From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #268 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 28 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 268 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night ["Kate Bennett" ] Blue ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Twelve Keys of Shaolin [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Twelve Keys of Shaolin ["Jamie Zubairi Home" ] Re: Twelve Keys of Shaolin [Michael Flaherty ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: OzFest and SoCalFest [Michael Paz ] re: Wolf Cover [c Karma ] M.Arden sings Joni ["Barbara Stewart" ] First Time Blue [Russell Bowden ] McCabes 50th Anniversary show (NJC) [] Re: njc - van the man [Jeannie ] Re: OzFest and SoCalFest ["Donna Binkley" ] Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) [] Re: Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) [Jerry Notaro ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) ["Mark Scott" ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Laura Stanley ] Hotel California [Jean Stock ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:34:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night I discovered Blue when it was released & it affected me deeply. It was a soundtrack for that time (like a big sister who got to go to all those cool places & meet so many cool people) but since there was so much going on during that time & so much incredible music I think it wasn't until many years later when I realized, in retrospect, how Blue stood the test of time emotionally - as in timeless. Although I grew up listening to Joni releasing her albums along the way, at some point I drifted away into other musical worlds. Eventually I returned to discover how amazing her music was once again. Her early years will always be my favorite albums. Kate Mags >my question for you is this; when did you discover Blue, and how did it affect you?< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:41:06 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: OzFest and SoCalFest On 28/10/2008, at 6:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Unless they were back to back- fest in socal then fly on over to > OZ :~)Kate That's an interesting idea, Kate. I'd be willing to coordinate with Dave on that. Well, all that's needed is to align the dates. July is the height of Winter in Australia but, I guess it's not as cold as Winter in some places. Personally, I love Winter and the area that I have in mind would be absolutely beautiful at that time of year. The retreat has several open fireplaces. I'd really like to get other people's ideas on this. I am great at researching and organising but I need to know what people want before I can go ahead with anything. Thank you to those who have written to me with their ideas and advice. After reading them, I had decided to push OzFest back to March 2010 and that's what I'll start planning for. I need a show of hands. Who would be able to make OzFest in March 2010? Who would like OzFest to follow directly on from SoCalFest? Would Kate's idea of continuing on to Australia from California work for you? It does seem to make some economic sense since many of you would have to fly to California first anyway. There are frequent direct flights to Sydney from Los Angeles. You can also fly via Hawaii, Fiji or New Zealand if you would like a lay over. Back in the '80s, I flew to LA via all three. Please, please, please. Feedback peoples. I want this to encompass as many of your needs as possible. It's all open for discussion. PS The Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras goes for the month of February and ends with the parade and party on the first weekend in March FYI. March is the first month of Autumn but is still quite hot until the end of the month when it starts to cool down. Mark in Sydney NP By Your Side (Miguel Migs remix) - Sade (Not SHADAY, Bene) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:01:52 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Blue Mags wrote: I ordered a copy of Blue when it was released but since I was living "at the end of the world" then I had to wait for about three months. I was also heartbroken at the time so Blue was literally a lifesaver for me. I swear I would not have made it through that period of my life without it. Marion, looking at beautifully coloured autumn leaves outside my window and getting the urge for going ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:59:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Well I just sent in my absentee ballot yesterday with a vote cast for Mr. Obama. However, I've decided to join the Socialist party. Many of my ideals coincide with theirs. Just yesterday I printed out my application to join the World Socialist Party. Of course there is a candidate from the Socialist Party on the ballot but voting him would be throwing away a vote. I like the idea of Socialism even if the majority of America doesn't. Unfortunately the problem with Socialism is that I am very skeptical of getting behind a cause that perhaps (more than likely not) will never be on the forefront. It is almost tucked away in that ideal la la land. America is Capitalist. I can see no other way for America to be despite all the flaws