From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #330 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 22 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 330 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: JMDL Digest V2008 #329 [dally mclaughlin ] Re: songs that make me cry. NJC [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) ["Jeff Hankins" ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Inauguration NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Inauguration NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC ["Les Irvin" ] Inauguration njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) ["Mark Scott" ] songs that make me cry [Dflahm@aol.com] Songs that Make Me Cry (NJC) [] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) ["Mark Scott" ] Did anyone else miss these digests? njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #269 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc [Catherine McKay ] Paula Cole New Album review [Michael Paz ] RE: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC ["patrick leader" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #270 [StDoherty@aol.com] a Joni mention [Patti Parlette ] njc, ice wine, clandestine [Patti Parlette ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC ["Mark Scott" ] re: Re: into the wild njc - and other movies [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: songs that make me cry vljc [mia _ ] Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC ["Cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:33:26 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) Nice thread, Paul. Sadness is the strongest emotion I get from songs. I guess for most people, it is the songs that are linked to a sad occasion that touch the deepest. Here's my top ten songs that can bring me to tears. 1. The Last Time I Saw Richard - Joni Mitchell (I have bared my soul about this one in the past). 2. So Sad The Song - Gladys Knight and The Pips (obvious I know but it has links to a very special Aunt). 3. Two Grey Rooms - Joni Mitchell (ever since I found out the story behind it I relate to it). 4. A New Life - Linda Eder (word for word, expresses how I feel when I am in a deep depression). 5. Willow - Joan Armatrading (an uplifting song really but it reminds me of a time when I needed that willow). 6. Beauty and The Beast - Stevie Nicks ("...there is no beauty without my beast"). 7. Her Town Too - James Taylor (a song of regret). 8. If Leaving Me Is Easy - Phil Collins 9. Stars - Janis Ian (pure, raw honesty). 10. Jesus To a Child - George Michael (about the death of his Brazilian lover). Runners up: 1. Photographs and Memories - Jim Croci. 2. Cactus Tree - Joni Mitchell. 3. Fire and Rain - James Taylor. 4. Love's Recovery - Indigo Girls. 5. When Poets Dreamed of Angels - David Sylvian. 6. Shoot Me Down - Everything But The Girl. 7. Yellow - Coldplay. 8. Witches - Cowboy Junkies. 9. I Specialise In Loneliness - Boy George. 10. All The Love - Kate Bush (something about the succession of people saying goodbye makes me feel very lonely). Mark in Sydney NP Houdini - Kate Bush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:32:27 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Songs that make me cry (SJC) I like this thread so I will tune in but I cannot possible list all the songs that make me cry, it would be several miles long! (Laughing and crying, you know its the same relief). So Ill just stick to ten of Jonis songs that make my eyes water: A case of you Down to you Sweet bird Both sides now (2000 version) Blue Motel room I had a king Little Green (even before the story was known, the deep sorrow and feeling of loss in that song always made me cry) See you sometime All I want Chinese cafi/Unchained melody And to balance it, here are some of Jonis songs that lift my spirits: Carey Night in the city Chelsea Morning Night Ride home Solid love Twisted Shine One week last summer California In France they kiss on Main Street Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to the Northern hemisphere! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:54:43 +0000 From: dally mclaughlin Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2008 #329 > Its a sad day when the oppressed turn into oppressors. I enjoyed the comments about who is doing what in the Obamma innauguration. Wonderful to see a leader with the courage Obamma is showing.He knows how to encourage change. Some songs that made me cry; Theres one by Laura Nyro about an elephant child stood behind a tree. Anyone know it? Its beautiful and made me cry a few times. Ricky Lee Jones Company used to do it for me too. Bjork Venus as a boy. Iris deMent on a few songs has brought a tear to my eye as have the McGarrigles. Often for me its the voice rather than the song that draws out the emotion in me. Nick Cave can get me sobbing sometimes too. Climb Every Mountain! Aled Jones singing In The Bleak Midwinter brings floods especially when he sings about Heaven being unable to hold Him(God) and His having to come down to us, and the last verse.I just weep. Random Joni. Three Times a Lady, Anne Murray I cried a tear you wiped it dry. Gawd I start to worry myself now. Jennifer Warnes O God of Loveliness. A couple of songs on 49th Paralel KDLang both by Jane Sidburry I think her name is. Anyone know them? Sorry I am not very good at this but I could not resist. I really hope the LGBT community in America show some solidarity with Obamma and cut the crap with any idea of hissing at his innauguration. Time for the hissing to GO quietly methinks.Hissing is meant for summer lawns. > which really crack me up;> > midhelle shocked - the ballad of penny evans, (now released on the revised > all i can take....