From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #273 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, October 31 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 273 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- No Joni Content ["Les Irvin" ] Re: No Joni Content ["Corey Blake" ] Re: OzFest 2010 [Michael Paz ] Joni photos and the ghost [Monafitz@aol.com] Re: Joni photos and the ghost [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni photos and the ghost [Garret ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc [waytoblue@comcast.net] Subject: Re: OzFest 2010 [Michael ] Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc ["Jamie Zubairi Home" ] RE: OzFest 2010 ["patrick leader" ] Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc [Catherine McKay Subject: No Joni Content Unfortunately, this news item is untrue. Joni will neither be attending or performing at this event. Les - ----- Keep a Child Alive's fifth annual Black Ball Gala, hosted by Ambassadors Alicia Keys and Iman, will honor the global AIDS work of three remarkable humanitarians. This legendary evening will take place at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City on Thursday, November 13th, 2008. The Black Ball will begin with a cocktail party followed by a seated dinner with extraordinary live performances by Alicia Keys, Justin Timberlake, Joni Mitchell, Jack White and other extraordinary artists to be announced. http://keepachildaliveblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/save-date-kca-black-ball-200 8.html - ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:51:43 -0700 From: "Corey Blake" Subject: Re: No Joni Content Hi Les, Thank you for the correction on this. I'm curious though: how do you know? Not that I could make this even if it were true, but I've never seen Joni in concert, and hope I'll have an opportunity to do so. Corey On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Les Irvin wrote: > Unfortunately, this news item is untrue. Joni will neither be attending or > performing at this event. > > Les > > > > ----- > > Keep a Child Alive's fifth annual Black Ball Gala, hosted by Ambassadors > Alicia Keys and Iman, will honor the global AIDS work of three remarkable > humanitarians. This legendary evening will take place at the Hammerstein > Ballroom in New York City on Thursday, November 13th, 2008. The Black Ball > will begin with a cocktail party followed by a seated dinner with > extraordinary live performances by Alicia Keys, Justin Timberlake, Joni > Mitchell, Jack White and other extraordinary artists to be announced. > > > http://keepachildaliveblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/save-date-kca-black-ball-200 > 8.html > ----- > - -- http://www.CoreyBlake.com - a whole lot of me Newest video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlQ9gU-9HU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:39:33 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: OzFest 2010 HAVE FAITH! I feel a change coming. Of course it may get worse (which it probably will) before it gets better, but I am optimistic. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Cassy wrote: As others have said, this could be the trip of a lifetime. Are we counting 4 days for Fest activities? It would help for me to do the math. Based on 4 days it's roughly $500 U.S. for the fest and United Airlines seems to have a one-stop flight from Seattle to Sydney for about $1500 U.S. so $2,000 just for travel and Fest. Of course, I could not travel that far for 4 days so I looked at flights spanning a fortnight in mid March. (apparently one cannot book flights more than 333 days in advance on some of the cheap ticket web sites so I had to check prices for 2009 and hope they won't be too much more by 2010. So counting accommodations for the rest of the time (can we arrange to hang out at the venue rather than change to a hotel?) discretionary spending money and body fuel I'm personally looking at around $5,000 multiply that by two so I can share the experience with my husband and $10,000 becomes a fair bit of money for a two-week holiday. Unless things radically improve financially in the next 10 months or so, it's doubtful I would be able to participate this time. Mark, thanks for everything you're doing but I'll have to do this one vicariously. Warmly, Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:55:14 EDT From: Monafitz@aol.com Subject: Joni photos and the ghost Hum this is interesting. I went to a Court and Spark Tour performance given in New Haven, Connecticut in '74 and I took photographs with a very fine camera. On one of my photos there appeared to be a white silhouette of a figure in a top hat on the face of Joni's guitar. At the time (1974), I thought the silhouetted figure on my photograph was a result of sloppy processing...perhaps an overlapped negative. But, look at the photographs take in Anaheim in the link below, you can see the same silhouetted figure on the face of Joni's guitar. Hummmmmm. Court and Spark tour March 5, 1974 Anaheim Convention Center w/Tom Scott & The LA Express Go to: http://flickr.com/photos/ultomatt/50646455/in/set-1098929/ On the right is a smaller photo. Click the arrow underneath for another photo. Keep clicking until you get to the end of the set of photos. Or Click on each smaller photo and it will enlarge. **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni photos and the ghost Yep, I definitely saw the figure, Mona. A Halloween spirit! Bob NP: Green Day, "Homecoming, etc" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:00:14 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: Joni photos and the ghost it's like she peeled a tom waits shaped sticker off her guitar On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Yep, I definitely saw the figure, Mona. A Halloween spirit! > > Bob > > NP: Green Day, "Homecoming, etc" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:21:19 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) ... the paradox between fairness and equality. Jim L. Mueller said, >Of course, if you happen to be Steve Forbes or someone with that level of financial resource, a flat tax seems awfully fair.> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:26:28 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, "We don't serve minors." L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:12 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: Joni photos and the ghost hmmmmm interesting Mr Bond..... well it looks more like design than accident... I'd suggest it was part of the luthiers design perhaps? 2008/10/30 Garret > it's like she peeled a tom waits shaped sticker off her guitar > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > > > Yep, I definitely saw the figure, Mona. A Halloween spirit! > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Green Day, "Homecoming, etc" > - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:57:37 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: OzFest 2010 Hi Cassy. You've been doing your sums, m'lady. Yes, the big cost was always going to be the flights. It's a fine line between finding accommodations that are suitable and what everyone would like and keeping the price down. The retreat is a good compromise in my opinion. It's not the cheapest place in the country but it's not the worst either. I did quite a bit of research before stumbling upon this place and, my, my, my, there are some expensive places around. Upwards of $200/night. The others were either golf resorts or historic properties. I searched two main areas - the Southern Highlands to the south and Barrington Tops to the north. This was by far the best deal and most appropriate layout. Keep in mind the exchange rate. That's why I've calculated the price in different currencies. That's based on the current exchange rate of course and who knows what it will be by that time? In July of this year, AU$1.00 was buying US$0.91. Now, it is about AU$1.00 = US$0.61. Americans would make a killing if they were to travel here today but, as I said, who knows what it will be come March 2010. The prices I have quoted are based on 30 people at the retreat for 3 days. I just picked 3 days because that is how long Holycombe went for. I guess, if people want the place for longer, you could assume the same price for an extra night. Keep in mind that this price is also for booking out the entire retreat. They are not really like a hotel. They don't do individual rates. That's why there is no difference in price whether you take a cabin or a bunk bed in the lodge. They have just quoted me the price for the whole three days and for the entire retreat. They do not charge individual prices. If people think that might be unfair, I can recalculate the price and charge varying amounts, depending on their choice of sleeping arrangements. Let me know if you would prefer this. I did not know you could fly directly from Seattle to Sydney. I do know that you can fly direct out of Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver. Most airlines have deals with US domestic airlines that charge one price for a connection to those cities. If you're flying from Europe, I recommend one of the cheaper airlines that fly via Asian. Like Thai Airlines, Cathay Pacific (via Hong Kong) or Malaysian Airlines. My sister actually owns several town houses up the coast a little bit that she rents out to holiday makers. There are five in total. I can enquire into her prices if anyone would like. They are in an area called, Lake Illawarra (get out your atlases) quite close to the beach and about an hour drive from Sydney. Kangaroo Valley is about 2 hours drive further south. There are other cheap alternatives and I am happy to make enquiries into further accommodation if anyone would like. I am an impatient person by nature. Especially when I am excited about something. I would like this to happen next month but I realise that's not possible. I was trying to work out when is the ideal weather for this. I personally find the heat quite stifling and prefer colder weather but this is not to please me. I want to cater to everyone's needs and most people like warmer weather. I figured Spring is a compromise. Spring this year has been a bit shitty so far. A lot of cloud cover, raining intermittently and wildly fluctuating temperatures (one week there's a heatwave - 35: and the next, there's snow in the upper areas). Some people are good at a general perspective of general weather trends but my memory is shot. My birthday is in March and I do recall that it still terribly hot in this region until the end of March. April is not good because I know it is traditionally a windy and wet month. Besides, I couldn't wait a whole two years for this. Whichever date I choose is not going to fit in with everyone. I can only hope to accommodate as many people as possible. I'm not sure when the school vacation times fall for the USA. I don't even know when they are here, I don't have kids. The date is still negotiable so, Mona Fitzgerald, put in your bid. I won't need to actually book for quite some time yet. They don't require a deposit until one month beforehand either. That gives everyone lots of time to save money. As far as the economy goes, the Australian dollar is quite low right now but seems to be climbing slowly up again. Generally, our economy is weathering this current crisis nicely. Bank bailouts have not been necessary so far and interest rates are falling like never before. Food prices aren't too bad. It's imports that are going through the roof. I asked my brother last night if he would like to come to this and he said, "Not at that price". Then again, he is used to camping. Short of making this a camping