notaro" > >> Sunny 80 degrees here in Tampa, Florida. Wish you were all here! >> >> Jerry ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #334 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------