> > > ron> > - ------------------------------> > :'> *> So this is not the devil being invited to give the invocation, but a> religious leader who has taken steps in the right direction. Warren is not> the enemy. He is a man with whom one can profoundly disagree but yet be> challenged to meet him in his openness - again, he invited Obama into his> church which gave a clear message that Warren had moved past the days of the> religious right versus the rest of us. That Warren invited an abortions> rights pro gay Democrat into his church opened doors. Let us open a door> for him and let the conversation continue as Obama is sworn in as president> of ALL of the people, including those with whom we disagree.> > Reading that NYYimes article I was struck by something else - as a native of> Illinois (Land of Lincoln) I know how much Lincoln has shaped my own beliefs> politically as well as those of Obama. Obama's debt to Lincoln's beliefs is> deep. Anyway, Bishop Robinson, the gay Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire,> is quoted in the NYTimes article as saying "And the God that he's [Warren> is] praying to is not the God that I know."> > I disagree strongly with Robinson. Our Christian God - and here i speak as> clergy - is not a god of opinions on the events of the day or on the issues> of rhe times - - God is the God of us all, despite our varying opinions. > > > Lincoln in his 2nd inaugural spoke of how both sides (Union and Confederate,> prayed to the same God. Lincoln wondered how we saw different things in God> based on our beliefs, but suggested that the prayers of both could not be> ansered.> > > Vince> > > > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? > >> > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? > > - ------------------------------> > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:35:45 -0800> From: "Cassy" > Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc> > Music moves me in a way nothing else does. At various times in my life > different songs have made me cry and that can be so cathartic especially > when you "need a reason" to allow yourself to be moved to tears. Each of > the following songs has moved me to tears at different times. > - ------------------------------> > End of JMDL Digest V2008 #329> *****************************> > -------> Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org> Unsubscribe by clicking here:> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe> ------- _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:02:32 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Re: songs that make me cry. NJC There was a brief moment in my life that i felt so alone and always think in negative ways. I listened a lot to Radiohead's How To Disappear Completely. It has lines like: I'm not here This isn't happening In a little while i'd be gone The moment's already passed Yes it's gone. I was mad at that time. But i guess every teenagers experience a brief mad moment like that, specially if you're alone and rejected by someone you wish accepts you. Everytime i listen that song, i gaze. Rian So happy his parents are back from Arabia after 40 days. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:59:40 -0000 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) 1.Joni's 'Tin Angel' used to do it for me every time - for years -, till my heart got hard... 2. For reasons beyond reason, many of the tracks on Dar williams' first 2 albums - 'espec. 'When I was a boy' 'This was Pompeii', 'February' and 'Mortal City' 3. Much of Mahler 4. (and, God forgive me...) 'For Good' from 'Wicked' Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:23:50 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Inauguration njc wow, Vince. Thanks for that added perspective. When I first heard about this thing, I thought about it kind of along the lines of what you are saying, but then I started reading thoughts from some more angry sources, and I allowed it to piss me off too. And I still don't trust it 100%. I just hope Obama himself can remain focused and not let everything average itself out into nothing. I appreciate the historical (Lincoln) info, as well. Em - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Vince wrote: From: Vince Subject: Re: Inauguration njc To: Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 1:12 AM No one has less use for Warren's theology than I do - but in the past, Warren has given Obama opportunity to speak to those who have never listened to a Democrat before - so I give him credit for that...snip ... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:24:08 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Angel- Sarah M ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:49:58 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Inauguration NJC Vince, thanks for your opinion, about the benediction being a bigger role. It helps a little to consider this point. I do believe all opinions need to sit at the table in hopes that the division can begin to heal in this country, but at this time when the wounds of prop 8 in CA are so wide open, giving someone like Warren such a prominent place at the inauguration (as opposed to the table) is insulting & darkens what could have been a joyous celebration. Warren's views are so extreme & I am so incredibly tired of right wing religion playing a role in our government. Get the religion OUT of politics! What is it about this country that has to be so flag waving public about such things. Let it be a private matter, let it inspire people to do good in this world but let it stop being a force for the remaking of god in the image of man/woman who then use it to elevate themselves & judge others. Put aside the current issue for a moment, have you read his horrible horrible comments on Terry Schivo (sp?)'s husband when he wanted her to be allowed to be free of her body? I was raised a christian but am appalled what some people have done to it in service of their narrow minds & big egos. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:54:50 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Inauguration NJC Supporting political causes is forbidden among non-religions nonprofit organizations, they'd have their nonprofit status revoked Mark> the Mormon Church should be taxed up the you know what if they are going to be making huge contributions to political causes.< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:56:16 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: RE: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Kate wrote: >Angel- Sarah M Wintersong - Sarah M ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:10:03 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Inauguration njc I don't draw the same conclusion that you do from this invitation Vince. I've been invited (& have attended) a similar church several times by people who were aware of my progressive viewpoint. Their goal is the conversion of lost souls. Which means anyone who has a viewpoint different than theirs. Having someone like Obama at their church is a feather in Warren's cap. Being a religious person, however sincere, does not erase one's ego- in fact there is a special word for religious/spiritual leaders who use their beliefs in service of their ego- it is called the spiritual ego. Kate Vince >again, he invited Obama into his church which gave a clear message that Warren had moved past the days of the religious right versus the rest of us.< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:37:39 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Leffler" > Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to the Northern > hemisphere! Happy Solstice to All! Mark in snowbound Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:55:50 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: songs that make me cry First of all, no apologies needed for including "For Good." Reconciliation is one of the most powerful and moving experiences available to us; Dickens certainly knew that. For me: WOODSTOCK, the second verse DAVID LAHM **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:23:15 -0500 From: Subject: Songs that Make Me Cry (NJC) Any version of "Dancing at Whitsun." For those unfamiliar with it... after World War One, many English villages did not have enough young men to make up their traditional Morris dance teams, so for the first time, women (many of whom had lost loved ones in the war) were allowed to dance. Dancing At Whitsun (Trad / Austin John Marshall) It's fifty long springtimes since she was a bride But still you may see her at each Whitsuntide In a dress of white linen and ribbons of green As green as her memories of loving The feet that were nimble tread carefully now As gentle a measure as age do allow Through groves of white blossom by fields of young corn Where once she was pledged to her true love The fields they stand empty, the hedges grow free No young men to tend them or pastures go see They have gone where the forests of oak trees before Have gone to be wasted in battle Down from the green farmlands and from their loved ones Marched husbands and brothers and fathers and sons There's a fine roll of honour where the maypole once stood And the ladies go dancing at Whitsun There's a straight row of houses in these latter days Are covering the downs where the sheep used to graze There's a field of red poppies, a wreath from the Queen But the ladies remember at Whitsun And the ladies go dancing at Whitsun *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:15:41 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) Somebody else mentioned Joni's 2000 remake of 'Both Sides Now'. I would definitely include that on my list. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Scott" To: "Paul Castle" ; Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Castle" >> >> Interested to know what does it for other jmdlers >> > > 'Being Alive' from the musical 'Company' (especially Streisand's > version on 'The Broadway Album') > 'Light One Candle' and 'Blowin' in the Wind' from Peter Paul and > Mary's 'A Holiday Celebration' > 'Sara' by Stevie Nicks w/Fleetwood Mac > 'A Total Eclipse of the Heart' by Bonnie Tyler - cheese maybe, but > it has a memory associated with that just won't die > > > Those are the main ones that come to mind at the moment. The test > is to try and sing the song. If I can't get through it myself > without it sticking in my throat, it's one of 'those' songs. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:46:26 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc Did anyone else miss these digests? http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2008.n327 http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2008.n328 Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:45:18 -0500 From: Vince Subject: Re: Inauguration njc Clarence Page's column today is very helpful I think. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped1221pagedec21,0,5205139 .column No need to get mad at Obama's church pal Clarence Page December 21, 2008 Some of President-elect Barack Obama's supporters are upset that he chose Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration. They should not be surprised. He promised as a candidate that he would try to change the divisive tone of America's politics. But sometimes, to paraphrase one of his campaign slogans, "change" is easier to "believe in" than to act upon. Groups like the Human Rights Campaign and People for the American Way oppose Warren, the pastor of California's Saddleback Church and best-selling author of "The Purpose Driven Life." They don't like his opposition to abortion or his endorsement of Proposition 8, the ballot measure that amended California's constitution to limit marriage only to a man and a woman. [image: Clarence Page] Clarence Page Bio| E-mail | Recent columns Obama, like other leading Democratic presidential candidates, favors abortion rights and gay rights, although not gay marriage. And Obama's outreach to evangelicals is nothing new. As he said in a Thursday news conference in Chicago, his invitation continues a dialogue with evangelical Christians that began before his campaign. The former Chicago community organizer has long criticized Democrats for passing up golden opportunities to reach out to church folks of all political leanings. Obama's effort took on new life when Warren invited Obama to appear before his congregation at Saddleback Church. Although some gay activists and other left-progressives might try to dismiss Warren as a hard-line troglodyte, he actually is a pragmatic moderate compared with right-wing evangelical activists like Pat Robertsonor the late Rev. Jerry Falwell. New-wave televangelists like Warren have built huge followings by toning down the politics to issues on which more of us can agreelike fighting AIDS, poverty and environmental pollution. Both Warren and Obama share a pragmatism that is characteristic of the generation that came of age since the 1960s : Don't let ideological areas in which you disagree get in the way of the many areas in which you agree. "We're not going to agree on every single issue," Obama said at a Thursday news conference in Chicago, "but what we have to do is be able to create an atmosphere where we can disagree without being disagreeable, and then focus on those things that we hold in common." That's a lofty but worthy goal. Obama won election by appealing to common interests that all Americans share. He was helped ironically in this cause by an economic crisis that has become the mother of all unifying national headaches. Those who don't know Obama well were similarly puzzled when Obama appeared at Saddleback Church in a program with his Republican opponent Sen. John McCain. Obama could have done better that night, I wrote at the time. I thought his response to Warren's question about where life begins by saying that's "above my pay grade," was a bit too flip to win the hearts of the anti-choice flock. Yet, I think Obama probably knew better than pundits like me how important it was not that he gave all the best polished answers to Warren's questions but that he showed up at all. Unlike previous Democratic candidates who shied away from church congregations unless they were, say, liberal blacks, Obama undoubtedly reached a lot of persuadable voters that night and reduced the concerns of many who needed to know him better. Barack Obama 's conflict over his friend Rick Warren versus his friends in the gay rights community reminds me of the old adage about moderation: If you play in the middle of the road, you'll get hit by both sides. By now, Obama has grown accustomed to getting hit by the religious right for favoring abortion rights and by the left for opposing gay marriage. But he promised to try to carve a new middle ground in our politics and our big social divides. Advocates of gay marriage should not make too much of the outreach to Warren. If you want to change people's minds, you need to reach out first to those who, at least, are willing to give you a listen. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:14:13 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #269 In a message dated 12/20/2008 3:02:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:38:00 -0500 From: Russell Bowden Subject: DJRD...the song Gang, This terrific (what an inadequate word for it) song has always screamed SCORPIO to me..and why not? The snake and the eagle are heavily symolic of the sign...and the genius way she juxtaposes the two...the relentless drive of the music and the insistence of the lyrics...still gets MY feet up to dance!! Love, RussWestbound and rollin' Not only good to get you up on your feet to dance - but one of the best songs ever to run to. **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:51:09 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry (sjc) - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Jeff Hankins wrote: > 1.Joni's 'Tin Angel' used to do it for me every > time - for years -, till my heart got hard... This made me laugh. I get it. Oh for the days of a not-yet-hardened heart. There are times when even the sappiest TV commercials can make me cry though. I hate that! Some of you have mentioned Sarah MacLachlan's "Angel." They use it in a TV ad here for the humane society and you see pictures of animals that have been abused and their faces are so sad. I always have to change the channel. One that made me cry when I heard it again just recently is Bruce Cockburn's "The beautiful creatures." He uses a falsetto, which he doesn't often do, and it sounds like he's sobbing in that part. One that made me sob out loud, not just run at the eyes, was hearing Eric Andersen singing "Is it really love at all?" when I saw him live a few years ago. I was hoping he would sing it but quite unprepared for what happened when he started. Thought I'd die. Emotion really should announce itself first and not just plop itself down at your table like that. Someone else mentioned crying the first time they heard Joni's updated/mature version of "Both sides now" (from Travelogue or BSN - I don't feel like looking it up because I should be making dinner.) It hit me the same way. It probably helps to have aged along with Joni. One day, you wake up, and you realize you really are an old fart for real this time and you feel so damn wise all of a sudden but scared shitless when you realize that all the stuff your parents warned you would happen one day, has suddenly landed with a whump on your doorstep. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:45:22 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still makes me cry Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" Jimmy ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) Happy Solstice! I'm always happy to know the shortest day of the year has passed and the light will now come back slowly. (Of course in the southern hemisphere, it's the opposite, but you won't notice for a while.) It must be snowing everywhere. We had the second of three snowstorms today (in fact, it's still snowing.) I guess it's like our three ghosts before Christmas. - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Mark Scott wrote: > From: Mark Scott > Subject: Re: Songs that make me cry (SJC) > To: "Marion Leffler" , joni@smoe.org > Received: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 12:37 PM > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion > Leffler" > > Marion, happily anticipating the light to return to > the Northern hemisphere! > > Happy Solstice to All! > > Mark in snowbound Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:33:51 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc Any chance they're going straight to your spam folder? Every so often, a jmdl post ends up in mine. (I'm not on digest though.) Or sometimes, for unexplained reasons, they just show up late. I always seem to get Randy Remote's posts after someone else has already responded. - --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Did anyone else miss these digests? > > http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2008.n327 > http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/v2008.n328 > > Jim L'Hommedieu __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:16:09 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Did anyone else miss these digests? njc Thanks for writing. I remembered that JMDL posts sometimes go to your spam folder, so I already checked there. No joy. I think you're right that they'll show up eventually. Including the wind chill, it's -26C (-14F) here in Dayton, Ohio, US. I want to thank the Canadian gov't to help GM with loans since it's especially important to the economy in Ontario. Jim L'Hommedieu Catherine McKay wrote: Any chance they're going straight to your spam folder? Or sometimes, they just show up late. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Oh, yes. I've seen her sing it live, twice! Once at her Carnegie Hall concert. Like being struck with lightening. FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still makes me > cry > > Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" > > Jimmy > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& > icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:16:58 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Paula Cole New Album review With Joni Mention of course. Herbie plays on this album as well. Excerpt: Needless to say, the Paula Cole who, at 39, has just released "Courage" is a different person than the one whose last album came out in 1999, a time shed won legions of fans with her hits "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone" and the "Dawson's Creek" theme "I Dont Want to Wait" and collected a best new artist Grammy Award. Its a positive change. The at-times overreaching art-pop of her earlier work has been replaced with the earthy sophistication of producer Bobby Colomby's settings  from spare singer-songwriter approaches evoking early Joni Mitchell ("El Greco") to full-on orchestral jazz balladry ("Lonelytown")  with Cole showing herself to be a singer of substance and range. The lyrics too reveal an artist growing