Capitalism inflicts. But I suppose it is better to try and get behind something you believe in even if it is so very far fetched (and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone physically). - -Monika - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Laura Stanley wrote: - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Bob Muller wrote: > > I'll list some reasons why I'm voting for Obama: > > 1. He's smart - a critical thinker as opposed to > someone who shoots from the hip. > 2. He has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. > 3. His health care plan ensures that all children are > covered, enables everyone to get health care, and enables me > to keep the good coverage I already have. > 4. He's eloquent. > 5. After a loooooooooooooong string of white guys, he > represents the diversity of America. > 6. He intends to return some fairness to the tax code and > get corporations and the rich paying their fair shares > (again) while providing tax cuts to the middle class, > currently struggling to make ends meet. > 7. He will overnight restore the world's respect for > America as a fair and intelligent nation. > 8. He's inspiring. > 9. He will incentivize businesses to keep and re-establish > jobs in the USA. > 10. He has a plan to explore and provide funding for > alternative energy. > > That's 20% of the 50 reasons, just off the top of my > head. > > But why make US do YOUR work for you? Go to: > > http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ > > And you can find another 40. Easily. > Hi Bob, I've already done my "work." I wasn't looking at it that way. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:00:49 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night I 'knew' about the album but really didn't have much of an interest in until the late 80's when I borrowed Clouds & Blue from a neighbor. I liked the sound of it, especially that "weird guitar" sound (aka the dulcimer), but it didn't affect me much - not even close to the way that Hejira & CAS did. Bob NP: Norah Jones, "In The Morning" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I'd always introduce it as "the most beautiful song ever" waiting for whoever was listening's reaction. Of course, nobody had the same reaction as me but that didn't stop me from having whoever it was listen again (I'd always press repeat!). - -Monika - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Mags wrote: my question for you is this; when did you discover Blue, and how did it affect you? Mags from chilly Manitoba~ i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, marie wrote: > > Here is something that is NOT off the top of my head: Fair > Tax. org. Hi Marie, What do you think of the death tax? Thanks for the website. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:17:01 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Which is fine, it makes about as much sense as betting on the Cubs to win the World Series. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing parties totally disappear myself; the fact is that the stakes are very high this particular year and the choices between the two VIABLE candidates are very clear - throwing your vote away on a candidate that has absolutely no chance of victory seems irresponsible to me. I think it was David E who wrote such a great analysis of why a progressive tax is more "fair" than the flat tax/consumption tax option. Of course, if you happen to be Steve Forbes or someone with that level of financial resource, a flat tax seems awfully fair. Bob NP: Counting Crows, "On A Tuesday in Amsterdam Long Ago" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:16:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) There are already some socialist aspects to our government and to our way of life here in the States. I would like to see us head just a tad more in that direction, too, with regard to health care, especially. But all this mass anti-socialist scare/hysteria that plagues us right now....I don't think those people have anything to fear, really. This country will never be purely socialist. Never happen. Too many viking/pirate genes in the mix! So I wish they'd get over it. Glad to hear you voted for Obama! :) I'm waiting til election day....am looking forward to the crowd in the parking lot at the church which is my polling place. One big reason, for me, to vote for Obama is that I feel he will help to quickly normalize relations with Cuba. That's important to me. I don't CARE if they are commies. I'm kind of sorry it happened, but happen it DID, so let's get on with life. Em - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) To: "Joni people!" Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 7:59 AM Well I just sent in my absentee ballot yesterday with a vote cast for Mr. Obama. However, I've decided to join the Socialist party. Many of my ideals coincide with theirs. Just yesterday I printed out my application to join the World Socialist Party. Of course there is a candidate from the Socialist Party on the ballot but voting him would be throwing away a vote. I like the idea of Socialism even if the majority of America doesn't. Unfortunately the problem with Socialism is that I am very skeptical of getting behind a cause that perhaps (more than likely not) will never be on the forefront. It is almost tucked away in that ideal la la land. America is Capitalist. I can see no other way for America to be despite all the flaws Capitalism inflicts. But I suppose it is better to try and get behind something you believe in even if it is so very far fetched (and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone physically). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:44:36 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) > > > Which is fine, it makes about as much sense as betting on the Cubs to win > the World Series. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing parties > totally disappear myself; the fact is that the stakes are very high this > particular year and the choices between the two VIABLE candidates are very > clear - throwing your vote away on a candidate that has absolutely no > chance of victory seems irresponsible to me. And how got Bush elected in the first place. If you thought that worked for you, vote for a third party candidate again. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:57:36 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Twelve Keys of Shaolin According to this webpage: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=30896 Some rare jazz films are being restored, and the first is called Twelve Keys of Shaolin from 1973. According to the description of the film: "First up in the series is the Shaw Brothers chop-socky attempt to cash in on the early seventies Fusion scene with Twelve Keys of Shaolin (1973), starring John McLaughlin as guitar-wielding monk Pik Long. Seeking vengeance against the gang who kicked his brother in the face repeatedly for the first eight minutes of the film, Long must first redeem the honor of a blind seamstress ****(Joni Mitchell)**** and stage a benefit concert to save his father's noodle stand. You'll cheer the final scene (for more reasons than one), where he dispatches of the gang's leader with a withering Gm13th chord. Also starring Jack DeJohnette as Chik Boom and Gary Peacock as Lo Don." Sounds interesting! Bob NP: Seal, I'm Alive" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:26:55 +0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: Twelve Keys of Shaolin Joni Mitchell plays a blind seamstress?!?!?!? WTF? Jamie 2008/10/28 > According to this webpage: > > http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=30896 > > Some rare jazz films are being restored, and the first is called Twelve > Keys of Shaolin from 1973. According to the description of the film: > > "First up in the series is the Shaw Brothers chop-socky attempt to cash in > on the early seventies Fusion scene with Twelve Keys of Shaolin (1973), > starring John McLaughlin as guitar-wielding monk Pik Long. Seeking > vengeance against the gang who kicked his brother in the face repeatedly > for the first eight minutes of the film, Long must first redeem the honor > of a blind seamstress ****(Joni Mitchell)**** and stage a benefit concert > to save his father's noodle stand. You'll cheer the final scene (for more > reasons than one), where he dispatches of the gang's leader with a > withering Gm13th chord. Also starring Jack DeJohnette as Chik Boom and > Gary Peacock as Lo Don." > > Sounds interesting! > > Bob > > NP: Seal, I'm Alive" > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- Feel like supporting a World Record Attempt while giving to charity? go to: http://www.justgiving.com/zooby Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Twelve Keys of Shaolin >>According to this webpage: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=30896 Some rare jazz films are being restored, and the first is called Twelve Keys of Shaolin from 1973. According to the description of the film: The whole page is a joke. As someone noted in the comments page, it should have been posted on April 1st.. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:13:43 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Cagno Great to see you round here. I loved this. Thanks for sharing. Hope to run into you along the way. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:41 AM, GreggCagno wrote: Ran into our friend Rosie last weekend in New Hope and she encouraged me to share this with the group... The stakes are high folks. Agree or disagree, this is the most important election of our lives. Here's a little tune of HOPE from our swing state of PA... (props to Mr. Simon for a fine melody) 50 Reasons to Vote Obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euwF8WU6Emw As we used to say in Hoboken: "Vote early and vote often" gObama, Gregg __________________________________ www.greggcagno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:15:52 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: OzFest and SoCalFest Hi Guys I am interested in both of your events but as always I am at the mercy of my touring schedule. Just talked to management and fund out they are planning a tour of Australia and Asia in August and Sept of next year. I will say that while October weather down under sounds wonderful that and April are the worst months of the year for me as far as schedule. Good luck in all your plans. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 26, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: I am getting quotes right now for a SoCal fest in the little mountain town Arts community of Idyllwild, CA, which is a couple of hours east of LA and sits in a pineforest above the Palm Springs area. The sights, hikes and eateries are wonderful and the town is chock full of musical and artistic talent. They hold an annual Jazz festival at the Arts campus where our 8-piece Joni band brought the house down in August 07. I have two venues in mind so hopefully one will work out well. Regarding Mark's request, THIS fest, if I can pull it all together, would likely be July or August, definitely not October and would probably be a 3-day event. Robin and I would like to make it to Sydney too, economy permitting. cheers all, Dave On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:58:59 +1100 > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: OzFest and SoCalFest > > Hello fellow Joni fans. > > I recently hinted at a JoniFest in Australia and have had some very > positive feedback about the idea. I never thought it would be viable > but it seems that there are plenty of people willing to make the trip > so, I went ahead and did some research and have discovered the > perfect venue for it and have got some preliminary quotes that will > make it financially viable too. > > I was aware that Dave Blackburn had raised the idea of a JoniFest in > the San Diego area but didn't realise that his plans might clash with > mine. The fear now is that people might want to attend both but would > have to choose between them because people won't be able to afford > two JoniFests in the same year. So, before I go ahead with any more > research and planning, I need to know if this will prevent people > from coming to OzFest. If having the two on in the same year will > cause anyone a problem, would you please let me know. > > I need to know if, going to SoCal JoniFest will prevent you from > attending OzFest or vice versa, please send me a message off list or > here so, I can get an idea of its viability. If this is the case, I > may have to push it back to 2010. > > My idea was for October, 2009. That is Spring in Australia so, I > thought that might be an ideal time, weather wise. It has been > suggested to me that many people would like to escape the Northern > Hemisphere Winter but, Summer in Australia (most parts) can be > uncomfortably hot. At least, I think so. Sometimes temperatures can > get up 30-35 degrees C and I'm not sure you'd like to sweat it out. > That's why I figured Spring might be better. Everything is open to > discussion so, please feel free to give any feedback. > > Either way, you are all going to LOVE the venue I found and the > package they offer. I will reveal the venue once I get some feedback > from you all. I will also look into flight packages from each of your > countries but that's probably better done from your end. > > Spring has been a bit mixed this year. We've had quite a bit of rain > and temperatures have varied wildly from a heatwave two weeks ago to > snow falling in the mountains last week. > > I have had some great feedback from Lucy Hone on her methods and will > be following much of her advice because it seems that Holycombe was a > great success. I believe I can make OzFest the most memorable > JoniFest ever. The more of you who come, the better this will be (it > also makes the package cheaper because there is a set price to book > out the entire venue). Trust me, you'll love it. > > Your feedback will give me a starting point and shape the whole > experience. > > The most important question is; Will having two JoniFests in the same > year (same month) prevent you from going to either one? > > Thanks for your co-operation. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:39:55 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Wolf Cover ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! This guy nailed it. Even given that he's been practicing it for a year, to duplicate the subtlety of the dynamic on this piece is astounding! I'm going to crawl back under my rock now. It is simply the most underrated piece that Joni ever created. Thank you Bob for bringing this cover video and this wonderful guitarist onto our collective radar. CC I'm sure you guitarists will enjoy watching this one - a very nice cover of The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpbHLhIRqc4 Bob _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:39:37 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: M.Arden sings Joni Is anyone else going to the "Michael Arden Sings Blue" late-nite show at Joe's Pub in NYC? I'm ticketed for tonite (after the Joan Baez gig at Town Hall). http://www.joespub.com/component/option,com_shows/task,view/Itemid,40/id,4202 Off-list if you are going. Also on Wed & Thurs nites. Meanwhile, here's a YouTube treat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_L6HXOm_tE B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:13:13 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Wolf Cover hear hear Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:39 AM, c Karma wrote: ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! This guy nailed it. Even given that he's been practicing it for a year, to duplicate the subtlety