fest, I don't think I could get a better price. To get any cheaper, I would have to forego the facilities that this place offers. We'd be looking at hostel type accommodation. Yes, $500 looks like a lot of money but that is for accommodation and food for four days. It seems that this price is pretty close to what Holycombe charged too. Because the flights will be a major consideration for most people, I have suggested that you turn this into a major holiday and continue on after the fest to explore the country while you're here. I can help with various types of holidays if you like. Tell me what you're interested in and I can research it for you. Whether it's scuba diving in the Great Barrier Reef or an Outback adventure to Ayres Rock and Kings Canyon or wine tasting in the Barossa Valley or a shopping spree in Sydney. I know this country pretty well including other cities besides Sydney. Canberra is a fairly short drive from Kangaroo Valley. Hiring a car for your stay is probably wise. That will give you much more freedom but it's not absolutely necessary. I have been looking into transport for everyone to the venue. There is a train from Sydney to Berry (takes about an hour). Then we will have to arrange some sort of pick up from there. I think this is the easiest way to get there although, I should point out that the owner of Kangaroo Valley Bush Retreat has suggested a bus that runs from Parramatta in Sydney. I don't favour this option, myself because you would have to get to Parramatta first and it's a private bus company. The only advantage is that it goes to Kangaroo Valley township instead of Berry. You can get the train directly from Kingsford-Smith Airport to Central Station and just change trains to Berry. Easy. Thanks for your input, Michael. The economy is a conundrum. On the one hand, I hope the economy doesn't improve by then because it might keep the AU$ down and keep it affordable for everyone. On the other hand, if it improves, it will make your day to day lives easier and make it easier to save. I do hope you can make it. It would be such a highlight to have you there. As I said, I'm happy to research and other activities you have in mind. I'm also willing to look into possible professional bookings for you. Some pub gigs in Sydney for example or one of the many music festivals. Jimmy, please think about coming a bit earlier for the Mardi Gras. I'd be happy to put you up at my house although, I could only offer you the living room floor. At least it would be free. Craig, I'm so pleased you and Laura can make it. Laura's brother is more than welcome. Come one, come all, I say. Joni fans or not (you soon will be). The more people that come, the cheaper it gets for everyone. The venue has capacity for 68 people. The prices I quoted are based on 30 people so it is not the final breakdown. If we can get more than 30 people, the individual price will drop. Keep that in mind. Thank you all for your feedback. It's a big help to me to know what's going on and what you all need. Mark in Sydney PS As I mentioned, I am working on a new web site where you will be able to register for the fest and find links for payment and other information. I've never designed a web site before so it may take some time to get up and running. On 31/10/2008, at 4:58 AM, Cassy wrote: > As others have said, this could be the trip of a lifetime. Are we > counting 4 days for Fest activities? It would help for me to do > the math. Based on 4 days it's roughly $500 U.S. for the fest and > United Airlines seems to have a one-stop flight from Seattle to > Sydney for about $1500 U.S. so $2,000 just for travel and Fest. Of > course, I could not travel that far for 4 days so I looked at > flights spanning a fortnight in mid March. (apparently one cannot > book flights more than 333 days in advance on some of the cheap > ticket web sites so I had to check prices for 2009 and hope they > won't be too much more by 2010. > > So counting accommodations for the rest of the time (can we arrange > to hang out at the venue rather than change to a hotel?) > discretionary spending money and body fuel I'm personally looking > at around $5,000 multiply that by two so I can share the experience > with my husband and $10,000 becomes a fair bit of money for a two- > week holiday. > > Unless things radically improve financially in the next 10 months > or so, it's doubtful I would be able to participate this time. > Mark, thanks for everything you're doing but I'll have to do this > one vicariously. > > Warmly, > Cassy > > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:02:44 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc Those strings aren't minors, they're a C6 major chord! Start pouring.... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, > "We don't serve minors." > > L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:03:20 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Subject: Re: OzFest 2010 Hey Mark, This just may be the invitation I've been waiting for to get my a** down to Australia for a first look-see. The month of March is a weary time in Quebec, so it would make a great escape from the end of a long winter forme. I'm definitely thinking about it. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:19:13 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc But surely it's an A minor chord? 