From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #298 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, November 22 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 298 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Holycombe CD Covers [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: All Religions, njc ["Anita Tedder" ] Re: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Holycombe CD Covers [Jerry Notaro ] RE: All Religions, njc [Laura Stanley ] Re: Possible Joni appearance???? ["Mike Pritchard" ] Re: "Smurf" [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: "Smurf" (add on) [PassScribe@aol.com] Betty Buckley's "Amelia" [Bob Muller ] image of smurf NJC [Mags ] Re: "Smurf" (add on) [Catherine McKay ] Re: "Smurf" (add on) [Em ] this week's concerts in Paris, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] A Joni song for Smurf [Laura Stanley ] Re: A Joni song for Smurf ["Lori Fye" ] RE: A Joni song for Smurf [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] Re: A Joni song for Smurf [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:54:52 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Holycombe CD Covers Hello everyone. If anyone would still like the covers for the Holycombe UK JoniFest CDs, I still have the .zip file. Just write to me offlist and I will send them by return message. Mark in Sydney NP Two - Madhouse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:02:04 -0000 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: RE: All Religions, njc Laura wrote: "Interesting poem. Reminded me of a brick house being built or cells of the body." This is such a great image for this poem. I love that! Laura then wrote: "Everybody has different opinions regardless of what similar group they belong to. I don't usually give a thought to winning people over to my opinions. I express my opinions for the taking or the leaving of them. And sometimes my opinion expressed at one moment is very different from that of the next moment. I'm aware things are always changing and what I say today could be wrong and not apply to tomorrow. I feel like a channel more than a source, especially in my job as a teacher." I love that as an idea to aspire to. However, where it always gets unstuck in me is when I encounter things that strike me as just plain WRONG. Like racism, or someone is homophobic towards me in some way. Then I simply just want them DEAD, such is my rage. Then I fully encounter my shadow. I remember such love and support I got here in JMDL when Steph and I had a really hard time from some lads in our village. They were being really abusive and we put up with it for a while. One night I had enough and I found myself chasing them down the road screaming at them. Then the weirdest thing I happened whilst I was running. I stopped on a corner and started to smell the air and then I was overwhelmed by what I can only describe as snarling. And in that moment, I felt really POWERFUL. It was great at the time, but afterwards, I felt uncomfortable with myself. My intellect recognised that it made me no better than them and no better than any other fanatic or hooligan. I wanted them to tolerate me and I don't know that they ever will, and in those moments I just wanted to survive and, even more, take revenge. Oh well, there's the struggle in a nut shell. How do I accept others who don't accept me? Can I offer tolerance to those who would never offer it to me? It's a big question. I am actually really pleased that you tested lowest about changing people's values and opinions as being a goal of education. Of course, it shouldn't be. In fact, it seems a contradiction in terms and the idea of being a channel of information to 'let those who hear it do with it what they please' is certainly a way of being within teaching. In most education, it wouldn't matter. However, when it comes to moral questions (again like racism) I just come around to wanting people to see it MY way i.e. it's just plain wrong. The other ideas about being 'present' and in the moment and perhaps holding to a place where an opinion or view could change from day to day is one that resonates with me. People often say I am inconsistent in some views and they see that as negative. I think it is a positive. I like to be open to being changed by others and doing the best I can to be fully present. But then I come around again to this same place. There are some things I feel that are plan wrong and always will be and I think I would fight for those. Maybe I am coming back round to liking Marge Piercy's poem again! Let's hope big ideas are indeed in the small, like fractals. Another good idea! And I feel supported by the idea that maybe looking for integrity means I might have it. However, I shall continue the quest! Thanks for this. It feels a rich exchange, Anita x ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:40:39 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy Ashara, thanks for letting us know about this-I never met Bob, but he has a great presence here on the list, always able to lighten our heavy load with his wit and warmth. He will leave a gap that cannot really be filled. May his journey be filled with light and love. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:21:09 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: RE: hippie now, herkimer stones, njc > From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca> Honey. You ARE a hippie. In fact, you are the epitome of hippie to me.> Thank you very much for that complement Catherine. . . makes my day! Happy Friday everyone! LO VE Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:16:36 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Holycombe CD Covers Well worth. Excellent stuff recorded by masters. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 21, 2008, at 2:54 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: Hello everyone. If anyone would still like the covers for the Holycombe UK JoniFest CDs, I still have the .zip file. Just write to me offlist and I will send them by return message. Mark in Sydney NP Two - Madhouse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:01:26 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Holycombe CD Covers I'll add my vote to that. Outstanding recordings. I enjoyed listening to everyone and all the hard work in all that is took really shows. You all Shine! Jerry > From: Michael Paz > Reply-To: Michael Paz > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:16:36 -0600 > To: Mark-Leon Thorne > Cc: Joni List > Subject: Re: Holycombe CD Covers > > Well worth. Excellent stuff recorded by masters. > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 2:54 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > > Hello everyone. > > If anyone would still like the covers for the Holycombe UK JoniFest > CDs, I still have the .zip file. Just write to me offlist and I will > send them by return message. > > Mark in Sydney > > NP Two - Madhouse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:43:01 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: All Religions, njc Anita wrote: "How do I accept others who don't accept me? Can I offer tolerance to those who would never offer it to me? It's a big question." Hi Anita, Yes, it is a challenge for all who value peace and love. "However, when it comes to moral questions (again like racism) I just come around to wanting people to see it MY way i.e. it's just plain wrong." Maybe your way is not just your way but the way of a common good in the universe. So maybe your wanting comes from something bigger than you. And if this is true, than maybe you don't have to do anything except hold on to your goodness and be you rather than those who are racists, etc. "People often say I am inconsistent in some views and they see that as negative. I think it is a positive. I like to be open to being changed by others and doing the best I can to be fully present. But then I come around again to this same place." I have a friend who is a social worker who thinks people are innately incapable of really changing. But, maybe something about some people that can't be changed is that they are always changing. Perhaps the way we grow up in appearance, like how we sprout limbs that once fully expressed are limbs that don't change from their basic shape and adult pattern, is similar to the way we grow in certain aspects of our brains too and therefore thoughts. Maybe our basic human way of thinking is set, but just as there are very subtle changes in the appearance of one's face with aging, we can see/hear similar changes in the way we think as we express our thoughts as aging adults. Change with us is subtle by nature in the grand scheme of things. But we do change and some individuals are changers in very noticeable ways as we look back at history. I'm of the opinion that genetic programming determines more of how we think than we probably can imagine. Beyond our individual physical structural programming, there is also programmed in us a need to conform to a society, to what others are doing or thinking. Peer pressure. It is a genetic thing for survival. I tend to agree with my social worker friend that people really can't change their basic way of thinking. But, their thoughts can be patterned using input of information or social pressures... good or bad. Hermits try to free run their thoughts by isolating. Prayer at any time seems to be a similar means or attempt to free run one's thoughts, to obtain a rhythm that is synchronized to a larger rhythm than than many smaller ones found in our social settings... clearing one's mind... breaking free. Pausing and praying for people like those lads who harassed you instead of chasing them, helps me to see people like this as small in the grand scheme of things rather than being overwhelmed and controlled by them. This is one thing about Obama that really impresses me. He seems to be constantly in prayer, in touch with the grand scheme of peace regardless of the pressures he faces. Bush claimed to be a prayerful man, but his actions and disposition said otherwise. > > There are some things I feel that are plan wrong and always > will be and I > think I would fight for those. Maybe I am coming back round > to liking Marge > Piercy's poem again! The question is how will you fight? Fighting doesn't have to be chasing. It can be done in peaceful ways that are much more effective. There are good examples of this to follow and Obama is already one. The feeling of fight is a gift and can be used accordingly. Thanks for thinking with me. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:19:57 +0100 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: Re: Possible Joni appearance???? Jerry wrote: >> 75th Birthday Concert: Wayne Shorter featuring Brian Blade, Danilo Perez, John Patitucci,...