of the dynamic on this piece is astounding! I'm going to crawl back under my rock now. It is simply the most underrated piece that Joni ever created. Thank you Bob for bringing this cover video and this wonderful guitarist onto our collective radar. CC I'm sure you guitarists will enjoy watching this one - a very nice cover of The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpbHLhIRqc4 Bob _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:35:46 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: First Time Blue Mags and Gang, The summer or '77 was the time that I 'woke up' to Joni...I had heard her hits on the radio during high school (69-73) and always liked her 'cause she sounded so different from anyone. The first album was C&S..I'll never forget that night..listening and reading the lyrics...I was stunned, set free, amazed that one could thought in such a unique fashion...How did she string words together like that? From there the next albums were Hejira (I'm kneeling when I think that title) and Blue...When a friend found out that I'd discovered JM she said I absolutley HAD to hear Blue..from the opening song right to the end I was entranced...Carey was the best song I'd ever heard...what a great summer to have found C&S, Hejira and Blue all within a 4 week period...I'm forever grateful Lee, Alisoun and Robin for opening my ears to Our Queen. Love, Russ Mischief Managed _________________________________________________________________ Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:48:02 -0400 From: Subject: McCabes 50th Anniversary show (NJC) There is a great photo slide-show of the event at: http://romancho.com/mccabes50th/ *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: njc - van the man It's just here say what I have heard about Van from what I call two very reliable sources and I don't want this to come off as gossip. That woman who came out pictured with him on the cover on his "Days Like These," CD put undue strain on him in many ways. I loved the music but was confused at the art cover, as were my sisters when the album was first released. It was later on I found out that Van was married that pretty woman pictured with him on the cover along with some beautiful dogs Van was walking on leashes. He probably was enamored with her beauty but she ended up wanting to change conditions in his artistic world more to her liking and ended up being a "money-grubber" especially towards the end of their marriage and through a costly divorce. Two different sources told me the same thing and yet it's not my business other than trying to understand Van having those bad or sloppy nights on stage which I can hardly believe unless he drank too much Port wine or too many Guinness Draughts on some of those off nights and even that, I cannot imagine in my head! Jeannie - --- On Mon, 10/27/08, James Matheson wrote: >Reply to Jeanie's inquiry > > I am lucky enough to have lived in the San Francisco Bay > Area for nearly 40 > years. The incredible music scene here is the main reason I > came up here > from Southern California all those years ago. > > I have watched it change and evolve over the years, but on > any given weekend > there is still a huge selection of big name, medium name, > and no-name > musicians gigging within a 20-30 mile radius of my > apartment. > > The first time I saw Van Morrison was at the > "closing" of the Fillmore in > 1971. He was staggering around on the stage in a very > inspired way - > actually a GREAT performance. > > Over the next 30+ years I've seen him in a number of > different venues: > bigger halls like Winterland; the Bill Graham Civic > Auditorium; the Orpheum > Theater, and the Masonic Auditorium and small clubs: Rancho > Nicasio; The > Stone; and some little place up in Cotati one night in 1978 > or 79 - > apparently this gig was thrown together at the last minute. > No advertising, > just his name on the club's marquee. I happened to be > driving through town > own my way to visit some friends up on the Russian River, > when I spied it. I > yanked the bus over, went up to the little > "box-office" and sure enough, it > was really happening. I called my friends, they jetted down > from The River > and we all had a GREAT NIGHT! > > I think you are right, most of my recent "bad > nights" with Van Morrison were > during the middle '90s. I have no idea what was > happening with him, but he > was not in top form in those days. > > Thanks for listening. > > SF Jimmie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:40:45 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: OzFest and SoCalFest Mark, I think Kate's idea is brilliant and it would definitely work for me. Winter in Austrailia sounds wonderful, you have my vote on soca/oz back to back! Donna >>> Mark-Leon Thorne 10/28/2008 2:41 AM >>> On 28/10/2008, at 6:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Unless they were back to back- fest in socal then fly on over to > OZ :~)Kate That's an interesting idea, Kate. I'd be willing to coordinate with Dave on that. Well, all that's needed is to align the dates. July is the height of Winter in Australia but, I guess it's not as cold as Winter in some places. Personally, I love Winter and the area that I have in mind would be absolutely beautiful at