2008/10/31 > Those strings aren't minors, they're a C6 major chord! > > Start pouring.... > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > > Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, > > "We don't serve minors." > > > > L'Hommedieu > - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:20:53 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Re: OzFest 2010 How's the old saying go....even if it gets worse it's better then it was before or now. 81 Days 13 Hours 39 minutes 12 Seconds. Michael Paz wrote: > HAVE FAITH! I feel a change coming. Of course it may get worse (which > it probably will) before it gets better, but I am optimistic. > > Love > > Paz > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Cassy wrote: > > As others have said, this could be the trip of a lifetime. Are we > counting 4 days for Fest activities? It would help for me to do the > math. Based on 4 days it's roughly $500 U.S. for the fest and United > Airlines seems to have a one-stop flight from Seattle to Sydney for > about $1500 U.S. so $2,000 just for travel and Fest. Of course, I > could not travel that far for 4 days so I looked at flights spanning a > fortnight in mid March. (apparently one cannot book flights more than > 333 days in advance on some of the cheap ticket web sites so I had to > check prices for 2009 and hope they won't be too much more by 2010. > > So counting accommodations for the rest of the time (can we arrange to > hang out at the venue rather than change to a hotel?) discretionary > spending money and body fuel I'm personally looking at around $5,000 > multiply that by two so I can share the experience with my husband and > $10,000 becomes a fair bit of money for a two-week holiday. > > Unless things radically improve financially in the next 10 months or > so, it's doubtful I would be able to participate this time. Mark, > thanks for everything you're doing but I'll have to do this one > vicariously. > > Warmly, > Cassy > > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:48:53 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: OzFest 2010 mark- this looks absolutely fantastic, and it is one of my lifetime dreams to make it to australia. i am on a plan to finish college in about two more years, so i'll probably still be in that semester and unable to take enough time to go to oz, but please keep me in all communication loops. there's also the issue, where will the world economy be? i'm in financial services, so i'm not sure how much longer i'll have a job. we just announced layoffs of 10% of our company. i seem to not be part of the first wave, but i'm very nervous. i can hope though... patrick np - george michael, round here (from 'patience') - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Mark-Leon Thorne Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:23 AM To: Joni List Subject: OzFest 2010 Hello everyone. I'd like to thank everyone who gave me feedback about OzFest. This has really helped me to shape it. It seems that organising it back to back with SoCalFest is not the best way to go. It seems some people may find the time for both hard to come by. So, I've decided to push it back to March, 2010. From memory, March is ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:50:19 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc It depends on how you interpret them. a,c, and e make up a minor chord yes, in root form. But, if you rearrange them to c, e, and a you either have an a minor chord in 1st inversion OR a C6 major chord where the 6th tone in a C major scale, a, replaces the 5th tone, g, leaving you with c,e, and a. You could also take it a step further and say that a,c, and e actually live together with f, who lives below them (but stayed home and didn't go to the bar) giving you f,a,c, and e, and making them a major 7 chord. Isn't music theory fun! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" > But surely it's an A minor chord? > > 2008/10/31 > > > Those strings aren't minors, they're a C6 major chord! > > > > Start pouring.... > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > > > Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, > > > "We don't serve minors." > > > > > > L'Hommedieu > > > > > > -- > Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: > http://www.justgiving.com/zooby > > Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at > > http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 > > acting CV and showreel at > http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 > > http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk > Facebook me! > > Everest Blog: > http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" To: waytoblue@comcast.net Cc: "Jim L'Hommedieu" , joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:19:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html But surely it's an A minor chord? 2008/10/31 Those strings aren't minors, they're a C6 major chord! Start pouring.... -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, > "We don't serve minors." > > L'Hommedieu - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Tell that weird minor chord joke njc For that matter, there really is no such thing as a C string on a guitar, although you can tune a string to C. And Jim just wanted to tell us a joke. Heh heh. - --- On Thu, 10/30/08, waytoblue@comcast.net wrote: It depends on how you interpret them. a,c, and e make up a minor chord yes, in root form. But, if you rearrange them to c, e, and a you either have an a minor chord in 1st inversion OR a C6 major chord where the 6th tone in a C major scale, a, replaces the 5th tone, g, leaving you with c,e, and a. You could also take it a step further and say that a,c, and e actually live together with f, who lives below them (but stayed home and didn't go to the bar) giving you f,a,c, and e, and making them a major 7 chord. Isn't music theory fun! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" > But surely it's an A minor chord? > > 2008/10/31 > > > Those strings aren't minors, they're a C6 major chord! > > > > Start pouring.... > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > > > Three guitar strings walk into a bar: C, E, and A. The bartender says, > > > "We don't serve minors." > > > > > > L'Hommedieu __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #273 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------