From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #331 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 23 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 331 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: njc, ice wine, clandestine [Catherine McKay ] Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc [Catherine McKay ] Songs that make me cry [Russell Bowden ] Re: songs that make me cry (NJC) and more about covers [Lieve Reckers ] Jane Olivor - njc ["Jerry Notaro" ] songs sung blue ~ re: songs that make me cry~ [Mags ] Re: Jane Olivor - njc [Jeannie ] Re: Inauguration njc [Vince ] Re: Inauguration NJC [Vince ] the lark ascending on youtube NJC [Mags ] Ladies of the Canyon advertisement ["Les Irvin" ] RE: Inauguration NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Ladies of the Canyon advertisement ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Did anyone else miss Monday's digest? NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Songs that could make me cry [PassScribe@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:40:37 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc > I always seem to get Randy Remote's posts after someone else has already responded.< Must be cuz he's livin off the grid up there in nocal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:59:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? Jim, my experience with my yahoo address, just in case it is the same with yours, is that you can never be 100% sure that all messages will arrive.B Now and then, and it seems to go in waves, certain emails never get to me at all, and I think also some of my mails never reach their destination.B I also experience the late deliveries that Catherine mentions, but sorry to say, some delays are "indefinite"! (And it's not the spam filter, either!) I'm sure I don't need to tell you Jim, but just in case anybody else has the same problem, I want to remind them that they can always catch up with digests by going to this site: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/ With my best seasonal wishes to all JMDL friends, Lieve. - ------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:16:09 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc Thanks for writing.B I remembered that JMDL posts sometimes go to your spam folder, so I already checked there.B No joy.B I think you're right that they'll show up eventually. [..............] Jim L'Hommedieu Catherine McKay wrote: B Any chance they're going straight to your spam folder? Or sometimes, they just show up late. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:23:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: songs that make me cry (NJC) I was first not going to do this, because to be honest I hardly ever really cry over a song, a book or a film.B I am always amazed when I read posts here saying how everybody "cried" over this or that.B Do you really, or are you talking metaphorically?B I often get a lump in my throat, but the times that I have felt tears in my eyes I can count on one hand, and "tears rolling over my cheeks" is definitely IB reaction I reserve for shocking and sad events in my own life, or at least in "real" life.B I'm not making a judgment at all,B mind you, just wondering! This probably makes me sound like a cold fish, which I don't think I am.B In fact I am riddled with emotions, often sad and melancholic, and films or songs often make a deep impact.B So anyway, if you can accept my "lump in the throat" as an equivalent for crying, then here is myB quick list, things that have always gripped and moved me. Nothing Compares (Prince's song as sung by Sinead O'Connor) Lilac Wine (Jeff Buckley, and even Elkie Brooks' earlier version) Stairway to Heaven,B first halfB (Led Zeppelin) In the Winter (Janis Ian) Ballad of the Sad Young Men (Roberta Flack) In My Time (The Beatles) If You Leave Me Now (Chicago) Both Sides NowB / Circle Game (Joni Mitchell) whenB I heard them the first 100 times or soB The Carter Family (Carly Simon) As Tears Go By (Marianne Faithful) I should also mention Without You (Nilsson), this made my son cry when he was about 4 or 5. All the best, Lieve in London. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:15:40 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, ice wine, clandestine - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Patti Parlette wrote: > Catherine! > > I just read this article and thought of you. > > http://www.courant.com/travel/hc-travniagarawines.artdec21,0,2756311.story > > It is produced in St Catharine's, when the pond > over-ices. Just south of you, > out on some borderline, some mark of inbetween you and > Marianne country. > > I have never heard of "ice wine", but you know > life is for learning. I've heard of it, but never tried it. I didn't realize it was so sweet but, having read the article, it makes sense, and now I know it's meant to be a dessert wine anyway. I've also heard about how expensive it is, and now I understand why that is so. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc - --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Kate Bennett wrote: > > I always seem to get Randy Remote's posts after > someone else has already > responded.< > > Must be cuz he's livin off the grid up there in nocal LOL - or maybe his posts get detained at the border. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: songs that make me cry (NJC) - --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Lieve Reckers wrote: > I was first not going to do this, because to be honest I > hardly ever really > cry over a song, a book or a film.B I am always amazed > when I read posts here > saying how everybody "cried" over this or that.B > Do you really, or are you > talking metaphorically?B I often get a lump in my throat, > but the times that > I have felt tears in my eyes I can count on one hand, and > "tears rolling over > my cheeks" is definitely IB reaction I reserve for > shocking and sad events in > my own life, or at least in "real" life.B > I'm not making a judgment at > all,B mind you, just wondering! > > This probably makes me sound like a cold > fish, which I don't think I am.B In fact I am riddled > with emotions, often > sad and melancholic, and films or songs often make a deep > impact.B So anyway, > if you can accept my "lump in the throat" as an > equivalent for crying, then > here is myB quick list, things that have always gripped and > moved me. > Lump in throat qualifies in my book. I can be a big suck and crybaby at times, so I do (literally) cry sometimes when I see films, read books, hear songs. Often i will try to hide the fact that I'm crying, of course. And it all depends on what else happens to be going on at the time and whether the particular film, book or song reminds me of something either unhappy or bittersweet going on in my life. But I cry when I get angry too and I absolutely hate that. I am incapable of doing lists and won't even try but a lot of songs that others have mentioned are tearjerkers for me too, and that includes Nilsson's version of "Without you" but not Mariah's. And Sinead's version of "Nothing compares 2 U" as well, although I hate the fact that it's "2 U" because I don't see the point of not spelling it correctly. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? 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Sorry...not really....just had to shovel a foot and a half on Russell's lawn....Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. Happy Holidays to all... Russ NP anything by Puccini....today is 150th bday...Un bel di vedremo, indeed!! Westbound and rollin' _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:03:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: songs that make me cry (NJC) and more about covers Catherine, I absolutely hate Mariah's version of Without You!B I was very proud of my sons, only little boys at the time, who also declared that that woman ruined their beloved Nilsson song! Now this talk of different cover versions forces me to mention something else that is in the headlines here in the UK these days, but may not have made it across the pond.B It's to do with Leonard Cohen's Haleluya being 3 times in the Christmas top 40, including the number 1 and 2 spot!!! It all started with the reality TV show the X Factor, very much like American Idol, also a Simon Cowell product.B Normally the winner gets to record some dreadfully blandB ballad, which almost automatically makes it to the Christmas number one seller.B But this time Simon Callow decided that the winner would record Haleluya.B Apparently he did not even know the wonderful 1994 Jeff Buckley version (who knows if he even knew Leonard Cohen!) but he had heard some other singer have a hit with it recently.B So Jeff Buckley fans started, via Face Book, a compaign of downloading the Buckley version, with the result that it is now number 2, which as a fervent Jeff Buckly fan, I am really happy with. The number one place is taken with the cover by the winner of the X Factor, Alexandra Birke, who to be honest is a nice girl with a great voice, so I wish her all the best, but of course these shows do just that: discover good singers, and good luck to them, but they will never discover another Joni or Bob or Leonard, or for that matter, Jeff. The conclusion is that most people are very pleased for Leonard Cohen, who we all know can do with the money since he was recently tricked out of it, and so the 3rd version in the chart, on the 36 spot, is the man Cohen himself! With my best wishes, Lieve. ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: jonipeople LIST ; Lieve Reckers Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2008 15:51:58 Subject: Re: songs that make me cry (NJC) - --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Lieve Reckers wrote: > I was first not going to do this, because to be honest I > hardly ever really > cry over a song, a book or a film.BB I am always amazed > when I read posts here > saying how everybody "cried" over this or that.B > Do you really, or are you > talking metaphorically?BB I often get a lump in my throat, > but the times that > I have felt tears in my eyes I can count on one hand, and > "tears rolling over > my cheeks" is definitely IB reaction I reserve for > shocking and sad events in > my own life, or at least in "real" life.B > I'm not making a judgment at > all,B mind you, just wondering! > > This probably makes me sound like a cold > fish, which I don't think I am.BB In fact I am riddled > with emotions, often > sad and melancholic, and films or songs often make a deep > impact.BB So anyway, > if you can accept my "lump in the throat" as an > equivalent for crying, then > here is myB quick list, things that have always gripped and > moved me. > Lump in throat qualifies in my book. I can be a big suck and crybaby at times, so I do (literally) cry sometimes when I see films, read books, hear songs. Often i will try to hide the fact that I'm crying, of course. And it all depends on what else happens to be going on at the time and whether the particular film, book or song reminds me of something either unhappy or bittersweet going on in my life. But I cry when I get angry too and I absolutely hate that. I am incapable of doing