that time of year. The retreat has several open fireplaces. I'd really like to get other people's ideas on this. I am great at researching and organising but I need to know what people want before I can go ahead with anything. Thank you to those who have written to me with their ideas and advice. After reading them, I had decided to push OzFest back to March 2010 and that's what I'll start planning for. I need a show of hands. Who would be able to make OzFest in March 2010? Who would like OzFest to follow directly on from SoCalFest? Would Kate's idea of continuing on to Australia from California work for you? It does seem to make some economic sense since many of you would have to fly to California first anyway. There are frequent direct flights to Sydney from Los Angeles. You can also fly via Hawaii, Fiji or New Zealand if you would like a lay over. Back in the '80s, I flew to LA via all three. Please, please, please. Feedback peoples. I want this to encompass as many of your needs as possible. It's all open for discussion. PS The Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras goes for the month of February and ends with the parade and party on the first weekend in March FYI. March is the first month of Autumn but is still quite hot until the end of the month when it starts to cool down. Mark in Sydney NP By Your Side (Miguel Migs remix) - Sade (Not SHADAY, Bene) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:11:04 -0400 From: Subject: Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) Hello all! Just got back from Mesa, AZ, after a great FAR-West conference. One of the many highlights was Saturday night's (actually Sunday morning's) Joni song circle/jam. It started at 2 AM, I caved about 5:30 and I heard others were there until at least 6. It was held in Annie Moscow's showcase room, so many thanks to her for organizing it. We got into some CSNY and Van the man, but it was 90% Joni stuff. Those of you who know me know how anal I am about lists, so here's who I remember being in the room: Annie Moscow (musician - Phoenix) Amy Meyers (musician - SF Bay) Hans York (musician - Seattle) Erik and Tom from Tin Cat (SF Bay) Cindy & Scott Bottomley (concert presenters - Las Vegas) Sonnie Brown (DJ - San Luis Obispo) Martin and Strings from Stryngs (UK) Walter Strauss (killer guitarist - Sonoma) Esther Golton (dulcimer player - Alaska) Garrett Swayne (musician - Los Angeles) Caren Armstrong (musician - knows every Joni song through HOSL, I think! - SF Bay) Michele and I (concert presenters - Anaheim) Tara Covington (musician - San Diego) Bruce????? (musician) and you know there may be more..... Wanted to mention who was there, so you can support them if they're in your area. Next year the event will actually be on Nov 7, so we will celebrate the royal birthday. I am going to dig thorough my Jonibilia and come up with a prize for the best POST-HEJIRA song performed - the only negative about the evening was the lack of these. :( *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:33:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) Sounds like a great time. Annie probably mentioned that she's recorded a fine version of "Michael From Mountains" on her 2007 release. And I share your opinion that these kind of gatherings seem to labor under the misconception that Joni had a 5-7 year career. Jerry and/or Em, take good notes at the upcoming Tampa Fest. I saw a listing of the performers today but didn't recognize any names. Bob NP: Neil Young & Crazy Horse, "Wonderin'" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:47:17 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni song circle at FAR-West (NJC) Where did you see the list of performers, Bob? I can't find that. I do know a few of the names and they are all the top performers in the area. It was by invitation only, though there will be an open mike from 6-7, Joni only songs allowed. I was the Reference Librarian on Sunday and saw Lorna Bracewell who I knew was invited. She is doing A Case of You and The Last Time I Saw Richard on piano. She said everyone is very nervous because Joni is such an idol and they want to make sure they do her music right. So I'm sure there will be no cutting edge choices, but I'm looking forward to it. Jerry > > > Sounds like a great time. Annie probably mentioned that she's recorded a > fine version of "Michael From Mountains" on her 2007 release. > > And I share your opinion that these kind of gatherings seem to labor under > the misconception that Joni had a 5-7 year career. Jerry and/or Em, take > good notes at the upcoming Tampa Fest. I saw a listing of the performers > today but didn't recognize any names. > > Bob > > NP: Neil Young & Crazy Horse, "Wonderin'" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Jerry Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/5q8uyn > > Try this link, Jerry - it won't open for me now but this morning it worked > fine. > > Bob > > NP: REM, "Feeling Gravitys Pull" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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My radio station has been advertising a drawing for tickets for a limo up there, etc. Lindsay (San Diego) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:04:29 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Stanley" > > What