<< That, sir, is one hell of a quartet. I saw them last year, or earlier this year, and it was one of the finest concert I've ever seen. Wayne was understandably exhausted at the end because of all the effort he put into the show, but he looked nowhere near 75. They're a great band. mike np Suzanne - Ian McCulloch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:30:38 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: "Smurf" Regarding: > From: Ashara Stansfield > Subject: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy > I'm posting to the list and also to Ashara who I must thank in advance for forwarding my note to Bob as soon as possible. I heard a while back that Bob had a problem with his health, and that he didn't want to broadcast it to all for fear of having it be a "prime subject" on this list. Of course, now it is, and rightly so... Bob was a big supporter of this list and a very popular guy. While I'm moved to tears thinking of the impending outcome, I am SO glad I met Bob at the two JoniFests I attended at Full Moon. At the last one, a couple of years ago, I was fortunate to hitch a ride with Bob on a trip into Woodstock where he wanted to look around and pick up a few things. During our time together, I got to know him more intimately than I could have just hanging with him in a crowd, and found him to be a really great person to talk to and be with. A lovely man! During our trip to Woodstock together, I asked Bob if we could take a little detour, about two-miles out of town. A couple I knew from my Todd Rundgren Fest days had bought a place there some ten or fifteen years ago, and I hadn't seen them since then. Bob graciously took the time to stop off and meet my other friends and actually seemed to enjoy talking to them and finding out about them during our visit. I hope this note is not too late and that Bob is lucid enough for him to hear/read these words from me, and know that I thoroughly enjoyed our time together, that I will ALWAYS remember him, and that I will miss him deeply. Kenny B ************** One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:41:55 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) Ooops! Almost forgot and wanted all to know (referring to my previous post about Bob): one of the reasons Bob wanted to go into Woodstock on that day, during the last JoniFest I shared with him, was that he wanted to get a cake at a bakery there (we looked ALL OVER town for some candles !), to bring back to the Fest, because it was someone's birthday. Sorry, I can't remember who's birthday, but it just goes to show you that he was thinking of someone else and wanted to do something for her. Kenny B ************** One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:37:40 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Betty Buckley's "Amelia" Just a quick note to say that I now have this recording. Thanks for the response and for stepping up...you guys are the best, but then you already know that. Embracing my memories of Mr. Murphy this day. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Motel Matches" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:37:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mags Subject: image of smurf NJC > Just to share a photo with everyone ... > > http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/v/JoniMitchell/album25/Jimmys-Photos/JONIFEST _03_131.jpg.html Loori, thanks so much for posting this wonderful photo.....it's a fantastic image of Smurf, typical 'stance' for him, Smurf, I still see you as the funniest person I"ve ever met. No one can make me laugh like you do. Damned right, Beat Box Boy , you stole the show along side our girl band SugarPants at Fest one year. I still laugh out loud over that. most of all, I want to tell you that you are loved and cherished beyond words, beyond your imaginings. love, Mags > i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:10:08 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) Kenny, that was me. My birthday was either during that fest, or else the last day of fest was the day before my birthday... and he went out and bought a birthday cake, and it was a very pretty one too (Oh yeah, and tasty!) Funny how sometimes he'll act all crusty and tough and be joking all the time, but he definitely has a heart of gold. - --- On Fri, 11/21/08, PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > From: PassScribe@aol.com > Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) > To: joni@smoe.org, AsharaJM@aol.com > Received: Friday, November 21, 2008, 9:41 AM > Ooops! Almost forgot and wanted all to know (referring to my > previous > post about Bob): one of the reasons Bob wanted to go into > Woodstock on that day, > during the last JoniFest I shared with him, was that he > wanted to get a cake > at a bakery there (we looked ALL OVER town for some candles > !), to bring back > to the Fest, because it was someone's birthday. Sorry, > I can't remember who's > birthday, but it just goes to show you that he was thinking > of someone else > and wanted to do something for her. > > Kenny B > > > __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) Smurf is one of the first people on the list who was my friend. He was really nice to me. I could tell right away that he has a heart of gold. thinking best thoughts possible for him. Em - --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) To: joni@smoe.org, AsharaJM@aol.com, PassScribe@aol.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:10 PM Kenny, that was me. My birthday was either during that fest, or else the last day of fest was the day before my birthday... and he went out and bought a birthday cake, and it was a very pretty one too (Oh yeah, and tasty!) Funny how sometimes he'll act all crusty and tough and be joking all the time, but he definitely has a heart of gold. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:22:42 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: this week's concerts in Paris, njc Hi All 2 hits and 1 miss this week in Paris; On tuesday David Bromberg: this guy has played with everybody (and their brother) from the 60's on. First time ever he played in Paris. Didn't know what to expect, some kind of folky dinosaur. Boy from the 1st note we were blown away. David played solo, a few tracks accompanied on double bass by his wife who has a country band of her own. Lots of blues ("Demon in Disguise"), some country, an interesting arrangement of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" and a great sense of humour made for a fabulous concert. Highly recommended if you have a chance. We also liked a lot the opening act Darden Smith, from TX. Interesting harmonies, great singing, a la John Hiatt which for me is a fantastic compliment. Last night went to see Todd Rundgren who for many (Hi Dave) is a whiz kid with some pretty tunes and arrangements. Well that Todd is dead, the new Todd sounds more like the Scorpions, bad heavy metal, just noise. David Bromberg alone does infinitely more than the 3 guitars in that band. I left half way through and will write him off my checklist forever. Tomorrow is Tracy Chapman solo with an opening by Joseph Arthur. Next week the S African guitarist Nils Van der Spuy. Life is tough in the city. Have a great WE everyone Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:35:15 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: RE: Fwd: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy Thirded, Kate. (PS I sent my mg to Ashara for Bob but I will never ever ever forget as long as I live the moment in time as I was literally walking out the door of ashara's to go back home & alison & bob were there at the computer egging each other on & posting hysterically funny messages to the jmdl (I can't forget whether it was Alison editing smurf or vice versa- re not going over the edge to far)... precious memories. It is probably in the archives somewhere as are so many of his priceless comments) Alison wrote: > F*ck. Seconded. Hell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:43:32 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) I never meet Smurf. Nor chat with him offlist. But his Ethel Merman photo is one of the very first Joni-people photos i saw. And i thought that this man must be a very funny person who loves to make people laugh and happy to see others happy. Anyway, Does anybody know what his favorite Joni album is? Does he like Dancing Clown? Rian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:15:26 +0000 (UTC) From: rflynn@frontiernet.net Subject: Re: Subject: RE: Fwd: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy I'm in San Diego for business right now. I gave Ashara my message for Bob. He & I went out a few times during the summer of 2005 when I lived in Boston for the summer. The first time we met in person, he did an Ethel Merman version of "The Last Time I Saw Richard." A sweet wonderful man. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate Bennett To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Subject: RE: Fwd: To all those that know Bob "Smurf" Murphy Thirded, Kate. (PS I sent my mg to Ashara for Bob but I will never ever ever forget as long as I live the moment in time as I was literally walking out the door of ashara's to go back home & alison & bob were there at the computer egging each other on & posting hysterically funny messages to the jmdl (I can't forget whether it was Alison editing smurf or vice versa- re not going over the edge to far)... precious memories. It is probably in the archives somewhere as are so many of his priceless comments) Alison wrote: > F*ck. Seconded. Hell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:14:00 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: "Smurf" (add on) Listening to Amy Winehouse tonight in honor of Bob. He burned me a copy of her cd when I was staying with him in Boston a year and a half ago. Actually, we're jamming now w/guitar and fiddle but listened to Amy while we were making a delicious gourmet, raw dinner. I can't image a jonifest without Bob there...he always knows just what to say at the right moment. I remember when Jody picked me up from Logan airport and we were trying to get directions from Bob because one of the main tunnels were closed...he said the police were probably shooting liberals again and we were soon bursting out in laughter. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:23:44 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: A Joni song for Smurf Let's each sing/pray a Joni song for Smurf. I am doing For the Roses for him right now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:14:45 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: A Joni song for Smurf The Circle Game is what immediately comes to mind and out-of-tune voice. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:43:49 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: RE: A Joni song for Smurf Laura wrote: Let's each sing/pray a Joni song for Smurf. I am doing For the Roses for him right now. >>> I'm playing One Week Last Summer from Shine. Rian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:56:49 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: A Joni song for Smurf Sorry it has to be Dancing Clown in an Ethel Merman voice. Love ya Bob. Keep fighting, stranger things have happened. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:43 AM, do9eatdo9@yahoo.com wrote: Laura wrote: Let's each sing/pray a Joni song for Smurf. I am doing For the Roses for him right now. >>> I'm playing One Week Last Summer from Shine. Rian ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #298 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------