lists and won't even try but a lot of songs that others have mentioned are tearjerkers for me too, and that includes Nilsson's version of "Without you" but not Mariah's. And Sinead's version of "Nothing compares 2 U" as well, although I hate the fact that it's "2 U" because I don't see the point of not spelling it correctly. B B B __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:03:24 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC I have this album (Chasing Rainbows) and it was the album from my first live-in relationship. We used to play it at Christmas and make love under the Christmas tree or around it - LOL! As I get older songs have unbelievable sentiment and I can cry at times to so many songs and some that shouldn't make one cry. But that Jane Olivor album is on my list especially "Chasing Rainbows" and "You." OOh just thinking of that album is making me want to cry or .... you know what! Loving this thread - and wish I could limit the list - will try later maybe. Bye for now though and ... Peace, Susan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:17:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Jane Olivor - njc For you closeted Jane Olivor fans, do get her Safe Return concert dvd. She still has that magic. Jerry NP: Pentangle - Cruel Sister ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:23:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: songs sung blue ~ re: songs that make me cry~ geeze, i'm a blubbering eejit just now for having visited some of my sad songs list LOL! not in any particular order : living years - mike and the mechanics (synchronicity strikes again, this song was on the radio right after my father died, accompanied by our roaring tears) the leader of the band - dan folgelberg - a song about my dad, too. waa! sunshine on my shoulders - john denver annie's song two songs that provided a soundtrack for my brother Dave, played at the visitation as well as his funeral . reflecting the tender man that he was. these two songs in particular played spontaneously in shopping malls, on the radio, even in laundromats for a long while after his death. this is your song - elton john (see above) both sides now- orchestral version, made most poignant to me during the viewing of the brilliant most film, love, actually. severance - dead can dance good mother-jann a rden morning glory-performed by simon raymonde and anneli drecker dream letter-brendan perry blue melody-cousteau cover songs from the tribute to tim buckley album common threads-bobby mcferrin and his voicestra whilst this is instrumental, there is so much meaning, a song which levels me every time. i love this song so very much. beautiful - gordon lightfoot linda ronstadt - benediction-from jonathan elias-prayer cycle lover lay down-dave matthews if leaving me is easy - phil collins (face value) lark ascending - for queen lulu, especially now i will say that i do not cry at the drop of a hat, or a sad song, so much anymore. obviously in a much better, happier place in my life, now. love mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:58:21 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Subject: Inauguration njc > And then there are non-Democrats who supported Obama, > like me, who are not disturbed in the least... As well as lesbian Democrats, like me, who were hesitant but ended up voting for Obama, who are also not disturbed in the least by Obama's choice of Rick Warren ... It really is all about inclusion. Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:22:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Jane Olivor - njc Strike me up as another closeted Jane Olivor fan. How uncanny for these memories to just pop on up in my memory here on the JMDL. I would have forgotten the beauty of some enchanted evening if not for this place since my precious library of LPs got stolen in 1988. Jeannie - --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Jerry Notaro wrote: > From: Jerry Notaro > Subject: Jane Olivor - njc > To: "jon i" > Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 11:17 AM > For you closeted Jane Olivor fans, do get her Safe Return > concert dvd. She > still has that magic. > > Jerry > > NP: Pentangle - Cruel Sister ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:51:02 -0500 From: Vince Subject: Re: Inauguration njc Kate, you can well be right. Vince On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Kate Bennett wrote: > I don't draw the same conclusion that you do from this invitation Vince. > I've been invited (& have attended) a similar church several times by > people > who were aware of my progressive viewpoint. Their goal is the conversion > of > lost souls. Which means anyone who has a viewpoint different than theirs. > Having someone like Obama at their church is a feather in Warren's cap. > Being a religious person, however sincere, does not erase one's ego- in > fact > there is a special word for religious/spiritual leaders who use their > beliefs in service of their ego- it is called the spiritual ego. Kate > > > Vince >again, he invited Obama into his church which gave a clear message > that Warren had moved past the days of the > religious right versus the rest of us.< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:54:24 -0500 From: Vince Subject: Re: Inauguration NJC Kate, again, you make excellent points. Having been raised in the fundy wing of the church I find Warren less extreme than a whole host of others but your perspective may well be right. I as well share your views on being so incredibly tired of the right wing religious element being so prominent in our goverrnent. Vince On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Kate Bennett wrote: > Vince, thanks for your opinion, about the benediction being a bigger role. > It helps a little to consider this point. I do believe all opinions need to > sit at the table in hopes that the division can begin to heal in this > country, but at this time when the wounds of prop 8 in CA are so wide open, > giving someone like Warren such a prominent place at the inauguration (as > opposed to the table) is insulting & darkens what could have been a joyous > celebration. Warren's views are so extreme & I am so incredibly tired of > right wing religion playing a role in our government. Get the religion OUT > of politics! What is it about this country that has to be so flag waving > public about such things. Let it be a private matter, let it inspire > people > to do good in this world but let it stop being a force for the remaking of > god in the image of man/woman who then use it to elevate themselves & judge > others. > > Put aside the current issue for a moment, have you read his horrible > horrible comments on Terry Schivo (sp?)'s husband when he wanted her to be > allowed to be free of her body? I was raised a christian but am appalled > what some people have done to it in service of their narrow minds & big > egos. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:01:59 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: the lark ascending on youtube NJC here's a gorgeous interpretation of one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20yciExfo98 for lucy, for jane xx i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:32:42 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Ladies of the Canyon advertisement Joniphiles - Does anyone recall (or by some wild chance actually have a copy of) the advertisement that Rolling Stone did for the Ladies of the Canyon album? It was some silly, made up story about Joni portraying her as some sort of hipster or something. It's inanity began Joni's decade-long feud with the magazine. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:47:24 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Inauguration NJC I guess being raised fundy would make him seem pretty mild. I was raised in the very mild, loving, be a good neighbor, old fashioned christian way where people tried to model their lives after Jesus in spite of their human flaws & prejudices. They didn't try to convert people or judge others by what religion they were. The evangelistic approach is for my tastes, too loud, too gaudy, too theologically exlusive & too look at me i am a godly person! But yes Warren's moderation is what many reference as a potential bridge. Bridges are always a good thing. Either his integrity or intelligence is suspect if it is true that he voted for Prop 8 to protect churches from legal action as a result of Prop 8. Last time I looked freedom of religion was alive & well. Even the KKK are allowed to exist. I'm trying to let this whole thing go since it falls in the category of 'things I can't change'. In my more philosophical moments I think, well it certainly got the dialogue going! Kate > Kate, again, you make excellent points. Having been raised in the fundy wing of the church I find Warren less extreme than a whole host of others but your perspective may well be right. I as well share your views on being so incredibly tired of the right wing religious element being so prominent in our goverrnent. Vince < ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:09:45 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Ladies of the Canyon advertisement Les, The Amy Foster ad is here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/pdf.cfm?id=294 Reprise was responsible for this as they were for the Innuendo-laden "Joni Mitchell takes forever" "Joni Mitchell in 90% Virgin" and "Joni Mitchell finally comes across" campaign for Clouds It was the "Queen of El Lay" stuff in Rolling Stone that pissed her off. Stuart Henderson's article on Joni Mitchell & Gender is very good on this stuff: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1438 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:33 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Ladies of the Canyon advertisement Joniphiles - Does anyone recall (or by some wild chance actually have a copy of) the advertisement that Rolling Stone did for the Ladies of the Canyon album? It was some silly, made up story about Joni portraying her as some sort of hipster or something. It's inanity began Joni's decade-long feud with the magazine. Thanks, Les ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:18:07 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Greatest Concert Ever -- 200 years ago Hola Joniamigos! Interesting short read (and nice listen): "On this holiday week Monday, let's take a break from Barack, bailouts and Bush to contemplate the universe. Tomorrow marks the 200th anniversary of The Greatest Concert Ever. Fellow geezers: Forget the Beatles at Shea Stadium, Dylan in Manchester, the Stones at Altamont, Springsteen at the Bottom Line (I was even there) -- and you youngsters pick your fave from the past three decades. On December 22, 1808, Beethoven himself rented a hall in Vienna and promoted the concert to end all concerts:...." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/the-greatest-concert-ever_b_15280 4.html Peace, Patti P. npimh: Shine on Reverend PearsonWho threw away The vain old Godkept Dickens and Rembrandt and Beethoven... _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:47:19 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: songs sung blue ~ re: songs that make me cry~ There's a song on the CD Raising Sand by Alison Krauss and Robert Plant, called Your Long Journey. Anyone who's ever watched a loved one die, or watched someone else watch a loved one die, cannot keep a dry eye through this one, I'm sure. Kate of the Freezing Frigging North Stubblejumpers Cafe http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com or the cook's diary... Who Does She Think She Is, Anaos Nin? at http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: we3kings Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry The list just kept growing. guess this lurker's sensitive. Where is the Love? - Black-eyed Peas Victims of Comfort - Keb Mo The Weakness in Me - Joan Armatrading Where Will I Be? - Emmylou Is It Like Today? - Eliza Gilkyson The Water Is Wide - various Mercy, Mercy Me (the Ecology) - Marvin Gaye What's Goin' On - Marvin Gaye Children's Crusade - Sting Four Green Fields - Tommy Makem Little Miss S - New Bohemians With God on Our Side - Bob Dylan Masters of War - Bob Dylan Little Sister - Jewel Small Circle of Friends - Phil Ochs Fast Car - Tracy Chapman What's So Funny 'bout Peace, Love, and Understanding - Elvis Costello Needle and the Damage Done - Neil Young Lotta Love - Neil Young In the Ghetto - Elvis Presley Heaven is 10 Zillion Light Years Away - Stevie Wonder Living For The City - Stevie Wonder There's a Light Beyond These Woods - Nanci Griffith Everywhere Dance - Bruce Cockburn Joseph Cross - Eric Taylor Shameless Love - Eric Taylor and from our Joni: Cool Water Cherokee Louise Not to Blame Beat of Black Wings Ethiopia Strong and Wrong Nothing Can Be Done Same Situation Car on a Hill Passion Play Slouching Toward Bethlehem Blue Magdalene Laundries Harry's House Love Judgement Of The Moon And The Stars (Ludwig's Tune) The Sire Of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:16:39 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) The song "Red Dirt Girl" can get me choked up. Her friend's brother dies in Vietnam, then her friend dies too young. Sad. Sometimes "Fragile" (by Sting) will do it. It's a short list I guess. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:24:41 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) I forgot this one. When I saw the BSN tour, it moved me too. The way the strings swell, it felt like she had written her own epitaph or something. At the time, it felt like a farewell from Joni; like she had gone through all of the changes, and then end with BSN. Jim L. From: "Cassy" >And I will never forget the floodgates that opened the first time I heard "Both Sides Now" from the Both Sides Now CD.> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:26:26 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Did anyone else miss Monday's digest? NJC http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2008.n330 Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:02:26 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) How lovely that we got to share that experience, Jim. I won't forget giving you a ride to the show and meeting Gary there. Warmly, Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" To: ; Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) >I forgot this one. When I saw the BSN tour, it moved me too. The way the >strings swell, it felt like she had written her own epitaph or something. >At the time, it felt like a farewell from Joni; like she had gone through >all of the changes, and then end with BSN. > > Jim L. > > From: "Cassy" >>And I will never forget the floodgates that opened the first time I heard > "Both Sides Now" from the Both Sides Now CD.> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:11:49 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Songs that could make me cry Dflahm@aol.com wrote: Subject: songs that make me cry First of all, no apologies needed for including "For Good." Reconciliation is one of the most powerful and moving experiences available to us; Dickens certainly knew that. Strange you should mention that; I just saw a local theater production of Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" and there were many instances where I had to try hard to hold back my tears. For example, at the point where the ghost of Christmas present takes Scrooge to where the good Samaritans are bringing handouts to the poor and homeless, and he looks on to see one of the needy give HIS OWN gift to another person in the group. (I guess I'm more susceptible to melancholy feelings at this time of year) I'm generally quite sensitive and can easily cry during certain scenes or passages in films or books, but not as likely with songs. Those most apt to do it for me if I'm in a funky mood to begin with: "Keep Me In Your Heart For A While", by Warren Zevon (especially considering he made the album knowing he was going to die within months) "Fountain of Sorrow", and "For A Dancer", by Jackson Browne "River" (Joni) and, most of all, "Remember (Christmas)" by Harry Nilsson (I miss that man); Long ago, far away Life was clear Close your eyes Remember is a place from long ago Remember filled with everything you know Remember when you're sad and feelin' down Remember turn around Remember life is just a memory Remember close your eyes and you can see Remember think of all that life can be Remember-- Dream love is only in a dream Remember-- Remember life is never as it seems Dream-- Dream love is only in a dream Remember-- Remember life is never as it seems Dream-- Long ago, far away Life was clear Close your eyes-- Kenny B ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. 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