do you think of the death tax? Just ran across this, haven't read any of the responses, and I don't mean to unload on you, Laura, but the very name 'death tax' makes me fume. It is not a 'death tax'. You are not being taxed for dying or being dead. I believe you are referring to an estate or inheritance tax and as I understand it, it is (or was) only applied above a certain level of value. And after going through the deaths of both of my parents in the last 4 years, the level of value, as I remember it is pretty darn high. I never had to pay any kind of inheritance or estate tax. Neither did my brother or sister. There's an ad playing here in Washington state accusing a Democratic candidate for Congress of wanting 'to bring back the death tax', apparently meaning a state inheritance tax. To my knowledge there has never been any such thing as a death tax in this country. Anyone may feel free to correct me if I am wrong. But I don't believe you can or ever could be taxed for being dead. Anyway, I wouldn't want to have to collect it if there were such a thing. I would rather be up a sycamore, looking through the leaves (but not that particular sinner of some position.) Now thoughts like 'Night of the Living Dead' (pretty gruesome, but appropriate for this time of year) or 'stealing the pennies off a dead Irishman's eyes' are popping into my head. ...and you know there may be more. Mark in Seattle. PS: Travis just googled the Federal Estate tax. It only applies to estates over $1,050,000.00. Some states have an inheritance task as well. Some don't. But please don't call either of these a 'death tax'. It's an ugly, political name created to push people's buttons. Guess it works pretty well huh? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) - --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Mark Scott wrote: > > From: "Laura Stanley" > > > > > What do you think of the death tax? > > Just ran across this, haven't read any of the > responses, and I don't > mean to unload on you, Laura, but the very name 'death > tax' makes me > fume. > > It is not a 'death tax'. You are not being taxed > for dying or being > dead. Hi Mark, Didn't mean to light your fire. I have a friend who uses the term "death tax" and is some kind of activist against it. When she talks about it, it goes way over my head. My mother passed away going on ten years ago, and before she died she had a trust created for us so I don't have any experience with estate tax. Thanks for telling me your opinion about the terminology and issue. Below is some history I found about the terminology. Love, Laura The "Death Tax" neologism Many opponents of the estate tax refer to it as the "death tax" in their public discourse partly because a death must occur before any tax on the deceased's assets can be realized and also because the tax rate is determined by the value of the deceased's assets rather than the amount each inheritor receives. Neither the number of inheritors nor the size of each inheritor's portion factors into the calculations for rate of the Estate Tax. The term was coined in the Gingrich period by Jack Faris of the National Federation of Independent Business. [7]. It has been widely but inaccurately attributed to Republican pollster Frank Luntz. In a memo, Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not" [8]. Progressive linguist George Lakoff alleges the phrase is a deliberate and carefully calculated neologism which is used as a propaganda tactic to aid in the repeal of estate taxes. However the use of "death tax" rather than "estate tax" in the wording of questions in the 2002 National Election Survey increased support for estate tax repeal by only a few percentage points.[9] [edit] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:01:53 -0800 From: Jean Stock Subject: Hotel California Perhaps this is old news for you die-hard Joni fans, but I just read a wonderful book over the weekend Hotel California by Barney Hoskyns. "The true life adventures of Crosby, Stills, Nash,Young,Mitchell,Taylor,Browne,Ronstadt,Geffen, and the Eagles." It's a fascinating book with a real in depth look at these musicians, their tight knit community up on Lookout Drive on Laurel Canyon. There is much info on Joni, a great read. I'm fairly new to the list so if this has been discussed before I apologize, otherwise I think everyone would enjoy reading this. I stayed up till 3:00, totally engrossed. jstock _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:01:53 -0800 From: Jean Stock Subject: Hotel California Perhaps this is old news for you die-hard Joni fans, but I just read a wonderful book over the weekend Hotel California by Barney Hoskyns. "The true life adventures of Crosby, Stills, Nash,Young,Mitchell,Taylor,Browne,Ronstadt,Geffen, and the Eagles." It's a fascinating book with a real in depth look at these musicians, their tight knit community up on Lookout Drive on Laurel Canyon. There is much info on Joni, a great read. I'm fairly new to the list so if this has been discussed before I apologize, otherwise I think everyone would enjoy reading this. I stayed up till 3:00, totally engrossed. jstock _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #268 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------