and seeking, but centered, with themes of security, assuredness and, stance and range yes, courage recurring from the opening plea for strength and acceptance in "Comin' Down" to the romantic mission statement "14" to the enraptured "Safe in Your Arms." And there's no agenda obscuring the art  no bitterness or resentment, no points to prove other than that she's renewed and has something worthwhile to offer upon returning to the career she walked away from eight years ago. Steve Hochman, June 22, 2007 Los Angeles Times Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:32:57 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC jimmy wrote >Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still makes me cry >Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" um, EXCUSE ME!!?? i was so obsessed with jane oliver just as i was coming out. there's a passage in the first 'tales of the city' book where michael mouse references this song, (i think he plays it for a trick and says "this'll tear your heart out") but by the time the miniseries was done the song was so obscure, they switched it to another song. i think, bette's 'do you wanna dance". i also have always loved jane oliver's version of 'solitaire'. other ones that make me cry: - - bette's version of 'superstar' (the carpenters' song) - - old man river, from the movie 'showboat', the 1951 version. ava gardner has just been left behind, and william warfield sings the song. the last verse i get weary and sick of tryin' i'm tired of livin' and scared of dyin', but old man river, he just keeps rolling along. always puts a lump in my throat - - kate bush - moments of pleasure - - kim carnes - miss you tonight - - 'goodbye love' and 'will i' from rent always tear me up. - - the smiths - asleep, but only when i'm feeling incredibly sorry for myself. i don't wallow in misery as much as i used to... - - 'children and art' from 'sunday in the park with george' oh, many more, i'm sure. patrick, who saw and adored 'south pacific' on broadway last night. np - les mis in concert. i'm dubbing it for my dad for christmas. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of FMYFL@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:45 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still makes me cry Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" Jimmy ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:54:50 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #270 In a message dated 12/21/2008 3:04:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc Skeletons - Rickie Lee Jones (from Pirates) **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:32:31 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: a Joni mention Bonsoir, Joniami(e)s: A shy lurker wants to share this: Subject: odemagazine.com/slow-money > > fyi - > > down near the end - > > 'everyone isn't...joni mitchell' > > > > maybe they want to post it on the website - > > not sure who to send it to... > > > http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/58/slow-money-excerpt/all > > A book excerpt from Slow Money, by Woody Tasch Excerpts from "Reconnoitering" in Inquiries into the Nature of Slow Money: Investing as if Food, Farms, and Fertility Mattered by Woody Tasch. Reprinted with permission of the publisher, Chelsea Green Publishing.(TICS: Chelsea! Green! Money money money!)I'll extract it for you here since it's such a busy time of year:"Of course, everyone cant live on an organic farm. And everyone isnt Eliot Coleman any more than everyone is Joni Mitchell."Cool, n'est-ce pas? Her name's in the news. Everything's first class. (Comme d'habitude.) The excellent article should hold much interest for BB and Ms. Treegreen (Hey farmer, farmer!) and you know there may be more, when time allows. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:42:02 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, ice wine, clandestine Catherine! I just read this article and thought of you. http://www.courant.com/travel/hc-travniagarawines.artdec21,0,2756311.story It is produced in St Catharine's, when the pond over-ices. Just south of you, out on some borderline, some mark of inbetween you and Marianne country. I have never heard of "ice wine", but you know life is for learning. Those grapes, I guess they're either going to thaw out or freeze! I suppose if you told someone they were in your blood like icy wine, that would not be a compliment, although they say it is very sweet. "Seventeen glasses, Rhine wine, Milch of the Madonna, clandestine....." The article even uses that word. It says the gathering of the grapes at night is "almost clandestine." I was going to post this on your FB wall, but then all the Joni lines came through, so I decided it belongs here, where it all comes down to Joni. I hope everyone is singing songs of joy and peace, and not wishing they had a river....although I suspect everyone has both sides now, as do I. Laughing and crying, you know.... L & P, PP P.S. I just put a new star on top of my tree. My son MfM gave it to me last year. Guess what it says on the star? Yep. PEACE! The peace and the star. Dontcha just love it? Let all your little lights shine. Shine. "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:03:57 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC Jerry's not the only one. That is a beautiful rendition and re-thinking of an old chestnut. Truly a tear-jerker if there ever was one. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC > Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still > makes me cry > > Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" > > Jimmy > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& > icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: re: Re: into the wild njc - and other movies I will be seeing that on Christmas Day. I am looking forward it! - -Monika - --- On Thu, 12/18/08, waytoblue@comcast.net wrote: Kate Winslet is awesome...she'll be appearing in Revolutionary Road, opening on Dec.25, Christmas Day. Victor -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Monika Bogdanowicz > I love Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind! That is definitely my kind of > film. I originally saw the movie because Kate Winslet was in it and I find > her to be an incredible actress. > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: re: Re: into the wild njc - and other movies Ah yes, I am planning to see the Reader as well. I didn't realize it already came out in some parts. I am going to have to google more info about it. Looking into it, I see it has a limited release currently. I'm looking forward to that because Winslet is in it but also because of the story. I love the Nazi content. I'm very interested in WWII and everything that happened during that time. As for Little Children, I saw that film as well. I actually was inspired to read Madame Bovary after seeing the film. - -Monika - --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com wrote: I saw "the reader" on the weekend, and the buzz is that Kate will be nominated, yet again, for an oscar for either this performance or her upcoming one. The movie was interesting, intense and a bit dark, but I think she was brilliant. Little Children, another disturbing film with she as the lead, showed a totally different side of her abilities- also a brilliant performance. best Stephen in Toronto NP: Van Morrison- no guru, no method.... Kate Winslet is awesome...she'll be appearing in Revolutionary Road, opening on Dec.25, Christmas Day. Victor -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Monika Bogdanowicz > I love Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind! That is definitely my kind of > film. I originally saw the movie because Kate Winslet was in it and I find > her to be an incredible actress. > -Monika This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:37:42 -0500 From: "Steve Petrica" Subject: Want my VHS copy of "An All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell"? I've been going through old boxes of stuff, and I came across a home-made VHS videocassette of "An All-Star Tribute to Joni Mitchell" at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York on April 6, 2000, and broadcast on the TNT network 4/16/00. The program is written up here: http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=477 Joni's in the audience while many other artists (including Shawn Colvin, Elton John, Wynonna Judd, Chaka Kahn, Diana Krall, k.d. lang, Richard Thompson, Cassandra Wilson, among others) cover her songs. Hillary Clinton pays homage as well. You can have my copy if you'd like it. All I'd ask is for you to reimburse the mailing costs. If you want it, contact me off-list. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:54:02 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: Inauguration njc And then there are non-Democrats who supported Obama, like me, who are not disturbed in the least... Jim L Kate B said, >I think its safe to say that there are many of us not in the LGBT community who voted for Obama & are extremely disturbed by this choice. The timing of this choice couldn't be worse with the recent fallout from the prop 8 vote in CA.> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:10:43 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: Re: songs that make me cry vljc From hardest cry to lightest cry: Every Word - Sade Making Pies - Patty Griffin Fat Boy - Jewel The World Has Turned - Weezer (but only my own version on acoustic guitar slowed wayyyyy down) When You Don't Want Me Anymore - Nina Gordon For Free (live video from Pink Dress Concert) - Joni Mitchell (more of a beautiful heartfelt good cry) Mia _________________________________________________________________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:50:46 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC I got a Jane Olivor L.P. back in 1977, "Chasing Rainbows" it was a promotional deal and I really enjoyed it. I may have to dust it off and play it now that I have a USB turntable and can make MP3s (when I figure out the software). Warmly, Cassy NP: P. Diddy & Usher - I Need a Girl If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Songs that Make Me Cry NJC > Oh, yes. I've seen her sing it live, twice! Once at her Carnegie Hall > concert. > Like being struck with lightening. > > FMYFL@aol.com wrote: >> Jerry's the only one that probably heard this one, but it still makes me >> cry >> >> Jane Oliver's version of "Some Enchanted Evening" >> >> Jimmy >> >> >> ************** >> One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, >> Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& >> icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #330 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------